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Serpent 252
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i’ve never heard any interesting music by David Tibet or Current 93, and am well aware he hangs out with Nazis like Douglas Pearce and Boyd Rice. Birds of a feather and what-not- shit pretentious music, shit pseudo-intellectual politics.

Ditto.

Interesting to note Tibet is pals with current (c)OTO supremo Bill Breeze, who hangs around with Jewish neo-fascist James Wasserman. Birds of a feather again.

And Tibet is a proud RC. The Christians to the Lions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perVFDDy_xg


ignant666
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Serpent 252: Thank you for agreeing with me about David "Turgid Is My Middle Name" Tibet, and for posting that absolutely smoking Art Ensemble of Chicago track, which i can't recall ever hearing.

I will return the favor by "pulling your coat to a thing", as the jazz cats say: to post youtube videos, you need to click the little "Share" to the right of the thumbs up and thumbs down icons. A window will pop up. Copy that link, and post it, not the URL of the page you are viewing the video on.

For those dubious about clicking blind links, here is the track Serpent 252 posted:

https://youtu.be/perVFDDy_xg


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Catholic Christians are really Pagans at heart; there is usually good stuff in them, particularly in Latin countries. They only need to be instructed in the true meaning of their faith to reflect the false veils. - A.C.


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ignant666: Thank you very much for showing me the yt way. Now I can bomb those white downers with a lot of music by many of my, and hopefully yours, favorite cats.

Now something a bit smoother, especially when lady Abbey Lincoln starts to cool it, somewhere about 3:40.

https://youtu.be/kMaUDAeiSIY


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Oh, man, that entire Art Ensemble of Chicago album, Les Stances a Sophie, is amazing.

One of my favorite albums that I've ever heard is an album by Brigitte Fontaine and Areski Belkacem -- with the Art Ensemble of Chicago -- Comme a la Radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmpW0soAwok


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@Falcon

In my copy AC had added the following note just after the part you've quoted:

An XXI Sol in Cancer: After some years spent in Catholic countries, I wish to
modify the above. Catholics are dead alike to Spirituality and to Reason, as bad as
Protestants. - AC "New Comment" on AL III, 18.


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@Serpent 252 Fair enough, I was reading from the earlier commentary. Have you read Liber Agape? (debated on LAShTAL in the past). When I first discovered it, I found it to be surprisingly positive about Jesus:

http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/libers/pdf/lib_0100.pdf


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Am looking forward to seeing Killing Joke live again at the Roundhouse in London on 17th November 2018 e.v. (near my birthday). Any other LAShTALians watching them play on the current 'Laugh At Your Peril' World Tour?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoZDF9rl3Vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h-GM00I-Xk

Am also seeing Current 93 and Nurse With Wound in London on 13th October 2018 e.v. at the Shepherd's Bush Empire in London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDjy4CMfp78


David Dom Lemieux
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@ignant666

david: Out of curiosity, what do you mean you are “a minority”?

I am a Roman Catholic (well obviously not a real Catholic but it's thre on my records) in the decidedly Protestant United Kingdom. When my dad was in the army they marched in front of the Queen but the sergeant told the Jews and Catholics to stay in he barracks.

Interesting to hear, though i do wonder why this fact has never come up before in your many years of posting, or the last time i pointed out Boyd Rice is a white supremacist, when you posted his nonsense a while back.

I am not super-familiar with Kate Bush, but that video sounded very little like what i recall, and the woman singing is about twice the age KB was when that was made.

Are you kidding? That woman is probably the same age as Kate Bush.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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david: I am sorry, and a bit surprised, to hear that lapsed Roman Catholics are so discriminated against in the UK, even in this day and age. A quick search reveals this Daily Telegraph story from 11 years ago that says more people in either the UK, or perhaps England (unclear which), attended Roman Catholic masses than Church of England services in 2007, so perhaps this oppression will lessen with time:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1573452/Britain-has-become-a-Catholic-country.html

As to Mrs. Connally being the same age as Kate Bush in the low resolution video you posted, my guess was late 30s, and i recall Kate Bush as being much younger than that at the time. I bow to your superior knowledge and apologize for any harm caused by any mistake i have made as to the relative ages of Kate Bush and the wife of Billy Connolly (whoever he is).

