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19/07/2020 4:27 am  
Posted by: @shiva

Keep your eye out for the... pretender.

Get it right.

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Or maybe to the bull already in the china shop the customer who just walked in seems like the bull. 😛

That would explain the Bulls on Parade.


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25/07/2020 8:57 am  

It is my understanding that certain topics may soon be posted on this thread. If this comes to pass, then I have a couple basic questions to be answered, if possible, as seems appropriate at the proper time.

1.There are terms in this paradigm that need translation. Is the Grue a cosmic entity, an alien, a demon, a planetary "shadow" (""dweller"), or what?

2. Is V'ger an angel, a thoughtform, an entity, or what?

(If these two terms can be fitted into (more or less) Thelemic, or Jungian, or some framework with which we are familiar, then the revelation will proceed more smoothly)

3. Since Xon said he would take these matters to Starseed, I suspect he might boycott the Vger thread. So I will also post this, my list, on Starseed as well.

 


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25/07/2020 9:44 am  

Such a polite inquiry would have served well a month ago when this thread was flying along and I was still willing to talk about occultism on this site.

The other thread is interesting in that it shows how much was missed. So many inconsequentials given too much prominence.

No matter now. The connection with @kidneyhawk was finally made. How that proceeds is what is important and that can take place somewhere else. It doesn't matter if you're all left hanging now. Your(plural and referring to those on the outside) comprehension or involvement was never the point and considering how that other thread looks that is a good thing.

In the Image of a Sixfold Star that flameth across the Vault inane, let me re-veil Thy perfections.


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25/07/2020 12:11 pm  

Xon has no avatar or signature and his old posts are now showing his name as Anon, I am lost in darkness without a torch to guide me, has he left the building? 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 12:17 pm  

Sadly, i think so. It will never be the same again.


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25/07/2020 12:41 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

Sadly, i think so. It will never be the same again.

...there will be more nuts, yea, there will be more to come.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 12:59 pm  

Fair enough, but he was by far the craziest person i can remember ever, and i lurked for ages before i started posting 14 years ago.

And really just mean-spirited, which is odd for such a supporter of Marianne Williamson's "politics of love", and upends all my stereotypes of Canadians. I mean, Alrah did not like me one bit, for similar reasons, but she didn't curse my head to be possessed by an Oz character.

I do give him points for originality, with that baroque curse for example, and his whole "pastel '90s teenage mall-girl" aesthetic- most "Satanists" avoid "girly" things. The "pastel '90s teenage mall-girl" aesthetic is a weird combo with the misogyny, though. Basically, the kid had more issues than Life magazine.

I honestly will miss him (sort of)- he was just such a totally epic freak.


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25/07/2020 1:03 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

Fair enough, but he was by far the craziest person i can remember ever, and i lurked for ages before i started posting 14 years ago.

And really just mean-spirited, which is odd for such a supporter of Marianne Williamson's "politics of love", and upends all my stereotypes of Canadians. I mean, Alrah did not like me one bit, for similar reasons, but she didn't curse my head to be possessed by an Oz character.

 

I liked her, I thought the only problem you had with her was the secret British army sonic-weapon, what else caused a rift as you too had similar political views and both hate the OTO establishment? 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 1:11 pm  

I would make fun of her occult pretensions, as i tend to do. Certainly not a blood-feud like Mal/Nox/Xon, or S.'.H.'. Fra. Dr. Los 8=3 PhD. The Phallus Of A Goat was very often nasty, but within the guidelines, and never placed a curse on my head (of course he doesn't believe in curses, which would tend to limit cursing folks). And i would never call him "crazy", just mistaken and egotistical.

I don't even recall Alrah as having political views, but as i recall she got banned (the last time she got banned) for some transphobic post (or at least a post in a thread about trans issues, that Paul deleted before i read it).

I generally don't like crazy people in person, they make me nervous, and the same is true here minus the nervousness since i am not in the same place as them. The only crazy person i can recall liking here is Peg/Pegasus/Margaret.


