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14/07/2020 3:11 pm  

@djedi

 

'bout 30 seconds...People are crackin' up. 


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14/07/2020 5:54 pm  
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New BBC Scotland "COMEDY" short allegedly about AC: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLuxElu2hsc

Post how many seconds you got into the video before you felt the urge to commit suicide.

I made it to the end. Wasn't all that funny but at least he put some research into it I guess.


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21/07/2020 10:08 pm  

Watched Häxan, and was overall unimpressed, though I don't like documentaries so there was only so much I ever could have liked about this one. I did enjoy the reenactment segments and, while I'm as much a medievalist as the next guy (with apologies to Montague Summers), I don't really go in for the middle ages witchcraft aesthetic, so they must have been very inspired for me to like them. I especially appreciated the scenes wherein the very old witch gave birth to the children of the devil, and the convent developed mass hysteria.

Again, very inspired and with high production values. However, I couldn't help thinking it wouldn't be out-of-place on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

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It did remind me of a much better film, in my opinion, which I watched years ago and may watch again soon, Ingmar Bergman's The Magician.


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21/07/2020 10:33 pm  

@djedi -What would Cletus and Beauregard say about you having these high-falutin' college-boy views about what you probably call "cinema", not to mention Uncle Jeb?

Stay in character, son!


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22/07/2020 1:06 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

What would Cletus and Beauregard say about you having these high-falutin' college-boy views about what you probably call "cinema", not to mention Uncle Jeb?

I have a tight psychological grip on them, so they'll sing my praises no matter what I do.


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22/07/2020 7:23 pm  

That last fillum I sawr that was quite good for a semi hollow thriller (in my opinion) with little dialogue (the main character is a mute deaf) was 'Hush' (2016).

 


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24/07/2020 5:40 pm  
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Ingmar Bergman's The Magician.

Re-watched it. It does hold up, and I found out it was influenced by Magic, a play by G.K. Chesterton.

Posted by: @ignant666

Uncle Jeb?

You know, Ignant, this post reminded me of my father's animal sacrifices to the trickster god, and now I realize you've got the wrong idea about his alleged redneckitude.

It may shock you to know, but I am the only person in my family, patrilineally, to be born and raised exclusively in the South. My father, though born here in the heart of darkness, grew up out in the Sonoran (he never mentioned any ranches burning down, though). He actually had a hatred for 'country people,' or rednecks as you call them, which burned even brighter than your own.

You might have liked my old man, if you met him back in the day, on his own terms. One of his early mischiefs was running guns for a quartermaster who was stealing them from the Army (which had only recently employed Dad as a commando). He also got into psychedelics and other debauched libations, like yourself. 

Something else that might surprise you is that the average neo-confederate redneck (a creature with which I must suspect I have more experience than you) is just as weepy-eyed an animal lover as any west coast hippy type. They believe in that Tonto shit about respecting the deer you hunt, and they treat their pets like human beings. This is one of the reasons my Father found it entertaining to kill their dogs. 

Not to say that it was a completely immoral act, to him. I think he truly did believe it was better for an animal to die than be forced to live in a state contrary to its nature i.e. domestication. I suppose he was something like a proto-thelemic radical, in that way. The fact that it satisfied his cruel sense of humor may have been merely accidental.

 


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24/07/2020 5:56 pm  
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He actually had a hatred for 'country people,' or rednecks as you call them, which burned even brighter than your own.

Where did you get this impression?

I grew up out in the woods (in New England, not the South), and around mostly proud red-necked hicks. I have plenty of 'em in my family. My late Uncle Bill drove a semi, used to do crab boils at biker parties, and told everyone he was "voting for the nigger" when he started supporting Obama. None of my cousins lives in a city; if you want to meet some white-trash, redneck, trailer-dwelling, meth-cooking, getting-pregnant-by-bikers gals, i can introduce you to Bill's daughters? As i mentioned, i am a huge Hee-Haw, and country music, fan.

Now racism, that i despise, and anyone who flies the flag of blood and treason, sure. But to conflate "country people" with "racists" is silly, especially for someone from the South, where so many of the "country people" are black.

And I love dogs far more than most humans. So killing dogs is not high on my list of activities i admire, and stories about doing this are unlikely to amuse me.

 

 


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24/07/2020 8:09 pm  
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I love dogs far more than most humans.

