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08/12/2019 2:08 pm  

Between July and August of 1973, Dr. Timothy Leary and a four-person telepathy team separated themselves from the walls of Folsom Prison, where Leary had been incarcerated for many years on a marijuanna possession charge. Leary at this time had spent many months under solitary confinement. Sources say that he emerged from his sensory deprivation still smiling. There was something in his mind telling him, a feeling--a vibration that he had to do something, prison or no prison.
In the middle of the Dog Days of Dog star Sirius, Leary, Leary's wife, Joanna Leary, a fellow prisoner Wayne Benner and a journalist had a collective hallucination, shared without the aid of psychedelics.   In 19 stages of bursts of communication came the following;

(summarized by Robert Anton Wilson as 'Starseed Transmission' as follows;

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It is time for life on Earth to leave the planetary womb and learn to walk through the stars.
Life was seeded on your planet billions of years ago by nucleotide templates which contained the blueprint for gradual evolution through a sequence of biomechanical stages.
The goal of evolution is to produce nervous systems capable of communicating with and returning to the Galactic Network where we, your interstellar parents, await you.
Life on planet Earth has now reached this halfway point, established itself, and evolved through larval mutations and metamorphoses to the seven brain stages.
At this time the voyage home is possible.
Assemble the most intelligent, advanced, courageous of your species, divided equally between men and women. Let every race, nationality, and religion be represented.
You are about to discover the key to immortality in the chemical structure of the genetic code, within which you will find the scripture of life. The time has come for you to accept the responsibility of immortality. It is not necessary for you to die.
You will discover the key to enhanced intelligence within the chemistry of the nervous system. Certain chemicals, used wisely, will enable your nervous system to decipher the genetic code.
All life on your planet is a unity. All life must come home.
Total freedom, responsibility and interspecies harmony will make the voyage possible. You must transcend larval identities of race. culture and nationality. Your only allegiance is to life. The only way you will survive is to make the voyage home.
The Japanese people are the most advanced race on your planet and will give protection to the company.
We are sending a comet to your solar system as a sign that the time has come to look to the stars.
When you arrive back home you will be given new instructions and powers. Your sperm ship is the flower of terrestrial life. As soon as the company is formed and the voyage begun, war, poverty, hatred, fear will disappear from your planet and the most ancient prophecies and celestial visions will be realize.
Mutate!
Come home in glory.
Later that year, Comet Kohoutek (as predicted) arrived in the solar system and spaced out into the sun. 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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08/12/2019 3:06 pm  

Here we go again.

Which part of this do you not think is loopy and delusional? None of the predictions have come true, have they, in the ensuing 46 years?

For those who are new around here, dom, in his former incarnation as david (found in the archives as either "anonymous" or "williams") had a considerable eruption of fandom for Leary's Starseed era "SMI2LE" ("Space Migration, Increased Intelligence, and Life Extension") stuff in 2015 that went on for quite a while.

[why is it that i see the superscript in "SMI2LE" in what i've entered, but then it vanishes in "preview" or when the post appears? The superscript is tagged "P>>KBD>>SUP", fwiw.]


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08/12/2019 3:42 pm  

"Llee Heflin, a San Francisco writer and follower of Aleister Crowley, published what he claimed was a message from the comet in 1974 under the title Words from Kohoutek: The Message of the Serpent and the Dove."

If anyone hasn't emptied their wastebin for a few decades, maybe we can compare Heflin's pamphlet against Leary's and discover how Thelemic Tim actually was.


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08/12/2019 3:57 pm  

Kohoutek, like the 1987 "Harmonic Convergence", the "Millennium" in 2000, the end of the Mayan calendar epoch in 2012, etc. was a very big deal in alternative circles, presaging huge events, until each came and went not with a bang but a whimper.

I was on Heflin's mailing list back then (as a precocious 15 year old Thelemite) and recall getting promo material for the book from his Level Press but did not bite. Perhaps someone did; i am curious.


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08/12/2019 4:06 pm  

@ignant666

Here we go again.
Which part of this do you not think is loopy and delusional? None of the predictions have come true, have they, in the ensuing 46 years?

 

Was there a specific timespan given?    How did a Professor of Pyschology give this group- channeling session credence?   He admitted in posterioty that he did some crazy things in the 60s.  Did he ever dismiss this as part  of the madness of the (post) 60s?   I don't know.   It sounds like a total diversion from his intellectual work.  What was he thinking?   Even RAW gave it credence.    

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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08/12/2019 5:38 pm  
Posted by: @dom

... nervous systems capable of communicating with and returning to the Galactic Network

So far, so good.