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25/07/2020 1:15 pm  
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I would make fun of her occult pretensions, as i tend to do. Certainly not a blood-feud like Mal/Nox/Xon, or S.'.H.'. Fra. Dr. Los 8=3 PhD. The Phallus Of A Goat was very often nasty, but within the guidelines, and never placed a curse on my head (of course he doesn't believe in curses, which would tend to limit cursing folks). And i would never call him "crazy", just mistaken and egotistical.

I don't even recall Alrah as having political views, but as i recall she got banned (the last time she got banned) for some transphobic post (or at least a post in a thread about trans issues, that Paul deleted).

Yeah she was a leftist activist I believe in her younger days.  The transphobic thing was probably all just a misunderstanding but alas that was all in the past.   Occult pretensions, oh I see, I don't know I missed all those threads. 

 

Ah yes, Pegasus and her meth endorsement as a cure for the pandemic panic.   

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 1:20 pm  

Alrah's given up on forums after getting banned from here, and the fruitcake factory (which has gone almost totally dead), and reddit thelema, and probably every other occult forum on earth.

She now publishes books about her new Qabala, which you can find on amazon. She calls herself "BethSheba Ashe" these days:

http://bethshebaashe.com/


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25/07/2020 1:36 pm  
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the fruitcake factory

I want to know what this is now. 😶 


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25/07/2020 1:41 pm  
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the fruitcake factory

I want to know what this is now. 😶 

It's Frater Jim Eshelman's (lawyer and author of occult books and head of some Thelemic Order) Thelema forum.  http://www.heruraha.net/

 

Here's Jim lecturing about advancing up the A'A' grades;

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T96_AOYwiss

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 1:48 pm  

We used to have a Comrade here who is known to men as S.'.H.'. Fra. Dr. Los 8=3 PhD. He is a disciple of Erwin Hessle (or maybe is Erwin Hessle), and "Skeptical Thelema". He likes to mock those who believe in any non-material things as superstitious believers in "goblins and spacemen", and has many other rhetorical tics and catchphrases. You can catch his act over at reddit thelema, where he posts as "Los 8=3".

Anyway, The Phallus Of A Goat used to call the forum at http://heruraha.net/ "the fruitcake factory". Unlike lashtal, it is/was very much both an occult and a teaching site, being the official site of Jim Eshelman's A.'. A.'. lineage and the associated Temple of Thelema (but most of it open to the public). It's pretty dead these days, but used to be very lively, and also had a lot of overlap of membership with lashtal, due to the different focus.


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25/07/2020 1:51 pm  
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, being the official site of Jim Eshelman's A.'. A.'. lineage and the associated Temple of Thelema (but most of it open to the public). It's pretty dead these days, but used to be very lively, and also had a lot of overlap of membership with lashtal, due to the different focus.

How much of that Jim Eshelman Youtube lecture can you get through? 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 1:59 pm  

Watched a few minutes to see if there is something glaringly awful. Seemed inoffensive enough.

Never saw a picture of him before, could not see his eyes well enough to make any judgements. Did not realize he was a dirty hippie with a pony tail- yuck!

He writes well and at least derives his lineage through Wolfe and not the non-A.'. A.'. initiate Motta, unlike some lizard-eyed, chinless folks i will not name. But he needs a haircut.


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25/07/2020 7:11 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

used to call the forum at http://heruraha.net/ "the fruitcake factory"

I see, so it was just that guy's name for that site, I thought maybe there was some mysterious wacky site out there I hadn't discovered. I've browsed heruraha a few times and it didn't seem any more crazy than any other place.


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25/07/2020 7:16 pm  
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I see, so it was just that guy's name for that site, I though maybe there was some mysterious wacky site out there I hadn't discovered. I've browsed heruraha a few times and it didn't seem any more crazy than any other place.