I don't think I'm able to feel affection or empathy for any sort of animal. I haven't, ever. Maybe it's because my genotype, I'm fortunate to know, is drawn from those far-flung places in northern Europe, islands and mountains, where the proto-indo-european horse people weren't able to genocide whatever race came before, that didn't feel that animist connection. Or maybe I'm just autistic or something.

It does, however, irritate me to think of animals and especially dogs being treated like playthings by a higher race of beings, who should know better. I'm sure some of it even annoys you to think about: spaying and neutering them, dying their fur hot pink, dysgenically breeding them to 'look cute' or for any other reason outside nature's intent. It's the perversion of the Will, the desecration of the provident. All in the name of what?

If the average person is too emotionally corrupted to respect the dignity of the animal, I don't see why he should be allowed to have pets. Or perhaps you think I'm tyrannical for saying so.

But, anyway, to quote Bergman's opus, "God is silent while men babble on."


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24/07/2020 8:24 pm  

You unfortunate person; i have never felt sorrier for something someone has said in internet conversation before other than death.

It isn't your genes: absolutely all peoples of Northern Europe, however "far-flung", since there were any kept dogs. I am of Scots, Irish, German, and Swiss descent myself, and everyone in all known generations of my family have had dogs (i have pics of fam with pitbulls on the Ohio frontier from the 1880s); i'm the only one who doesn't have cats too.

Spaying and neutering animals makes them happier and live longer, and, no, (before you suggest it) i do not care to try the same experiment on myself, thanks- i am happy enough, and happy to die at any moment. But you are a younger man- perhaps you should look into this?

I assume, with these thoughts about animals, that you are a vegan?

I have an elderly cockapoo, Maud, that i inherited when my mom died, who, at 12 pounds soaking wet, dominates and terrorizes my somewhat younger pitbull FiFi, 80 pounds on her slimmest day. Even if you don't love dogs, they love you.


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24/07/2020 8:45 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

all peoples of Northern Europe

I'm talking about ten thousand years ago, but this isn't really relevant.

Posted by: @ignant666

perhaps you should look into this?

I shall find an unhappy vagrant and make the experiment on him at once.

Posted by: @ignant666

I assume, with these thoughts about animals, that you are a vegan?

You've got me wrong. To eat an animal is entirely in keeping with the natural course. To eat an animal is to treat it like an animal. To anthropomorphize an animal is the abomination.

But I can't blame you (or myself, for that matter). Our starting points are just too disparate to reach a common ground. The most apropos quip I can think of, to quote the man who started this conversation whenever someone asked him for directions, "You can't get there from here."

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cockapoo, Maud, pitbull FiFi

Thank you for finally telling me. 


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24/07/2020 8:58 pm  

Okay I'll contribute.

1. Alien. Love the set design, the fear for the characters. I enjoy the sequel and the art direction in 3 but they don't quite stand up as well.
2. Blade Runner. For me the best casting and set creativity in motion picture history.

Former favorites include Fight Club but I don't think it has held up as well. Same for The Matrix.

Notable mentions: Enter The Void, Dark City, Tombstone, Event Horizon. I have a soft spot for Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes. I'm excluding a lot more for time and brevity, I hope others enjoy these.

Force and Fire is not metaphorical. In Prophetes Veritas Venit.


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24/07/2020 8:59 pm  
What, only 10,000 years ago? They had dogs. If you were to say more than 40,000 years ago, maybe. Y;know how we know they had dogs? You. The ones that had dogs had descendants.
 
I assumed you had to be a vegan because of
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dysgenically breeding [animals...] for any [...] reason outside nature's intent

A country boy like you surely knows that no modern farm animal bears the least signs of "nature's intent"?

At least you understand the wisdom of the one who asked "If God didn't want us to eat animals, why'd he make 'em outta meat?"

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Thank you for finally telling me. 

You're welcome. It is indeed true that my family's relationship with our dogs involves living beings being "treated like playthings by a higher race of beings", but you have the D/S relationship backwards.

 


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24/07/2020 9:25 pm  
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It does, however, irritate me to think of animals and especially dogs being treated like playthings by a higher race of beings, who should know better

I think you have it backwards, friend.  If all the little millennial girls in my office are to be judged, they treat their animals TOO well.  Like they are not their owners but their mothers. It makes me sick.  You own the animal, it is your pet. You can love it sure but you are not it's fricking mom.  Feeding them people food and treating them as if they were human babies. *barf* 


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24/07/2020 9:30 pm  

@runelogix

 

Great picks

 

Fight Club is still a favourite though, even after all these years. 