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It is not necessary for you to die.

This is a primary concept in New-Age/Outer-Space cosmology. Everyone latches on to promises of living forever. That part of us that "does not die" is already, immortally established before anyone was born into this valley of tears. The Great Work, in its first phase (outer order) is to gain control of one's unruly vehicle and its subconscious impulses.

The second phase (inner order) involves establishing a connection with that pre-birth consciousness ... said connection (called HGA by some) will guide or advise one in how to clean up "past lives," also known as ancestral chi or genetic memory.

The third phase (supernal order) is direct contact with, or overshadowing by, said pre-birth consciousness (Atman, the True Self, the Universal Self).

The fourth phase (the natural state) is when all (all) of the above is seen to be illusion and disappears, leaving whatever is left with nothing.

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Certain chemicals, used wisely, will enable your nervous system to decipher the genetic code.

This is true. But the real goal is to then engage that deciphering without the external chemicals. Leary apparently did this in jail, to a certain extent, but there is no evidence that he was able to fully function in daily life without said chemicals ... right up to his dying day. Then he died.

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When you arrive back home you will be given new instructions and powers.

Supernal Order. "Home" is the Higher/True Self.

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What was he thinking?   Even RAW gave it credence.    

Are there any akashic mind-readers among us? It doesn't matter what RAW gave, but what you, or I, or any other, gives.


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09/12/2019 10:39 pm  

My favourite part of this is 'The Japanese people are the most advanced race on your planet and will give protection to the company.'  😛 

 

Having lived and studied there, and seeing how they handle their disasters and corruption (Fukishima, Yakuza, Okinawan scandals etc) I find this one very entertaining.  They are some of the most depressed and self/country loathing people I have met.  

 

I think that's interesting about the receiving the 'same vision' in different prison cells but where is the proof as always? 


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10/12/2019 12:43 am  

Yep the madness of the …..err.....70s.    

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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10/12/2019 1:34 am  
Posted by: @christibrany

My favourite part of this is 'The Japanese people are the most advanced race on your planet

I don't know if this is true, but the Japanese have the highest IQ of any "race" or "ethnicity.

Posted by: @christibrany

They are some of the most depressed and self/country loathing people I have met. 

Yeah, they say that living together in crowded conditions does wonders for the psyche. If I'm not mistaken, isn't Japan one of, or the, most most densely-populated places around?

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but where is the proof as always? 

The proof is in the pudding. As I just said (over on the RTC thread where I wasn't supposed to be, the proof is found when one reads the transmission, text, or papyrus, and it makes sense. Who cares if three people in isolated faraday cages got the same 100-page text, verbatim? That's only proof of simultaneous reception. What does the doc say? Does it make sense? Does it offer understanding of difficult subjects, or offer practical techniques for survival or transcending? If so ... good!  If not, burn the books and throw the author in the (metaphorical) pit.

There is a whole generation or two out there (out here) who refer to themselves as "Starseeds." They mostly seem to have bizarre notions about themselves and many have been prescribed prozac (or worse).

There certainly is an inter-dimensional aspect to the Great Work, and most serious aspirants start out with asana, pranayama, and banishing. This stuff isn't done in order to gain illumination ... it's done to gain control of one's dork, so that it doesn't act up when "illumination" comes along.

My point is: Like many so-called Thelemites and other Prodigies, most Starseed children haven't done the work.

 


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10/12/2019 3:45 pm  
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Yeah, they say that living together in crowded conditions does wonders for the psyche. If I'm not mistaken, isn't Japan one of, or the, most most densely-populated places around?

Extremely good point BUT I grew up in the Netherlands, which is far denser than Japan (1083 ppl per square mile vs 865 in Japan) and also lived and worked in Korea (denser still, 1339 ppl per square mile) and neither culture seemed to be so down on themselves and jumping in front of trains every week, or locking themselves in their rooms for years (hikikomori), as in Japan.  I think there may be something deeper to this malaise and blackness they feel there.  What exactly it is, I am not sure.  But I sure felt it like a blanket.  Perhaps it has something to do with the war...not sure. 


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10/12/2019 4:59 pm  

I have heard that the Jewish people and Japanese have high IQ’s
However i believe the Japanese are just practical.
I have heard that it’s in the Japanese language which has been attributed to a buddhist who purposefully tried to take contexts of self and leave notions of a doer out, to focus on results.
I’m not sure if it worked out over there.
But i have heard this hinders the individual aspect urge of being.
Here in America at work here is a lot of political posturing and the person executing the result is of more import than the result. So a good solution offered by some one will be cut down in order to make a maneuver or if the solution can be stolen then it will. which is the better case .