It's mentioned on Dr Los Phd 8=3's blog.  Various 'Oath of the Abyss' contests between titanic ego nutbars, a guy who saw a demon shoot a gun at him, a well-gone druggie who spoke in the style of Yoda from Star Wars because he had seen the future and that's how the future human species speaks and last but not least a woman (with absolutely no command of the English language....and she was American)  who ensured that sex was mentioned in every post she made ....and she made a lot.....  yeah usual stuff.  I think the name was given to the site by our aloof  8=3 Adept because he was so much more educated than most of the posters....especially in Philosophy.  He bragged in his blog about being banned from the site if I recall correctly.  

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 7:37 pm  

I think The Great And Mighty Los' reasoning was "fruitcake" = "'woo-woo', 'spacemen', 'goblins', occultism, etc.", and being a teaching site, Jim was manufacturing the stuff, thus "factory".

One of his better lines, actually (i say this as someone who lurked there (never posted) for years, and read tons of good stuff, along with the nutty "mages" david mentions, who now mostly populate the reddit occult groups (read reddit demonology, or demon worship ,or whatever, for a laugh)).

And do drive-bys here of course. Or try to.


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25/07/2020 8:47 pm  

It doesn't matter if you're all left hanging now.

[gasp][choke] I can't breathe ...!

Oh, okay, thank you for keeping us informed. It sounds like you ank KH (not Koot Hoomi) will be going off into some occult realm.

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I generally don't like crazy people in person, they make me nervous, and the same is true here minus the nervousness since i am not in the same place as them.

This is true because loosened screws are contagious. This is a known phenomenon in psychology. If it spreads, it is known as "mass hysteria." We recently had one of those here, but it is subdued online due to Internet Restrictions.

By the way, how does it feel (I ask any of you) to be Expelled? You should should note all expellations in your Metaphysical Curriculum Vitae, because you have not really attained any high degree until you have been expelled from some known lineage.

Your exclusion from the future is proof positive of your (anyone's) accomplishment, and it was a wide-ranging blessing for anyone due to its wide-ranging blanket or coverage.

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She calls herself "BethSheba Ashe" these days

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"Bethsheba is 46 years old and was born in Newcastle ‎upon Tyne, in the UK. She currently lives an ‎hour outside of New York City and she has previously lived in Spain. Her other ‎works include the screenplay ‘Two Sun ‎Sunday’ (2012) and several non-fiction titles such as ‘Chariot’ (2016), ‎a book that discloses the secret of the ‎Jewish Merkabah and teaches people ‎how to use it with the Torah; and ‘The ‎Secret Temple of Aleister Crowley’ (2014), ‎which is an analysis of how the occult ‎magician employed the Merkabah within ‎his own magical order of the A.’.A.’."

She and I corresponded even after she was banished from LAShTAL. She was building a Babalon site/forum. Your link led to the apparent manifestation of that Babalon site, as transformed.

She watched my video, The Sarcophagus of Nun (2 hrs), with her grandparents as she had no dvd-player of her own. Her grandmother, halfway in (at 1-hour),  said, "I don't think I believe this." That was our last comm that I remember.

These people perform a valuable service. They give living, real-time proof of various aberrations at various levels, which are usually fairly hi-ranking. Even lurkers will have no problem identifying the grade/level, because the example usually gives or names it, or at least clearly implies such a thing.

The true test of any reader's skill is how accurately they can detect the example's true, real-time grade level.

This is not necessarily done through mental analysis, although it could be done that way, but by way of a woo-way passive impression. This is not necessary, but is recommended for people who think someday they will be teaching others and therefore need exposure to everything that can go wrong with students.

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I want to know what this is now.

It is an occult metaphor that describes a place where crazy people are manufactured or driven insane.

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he needs a haircut.

Real men shave their heads and repeat mantras.

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I thought maybe there was some mysterious wacky site out there I hadn't discovered. I've browsed heruraha a few times and it didn't seem any more crazy than any other place.

It is a formal Teaching Site and is run like I ran my classrooms. So I left because I don't have to put up with that kind of crap ... especially when it falls into "secrecy." It is "more crazy" because it is "more restrictive." More "strict." Jim lost any adoration of sainthood from me over a petty A.'.A.'. "secrecy" issue ... the A.'.A.'. being opposed to secrecy. A paradox, with righteous indignational demeanor.