Here is a song much better than anything Kate Bush ever recorded, and very likely much better than anything ever recorded by Kate Bush, Billy Connolly, and Mrs Billy Connolly combined:

https://youtu.be/4C6YAB-bLCU


David Dom Lemieux
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david: I am sorry, and a bit surprised, to hear that lapsed Roman Catholics are so discriminated against in the UK, even in this day and age. A quick search reveals this Daily Telegraph story from 11 years ago that says more people in either the UK, or perhaps England (unclear which), attended Roman Catholic masses than Church of England services in 2007, so perhaps this oppression will lessen with time:

That's a silly article about who goes to church more? Catholics or Protestants? The UK is becoming multi-cultural but there are still bigoted pockets.

late 30s

I don't understand how you can be way off the mark there. She's only 8 years older.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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She’s only 8 years older.

Just reviewed vid, heavy make up and poor video quality may be adding a few years, or perhaps those 8 years may have been unkind to her, but she looks way older than Kate Bush. In any case, this is too silly a topic to merit any further comment from me.

In an effort to raise the intellectual tone of this thread a tad bit:

https://youtu.be/YXtuKsbORVY


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@ignant666

I'll try again. If Rice is a nazi as you have concluded, then what does that make his pal Genesis Orridge? A nazi sympathizer? An ignoramus?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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I just posted, with some links on Rice being a Nazi, and the post is not showing up, although when i try to re-post i get told it's a duplicate post.

Can anyone else see such a post between david's post and this one?


ignant666
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The post asking about the posting problem showed up, so here's another try:

david: I am no great admirer of Mr/Ms Orridge, and have no views on this issue.

Since, despite claiming to "do your research", you appear to believe it is somehow debatable that Nazi, convicted wife-beater, and rape-advocate (and shit musician and shittier artist) Boyd Rice is a Nazi,

Boyd the Nazi 1

here are some references for you:

http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/10/just-say-non-nazism-narcissism-and-boyd.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKbbIybtVM [Boyd, speaking on Nazi and White Aryan Resistance founder Tom Metzger's cable TV show "Race and Reason", mentions here how your man Doug Pearce and also Current 93 are fellow "racialist bands" who share his Nazi views and are working with him to create a cultural basis for an "Aryan youth movement"]

https://hyperallergic.com/459315/new-york-gallery-cancels-exhibition-featuring-boyd-rice-an-alleged-nazi/

http://libcom.org/library/death-in-june-a-nazi-band


David Dom Lemieux
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@ignant666

david: I am no great admirer of Mr/Ms Orridge, and have no views on this issue.

Well he gets a hellova lot of respect in Thelemic "circles" so I thought you'd have some opinion.

As for the links you've provided from your Google search engine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKbbIybtVM [Boyd, speaking on Nazi and White Aryan Resistance founder Tom Metzger’s cable TV show “Race and Reason”, mentions here how your man Doug Pearce and also Current 93 are fellow “racialist bands” who share his Nazi views and are working with him to create a cultural basis for an “Aryan youth movement”]

Yeah I've seen that hilarious interview and the entire thing is a piece of Situationist Dadaist sabotage. Too sophisticated for some folk to 'get' I guess. The man has real solid steel balls flirting with danger, it's pure art, the sort of art produced by his long time friend, Orridge hence their enduring camaraderie. It's like Crowley stating in print that he has sacrificed 100 young boys. It was a prank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG6YuFNZ0g

You see a swastika and you fly off the handle...congratulations...your buttons were pushed and the artist has you right where he wants you. How about The Stooges use of Nazi uniforms or Bowie's Oswald Moseley's stage show influence or Sid Vicious's swastika t-shirt? Etc and so on and on....

You're basically full of rigid opinions and have a closed mind if you think Rice is a Nazi. His idol and best friend was Anton LaVey who was Jewish and I've also mentioned his other Jewish friends. Does David Duke get intimate with any Jewish folk? I doubt it.

Btw what is Jewishness anyway? Most American Jews are hybrids like me. I'm generally Celtic with a tiny bit of Italian... big deal..man is man and woman is woman...say what you want about Celtic races and I'll laugh it up.

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OH LOOK A SWASTIKA!!!

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https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


David Dom Lemieux
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david: I am no great admirer of Mr/Ms Orridge, and have no views on this issue.

No great admirer of that stalwart of Thelema Orridge...oh, ok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKbbIybtVM [Boyd, speaking on Nazi and White Aryan Resistance founder Tom Metzger’s cable TV show “Race and Reason”, mentions here how your man Doug Pearce and also Current 93 are fellow “racialist bands” who share his Nazi views and are working with him to create a cultural basis for an “Aryan youth movement”]

Yep I've seen that interview...it's hilarious...it's also...DRUMROLL...….a prank

y'know like Crowley's pranks e.g. the one he put in print about sacrificing 100 boys or sacrificing a cat to see if it had 9 lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG6YuFNZ0g

Geddit?!!