“ This stuff isn't done in order to gain illumination ... it's done to gain control of one's dork, so that it doesn't act up when "illumination" comes along. “

The Japanese are considered to be a shame culture so when the dork acts up they might gut it.

As for the Nordic my favorite story illustration I have heard is that one in the forest noticed another a mile away setting up residency so he started sharpening his axe.

“ You must transcend larval identities of race. culture and nationality “


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25/05/2020 7:33 pm  

@ignant666 I am working on a project about Kohoutek, Starseed, and Heflin's similar book. I have a copy of The Serpent and The Dove if anyone is interested in reading it. I have found some dependencies in the accounts of how these books were published however, so if anyone has additional information, especially about the involvement of Level Press with Starseed, I would appreciate it!


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25/05/2020 10:51 pm  
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if anyone has additional information, especially about the involvement of Level Press with Starseed, I would appreciate it!

I am unhappy to report that I, and my vast intergalactic network, am/are unable to provide any links or data regarding your search terms, but I/we are not connected directly to The Borg, so I/we don't know everything.

Ignant is more skillful at using Borg technology and I/we, so your quest being directed towards him are warranted.

I need more data on this Starseed stuff. Although I am retired, I maintain a pro bono patient who  claims Starseed status. Since she actually attained to Sirius Empowerment Level 4, her capacity is not to be discounted. Like Alfred Webre, she was abducted. She refused an implant and her life has been shattered ever since. She requires  medication, which she regularly ditches in favor of feeling alive ... and then quickly falls over the edge and terrible things start happening in real daily life.

In a similar file, I have another case where a "psychic" refusal resulted in a fragmenting persona. I wonder what has really been refused, back there in their core(s) behind the superficial screenplay?

In any case, I see that you are poking around in deep mysteries on the physical plane, overshadowed by theoretical or really-real events on the "other side." How delightful. Count your bullets before you go in.

 


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26/05/2020 3:02 am  

@LleeHeflin has not been around these parts much lately, but is still a member here, so maybe this will evoke him to visible appearance.

His books were among my faves as an early '70s Thelemite teenager; hope he is still among us.

https://www.lashtal.com/members/lleeheflin/


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26/05/2020 11:03 pm  

@ignant666 Thank you- I actually did a great interview with Llee already, but unfortunately he doesn't remember anything about the release of his book, and that's where the contradiction comes in. He remembers refusing to publish Starseed, yet I can find copies of it published by Level Press. I'm hoping I can find someone who remembers a bit more about what happened or what Llee might have written about it in his newsletter at the time. I'm sure it's a fascinating story.


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27/05/2020 5:16 am  
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... unfortunately he doesn't remember anything about the release of his book, and that's where the contradiction comes in.

Following the extravaganza ley line from eLGMOR through Alfred Webre, we now announce a new mystery to be solved.

 


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01/06/2020 6:08 am  
Posted by: @ldov6 I actually did a great interview with Llee already

Interesting stuff @Idov6 - is this interview available online for reading?


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09/06/2020 5:12 pm  

@charlesvdl The interview is part of a podcast series about the comet Kohoutek that will be released in August. I will try to remember to post in this thread when it is available.


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09/06/2020 5:21 pm  

I look forward to this, especially if there is a transcript i can read instead of having to listen to the thing. As i said above, Kohoutek was a very big deal at the time in esoteric/occult/metaphysical circles.

After it fizzled, i never heard it mentioned again anywhere until david/Dom became a Leary/SMI2LE enthusiast a few years back.

(Why can't we have superscripts anymore? When i composed this post, and now when i go to edit, the "2" after the "I" is a superscript, but it doesn't show up that way on the post.)


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09/06/2020 8:19 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

Kohoutek was a very big deal at the time

It must be a universal principle. If a comet appears, or certain planets line up, or certain numbers illumine the daily calendar (11:11 was a big flop), or zeros pop up (2000), then the loosely-connected folks connect the visible dots with the invisible (occuly) dots and predict ...

The End of the World - The New Age - The Sun will go Out
(Nobody ever warns about the Sun exploding)

But nothing of the sort ever happens. The folks say, "O, Well," and move on to the next catastrophe.

Of course, the catastrophe is already in motion, and it plays out daily in the news and in our subtle observations ...

The Destruction of Civilization
(Decline of the Roman Empire for example)

But this (current) one is so slow that we have time to adjust and get our bunker/cave/island/fort in order.

However, there is one pending aberration that seems to be coming true, even as we post and hide in our isolation units ...