 


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25/07/2020 9:25 pm  
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Bethsheba is 46 years old and was born in Newcastle ‎upon Tyne, in the UK. She currently lives an ‎hour outside of New York City

Holy feces, that means she potentially lives near me (could be in Jersey or other places, of course)- missed that! I will actually reach out to her to ask, as i never actually disliked her, just though she was too full of herself, and if we're neighbors... the mind boggles.


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26/07/2020 1:25 am  
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I

 

She and I corresponded even after she was banished from LAShTAL. She was building a Babalon site/forum. Your link led to the apparent manifestation of that Babalon site, as transformed.

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These people perform a valuable service. They give living, real-time proof of various aberrations at various levels, which are usually fairly hi-ranking. Even lurkers will have no problem identifying the grade/level, because the example usually gives or names it, or at least clearly implies such a thing.

The true test of any reader's skill is how accurately they can detect the example's true, real-time grade level.

This is not necessarily done through mental analysis, although it could be done that way, but by way of a woo-way passive impression. This is not necessary, but is recommended for people who think someday they will be teaching others and therefore need exposure to everything that can go wrong with students.

 

These people, who?  Various aberrations at high ranking what?  That seems a bit indirect, why are we talking grades here with this former poster?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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26/07/2020 4:21 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Holy feces, that means she potentially lives near me

As I understand it, your jurisdiction is all of the North-Eastern USA, except for Vermont. Yeah, if this is not "fake news," she is in your Shire, sire.

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These people, who?  Various aberrations at high ranking what? 

"These people" are essentially to prominent posters you classify in your grading system as "wacko nut-jobs," or some similar distinction of deviation from the true path.

The "grade level detector test" is merely a rule-of-thumb game where a boaster (say Los 8=3) is assessed for his real point of provocation. For example, I would sort of automatically rate all hard-core Skeptical Thelema proponents into the Man of Earth series ... just because they cannot get past the concrete mind.


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26/07/2020 12:15 pm  
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"These people" are essentially to prominent posters you classify in your grading system as "wacko nut-jobs," or some similar distinction of deviation from the true path.

The "grade level detector test" is merely a rule-of-thumb game where a boaster (say Los 8=3) is assessed for his real point of provocation. For example, I would sort of automatically rate all hard-core Skeptical Thelema proponents into the Man of Earth series ... just because they cannot get past the concrete mind.

What's your point about the lady that you corresponded with?  

 

@ignant666

Jim is an expert on what each path of the Tree of Life is and how it affects 'the aspirant' as he moves up the tree, the different energies and tests or what not.  He is also a practicing astrologer, I find it hard to label him as a nutter even though he thinks he levitated after a long asana/yoga session.  The evidence ?  I think he heard a clunk noise and felt like he was landing on his floor and he was bruised.  He is Los's favourite person to hate. 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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26/07/2020 12:24 pm  

The only negative thing i have said about him is that he needs a haircut, which he does. I have considerable respect for the man.


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26/07/2020 9:16 pm  
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What's your point about the lady that you corresponded with?

Her screws were a bit loose, but she was sane enough when the stop spot lights were off and she emailed one-on-one.

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Jim is an expert on what each path of the Tree of Life is and how it affects 'the aspirant' as he moves up the tree ...

Yes, he appears among the many Experts. Become thine your own expert is the rule of the Law.

 


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26/07/2020 9:19 pm  
Posted by: @dom

... He bragged in his blog about being banned from the site if I recall correctly.  

Preserve us all from all the braggers (All the unentertaining ones, anyway.)

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Here's Jim lecturing about advancing up the A'A' grades;

"Nah, listen: you don't want to do it that way - you do it like this!"? (done in the style of Harry Enfield)

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I find it hard to label him as a nutter even though he thinks he levitated after a long asana/yoga session.  The evidence ?  I think he heard a clunk noise and felt like he was landing on his floor and he was bruised.

