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Hamal
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31/08/2013 7:55 pm  

In my experience being a member of and on occasion being dragged into helping run all kinds of clubs and groups its often the oddest people who end up in charge. There is a great deal to be said for just remaining an ordinary member.

Anyone who doesn't avert eye contact when volunteers are called for usually gets drafted into some role or other. Maybe its just "acting" until such time as someone with the right qualifications can be found, whenever that will be!

The pen pushers, the marble counters, the nerdy folks with an eye for detail and nothing better to do with their lives. People who in daily life have no power or position but find that in this alternate universe they are somebody, they have a position of power. And pieces of paper, so many pieces of paper and red tape evolve because "we should have a form for that" and "I file triplicate copies of that".

If you asked some of these people what the club was actually about they would probably be stumped for a moment or two. Sometimes the mechanics of running a club become an end in themselves and people lose track of the very reason for its existence at all.

So when a book comes out written by the High Bishop's Under Secretary of the Beanpole society who has kept copies of all the correspondence and index cards (in triplicate) for the years xxxx to xxxx. You might very well glean a lot about beanpoles from it, but don't assume the author necessarily has any experience in the subject matter.

But the worst, the absolute worst thing that goes on in clubs and groups is the bickering, the incessant jabbing, back-stabbing and huff and puffing over the most seemingly petty things!

Now where's your 20p for the tea-bag fund?

Do you have any insights to share?

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31/08/2013 9:31 pm  
"Hamal" wrote:
Do you have any insights to share?

Yes. Your post seems to have nothing to do with AC or Thelema and so why are you wool-gathering here?


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Hamal
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31/08/2013 10:21 pm  
"Shiva" wrote:
"Hamal" wrote:
Do you have any insights to share?

Yes. Your post seems to have nothing to do with AC or Thelema and so why are you wool-gathering here?

Maybe I should have inserted the word "Thelema" in the title and a couple of times in the body of the text (kicks self). Never mind, I'll be over here sitting at a table by myself drinking something toxic and mumbling.... miserable...mumble...lot...mumble...mumble...

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Shiva
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01/09/2013 1:43 am  
"Hamal" wrote:
Maybe I should have inserted the word "Thelema" in the title and a couple of times in the body of the text (kicks self).

Well, if you had inserted "Thelema," then we would have to consider that OTO is a templar-military-type order, and usually tasks are assigned - not necessarily volunteered. And since A.'.A.'. is not really a group effort, then the whole concept is not applicable.

Now there might be other Thelemic groups that fit your scenario, but I suspect the whole deal pertains to the Boy Scouts or the local Church.


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Hamal
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01/09/2013 1:54 am  
"Shiva" wrote:
"Hamal" wrote:
Maybe I should have inserted the word "Thelema" in the title and a couple of times in the body of the text (kicks self).

Well, if you had inserted "Thelema," then we would have to consider that OTO is a templar-military-type order, and usually tasks are assigned - not necessarily volunteered. And since A.'.A.'. is not really a group effort, then the whole concept is not applicable.

Now there might be other Thelemic groups that fit your scenario, but I suspect the whole deal pertains to the Boy Scouts or the local Church.

Dib.. Dib.. Dib...

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01/09/2013 4:15 pm  

Is the Aleister Crowley Society a Thelemic club or group?


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01/09/2013 7:34 pm  

It's a society, based on the life, works and influence of Aleister Crowley.

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01/09/2013 8:44 pm  
"NKB" wrote:
Is the Aleister Crowley Society a Thelemic club or group?

No, it's a posthumous fan club.  😉

Interest is required, belief is not.


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Hamal
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01/09/2013 9:02 pm  

It was a light-hearted attempt to break the ice, given that I am a relatively new member!  ;D

Went down like a fart in a phone box!  😮

I bet AC would liven things up!  ::)

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01/09/2013 9:21 pm  
"NKB" wrote:
Is the Aleister Crowley Society a Thelemic club or group?

Some extracts from pages on this site might prove useful in this context:

LAShTAL.COM is very much a "labour of love" under will. I have studied Thelema and the works of Aleister Crowley for almost three decades. Not one day of those nearly thirty years has passed without being enriched by both. Growing frustrated by the difficulty I experienced in locating information about Thelemic culture and, of course, Aleister Crowley in the media, this site arose from an assumption that others might feel the same. 

I have no axe to grind, no enthusiasm for proselytizing - just a great admiration for the creative work of Aleister Crowley, a fascination with his life and the lives of his followers, a love of the work of several creative individuals influenced by him (Jimmy Page, Kenneth Anger and early Psychic TV are obvious examples), and a deep respect for the philosophy and religious/spiritual ideals of Thelema.

--- http://www.lashtal.com/portal/library/website/2166-2165-old-article.html

LAShTAL.COM is a non-commercial and non-partisan website devoted to the legacy of Aleister Crowley and to the impact of Crowley and Thelema on media, news and culture. It is Home of The Aleister Crowley Society.

It is 'non-commercial' to the extent that paid advertising is not and never will be accepted, in order to maintain the site's integrity. Additionally, membership is and always will be free. You will never be asked for payment as part of your membership of the site. The site exists as a result of funding supplied by the Owner & Editor and the kind donations of members.

It is 'non-partisan' in that it is impartial in its reporting of News and other items. This impartiality is a requirement of activity on the site and is rigorously reinforced through strict Moderation.

While many members are interested in 'the occult', 'divination', 'magick', etc., it is important to understand that LAShTAL.COM is not an 'occult' website. Its interests editorially are strictly cultural, biographical, bibliographical and social.

--- http://www.lashtal.com/portal/resources.html

I'm not sure the position of this site can be stated any more clearly.

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NKB
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02/09/2013 4:35 am  

I've read that before Paul but thanks for taking the time to re-state it. My question was actually meant in jest though... or "light-hearted" if you will.;)


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