Polar Switch
+ ~ -

The Scientists, in their 5th ray studies, have determined that Earth's magnetic field has weakened significantly. The magnetic North Pole is now somewhere over Siberia, and the magnetic South Pole is SPLIT with two poles, one in southern, chilly, South America, and the other just west of the tip of Africa. I cannot determine if this affects compasses, or airplane navigation, or whether it's more subtle than that.

Anyway, the Scientists say a Polar Switch (pos to neg, neg to pos) takes place here every 1000,000 to 250,000 years. Occult Nut-jobs (5th ray lunatics, 5.6) and Survivalists (3rd ray, 3.7) predict the Earth's crust spinning wildly, on top of the molten core, with earthquakes and tidal waves. Sort of an Atlantis syndrome.

While the Scientists say a pole reversal may be imminent, they calm our distress by noting that this has happened a lot in the past, and geographical relocation (which also happens) is not necessarily linked to such polarity switching.

For references, there are several yourBorgTube videos that show moving pictures, and many websites that explain in detail what I have summarized above. Here's a starter ...

https://phys.org/news/2020-05-swarm-probes-weakening-earth-magnetic.html

Now here's my "esoteric" take on this phenomenon, which must be interpreted as a particular dealing of God, or at least him in his Atma phase, with my Soul, and thus yours, because we're all in this together: Let us number the Pylons ...

1. Earth's Mag field weakens, which is normal if the Poles are approaching switchover. At some point, the difference between + and - will equal Zero(0). This will be the switchover point. People will cry out, "The New Age!" or "The Beast!" or something.

2. The Magnetosphere protects us, plus the flowers and animals, from cosmic rays, which are gamma in nature and thus destructive of things like human brain cells. As the mag field weakens, more cosmic love rays get through the mag(ical) circle. People start getting serious medical problems that seem to never be diagnosed as to what caused the flare up, and then the problem goes away.

Note: The person ends up with a pretty clear picture of where/what their weakest internal component is. Because that's where they've been hit.

Some people experience mental/emotional disturbances. Enough said.

3. The "more sensitive" people get hit first. They are the "front lines" of defense against the encroachment of "cosmic evil" (macrocosmic duality). They stagger. They experience "higher states" of consciousness. Then the recover. I do not know (yet) of a single person in this category who got hit, fell down, yet failed to stand up again.

4. The first wave hit on or about July 17, 2018, according to my Record. A hundred years from now, posters on LAShTAL can debate the validity of RTC's books and argue vehemently, with potty-mouths, about how Shiva faked his dates, and how every initiate he immediately contacted showed signs of serious medical distress, and how they all got better.

5. Some advanced people, those who were not "sensitive" enough to take a hit on the first wave (because they were in the "second lines") have subsequently seen their doctor or nearby Emergency Room. This is all in reference to times before the pandemic. Anyone who has not taken a hit in the mental or physical zone potentially has that to look forward to.

6. As the magnetosphere weakens, the ionosphere gets weird and radio communications can get disrupted. Essentially, I'm describing the mag field as synonymous with the Van Allen Radiation Belts at the outer periphery (80,000 miles). This would also include near space satellites and sat techs are currently watching the magnetosphere in relation to minor disturbances in communications. The sat grid has not fallen (yet). The sky is not filling (yet).

7. The split in the mag sphere apparently happened (as a crack, or at least as a localized weakening) a few years ago (6?, 8?), due to an unusually strong plasma stream accurately aimed at Earth in a solar flare, and that's when the Schumann Resonances started squawking loudly.

8. We, all of us, are now being subjected to an increased magnetic-electrical fluxuation that comes in like waves. The overall wavespell can be most easily tracked on a daily basis via the Schumann Resonances, the sensors of which are located in Russia, so conspiracionalists can decide if they're faking the data.

https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/

9. This will all get stronger. As the amplitude of the Resonances gets stronger, many people (that I know) are adapting and medical conditions in general seem to actually be improving.

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10/06/2020 3:38 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

As i said above, Kohoutek was a very big deal at the time in esoteric/occult/metaphysical circles.

However, surprisingly there were no known "Heavens Gate"-type shenanigans as with the Hale-Bopp phenomenon here, though...

I wonder if A.C. ever commented anything significant about the return of Halley's Comet, or similar?

Nanoo, nanoo

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10/06/2020 4:08 am  
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However, surprisingly there were no known ...

I was barely aware of any comet because I din't care about them, and I thought it was silly to make an "event" out of such astro visitations.

However, I was called to K.'.s attention by The Infamous Doctor A, who set up a telescope and communed with it every morning before sunrise. He brought photos of it taken through his telly. His eyes would get big and round, as they often did when he was pontificating, and he would utter dire predictions. The problem was, he made no specific predictions about anything ... except the grand significance of its appearance.


