... yes ... [suries and bobs omitted]
I see. This puts you in a strange category. It is difficult to trust the hallucinations of a drug addict.
Says a man who did 'legal libations'
I know you are joking so it's ok.
I guess there shall be no 'Circuit Analysis' of journeys through various ethers.
One can say that , I believe ruach mostly rules our thought after we break out of mundanity
I guess there shall be no 'Circuit Analysis' of journeys through various ethers.
Why, no, not at all - the meditative medication tells which sfear was involved.
{Legal} in your State [of mind][and sovereign land] would point to Hod, which is no surprise because that's where the forums and the busy human mind tend to emanate, or emigrate to.
However the serp is a giveaway to Yesod. The candidate gets swallowed there, into the Tuat - to confront the serp. The big question is - where (which way) do you go after you were shat out?
I believe ruach mostly rules our thought after we break out of mundanity
Not "mostly," but totally. To trance-end Ruach is to tran-send the thinking principle. Now, if you were to tans-end all this crap, and then come back to normal twit status ... but you have a memory of something that happened while you were out to brunch. This is because the [linear] mind can go along for the ride, but only if it stays in absolute neutral. In neutral, it can receive images from the so-called akashic Records, or the human "mind-sphere," or the "collective unconscious" (did you know these three names are describing the same concept?), and then they can write things down or draw pictures.
A more advanced form of this wizardry is when a "fun guy" comes over and you end up with pen and paper, and you are writing things down as fast as you can - not thinking - just "channeling." AC called it "automatic writing." There is also automatic typing. AL describes this, calling attention to the fact that Frater P is trying to control the monologue/dialogue ...
"I see thee hate the hand & the pen; but I am stronger. Because of me in Thee which thou knewest not.
This is how Class A docs are writ ... ideally ... but without hating the hand & pen. That came later. Certain medicines, legal at that time, allowed him to relax a bit.
Please put your paper into the proper format. Clean it up without changing the style of a letter, and add the Class A do-dad with your personal or org logo up front.
Okay, forget the chakra-circuit doodads; I think I sent you a Master Codex chapter where all that is laid out in kindergaten fashion. If not, just ask. But I will trade stories with you.
I was facing the National Karate Champion (5 years - he defeated all comers, until sensei said, "No more." (This is an honor and prep for the next grade - some people get upset). He was refining his sweeping motions, which were NOT on the class agenda. Every time I stepped in with what we were supposed to be doing, I would find my butt on the floor. This guy, a Japanese person by ancestry, was perhaps the smoothest, faster guy around (in the competion, not the teachers).
I hear that Karate that we know today is useless for actual real world self-defense. For example, you can't block a machete with your forearm. None of the moves in any of the belts are useful for any basic attack are they? Isn’t karate basically just a combat sport designed only for people who practise karate?
If that is the case then which martial are actually practical for self defense?
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I hear that Karate that we know today is useless for actual real world self-defense. For example, you can't block a machete with your forearm.
You are speaking of the Tai-Kwon-Do type of Karate, which is similar to McDonalds in the fodd industry. Okinawa-te, which preced Japanese Karate, was based on "empty-hand" defense against samurai swords. All the weapons-defense maneuvers are in the kata (forms), but nobody pays much attention to them in practical application.
This is why it's important to train in some other line, as well. Kendo and Aikido lend a different perspective, and they are based on marchetes curvy swords.
I hear that Karate that we know today is useless for actual real world self-defense. For example, you can't block a machete with your forearm.
You are speaking of the Tai-Kwon-Do type of Karate, which is similar to McDonalds in the fodd industry. Okinawa-te, which preced Japanese Karate, was based on "empty-hand" defense against samurai swords. All the weapons-defense maneuvers are in the kata (forms), but nobody pays much attention to them in practical application.
This is why it's important to train in some other line, as well. Kendo and Aikido lend a different perspective, and they are based on marchetes curvy swords.
What about shotokan?
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What about shotokan?
The weapons-defense maneuvers are in the kata.
Enpi Shotokan Kata With a Sword
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKW9L-Vp6Hg
I hear that Karate that we know today is useless for actual real world self-defense. For example, you can't block a machete with your forearm.
You are speaking of the Tai-Kwon-Do type of Karate, which is similar to McDonalds in the fodd industry. Okinawa-te, which preced Japanese Karate, was based on "empty-hand" defense against samurai swords. All the weapons-defense maneuvers are in the kata (forms), but nobody pays much attention to them in practical application.