No, unfortunately you're not getting it. You see a swastika and fly off the handle...congratulations, an artist (one with balls of steel) pushed your buttons. Y'know, a pure artist like Orridge who walks the walk flirting with real danger and doesn't just talk the talk hence his and Rice's enduring camaraderie.

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OH look a swastika!! Shocking!! Call the cops!!

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


David Dom Lemieux
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I can see your Rice photo post yes but I can't see mine. My posts with youtube links and photobucket links are not going through.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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Mine appeared when i took out one link, so i think posts with more than 5 links go into limbo.


David Dom Lemieux
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david: I am no great admirer of Mr/Ms Orridge, and have no views on this issue.

No great admirer of that stalwart of Thelema Orridge...oh, ok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKbbIybtVM [Boyd, speaking on Nazi and White Aryan Resistance founder Tom Metzger’s cable TV show “Race and Reason”, mentions here how your man Doug Pearce and also Current 93 are fellow “racialist bands” who share his Nazi views and are working with him to create a cultural basis for an “Aryan youth movement”]

Yep I've seen that interview...it's hilarious...I'm pretty sure that it's also...DRUMROLL...….a prank
y'know like Crowley's pranks e.g. the one he put in print about sacrificing 100 boys or sacrificing a cat to see if it had 9 lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG6YuFNZ0g

Geddit??!!

No, unfortunately you're not getting it. You see a swastika and fly off the handle...congratulations, an artist (one with balls of steel) pushed your buttons. Y'know, a pure artist like Orridge who walks the walk flirting with real danger and doesn't just talk the talk hence his and Rice's enduring camaraderie.

Rice has/had Jewish friends, his idol and best friend was Anton LaVey, a Jew.

No, a real Nazi is like the Norton character in the movie American History X
who will not tolerate Elliot Gould's character dating his mother.

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OH look a swastika!! Call the cops!!

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


David Dom Lemieux
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LOU REED : "y'now Andy (Warhol) always got a kick out of stirring up the bourgeoise"

INTERVIEWER : "but why stir up the bourgeoise?"

LOU REED : "that's what they are there for"

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https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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OK, so Boyd's long-term public advocacy of "racialism", fascism, rape, etc, are just pranks, in your judgement. He tells you he is a Nazi, poses for pictures in various Nazi uniforms, etc etc etc, but you discount this because Art.

His work still sucks, and he's still a Nazi.

When you can find the Stooges, Lou Reed, or Andy Warhol advocating "racialism", get back to me.

Incidentally, Neil Megson (aka Mr/Ms P'Orridge) is not Jewish, as you seem to imply above; raised Anglican. When has he/she said they were a Thelemite again?

Howard Levey was indeed ethnically Jewish, but I think we have to take him at his word that he was a Satanist.

Here are some funny Nazis for you:

https://youtu.be/gYdmk3GP3iM


David Dom Lemieux
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OK, so Boyd’s long-term public advocacy of “racialism”, fascism, rape, etc, are just pranks, in your judgement.

It looks that way. I showed you that video in which he describes how he is a lifelong prankster. We know his roots are Dadaism. I just don't think that someone like Orridge would associate with someoe who he thought was a real racist Nazi. It's not like Rice distributes blatant anti-Semitic pamphlets like Richard Wagner did. He went om that KKK TV programme and it looks like a joke to me, he certainly seems to be taking advantage of those hosts.

By the way you cited Mark E.Smith as someone you admire. It's a fact that he publicly cited Bernard Manning, a UK comedian, as being one of his idols. Manning, who once said on live TV "Isn't it great when white people get together?"

He tells you he is a Nazi,

When? Where? Show me where Rice says he is a nazi or a racist?

poses for pictures in various Nazi uniforms

like Sid Vicious and Souxsie Sioux and Orridge and etc etc. Please explain that, were those two Nazis also?

, etc etc etc, but you discount this because Art.
His work still sucks, and he’s still a Nazi.

I'll try yet again...show me a Nazi who has Jewish friends like Rodney Bingenheimer. Did Himmler or Goebbels have Jewish friends? Then again there's a possibility that Hitler was of Jewish ancestry so maybe the answer is yes.

When you can find the Stooges, Lou Reed, or Andy Warhol advocating “racialism”, get back to me.

I can't.