The evidence appears underwhelming (in its paucity)...

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I think The Great And Mighty Los' reasoning was "fruitcake" = "'woo-woo', 'spacemen', 'goblins', occultism, etc.", and being a teaching site, Jim was manufacturing the stuff, thus "factory".

One of his better lines, actually (i say this as someone who lurked there (never posted) for years, and read tons of good stuff, along with the nutty "mages" david mentions,

I've never done much more than flitted through and read the odd thread there if it happened to "catch my eye", but I'm sure others in addition to myself as well would be genuinely interested in perusing any particularly good ones if you'd care to recommend any?

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Holy feces, that means she potentially lives near me (could be in Jersey or other places, of course)- missed that! I will actually reach out to her to ask, as i never actually disliked her, just though she was too full of herself, and if we're neighbors...

Sounds like this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship!? 

@xon: It doesn't matter if you're all left hanging now.

@shiva: [gasp][choke] I can't breathe ...!  Oh, okay, thank you for keeping us informed.

It doesn't seem as if @xonanon has any philanthropic interest in being the last cow(boy) in the barn himself...?

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By the way, how does it feel (I ask any of you) to be Expelled? You should should note all expellations in your Metaphysical Curriculum Vitae, because you have not really attained any high degree until you have been expelled from some known lineage.

I think I was expelled (or as they put it, excommunicated) from the IOT (Illuminates of Thanateros; Chaos Magic) - it was hard to tell, as the whole process was a bit chaotic in itself.  Which was rather unusual, if not a unique occurrence as first I had only been going through the motions about enquiring as to whether to simply join (at the time, Gerald Suster already being a member and who suggested I might look into it as well. Things did not go very well as far as he was concerned in the end either, though "tha's another story"). 

I don't recall being upset over it - more of a "meh" sensation. 

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It [heruraha] is a formal Teaching Site and is run like I ran my classrooms. So I left because I don't have to put up with that kind of crap ... especially when it falls into "secrecy." It is "more crazy" because it is "more restrictive." More "strict." Jim lost any adoration of sainthood from me over a petty A.'.A.'. "secrecy" issue ... the A.'.A.'. being opposed to secrecy.

This tweaked my curiosity - what was that about, if not too "secret" for you to be able to share?

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27/07/2020 2:03 am  
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It doesn't seem as if @xonanon has any philanthropic interest in being the last cow(boy) in the barn himself...?

On my Father's Ranch there are many cow barns.

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what was that about

A person inquired about The Ritual of the 7 Holy Kings. I replied by posting a section from my book (see below), and telling the inquirer that he could just run the search engine for 7 holy kings and get the whole ritual pdf for free.

The Moderator and Website Chief himself deleted my post and replied in


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27/07/2020 2:56 am  

My VERY LONG POST was cut down to a small ribbon ... and without an "Edit" button to be found (No Edition in Sight).

I am therefore disgusted and will leave this site for Readit-Rong, after denouncing all you stupid and ungrateful dead people who can just reproduce-off and forget that I ever graced your filthy halls of "let's pretend" we are smart.

flashing star

But, before I do that, i will reconstruct the message that got fed to the comet-demon.

Maybe later tonite. Maybe tomorrow.


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The Moderator and Website Chief himself deleted my post and replied in

After noting that animated gifs do not seem to function and flash properly, let's be moving on ...

The Moderator and Website Chief himself deleted my post and replied in
BIG RED BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS
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[test]

 


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... saying that his site would not tolerate the posting of info that ruined the initiatory experience of innocent candidates, and he had deleted my post.

Herewith follows the accursed revelation of the dreaded secret ...

INSERT SECRET QUOTE FROM Inside Solar Lodge

Frater Luna's first visit was to Dr Regardie

"His second visit was actually a series of visits with Louis T. Culling who, with magnanimous openness, freely disclosed all the details of the operation of the IX° to Frater Luna. About three years later, Culling revealed this same material in his book, A Manual of Sex Magick, which was issued by Llewellyn Publications in 1971.