This is why it's important to train in some other line, as well. Kendo and Aikido lend a different perspective, and they are based on marchetes curvy swords.
I meant if the opponent has a weapon but you don't i.e. not in a dojo but in the real world.
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I meant if the opponent has a weapon but you don't i.e. not in a dojo but in the real world.
I merely cited that to show the weapons are not neglected, not as "empty-hand" weapon defense.
. Real world. We will have to go back fifty (50) years. Japanese Police Dept has a Hostage Squad. When they get an irreconcilable situation, they call Tongo Tanaka (some nick-name) - an on-call, one-man, hostage-negotiator, who does not negotiate.
He goes in, alone. He comes out with the hostage(s). Always. Who dies was not mentioned in the results-oriented viewpoint of the article in Black Belt Magazine, 5 decades ago.
This is the 8-circuit thread. Let me point out, or remind, that the super-hero stuff of Tongo Tanaka, the stuff portrayed by film greats, and legendary guys (some of whom are on youTube) are all 8th dan. An 8th degree black belt, if real, is equivalent to a Magister Templi, and it engages the 8th circuit - which is why weird, unexplained things take place. All of it is wu-wei.
This is not taught in our neighborhood dojos. It is not taught at the usual black-belt levels (1-3). It is not taught at any level, but it is demonstrated and sometimes (rarely) discussed by 10th dans.
So, this meta-reality in combat (wu-wei) is not going to be taught locally. One is lucky (or destined) to hear a real master sensei give out a few secrets. I will give one or two if you like. You are correct - basic Karate (and all the rest, because it's the most efficient) is not going to help against an experienced street or jail fighter, Amazonian native, or methedrine-crazed manic weilding a machete.
You must either get to the 8th dan or get a gun. If guns are illegal, then go down the "No-chain" 'til you arrive at the most efficient "yes" item. Then go back to the (any) dojo and keep the grindstone to your nose. The Attractive Principle comes into play for anyone who perseveres in any discipline ... one is gradually led higher and higher, in daily life, to the big deal of learning the secret of the 8th degree. Then the gun (or puny substitute) probably won't be needed.
@shiva Do you think there are other martial arts that are more effective than karate for real world self- defense situations?
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Do you think there are other martial arts that are more effective than karate
Karate is the most effective that I've seen - but that's for beginners. In terms of putting in 20 years of training, any of the arts can be effective. It's the individual person's skill, you see, not the mechanics of the style.
Karate is the most effective that I've seen - but that's for beginners. In terms of putting in 20 years of training, any of the arts can be effective. It's the individual person's skill, you see, not the mechanics of the style.
If a bigger guy grabs a karate-guy's collars and starts getting aggressive what should an effectual karate guy going to do? Also, in another scenario, if a guy unexpectedly pulls a machete out of his coat pocket and proceeds to prepare to swing it back with the aim of hitting an effectual karate-guy with it, what should the latter do?
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My credentials: zero karate lessons, watched some. A year of aikido not very diligently pursued. Many fights during misspent youth.
SCENARIO A: headbutt, fingers gouge eyes, smash cartilage of nose into brain with heel of hand, box ears hard, elbow strike to face, wrist strike to face, various hand strikes, punches to face, ditto all strikes/punches to body, neck, elbows, wrists of attacker, knee to groin, stomp insteps, leg-sweep, kick to knees, throw over hip, throw over shoulder. Hit dude with stuff that is around. Break bottle, heavy glass, beer mug; gouge/cut.
SCENARIO B*: Best to shoot dude.
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*Those are some "coat pockets" that allow one to "unexpectedly pull" a machete BTW.
My credentials: zero karate lessons, watched some. A year of aikido not very diligently pursued. Many fights during misspent youth.
SCENARIO A: headbutt, fingers gouge eyes, smash cartilage of nose into brain with heel of hand, box ears hard, elbow strike to face, wrist strike to face, various hand strikes, punches to face, ditto all strikes/punches to body, neck, elbows, wrists of attacker, knee to groin, stomp insteps, leg-sweep, kick to knees, throw over hip, throw over shoulder. Hit dude with stuff that is around. Break bottle, heavy glass, beer mug; gouge/cut.
SCENARIO B*: Best to shoot dude.
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*Those are some "coat pockets" that allow one to "unexpectedly pull" a machete BTW.
