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11/10/2019 9:37 pm  

This is anti-Semitic propaganda/disinformation.

This 83 year old Jewish UK peer does not own anyone's "news" or their "media" or their oil, or their government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rothschild%2C_4th_Baron_Rothschild

The Rothschilds did not "Finance both sides of every war since Napoleon"

No one "owns" the Federal Reserve, the central bank of of the US, and i suspect the same is true of most other central banks.

Finally, the ludicrous figure cited for his family's "worth" should give anyone pause: it is a significant multiple of any credible estimate of net world wealth, that is the value of EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, the best estimate is generally considered the Credit Suisse annual wealth report, which in 2018 estimated total global wealth at $317 trillion.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us-news/en/articles/news-and-expertise/global-wealth-report-2018-us-and-china-in-the-lead-201810.html


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11/10/2019 10:22 pm  

Yes, ignant666, and thank you for the comment. I am utterly ignorant in these matters, & I've sent the picture in the spirit of the title of this thread - "Examples of the black lodge?"

It is interesting how things can get absurd, as in the pic above; e.g. Mr.Rothschild does not resemble Mr.Burns in the slightest.


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11/10/2019 10:31 pm  

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/world-26-richest-people-own-as-much-as-poorest-50-per-cent-oxfam-report

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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11/10/2019 11:26 pm  

d's link says: 26 people own as much assets as the 50% poorest half of the population.

It doesn’t have to be this way – there is enough wealth in the world to provide everyone with a fair chance in life. Governments should act to ensure that taxes raised from wealth and businesses paying their fair share are used to fund free, good-quality public services that can save and transform people’s lives.”

Only 26? IHVH = 26. Wealth-leveling or -spreading has been a wonderful idea for a very long time. The problem is, those who have it don't want to share it, so they fight taxation tooth and nail. They give money to charities as an outward gesture of their benevolence, but their gifts pale before what the taxman would want.


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11/10/2019 11:47 pm  

IHVH = 26.

Careful, Shiva, please. That number alludes to a certain nationality.

Edit: I've just seen you've posted at 10:26 pm. Please, please.


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12/10/2019 2:17 am  

@Shiva :

Just as Crowley took potshots of demeanor toward everyone (Allan Bennett and Oscar Eckenstein excluded),
No, unfortunately he shot-putted Bennett too (the snake!).  By Eck he was all right, but then he was the Ips.
How about Louis Wilkinson with him as well?

so Ra-Hoor hurls curses toward any and all organized religion. 
But selected six out specifically!  Including making a Din with all the racket.  And, apart from anything else, Buddhism accentuates the rather endless suffering on the wheel of whoe rather than, or at the expense of, the joy.
An interesting "Mahatma" letter; is there a thread more concentrating on that somewhere else?  Also perceptive remarks (critique) regarding Icke.

I had not heard of the boing down to 30 knaves. Is there a list of these 30 folk? Full first/last names, not “Bilderbergers.”
Doesn't Forbes likes to list the rich as croesus dosh stasher awayers in descending numerical order

from @dom 's article :

The 12% increase in the wealth of the very richest contrasted with a fall of 11% in the wealth of the poorest half of the world’s population.
This is like a Robin Hood-gone-into-reverse effect.  Where is that guy when you need him?
I read somewhere that when 1% of the population owns 99% of the wealth some sort of "tipping point" will be reached; I think it was in connection with the Hundredth Monkey phenomenon but can't remember what the significant socio-economical result of it was supposed to be --- could anyone more familiar with the idea possibly help out?

@ignant666 :

Not exempt per his position, and not popes generally. i just think the current Pope is not particularly evil, and looks like a force for reform and good in the RC Church.
I agree, that the present one (Francis) seems better than a lot of his predecessors.   It raises the question of whether it is ever possible to grow a healthy bough on a rotten tree (as Gerald Suster was fond of remarking when discussing the fate of the post-Crowley O.T.O.) .  It's also unfortunate that all those who seem to have an early promise to try to improve things and make them better never hang around in the post very long to bring about any significant permanent changes in the status quo (John-Paul I, John XXIII etc.)

@Serpent252 :

It is interesting how things can get absurd, as in the pic above; e.g. Mr.Rothschild does not resemble Mr. Burns in the slightest.
Who is this Mr Burns ---he another banker?

Careful, Shiva, please. That number [26] alludes to a certain nationality
But fortunately wasn't this magic number originally meant to be 30? 