One of the first DVD's I bought besides Bjork's Dancer in the Dark, Radiohead's Meeting People Is Easy, and From Hell I think.  


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24/07/2020 9:53 pm  
Posted by: @djedi

To anthropomorphize an animal is the abomination.

But we humans are animals too. And animals are much more intelligent than many think. Yet I don't consider animals for whom I care as being mere pets; they're friends. And after getting betrayed time and again by many so-called friends of the human variety, I can honestly say that some of my very best friends are animals. They're kind, considerate, and won't ever stab you in the back. They might snack on you if you die...but humans might do that too. 🤣  


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24/07/2020 9:59 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

the wisdom of the one who asked "If God didn't want us to eat animals, why'd he make 'em outta meat?"

I wonder if s/he'd also be so wise as to draw the line at cannibalism - after all, people're made outta meat too!!?!

Suggestively yours,

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24/07/2020 10:15 pm  
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people're made outta meat too

Yes. See recent discussion of the cannibalism problem in Vermont in god knows what thread- there has been much mixing of the planes lately.

In an effort to be OT, haven't actually watched a movie movie in ages, but we have recently enjoyed net TV crime series  Money Heist/Casa De Papel, Peaky Blinders, and Endeavor, and are watching Breaking Bad just now, the wife had never seen it. Very unrealistic about the drug game which i played for half my life, and studied for the other half, but good fun.


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24/07/2020 10:24 pm  

@jamiejbarter

 

Speaking of long pork, 'secret's in the sauce'

I need to re-watch Fried Green Tomatoes.  

 


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24/07/2020 10:31 pm  

Visitors from abroad should be aware that the problems i have described in Vermont are not uncommon in rural America, especially in remote and high altitude areas.

Visitors to most national and state parks are warned to carry so-called "bear spray"; this is a euphemism coined by panicked state tourism departments. European visitors often remark on the fact that most rural folks carry guns when they go away from town; now you know why.

Sounds like Chris' part of Colo. might not be immune, but at least you'll have the consolation of knowing you're well sauced if you "find yourself in cooking gear", as the old song puts it.


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24/07/2020 10:39 pm  

@ignant666

 

Since this is the film thread,

Ravenous (1999) was a great cannibal in the mountains film. Anyone seen it? 

 

Then of course there was the ol' Alferd Packer film by the South Park guys, their student film. Also known as Cannibal! The musical. 


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24/07/2020 10:49 pm  

Anyone inclined to discount these friendly advisories as to the (waning) prevalence of cannibalism in America's mountainous regions should remember that it is well known to every Englishman that Americans are incapable of irony.

H.P. Lovecraft should be seen as a social historian/journalist, not a writer of fiction.


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24/07/2020 11:27 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

it is well known to every Englishman that Americans are incapable of irony.

Er - I dunno, is that you being ironic here?

Yours ignantignorantly,

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24/07/2020 11:36 pm  

I am unable to answer this question as the result of binding Non-Disclosure Agreements the Park Rangers made me sign after an "incident" a few years back.

Let's just say my family will never camp in that state again. Unfortunately, i am forbidden to name it. I can state that it does not begin with the letter "E".


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25/07/2020 2:13 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

You unfortunate person; i have never felt sorrier

I would say I feel sorry for you, too, but I think we've established I have trouble with those emotions.

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Alien

H.R. Giger did a 'portrait' of Crowley, in case you didn't know. The character appears in the adventure game Dark Seed II as a justice.

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Same for The Matrix.

They're making a new Matrix. I am not enthused by the prospect.


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09/08/2020 10:18 am  

On Netflix there is a new film called The Lovebirds. It was released in May of 2020.

At the 59:00 minute mark there is a mention of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.


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09/08/2020 10:57 pm  

Anyone seen this?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_10th_Victim   1965 Ursula Andress.   Surreal movie set in the 21st century where people are allowed to hunt and kill each other for money. 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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10/08/2020 4:06 pm  
Posted by: @dom

Anyone seen this?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_10th_Victim   1965 Ursula Andress.   Surreal movie set in the 21st century where people are allowed to hunt and kill each other for money. 

Yes! I saw that during the lockdown. I remember it was a videorama of Rome and a satire on Roman life. However, I can't remember the ending and I may have tuned out early.


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10/08/2020 10:29 pm  
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Yes! I saw that during the lockdown. I remember it was a videorama of Rome and a satire on Roman life. However, I can't remember the ending and I may have tuned out early.

Sounds like you liked it.  Yes it's worth watching all thre way through.  There's a solar ritual scene on the beach, I wasn't expecting that.   