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10/06/2020 11:54 am  

Like I said it sounds like a total diversion from his intellectual work.  What was he thinking? 

 

I'm more interested in the meteor that hit Russia; 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRrdSwhQhY0

 

I doubt that insurance companies cover things like that. 

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10/06/2020 1:59 pm  
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However, surprisingly there were no known ...

I was barely aware of any comet because I din't care about them, and I thought it was silly to make an "event" out of such astro visitations.

Yes, that must be because you're so sensible.

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Posted by: @ignant666

As i said above, Kohoutek was a very big deal at the time in esoteric/occult/metaphysical circles.

However, surprisingly there were no known "Heavens Gate"-type shenanigans as with the Hale-Bopp phenomenon here, though...

I wonder if A.C. ever commented anything significant about the return of Halley's Comet, or similar?

Nanoo, nanoo

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Damnit, James,

 

You beat me to it.

 

Hail Bop!

 

The big bopper. . 

 

 


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11/06/2020 2:23 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Which part of this do you not think is loopy and delusional?

Posted by: @dom

The goal of evolution is to produce nervous systems capable of communicating with and returning to the Galactic Network

Much of what is described in the original "Starseed Transmission" (SST)(Leary, et al) follows the same logic as found in my detailed explanation of potential polarity switch, above, which has already found itself in heaven, waiting to be incarnated as an appendix, or a chapter, in some revelation beyond reason to come. The Hair and I are racing towards an improbable, probably impossible, future, soon, now, so that makes it inevitable.

At some level or another.

But then some of it (the SST) didn't ring true.

Do not mix the planes.

Tim Leary came out of prison, and I watched (on TV and in The Free Press). He phased through some computer stuff, virtual reality attempts and such. I could never get it to work. Computers in the 80s were as kranky as a Model T truck.

But then he moved into extravacation. That is: "making empty by moving out." Somehow his ascent to cosmic (galactic) consciousness, which is merely a form of samadhi, got translated into "build the arks and get the hell out of Earth-town."

If we are to believe the dailee paypur, Elon Musk is infected with this same inspiration. He is said to fear Artificial Intelligence, and thinks it will grow and kill us, or control us. But he has built Leary's ships, and he's in position to go somewhere (else).

Leary said he was continuing Crowley's work. Musk obviously is continuing Leary's work. By some strange, but fully visible, link, Musk is carrying on Crowley's work, and it frightens me.

I am too old to go into extended space trips. You younger folks will have to take Thelema to Mars.

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11/06/2020 1:29 pm  
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" Somehow his ascent to cosmic (galactic) consciousness, which is merely a form of samadhi, got translated into "build the arks and get the hell out of Earth-town."

 

??

Translated by him and Wilson number 2. 

 

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11/06/2020 5:22 pm  
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??

Translated by him and Wilson number 2. 

Sorry. No understand how "translated by" links to advocating escape. Also poorly understood is "Wilson number 2." Is this a person, a clone or a document?

 


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11/06/2020 11:35 pm  
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Posted by: @dom

??

Translated by him and Wilson number 2. 

Sorry. No understand how "translated by" links to advocating escape. Also poorly understood is "Wilson number 2." Is this a person, a clone or a document?

 

You think that Leary wanted to 'escape' on an O'Neill space station?  Maybe the rush to get it all going now was one of his lesser moments. 

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11/06/2020 11:41 pm  

You think this is an answer?

WTF are you on about, david? No one can understand these posts, please be clearer.


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12/06/2020 12:43 am  
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You think this is an answer?

WTF are you on about, david? No one can understand these posts, please be clearer.

I'm assuming people here are familiar with Leary's work and ideas.   Gerry O'Neill was a scientist who designed plans for space-station colonies, Leary was a fan and cited him as kindred spirit.   Leary believed that astronauts who have, of course left the planetary G-Force pull are turning on 'the same brain-circuits' as someone who is high on marijuana.  

 

The 'Wilson number 1' is Colin, 'number 2' is Robert Anton.    

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12/06/2020 2:02 am  
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You think that Leary wanted to 'escape' on an O'Neill space station?

Sorry. No understanding of O'Neill. But I did watch Leary on some CD/DVD thing where he was advocating building technology to get away from gravity and other perils of Earth.

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WTF are you on about, david?

It must be the drugs. Please call a doctor or the police.

Posted by: @dom

I'm assuming people here are familiar with Leary's work and ideas.