The underlying theme is; imagine someone clueless about self-defense and they never did much fighting at all so they are looking for a school of martial arts to help them with such scenarios. You just described stuff from experience, that doesn't help, the sub-thread is' is karate useful for real world self-defense'?
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That's the stuff they teach you (or some of it, depending on school and style) at "a school of martial arts".
It's the individual person's skill, you see, not the mechanics of the style.
I am immediately reminded of the scene from the wonderful film, Ip Man:
- Kam Shan-chu: My northern boxing has lost to your southern one.
- Ip Man: No, it's not a matter of northern or southern style. The problem is you.
Not being a martial artist (I took Karate very briefly-and badly), I was still moved by this powerful statement as it applies to many issues of contention between Magical Schools. "Superiority" will be determined by how the Magician works with the Teaching and Practice, regardless of how "abrogate" some may wish to call it.
If a bigger guy grabs a karate-guy's collars and starts getting aggressive what should an effectual karate guy going to do?
Exactly what Gichin Funakoshi, the Founder of Shotokan Karetedo, did ... in real life: You grab the big guy's testicles and squeeze very hard, using dharana to maintain the focus and Ki to maintain the vise. You may let go when the big guy passes out and falls down. Funakoshi was mortified at what he had done ... but it worked.
Note: The assailant was an Okinawa-te assassin sent to kill him as he was teaching the secrets to the hated Japanese. What a story!
what should the latter do?
Oh, give me a break. Do you want the Shotokan assassins coming after me because I'm revealing secrets to the Brits. (I am part Brit, so maybe it'll be okay).
Please go to this video of ME, in which (at the end - after the Tai Chi) I demonstrate samurai sword (machete) defense. Note that the assailant had never been thrown before, and she would be going down on concrete, so I went very slowly and gently. This is good as it allows you to actually see what's happening, rather than catch a blurry WTF? that looks like a rehearsed fake maneuver.
Here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8ANV_wA_0&t=352s
Thank you for coming to the Dragon's Mouth for your first-hand, previously-prepared video answers to your intimate, non-AC-related, questions.
If you say, "Yeah, but ..." then you have no choice but to come here and get thrown while attempting to assassinate me with a wooden machete.
smash cartilage of nose into brain with heel of hand
This one may work, but is mostly myth. However, if one breaks the beak with a knife-hand chop first - then extends one's iron palm chi to the rear of the assailant's head (passing thru the broken bone splinters), then one is performing the maneuver according to ancient prescribed tradition ... and the attacker with die.
Please pardon the graphic display, but surgery and Mars are usually kinda messy.
Interestingly, ALL of the maneuvers you mention are found, somewhere, in the kata. But the way you describe it, as if one is doing this all at once, very fast, is exactly what they teach in one lineage of Ninjutsu. Watching Ninja Turtles movies is good homework, I suppose - but I don't know, because I've never watched one. Bruce Lee is incredibly fast. He covers all the bases in his movies - I've seen those, and I endorse them.
looking for a school of martial arts to help them with such scenarios.
Shotokan.
JKA (Jap. Kar. Assn.) - same as Shotokan
Kyokushin (Mas Oyama school) -
This [^] one is for really-real. They use gloves, but no padding or body armor like the Tae-Kwon-Do wimps. No pulling punches 1/4"-inch short, like in Shotokan (Shotokan guys are not allowed to start fights. So they go to the lower east sides of cities, where fights will find them. This is the real-world training of Shotokan. It is not approved or even mentioned ... but it is the tradition.
This training ground is not exclusive to Shotokan. One Shotokan sensei said that when he was younger, it was the WFC guys that he worried about (they are professionals, you know?).
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To get to the bottom line, a wimp shoulf first learn to grasp the testicles, then to kick the testicles - hard, then to ram stiff fingertips into the groove either side of the adam's apple (throat). No muscle-bound thug has muscle-armor at these points. Ignant mentioned "eyes." Yes, all these are in the kata, and all styles are at least aware of them. They are called "dirty fighting," as if they were a sport.
Please go to this video of ME, in which (at the end - after the Tai Chi) I demonstrate samurai sword (machete) defense. Note that the assailant had never been thrown before, and she would be going down on concrete, so I went very slowly and gently. This is good as it allows you to actually see what's happening, rather than catch a blurry WTF? that looks like a rehearsed fake maneuver.