Incidentally, Neil Megson (aka Mr/Ms P’Orridge) is not Jewish,

No you're getting confused I never used Megson as an example as one of his Jewish friends but as a like-minded controversial artist and friend (he himself was accused of being fascist by idiotic journalists).

Howard Levey was indeed ethnically Jewish, but

….. but that doesn't matter because you've made your mind up that Rice is a Nazi. What about Motorhead's Lemmy and his Nazi regalia collection, iron crosses etc and his treasured paper with Hitler's signature on it? Was Lemmy a Nazi?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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David Dom Lemieux
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@ignant666

Apparently "the origin for the (racialsit TV) interview, according to Boyd, was in a proposed book about extreme political figures in America - he wrote to plenty of figures (like Farrakhan) hoping to interview them but only Metzger responded."

Makes sense.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Here is some music about how "sick and ridiculous" Nazis like Boyd and Death In June are:

https://youtu.be/QT2-iobVcdw

Excerpt from the lyrics:

Oh, Lord, don't let 'em shoot us!
Oh, Lord, don't let 'em stab us!
Oh, Lord, no more swastikas!
Oh, Lord, don't let 'em tar and feather us!
Boo! Nazi Fascist supremists!
Boo! Ku Klux Klan! (With your Jim Crow plan)

BTW, david since you cite as evidence that Boyd is just a play-Nazi, and not "a real racist Nazi" (is there some other kind?) that "It’s not like Rice distributes blatant anti-Semitic pamphlets like Richard Wagner did.", you might want to review the following:

Rice has been known to sell at his shows and read as part of his performance from a racist, anti-Semitic book called "Might is Right", by Ragnar Redbeard. "Might is Right" includes an afterword from George Eric Hawthorne, the former singer of the neo-nazi band RAHOWA (RAcial HOly WAr) and founder of the white power music label Resistance Records. The book was edited by Katja Lane, wife of the imprisoned David Lane, a neo-nazi member of the Order that committed several armored car heists and murdered Jewish talk-show host Alan Berg in the 1980s. Proceeds from the book go to support David Lane and similar white supremacist political prisoners.

from http://libcom.org/library/death-in-june-a-nazi-band

Incidentally, i can assure you that "call[ing] the cops" is very far down my list when i spot Nazis on the hoof. More like time for batting practice.


David Dom Lemieux
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Idiotic and mindless to just keep on repeating the same crap but I guess Paul is allowing it.

Anyway enough of my head banging against a wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbBqBOSXlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcL0mjMjw

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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Here is a quote from Douglas Pearce of Death In June, from the link i just shared, that just deserves to be memorialized. It is almost certainly the most narcissistic reason to be a Nazi imaginable:

I prefer to suck, white, uncircumsised cocks of a certain age so I suppose that rules out quite a few races and religions in one huge act of sexual discrimination. However, that's natural selection for you. It follows on that, of course race is important to me!

Mr Pearce displays an impressive lack of understanding of what they used to call "the facts of life" in school in imagining a sexual preference among men for certain types of men is likely to be due to "natural selection".


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@ignant

Rice has been known to sell at his shows and read as part of his performance from a racist, anti-Semitic book called “Might is Right”, by Ragnar Redbeard.

..the book that inspired Jewish man LaVey's Satanic Bible which inspired Rice as a teen in the 60s.....but there was no neo-Nazi foreword there.

I'm done with this silly discussion and I understand that you hate artists who flirt with the memory of the Third Reich. I genuinely get it, it isn't pleasant to flirt with political hate-groups. Those Nazi bands mentioned earlier absolutely suck, I can't believe people buy into that utter garbage. Rice's music generally sucks too but his early foray as a Surrealsit artist into the experimental music scene was ground breaking and some say he and a few others invented industrial music. Incidentally Marylin Manson describes Rice as his "mentor".

Anyway this is a favourite music thread;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVOc-SM8kHc

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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If you think taking a firm and hard line against neo-fascism is "silly", david, i can only say that maybe things are different in the UK than they are here in the USA.

Late Aerosmith (the era you posted) and Supertramp also suck in my opinion, as does Marilyn Manson. Here is an Aerosmith song that does not suck, their cover of the classic "Train Kept A Rollin" from their second and best album Get Your Wings.

https://youtu.be/_EvGn22Mplg


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https://youtu.be/wkN0YJGwdkA


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https://youtu.be/j8H6nYKqT7E


David Dom Lemieux
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If you think taking a firm and hard line against neo-fascism is “silly”, david, i can only say that maybe things are different in the UK than they are here in the USA.

