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Since i dont have a copy of Liber Lilith yet....... 😥 i thought i would ask the forum members who have a copy of it, for a mini review of Liber Lilith. How do you compare this book to Tyson's previous stuff? How does Tyson get to grips with the Typhonian symbolism and relate it to his "story"?

Any opinions out there?...


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spartacus_mills
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I'd actually been planning on writing a review but have been too lazy to do so. Here's a few brief comments.

The book is not structured like a novel. There are three parts following an introduction that sets the scene; a German occultist discovers a grimoire that's possibly from the collection of Dr. Dee. The first part of the book is the grimoire itself. The early chapters of which are of a gnostic bent. The remainder consists of instructions as to how to establish contact with Lilith mainly using sex-magick techniques.
The next part of the novel is the magickal diary of our German friend that details his experiments based on the grimoire. The final part of the book is an analysis of the grimoire and diary. There's also a few chapters about gnostic beliefs and how the grimoire fits into this.

The book is fiction in the same way as a Kenneth Grant novella is; i.e magickal techniques and concepts presented as fiction.

Michael Staley has pointed out that the grimoire was a 'received' or 'inspired' text. I'm hoping that he'll make available a transcript of a talk that was given at the book's launch party....

I'm not familiar with Tyson's earlier books so I don't know how this one compares.


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Michael Staley
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"spartacus_mills" wrote:
Michael Staley has pointed out that the grimoire was a 'received' or 'inspired' text. I'm hoping that he'll make available a transcript of a talk that was given at the book's launch party....

It's not so much a transcript, more a reconstruction. Apart from the passages by Donald Tyson concerning the genesis of the book, the talk was pretty much off the cuff. Unfortunately that shirt went straight in the laundry (no, don't ask ) - echoes of the visitor from Porlock, I expect.

Unless Paul allows it to be available via the at-present-defunct download area of beloved memory, the transcript (or reconstructed cuff) will be available from starfire.books@btinternet.com

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Hi,

I'm almost finished reading Liber Lilith and will be popping up a review of the book very soon. I really enjoyed it and found the "faction" parts of the book very interesting.

Cheers Paolo


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James
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Just to add my two penn'eth. Very much enjoyed (?) reading Liber Lilith. Tyson is a great scholar as his edition of Agrippa's three books shows. It is well informed and believable - the stuff of nightmares. In fact all quite gothic really!

I would also like to thank him for telling of a new way to use pendulums to contact spirits. I shall be dusting my old 'swinger' from Sorcerer's Apprentice off and giving it a go soon!

Regards,

Jamie


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lashtal
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"MichaelStaley" wrote:
Unless Paul allows it to be available via the at-present-defunct download area of beloved memory, the transcript (or reconstructed cuff) will be available from starfire.books@btinternet.com

All will be back to normal on the download front very soon...

Paul

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kidneyhawk
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All will be back to normal on the download front very soon...

Very cool-! 😀


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 Anonymous
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I am half way through the book so far, and I have specifically found the first part of the book, the grimoire, very interesting indeed. I am very sure that I will have to spend more time working over the elements within its structure though at some future date...one could not avoid being struck by the many gems of magickal gnosis which flicker out from the page during a casual read....so, I will come back to them.

The story which unfolds from this grimoire is very well written, so far, I am at the point where subtle changes and all sorts of bizarre tangential tantras are occuring amongst the characters surrounding Karl during his magickal invocation of Lilith...it is very true to life, 'how the magick comes alive'...

I will post more when I have finished the book.

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Io Pan!

Charles


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 Anonymous
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I'm half way through the new version (2014) of 'Liber Lilith'. I know this thread is from 2006.. still, I wanted to say 1) I love the book.. haven't read an occult novel for a while.. great stuff!  2) How does the 2014 version differ from the 2006 version (if at all)?
Cheers,
D.


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Michael Staley
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There are no substantial differences so far as the text is concerned, just a tweak here and there. The main change is in the first section, the grimoire, which is now presented in a readable font (Georgia) rather than the stylish but difficult gothic font in which it was formerly set. The other change is new cover artwork.

At one time I thought of suggesting to the author the inclusion in this second publication of a short talk I gave at the launch of the first version, drawing an analogy between the grimoire as a 'received' text, and others of that category such as Liber Legis, the receptions of Enochian by Dee and Kelly, etc. In the event, though, I decided against it.

Michael Staley,
Starfire Publishing Ltd.,

http://www.starfirepublishing.co.uk/
admin@starfirepublishing.co.uk


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 Anonymous
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Thanks for clarifying that, Michael. I couldn't put the book down! (Which is unusual for me, since I don't normally read 'fiction' etc. these days). Great work, and thanks for notifying people about the book prior to its release (it's not the sort of thing I would have found otherwise).

Kind Regards,
Dean.


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Mazus
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Michael,
Is the transcript of your talk available?


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Michael Staley
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"Mazus" wrote:
Michael,
Is the transcript of your talk available?

I'm happy to provide a copy to you in PDF, Mazus, if you email me at admin@starfirepublishing.co.uk


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christibrany
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I love this book; my favourite bit is the diary part, as it is more entertaining, I really really wish it had gone on longer.  But the grimoire does seem interesting and I would love to work with it some day when I feel up to it. No pun intended 😉  I have the original paperback, I love the cover by stafford stone immensely too.


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