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12/10/2019 3:55 am  

In Wilson's bio he quotes AC who once wrote somewhere that the R.C. Church is "a base materialist cult". What did that allude to I wonder? The Church is an organization which holds billons of dollars/euros whatever in assets. The OTO or any other Thelema affiliated club probably couldn't get a table in your local junk sale/car boot. However the xtian cult in it's early days was in a similar position compared to the might of Pagan Rome. The xtians infiltrated it and was it Achad or some other product of Cefalu who had the big idea to become a Catholic Priest and build cells within and overthrow it?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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12/10/2019 5:19 am  

@JamieJBarter

You handsome devil, what's your favorite The Smiths' song? Mine is Rusholme Ruffians, you know,

"From a seat on a whirling waltzer
Her skirt ascends for a watching eye
It's a hideous trait (on her mother's side)..."

Mr. Burns = owner of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.

But fortunately wasn’t this magic number originally meant to be 30?

No idea. I've jumped to my dear copy of 777+D, although I know all that by heart, goddess bless thee. If you holding anything, please share. I mean, 30?

Yes Sir, I Will enjoy if I learn about 30, like, you know

"Say, if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems"

Ooh, my dear, it's October 12 already. Happy birthday to the prophet of the lovely Star!

Those Britons...


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12/10/2019 7:36 am  

let the worldling assume
liberty freedom and justice for all
so that they don’t venture
into another
gallant

acclimate and serial chip em

a chimera

not there


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12/10/2019 8:17 am  

jb: I agree, that the present one (Francis) seems better than a lot of his predecessors.

He does appear to be cleaning house, doesn't he?

jb: But fortunately wasn’t this magic number originally meant to be 30?

Careful Jamie, that number alludes to the Aethyrs, pieces of silver, and the 30th degree of Freemasonry: The Knight Kadosh.

Have you no respect for others?


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12/10/2019 11:15 am  

Great documentary on a Catholic priest into hip-hop, jogging and football;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsLtYfPtNG0&t=9s

……….which leads me to the magical rites of our pals in the R.C.Church. This following little documentary is about a Protestant gleaning info about what Catholic Priests do and what they think they represent.

At 6 mins the father describes how Heaven and Earth come together in the 'eucharist' that he does. Every 'mass' is the Last Supper in an eternal Now. This is the ritual to reach the timelessness zone where Christ offered his body and blood to redeem man where Heaven and Earth comes together i.e. a union a 'mass'. The priest plays the role then of magician thereby.

10:45 the bread is broken and again a timelessness union in communion is achieved as it were. It's not a mere commemoration of Christ breaking the bread before Rome arrested him and/or after his resurrection where he proved he had defeated death but it also a magical rite where the priest invokes Jesus-God eternal.

At 12:30 the priest having invoked God/Jesus transfers his magical power to the people. Again the people come to the priest to experience this magical event which aims at oneness (of all...well, all Catholics that is).

At 17:35 the Bishop's (higher order magician) oil-rituals are described. The Bishop invokes Jesus and then transfers/breaths on these oils hence blessing/charging/annointing them. I believe these magically charged oils are used to 'ordain' grant power to new priests and for other forms of witchcraft basically.

20:50 before you are baptized you are a Pagan and must be initiated to share in these magical rites which save your soul.

21:20 the confessional box. A private place where the sinner tells the priest his sins but he must admit how often he goes to church (my childhood dread was being questioned by an elder Catholic in my family or by a priest whether or not I had attended such a magical rite).

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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12/10/2019 12:12 pm  

Sorry this is the second documentary which didn't upload due to a time-out I think. Reference points above;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOlU_4pzft4

The magical rituals described above then employ pungent incense, a magical lamp, an altar of course, robes, chants, intonations, candles and imagery. A Catholic Priest is basically a magician existing within a strict hierarchy of other more powerful magicians who control his magical advancement through the world-wide organization.

I forgot to mention at 8:45 what makes these incredible buildings (cathedrals) is the special chair reserved for the higher magician known as the Bishop. His chair is "the cathedra" and each cathedral represents his high office and magical status. Mere churches in every 'diocese' do not hold these chairs. Above this seat is his coat of arms. When the cathedral is privileged to receive a holy visitation from one most high he will conduct the magical rites as described.

I forgot to mention that the Bishop's magically charged oils are used for exorcisms of demons. Talking of witch the R.C.Church has always administered exorcisms. Moat of the signs of demonic possession involve displays of E.S.P. Imagine that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism_in_the_Catholic_Church

This link will give you a who's who in this most strict hierarchy of magical power in this ancient and powerful international very rich organization (from Pope to Cardinal to Arch Bishop etc etc to your local village priest);

https://www.hierarchystructure.com/roman-catholic-church-hierarchy/

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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12/10/2019 4:38 pm  

@Serpent252 :

your favorite The Smiths’ song? Mine is Rusholme Ruffians, you know, 
Hard to choose between bigmouth, how soon & there is a light.  Also to tell the relevance to the OT?!

"Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
As the flames rose to her roman nose"

If you holding anything, please share. I mean, 30?  Yes Sir, I Will enjoy if I learn about 30, like, you know No, not holding. 
I know only from dom's original 4-out reference (number 117250) mentioning the figure 30 as follows:

"If you were to measure the gross net worth of every human on earth do you know how many people own 50% of the entire world’s wealth? Millions? Thousands? Hundreds? It’s actually less than 30 private individuals."