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11/08/2020 12:35 am  
Posted by: @dom

There's a solar ritual scene on the beach, I wasn't expecting that.   

No, I'd expected it'd taken place on the inside of a volcano, myself...

 😀 *

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11/08/2020 8:20 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

 

No, I'd expected it'd taken place on the inside of a volcano, myself...

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Not bad.

 

I think you missed my last pun......anyway ;

29/07/2020 12:54 am 
 
 
 

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11/08/2020 8:37 am  

You have good judgement on the quality of puns. 

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15/08/2020 11:24 pm  

I can't see any Dracula movie surpassing Bram Stoker's Dracula with Oldman and Ryder.   I am convinced that Anthony Hopkins based his crazy Van Helsing character on Klaus Kinski, see what you think.

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16/08/2020 3:45 am  
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H.P. Lovecraft should be seen as a social historian/journalist, not a writer of fiction.

Someone on Twitter posted that Guillermo del Toro was intending to film At The Mountains of Madness. I replied that he should change the title to At the Mountains of Unsold Tickets. 😁😎


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18/08/2020 9:55 pm  

"Under the silver lake", 2018, by David Robert Mitchell, a fav of recent years, if you like films like "Eyes wide shut", or books like "The crying of lot 49" by Thomas Pynchon, you might like it, though frankly it's not for everybody. It covers things like popular culture as a means towards a superior reality, the spirit of the counterculture, and inspires that feeling of what joining a magical Order should be, so to speak, as if the entire universe were conspiring for you to get in.


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18/08/2020 10:53 pm  

Tried to finish all of the film Vampyr the other weekend but was too tired, and the fact that it was supposedly spliced from 3 versions made it very hard to follow.  And all the text that was superimposed on other text.

I will have to give it another shot. 


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10/09/2020 8:08 am  

I am part way through watching Lord of Illusions, which is written and directed by the reliable Clive Barker (The Tale of Mina Harker), and starring Scott Bakula (The Legend of Dracula).

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113690/

It starts off in a commune that looks a little like Cefalu, ruled by an overbearing and evil magickian.

There is lots of Tarot imagery.

Caution: like most Clive Barker films, it is gruesome à outrance.

I am watching it on Netflix.


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10/09/2020 2:20 pm  
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_Up_on_Mu

When I read the description of this experimental film I could hardly believe that one critic described it as "rib-ticklingly funny"!


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17/10/2020 9:41 am  

The Trial of the Chicago 7 is a 2020 American historical legal drama film written and directed by Aaron Sorkin. The film follows the Chicago Seven, a group of anti-Vietnam War protesters charged with conspiracy and crossing state lines with the intention of inciting riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_the_Chicago_7   is on Netflix now and is a very good court-trial movie.   There's a lot of humour in there and Sascha Baron Cohen plays Abbie Hoffman. 

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18/10/2020 8:21 pm  
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Sascha Baron Cohen plays Abbie Hoffman. 

Did you find him very convincing as Abbie?  With no suggestion at all of any characterisations which might be more redolent of Borat or Ali G?

Film buffly yours,

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18/10/2020 8:59 pm  
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Posted by: @dom

Sascha Baron Cohen plays Abbie Hoffman. 

Did you find him very convincing as Abbie?  With no suggestion at all of any characterisations which might be more redolent of Borat or Ali G?

Film buffly yours,

N Joy

I hadn't read any reviews or even heard of it beforehand and only realized half way through it may be him then I Googled it and sure enough i was right.  Yeah he's very good in this. 

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20/10/2020 6:25 am  

@dom Thanks for the heads up. It is a very good film. I thought it slightly funny that Judge Hoffman is played by Frank Langella, who a few years ago played Richard Nixon in Frost/Nixon (a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ film).

I first saw Mr Langella in 12 Chairs by Mel Brooks. Will he ever appear in a film set in the year that it really is?


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20/10/2020 8:02 am  
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@dom Thanks for the heads up. It is a very good film. I thought it slightly funny that Judge Hoffman is played by Frank Langella, who a few years ago played Richard Nixon in Frost/Nixon (a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ film).

I first saw Mr Langella in 12 Chairs by Mel Brooks. Will he ever appear in a film set in the year that it really is?

I don't recall seeing Frank in anything else.  I may check that Mel Brooks movie out though.  Thanks for that.  I think the only other actor I recognized was the sympathetic (prosecution) lawyer but I couldn't name a movie he was in. 

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