Bad assumption. Just because you have absorbed some of his ideas doesn't mean other people who are interested in Crowley would necessarily be a Leary scholar.

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The 'Wilson number 1' is Colin, 'number 2' is Robert Anton. 

Is this a Wikipedia designation, or did you find it in a dictionary? Oh, wait! Don't tell me you invented this cipher yourself (and expect others to know what it means?

 


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Posted by: @shiva

Oh, wait! Don't tell me you invented this cipher yourself (and expect others to know what it means?

That's because

Posted by: @dom

I'm assuming people here are familiar with [my work] and ideas. 

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Posted by: @shiva

I am too old to go into extended space trips. You younger folks will have to take Thelema to Mars.

Sign me up!

Can call it the secret secret Space Force. 

But by the time that happens I will probably be too old too.  Almost 40 already.  *everyone laughs* that's not old. 


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13/06/2020 2:23 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

That's because

Posted by: @dom

I'm assuming people here are familiar with [my work] and ideas. 

I always thought #1 and #2 referred to bodily functions. I don't think there is a living person who is familiar with Dom's "ideas." He puts them forward, continuously, and the most common reply is, "WTF?" Then, after really long posts that cite minute details, he will start scribbling short, undecipherable notes.

Dom: perhaps you can issue a one-page epistle delineating your [work and] ideas?

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Almost 40 already.  *everyone laughs* that's not old. 

It's half-way through the average expected lifespan in the USA. I think "old" gets initiated at 41.

 


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It is time for life on Earth to leave the planetary womb and learn to walk through the stars.
Life was seeded on your planet billions of years ago by nucleotide templates which contained the blueprint for gradual evolution through a sequence of biomechanical stages.
The goal of evolution is to produce nervous systems capable of communicating with and returning to the Galactic Network where we, your interstellar parents, await you.
Life on planet Earth has now reached this halfway point, established itself, and evolved through larval mutations and metamorphoses to the seven brain stages.
At this time the voyage home is possible.
Assemble the most intelligent, advanced, courageous of your species, divided equally between men and women. Let every race, nationality, and religion be represented.
You are about to discover the key to immortality in the chemical structure of the genetic code, within which you will find the scripture of life. The time has come for you to accept the responsibility of immortality. It is not necessary for you to die.
You will discover the key to enhanced intelligence within the chemistry of the nervous system. Certain chemicals, used wisely, will enable your nervous system to decipher the genetic code.
All life on your planet is a unity. All life must come home.
Total freedom, responsibility and interspecies harmony will make the voyage possible. You must transcend larval identities of race. culture and nationality. Your only allegiance is to life. The only way you will survive is to make the voyage home.
The Japanese people are the most advanced race on your planet and will give protection to the company.
We are sending a comet to your solar system as a sign that the time has come to look to the stars.
When you arrive back home you will be given new instructions and powers. Your sperm ship is the flower of terrestrial life. As soon as the company is formed and the voyage begun, war, poverty, hatred, fear will disappear from your planet and the most ancient prophecies and celestial visions will be realize.
Mutate!
Come home in glory.
Later that year, Comet Kohoutek (as predicted) arrived in the solar system and spaced out into the sun. 

It's comical isn't it?  Just confirmation bias on a scale to match nutbar Joseph Smith. 

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13/06/2020 5:48 pm  
Posted by: @dom

It's comical isn't it?

I read it twice and neither chuckled nor laughed.

Posted by: @dom

Just confirmation bias on a scale to match nutbar Joseph Smith. 

It is what is called a "channeled" doc. You know, like Liberal AL The Secret Doctrine, I AM The Book of Life, Libers LXV et VII, Liber B, The Book of Life and Death, and the pieces [Pisces] of The Bible before the Nice Niceans rearranged it and touched up the grammar (overlooking Elohim - haha).

Such documents are meant to be inspirational, or philosophical, or writ in some other abstract grimoire/grammar that is not practically applicable to life in the here-and-now on dense Earth.

Leary actually took this Transmission and used it to guide himself through his final external phase wherein he advocated extra-planetary travel.

We went and listened to Leary during this phase. The first thing I noted was that "they" had broken The High Priest of LSD. He radiated a cynical, sarcastic tone of disapproval. As we were leaving, my wife said, "That was pretty sad, wasn't iy?"

Posted by: @dom quoting Starseed ...

Assemble the most intelligent, advanced, courageous of your species ... You are about to discover the key to immortality in the chemical structure of the genetic code, within which you will find the scripture of life.

This part implies a "chosen" few, which is common to all esoteric concepts. With the exception that Bodhisattvas will hang around until even the common (exoteric) people are redeemed. Otherwise, most of the other folks want to Get Out of Dodge, and they want to take their friends with them.