The neo fascism is the usual WASP sectarian segregationism yes.....but fascism is not just WASP orientated. It can be female, non-white, non Anglo- Saxon non Protestant...and err here's my man Todd;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzU3tXXd8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCiaCz-dSs

… Ice T sums it up;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ejj7XJHHJE

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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This is one of my favourites, 'Let me Get What I want' by The Smiths. I didn't really like the Smiths in their heyday (the 1980s), but recently I've come to appreciate their melodies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nxQLJmshak


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Morrisey a good voice but he managed to infect modern culture with that Romantic negativity that Colin Wilson discusses.

Johnny Marr, what an artist.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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A song for all the Death In June fans.

https://youtu.be/HPXHRX8Q2hs

And now some serious music:

Funny how, despite being male members (so to speak) of the "Master Race", Douglas Pearce, and Boyd Rice, can't produce any memorable or interesting music, and and somehow this biological inferior- a woman (few artists are more misogynist than DIJ or Boydie), of an inferior race that they want to exterminate, can produce great art that leaves their sad Nazi kiddie music in the dust.

https://youtu.be/aWPFDDuru4w


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No it was written by an American Russian-Jew (are we still putting people into categories here?), she just sang it but I get your point. I am disappointed at some of the music produced on this thread, some real garbage, shows me there is something wrong.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Let's go. Rip Rig & Panic with a "little" help from Don Cherry.

https://youtu.be/yQ9pLUUS5sw

P-Funk Brides elaborate on Love is the law, love under will.

https://youtu.be/qIrQCD_ML5U


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Now nearly 20 pages in size it's not really enough any longer to slap down a piece of music from youtube or wherever and expect anyone to listen to it --- life's too short for that, and your taste might be shit. At least go to the trouble of writing a couple of lines in explanation to suggest why you think it might be worth it, or you'll run the risk of your recommendation being routinely ignored. I know I do! 🙂

Suck it & see,
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Mal, didn't you read what I just posted above or are you just not capable of writing just a couple of short lines saying why you think we should listen to your suggestion?

Z Joy


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Your demanding post was blessed with the attention it deserved. None.


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@Jamie

Yes, yes, Jamie, of course. Right now I'm trying to regain the balance, see what ignant666 has written above. And I expect nothing, I'm too old and too rheumatic. C'mon, this is JUST music.

“If the music doesn’t speak for itself, then nobody’s words are going to be able to help it speak.” (John Coltrane)

“Words do not describe music the way that they describe life. Music speaks to us on a higher level than words.” (Marion Brown)

This is Blakey's The Sacrifice, recorded in 1957 era vulgaris.

https://youtu.be/P0BgqQ8vDEY


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Aaand to keep it rolling, here's Alice Coltrane playing the harp and leading a group that included Rashied Ali and Pharaoh Sanders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXld33YuKNo

Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchitananda (1970)


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music time language vortexis

https://youtu.be/T1j1_aeK6WA


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https://youtu.be/KXM3DuUftKE


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@mal :

Your demanding post was blessed with the attention it deserved. None.

So terribly demanding was it, mal, for you to write a couple of lines by way of explanation as to why you happen to like something e.g. for those not familiar with Swans? I'm so sorry I made such awful demands on your valuable time!

Do whatever the hell you want to do is your law here, of course, so go right on straight ahead & give my constructive suggestion no attention --- just the same as your music posts without a word of explanation will probably hardly receive any attention either. Especially so since at 20+ pages this thread is already far too long and in a page or two's time, apart from the odd person wanting to burrow backwards in it your recommendations will be as dust. Ideally it could all do with some sort of an index - but then I don't suppose you'd be in the running for doing that useful little job, would you?

Yrs constructively,
N Joy


David Dom Lemieux
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@Mal

Gira and Swans. Amazing, always loved them. Totally revolutionary and original. Musically blunt but that was the point, contemporary artists playing around with rock guitar and sequencing technology.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


ignant666
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Maybe i mentioned this during my recent "memoirs" period but those boys (Swans) are old comrades since the early '80s.

Mikey Gira (and bassist Algis Kyzis) attended all three of my birthday parties when i was a law student in the early '90s; probably few law students past or present can say the same. Norman Westberg, the guitarist (who i used to be in a band with called Dr. No-Smell (named after a popular East Harlem brand of "angel dust" (PCP)) only came to two of them.

This is my favorite Swans recording, a Joy Division cover, all mentioned above play on it, i forget if this is Teddy Parsons on Vinnie Signorelli on drums:

https://youtu.be/dp017Crrx7I


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