Culling was also in possession of a formal Charter for The Order of the Paladin that had originally derived from Diana Vaughan.1 This Charter had been historically, formally, and sequentially transferred over the years until it came into his name. Culling generously signed it over, transferring the Grand Mastership of The Order of the Paladin into Frater Luna’s name.

Frater Luna soon appeared at Solar Lodge, grinning like the cat that ate the canary, with his Charter and his new Grand Master status. But he also readily agreed to sign it over to the "O.T.O." upon Capricornus’ request.

It should also be noted that Frater Luna was the only Solar Lodge member to ever undergo "Ritual XXVIII - Liber Septem Regum Sanctorum" - The Ceremony of the Seven Holy Kings.

In the official AA Instructions for The Probationer, it is written, "Certain Probationers are admitted after six months or more to Ritual XXVIII." Nothing more was openly disclosed regarding the nature of this ritual. At a quick glance, it appeared as though the bestowing of this rite was a great honor.

However, the ritual document itself essentially declares that it is administered to Probationers who are recalcitrant or otherwise lacking in acceptable progress. It is a formal "last attempt" to encourage an obstinate or lazy candidate to get moving and begin making meaningful headway.

Frater Luna, whose magickal name has been selected here due to its relation to the word lunatic, was indeed obstinate and lacking in meaningful progress. After much arguing and child-like behavior, he was instructed to appear before the "Seven Kings."

The Temple was arranged according to the instructions, namely according to the structure of the Tree of Life with seven altars placed in the positions of the seven lower spheres, and with a throne centrally located "above the abyss" to represent Binah, the eighth sphere. Behind each altar stood a "King," an initiate who temporarily ruled over that specific sphere or level of consciousness.

The candidate (Frater Luna, in this case) was given a full dose of LSD, and of course the Kings and all the other participants had some as well. Luna was then blindfolded and guided sequentially in turn to each altar, where he was lavishly praised by each King for his wonderful progress.

However, moving along with the candidate and standing sequentially next to each King, there was a shadowy figure attired in a black robe. After each round of praise, the dark figure would be identified along with a warning. "But beware of the black shadow at my side, for he shall …" - and the negative aspects of that sphere would be expounded as the candidate was warned not to succumb to their temptation.

After appearing before the Seven Kings, and having received the seven warnings, the candidate symbolically approached the Abyss, into which he was then thrown and allowed to contemplate his misery. (In this case, Frater Luna was locked in a closet).

After seven hours, the candidate was removed from the "Abyss" and placed on the symbolic throne of the "Master of the Temple" with the admonition that his future endeavors should reflect pure, determined progress in order that he might eventually attain to this throne in reality.

Frater Luna was delighted that he had been selected to undertake this symbolic journey. After this event his progress and demeanor did in fact improve.

1 See Devil-worship in France with Diana Vaughan and The Question of Modern Palladism, by Arthur Edward Waite. 1896.

END INSERTED QUOTE (c)2012

Frater Luna was never surprised by any act or "tricky" question in any rite. This was due to his visiting any unlocked room in The Grand Mansion of a big house, and reading any and all documents. He was a professional deviant.

 


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27/07/2020 8:24 am  

@shiva

I have a copy of Inside the Law, did you write about Crowleys terrible revelation he had whilst on the lakes of the USA?  Which page?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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27/07/2020 1:20 pm  

..or have I got that totally mixed up with something else you wrote?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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27/07/2020 6:53 pm  
Posted by: @shiva
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

what was that about

A person inquired

Thanks for supplying that further interesting information Shiva.

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about The Ritual of the 7 Holy Kings.

No relation to those famous 3 Kings of Eld Old (the Smo-King, the Drin-King and that other one)...