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To get to the bottom line, a wimp shoulf first learn to grasp the testicles, then to kick the testicles - hard, then to ram stiff fingertips into the groove either side of the adam's apple (throat). No muscle-bound thug has muscle-armor at these points. Ignant mentioned "eyes." Yes, all these are in the kata, and all styles are at least aware of them. They are called "dirty fighting," as if they were a sport.
That sword- defense move, is it taught as a move in any school of martial arts?
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That sword- defense move, is it taught as a move in any school of martial arts?
In Aikido, it is called Yokomen Uchi Shihoh Nage. It is one of the most basic movements, usually taught within the first two months. Hey! You took some Aiki - how did you miss this one?
Anyway, ALL of Aikido is based on empty-handed defense against a curvy razor-edged thing called a samurai sword that, yes, is about the length of a long machete
A similar Karate movement is introduced into Heian number five - the kata for advancing to 4th kyu (class) - the equivalent of Chesed in all the colored belts leading up to black belt - usually earned about a year after starting [Shotokan]..
It is "similar" (to Aiki) in that it takes a sharp thing away from an opponent. It is different in that the karateka doesn't twirl around, but rather the wrist of the attacker gets twirled instead ... with potential sprain/dislocation from the wrist up to the shoulder ... followed by a "killing blow" (full-focus stepping-in front-punch).
So, you see, the "secrets" of these arts are (just like the initiatory path) all right there up-front from (almost) the very beginning. [Let me count ...] - Yes, it took me 40 years to realize what a certain move in that same kata implied; and I wasn't the smart-guy who figured it out - I had to be told (casually, in a low voice, as he was walking away - what drama! - by a 3rd-degree black belt.
I smart-guyed in figuring out some other "hidden" movements, but there are probably more still hidden than I have figgered or been told. Here's the deal: The Oriental teachers don't talk about anthing very much. Just "Do this." (a movement is demonstrated).
So you do it (throw a punch, for example). If you're lucky, the sensei comes over and makes correction in your posture, stance, or balance. If it's a big class, you're luck if an assistant instructor comes by and makes corrections. But they don't talk about it.
On the other hand, American sensei are famous for running their mouths for long periods, leaving less time for hard practice. I have attempted to attain the middle way - I give a short lecture on a specific maneuver, which I then demonstrate (on somebody). That's enough talk. I then go to each person and allow them to strike/grab/pull me, as appropriate to the maneuver, and I demonstrate that maneuver. I then set them face to face, one on one, and they repeat the maneuver, ideally three times on the left, then 3 on the right, then they switch sides and repeat.
In hard school, where I once attended, the whole row shifts and each person gets a new oppponent - 3x left, 3x right, switch sides - shift the rows again. You do this for an hour. You get big heavy dudes and lightning fast skinny guys. You get hurt. You carry bruises on your forearms like tokens of valor. Sometimes there is bleeding. Everybody who hangs in there is tough as nails, or getting there fast.
But give me a break. My recent teaching was at a senior center - for 14 years. 3x left, 3x right, switch sides - that was it. But we weren't wimps. Here, for your amusement, and as a way to allow your "real-world" approach, as well as keep the forms alive during the doldrum, I will relate hard training for senior citizens.
On some days, I would leave the dance-hall floor dojo in the senior center and enter the pool-room next door over. I would select four or five pool cues from the racks on the walls and return to the dojo where I would allow them to swing or poke at me, or I would go after them. Now we're old folks, so the intensity was cooled down, but the goal remained to redirect the weapon with Chi-Ki.
No indiction that AC studied pugilism of any sort...there is a report of a sidearm in India!
No indiction that AC studied pugilism of any sort...there is a report of a sidearm in India!
He couldn't fight..at all. There's a report in his Confessions that his arrogant ass was beaten black and blue by some yokels in his university days. The only reported altercation was when he booted a woman (his aunt) down some stairs.
His war took place on other planes like his idol, Nietzsche
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There's the guy he kills in a fight in India or perhaps China, i believe shooting or stabbing was involved if that makes it count less in your eyes.
There's the guy he kills in a fight in India or perhaps China ...
Calcutta. A shadowy figure in a dark alleyway clutched at him. Bang. Then he left for China (so as to be far away).
In China, he grabbed the grubby porter by his beard and threw him off his horse (so as to maintain discipline). In college he thrashed a classmate for saying or writing something he didn't like.
that's about it. He exhibited his manly skills on the mountain tops (or sides), but his face-to-face confrontations were few.