As applied to the persona, the dense vehicle, this is known as Escapism. The Lesser Vehicle of Buddhism is devoted to Getting Out of Dodge. The Great Vehicle of Buddhism involves Getting Out, but coming back to help others Get out.

I guess it's too bad for their cozy relatives, but nobody's going Home in a multi-person vehicle. It is not widely understood that Initiation through the early stages is a group event. At Tiphareth, the elevators are so small that only one person can fit. The elevator takes that one person up to the people part of the cosmic rocket, which only holds one person.

If that one person has a successful rocket ride out, and a clean re-entry, then they start to organize rocket rides that take groups of people. This might work in the external realm of SpaceX, and in the formation of an Outer Order, but it won't work in one's visitation to the Interior.

I never heard that Leary or his associates (the "most intelligent, advanced, courageous of your species") found the genetic code of immortality. Crowley found it in reproductive fluid admixtures, Starseed suggested DNA. The Taoists designed several practices to attain immortality. Everybody wants to live forever. However, all these people are dead, so we know the "immortality" factor resides on some "higher" level than Terra Firma.

I don't necessarily detect the confirmation bias, because no practical, bottom-line application was presented that could be confirmed as true by one's predetermined bias.

Nutbar Smith was rather successful. Utah, which is our neighbor, is filled with massive silos of grain and other mass storage devices. They live close to nature, on farms, and they have built their own culture that is provisioned against the fall of civilization. It is a survivalist, religious culture. When Frater Taurus visted all over Utah, thinking to resettle there, he was constantly confronted with a stone-wall response reserved for outsiders. This was so strong, everywhere he went, that he abandoned Utah as a possible homeplace.

 


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14/06/2020 11:59 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

 

It is what is called a "channeled" doc. You know, like Liberal AL The Secret Doctrine, I AM The Book of Life, Libers LXV et VII, Liber B, The Book of Life and Death, and the pieces [Pisces] of The Bible before the Nice Niceans rearranged it and touched up the grammar (overlooking Elohim - haha).

 

Really?  Who can produce such 'inspirational documents', the likes of AC or Nema?  

Leary "did the work" like AC?  Whether he fully diarized his yoga work I don't know.   

 

I think he could get into a full lotus-position at will.  Apart from popping pills or tabs whatever, what other diarized work did he do?   I don't think he worked through Liber E or Liber O.   

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Posted by: @dom

Who can produce such 'inspirational documents', the likes of AC or Nema? 

Some might put forward Kenneth Grant (Wisdom of Slba, Book of the Spider)?  Perhaps Jack Parsons (Liber 49, Book of Babalon)?  Some might even propose Mr Beck, the guy who penned The Book of Perfection ...

(Do I need to go on?)

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15/06/2020 2:56 am  
Posted by: @dom

 I don't think he worked through Liber E or Liber O.

I hate to be the one to break this unto you, but lots'a people, everywhere, undergo the path in ways that are not necessarily described by Crowley, or are not approved by the A.'.A.'.. I wonder why we have to keep pointing this out. There are other forms of the great work than those described in the Liberarium.

We can shoot holes in Leary's credentials, or his capacities, but he did hold the initiation of a new age in general mass consciousness in his hands right at the time it emerged. He was lucky they did not kill him.

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Do I need to go on?

Please don't. You're just buying in to a hero worship struggle

 

 


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Posted by: @shiva

Starseed suggested DNA. The Taoists designed several practices to attain immortality. Everybody wants to live forever. However, all these people are dead, so we know the "immortality" factor resides on some "higher" level than Terra Firma.

I don't necessarily detect the confirmation bias, because no practical, bottom-line application was presented that could be confirmed as true by one's predetermined bias.

Nutbar Smith was rather successful. Utah, which is our neighbor, is filled with massive silos of grain and other mass storage devices. They live close to nature, on farms, and they have built their own culture that is provisioned against the fall of civilization. It is a survivalist, religious culture. When Frater Taurus visted all over Utah, thinking to resettle there, he was constantly confronted with a stone-wall response reserved for outsiders. This was so strong, everywhere he went, that he abandoned Utah as a possible homeplace.

 

Not to mention, as I am sure you are aware of the Mormon obsession with genetics/DNA.

They have the largest DNA database in the world, and I think even own some companies like 23 and Me (sic?) etc.

They are trying to ostensibly draw the line from Jesus to the whites in the USA. If I recall correctly. 

