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wellreadwellbred
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01/12/2018 11:23 am  

Michael Staley: "What is it that you find so fascinating about Hubbard, wellreadwellbred?"

My point is that I am interested in the image of Scientology and its founder in Popular Culture, like for example TV shows.

In the scholarly anthology Scientology and Popular Culture: Influences and Struggles for Legitimacy, Hugh Urban makes a comparison between Hubbard and Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.

On page 45 arguing that Hubbard’s aesthetics culminates in the idea of the artist’s life as the supreme work of art, but that the thetan [akin to True Will in Crowley's Thelema] in Hubbard's goes far beyond Nietzsche’s Übermensch.

On the same page stating that "Hubbard articulated what is arguably the boldest and most radical formulation of the idea that we can in fact create our own realities."

And on page 46 concluding that Scientology is perhaps best understood as a religion of the author, a religion based on a profound faith in the ability of the individual to write its own story, to imagine its own universe, and to become all powerful within that universe.

Hubbard stating that Aleister Crowley "... did himself a splendid piece of aesthetics", appears to be his nod to another 'religion of the author' author. (Source: L. Ron Hubbard speaks about Aleister Crowley)


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wellreadwellbred
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01/12/2018 1:31 pm  

Correction:

On page 45 arguing that Hubbard’s aesthetics culminates in the idea of the artist’s life as the supreme work of art, but that the thetan [akin to True Will in Crowley’s Thelema] in Hubbard’s Scientology goes far beyond Nietzsche’s Übermensch.


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29/07/2019 3:02 pm  

I am enjoying this show and I hope others do too.

the thetan [akin to True Will in Crowley’s Thelema] in Hubbard’s goes far beyond Nietzsche’s Übermensch.

citation wanted lol!

Force and Fire is not metaphorical. In Prophetes Veritas Venit.


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Shiva
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29/07/2019 5:58 pm  

wr: [quoting] ... the thetan [akin to True Will in Crowley’s Thelema] in Hubbard’s Scientology ...

In theory perhaps, but not in practice.

OTs (Operating Thetans, not ETs) were (are) Elron's Inner Order. There were several of them at the L.A. Hq back in the late 60s. If they all measured up to the theory, then we'd have had a bunch of Magi, 9=2s, running around making sure everything was working according to Elron's Borg-mind.

The Book of Lies, Ch 58, describes this phenomenon:

"Wilt thou endure unto The End, O FRATER PERDURABO, O Lamp in The Abyss?
Thou hast the Keystone of the Royal Arch;
yet the apprentices, instead of making bricks,
put the straws in their hair, and think they are Jesus Christ!

"O sublime tragedy and comedy of THE GREAT WORK!"


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christibrany
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29/07/2019 6:28 pm  

RE Strange Angel: I heard on the grapevine (from a former Scientologist no less) that due to budget issues the series is cancelled/ending early with this last 7th episode of season 2 being the finale. Not sure if that is the final truth but thought I would put it out there. I haven't watched it yet but I Have been reading some reviews. The show doesn't seem very accurate to real life/history.


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Shiva
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29/07/2019 7:19 pm  

cs: The show doesn’t seem very accurate to real life/history.

Behold the powers of Spin and Sensationalism.


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wellreadwellbred
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30/09/2019 7:21 am  

wrwb [me]: "I have earlier on this thread suggested that the American actor Eric Stoltz could play Lafayette Ron Hubbard in Strange Angel returning for a Season 2. But it might be the case that that a character based on Hubbard will not figure in the second season for this show."

Spoiler alert, LRH does figure in Strange Angel season 2:

"StrangeAngel (s02e07) - Parsons meets L. Ron Hubbard (last scene)": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Fem_yh26g


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Jamie J Barter
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30/09/2019 10:39 am  

Parsons meets L. Ron Hubbard

The name's Hubbard --- Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. "But my friends call me Ron."

Priceless! You could not make this stuff up! Though someone has...

How d'you do, cliché city
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30/09/2019 7:37 pm  

JB: “But my friends call me Ron.”

... and my detractors call me Elron."


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Jamie J Barter
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30/09/2019 8:53 pm  

… and my detractors call me Elron.”

Not to mention a 'bare-faced messiah', a fantasising, paranoid litigation-happy confidence-trickstering shyster of the first order. (Allegedly.)

And A.C. himself called him (together with Jack) a goat!! --- or was it a lout?? Made him fairly frantic, it did, just the act of contemplating about the idiocy of his shenanigans (or so we are told --- after all, it says so in the scriptures, I mean letters...)

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wellreadwellbred
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01/10/2019 11:13 pm  

JJB: "... A.C. himself called him (together with Jack) a goat!! — or was it a lout?? Made him fairly frantic, it did, just the act of contemplating about the idiocy of his shenanigans ..."

What, in short, was the main mistake they (= Parsons and Hubbard) made, according to AC? Was it The Babalon Working 1946?


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