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... Frater Luna was locked in a closet).  After seven hours,

With "a full dose of LSD" inside him... Phew, that's Nice!!  Doubtless this could all be construed as very much a jolly "sign of the times" and maybe the answer's elsewhere in your book, but as a responsible medical professional did you happen to be aware of any er, health and safety precautions put in place?  If the unfortunate frater were to say suffer a heart attack and die whilst imprisoned, what continency arrangements would have been made with regards to the cadaver (buried in an anonymous shallow  grave in the desert perhaps?) afterwards?

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27/07/2020 7:10 pm  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

health and safety precautions put in place? 

The closet, silly.

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those famous 3 Kings of Eld Old (the Smo-King, the Drin-King and that other one)

Maybe this deserves its own thread (or has had one i've forgotten).

There are two obvious candidates for the name of the Third King he got in trouble for mentioning.

Is it the consensus of the forum that this Third King was called Fuc-, or (considering his age at the time) Wan-, or we just can't know? My vote being on the last of these.


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27/07/2020 9:18 pm  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

No relation to those famous 3 Kings of Eld Old (the Smo-King, the Drin-King and that other one)...

No sir.
It's a real ritual.

Its for cheaters. 

Kind of like the oath of the abyss. 

 

Cheaters song -neener neener neener 

I was telling my wife its a real 'technique' but it only really works 1 in 1,000 times if that. 

Usually go nutters. 

 

Seven Kings ritual you just get shamed 

 


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28/07/2020 2:07 am  
Posted by: @dom

I have a copy of Inside the Law, did you write about Crowleys terrible revelation he had whilst on the lakes of the USA?  Which page?

I posted it here, in one of the backwater threads.

I promised to return in some marble hall
to reveal the true curse of a Magus, y'all.
Someone posted the Confessions proof
and I let loose the secret through the roof.

How should I know on which page? I will have to look it up. I guess I can do it faster by embracing Borg siddhi maneuvers than you can picking page by page [please hold]

 

Sorry, we may not be thinking of the same thing. The curse of a Magus is that he has to spin his tale, knowing full well all the time that it's illusion.

As to Crowley on the Lakes, I have absolutely no reference or memory at all.

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very much a jolly "sign of the times"

Exactly. He had already read the ritual. He came out of the Abyss smiling. He loved every minute of it, because the attention was on him. It was set for 7 hours, but I said, "Let's get him out" at half that time. When it was over, he was friendly and rational. As noted, it worked, and I remember hi8m getting up to the II*.

Um, we played hard-ball.

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If the unfortunate frater were to say suffer a heart attack and die whilst imprisoned, what continency arrangements would have been made with regards to the cadaver

None. We were all young and tough. Nobody ever died or was injured in any ceremonial events. You are fretting over nothing.

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vote

Forni-

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Seven Kings ritual you just get shamed 

But then elevated to a (pseudo) Mastership of the Temple. It seems to work.

However, the topic was about how all this went over at Heruhaha. His reaction was similar to someone realizing the IX* had been stolen from somebody or somewhere and gleefully posted on the Wild World Web.

What choo gonna do
What choo gonna do
What choo gonna do
when your secrets are through?

Furthermore, I just looked and see this thread is about Starseed Transmission via Leary, who was lockind in a closet alone, without LSD, for a long time.

And he emerged with a transcript that mentions a Comet, and after that lights and curses and flashing gifs could be seen throughout all the marble halls of all the forum chambers.

Now that the dust has settled, what about it?


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28/07/2020 2:40 am  
Posted by: @shiva

Um, we played hard-ball.

So it would appear seem!

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None [=no contingency arrangements in case of sudden death]. We were all young and tough. Nobody ever died or was injured in any ceremonial events. You are fretting over nothing.

So it would seem appear!  Ah, that feeling of invincibility of youth... 

What was it Bobby Zimmerman said - "I was so much older younger then, I'm younger older than that now" ?

N Joy


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28/07/2020 2:57 am  
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that feeling of invincibility of youth... 

Yes. These are people who have not met their mortality. They know about it abstractly, but they have not met it. I think we al phased through that tunnel where other people died, but we did not. Then, one day, out of the blue ...Dbing! Death calling!

 


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