AND what muddies the waters even further is what I just recalled is the 'white man's' US GOV data point collection hub, the so-called (name redacted) Utah Data Center:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

 


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The reason for the Mormons' genealogy obsession is that anyone not baptized as a Mormon will burn in hell forever, and they believe post-death Temple rites are efficacious.

So they spend a lot of time doing posthumous baptism of their own, and other peoples,' ancestors. And also Temple-sealing all the marriages of all their ancestors, so that they are not descendants of bastards. This is one of the main religious activities of adult Mormon males.

And you thought Scientologists were weird. Despite, or because of, being batshit crazy, and the special underwear, they have undoubtedly done better at mass appeal than Thelema.

At least as long as you ignore the post-1904 immense decline in Xian belief, the vast changes in sexual mores on most of the planet, notably sexual freedom for men who have sex with men (like AC), the post-1950s worldwide youth culture explosion, the '60s acid explosion, the second one in the '90s, the modern Wiccan and Neo-Pagan movements, Satanism, rock music, other modern forms of popular music, etc etc etc and all the other things you have to ignore to pretend that the "93 Current" is not a thing. Good luck with that.


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Posted by: @xon

That's a severe and specific condemnation for only listing similar received texts.

That's quite correct.  Let the record show that Shiva was guilty of a mixing-up of the mental plane there as there was no indication given whatsoever that I was "buying into" anything.

Not guilty myself,

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Posted by: @xon

That's a severe and specific condemnation for only listing similar received texts.

Since it's all part of the Spiritual Con, then no amount of severity can be condemning enough, and let the specifics fall where they may ... or not.

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Let the record show that Shiva was guilty of a mixing-up of the mental plane there as there was no indication given whatsoever that I was "buying into" anything.

"Buying into" involves typing anything in response. "Pretending to buy in," as in asking rhetorical questions, is a form of gotcha fraud trickery illusion, so we won't go there.

You'll have to (have to, dammit) forgive me. Sometimes the plains are so flat and never-ending that I  confuse humour with honour, honesty with harlequinery, comets with coronas, and other things that look so similar that I cannot differentiate ("make a difference") between and one thing and all those other things.

Posted by: @jamiejbarter

Not guilty myself,

Tell it to the guy sitting on the left hand of IHVH, I AM himself, who will hear your case and pass a final judgment. If you feel you will not get a fair hearing, we can change the venue to the Hall of Maat, in the Tuat circuit, Justice Asar presiding.

 


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Posted by: @shiva

it's all part of the Spiritual Con, then no amount of severity can be condemning enough

Whether by nature of the investigator and investigation a discovery of a Spiritual Con or Spiritual Truth these texts are part of the legacy of AC. Recognition in response to a question related to their existence shouldn't be condemned.  While it seems you're concerned about possible dogma and schisms from individuals getting lost in an illusion that's no reason to suppress knowledge of the texts or condemn researchers.


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19/06/2020 10:17 pm  
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"Buying into" involves typing anything in response. "Pretending to buy in," as in asking rhetorical questions, is a form of gotcha fraud trickery illusion, so we won't go there.

You'll have to (have to, dammit) forgive me. Sometimes the plains are so flat and never-ending that I  confuse humour with honour, honesty with harlequinery, comets with coronas, and other things that look so similar that I cannot differentiate ("make a difference") between and one thing and all those other things.

If I was to respond by saying 'this strikes me as being a crock' you would probably affect not to understand what I was talking (=writing) about, or pretend not to know what 'crock' might mean, or some other tactical distraction along those lines.  So I won't.

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Tell it to the guy sitting on the left hand of IHVH, I AM himself, who will hear your case and pass a final judgment. If you feel you will not get a fair hearing, we can change the venue to the Hall of Maat, in the Tuat circuit,

Ditto to the above (Crock Part II).  

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Justice Asar presiding.

"Who's to doom, when the judge himself is dragged before the bar?" - Hermann Melville

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20/06/2020 12:24 am  
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shouldn't

Thou shalt not should on thyself, or others.

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'this strikes me as being a crock'

Of course it is.

 


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20/06/2020 1:52 am  
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Posted by: @jamiejbarter

'this strikes me as being a crock'

Of course it is.


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20/06/2020 2:35 am  

Now that's a real croc[k].

Just exactly who is he, and why does he get to sit on the seat in the east, or any other direction, when these reptilian things were generally considered bad dudes?

Oh, yeah, I know there was/is a temple at crocodilopolis, or wherever that chamber of the Tuat is located, and that some folks revered the gnarly things. I guess I answered my own question, but do you have any specs on this handsome fellow?

 


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@shiva

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek

I don't know much about him, just enough for that low effort post. 😊 

 


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