Mr Burns = owner of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.
Ah so, that Mr Burns, of course. With Burns as in radioactive, not as in a business deal ripoff. With first name Robbie, after robber barons, or perhaps even Rabbie named after the scot? (I ramble here.)

@shiva :

Have you no respect for others?
It all deepends, in which respect?

Birthday salutations
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12/10/2019 6:21 pm  

Ah yes it's fitting that miserable and repressed homosexual (not Ernst Rohm and his brownshirts no but)Steven Patrick Morrissey should crop up in this thread (albeit another thread derailment). If he does apply for KKK membership they ain't a' gonna accept no Catholics so he's kidding himself.

He's very much in the grip of the dark forces that Ignant talks of. How and why? Well either he always was (in which case every Smiths song now becomes a sort of yearning white- racist Volkmusik anthem so take your pick, "Heaven knows I'm miserable now", "Panic" and so on) or it's imo the Boyd Rice effect. That is, get left behind by the Music industry (by your own fault) so try to scramble back desperately by catering to some bizarre controversial niche within that industry (that being white supremacy) to generate controversy. All is not lost I guess he could spend the rest of his days doing the Moscow and Eastern European club circuit couldn't he? Well no actually as they don't appear to like his type.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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12/10/2019 7:00 pm  

As someone who always hated the Smiths, Morrissey's recent embrace of far-right politics is further confirmation of why they always sucked. Effeteness as an aesthetic is not my bag as the kids say.

[...] a sort of yearning white- racist Volkmusik anthem [...]

Why is it that this new anti-Nazi version of you can write so much better than the old one? A wonderfully turned phrase in any case.

I think there is a simpler explanation for why Boyd, and GPO, and Morrissey etc etc have advocated far-right views- not hunger for publicity, but the same reason other people do- they are right-wing scum.


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12/10/2019 7:18 pm  

Statement NR (Not a Reply)

The Black Lodge is in your Heart.
Duality of Shen (consciousness)

The Dark Force is in your Head.
Making a difference twixt one thing et al

Then you finally get Aligned.
Assemblage Point neutered to Zero deviation

Hark! There is no Difference any more.
An Inability to perceive duality ensues

Followed by Return to the realm of "My Mind."
Oh, crapola! There's those shady fellows again

Moral: If one stops their mind, all this conflict disappears. So rather than fight matter with matter, it is auspicious to allow the goddess Zero to absorb the difference.

Sorry, we don't give change. Ther'll be nothing left over.

Until the next time one starts thinking.


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12/10/2019 7:53 pm  

Ah yes it’s fitting that miserable and repressed homosexual (not Ernst Rohm and his brownshirts no but)Steven Patrick Morrissey should crop up in this thread (albeit another thread derailment).

Yes, it raises the whole question again (for some other thread) of whether actual artwork by an artist/ musician/ writer is unavoidably tainted or rendered null and void by what's later revealed about what they get up to in their public or private life. or beliefs they may or may not hold. There are many many examples that come to my mind (the first one, for some bizarre reason, is Rolf Harris, painter, didgeridoo exponent & composer of that piece of ur-psychedelia, "Sun Arise").

Curious that you should pick up on his supposedly being an "miserable and repressed homosexual" as the first of his transgressions and offences to spring to mind. You wouldn't be homophobic yourself, by any chance dom?

As for derailment, I queried the relevance of The Smiths to the OT also. But unlike some, I like to answer all queries addressed to me where I can.  Profoundly sorry for happening to like some of their songs, by the way: I hope you all won't hold it too much against me.

Nothing more to add further this evening as going out: so Bon soir,
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13/10/2019 3:03 am  

@ignant

Why is it that this new anti-Nazi version of you can write so much better than the old one? A wonderfully turned phrase in any case

Thanks.

@jamiebarter

Yes, it raises the whole question again (for some other thread) of whether actual artwork by an artist/ musician/ writer is unavoidably tainted or rendered null and void by what’s later revealed about what they get up to in their public or private life. or beliefs they may or may not hold.

Yeah I once watched a group of scholars debate whether Wagner's operas were "evil" or not.

The Smiths music was generally very good and the vocals. As for the lyrics well LOOK!! The emperor hasn't got any clothes on!!

Curious that you should pick up on his supposedly being an “miserable and repressed homosexual” as the first of his transgressions and offences to spring to mind. You wouldn’t be homophobic yourself, by any chance dom?

We know he is hung up about being gay don't we so that's not conducive for him being able to unravel his depression issues is it?.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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13/10/2019 3:30 am  

Entered this day

A skull bearer
A kapalika

sentenced
for killing a Brahmin
dwelling at desolate crossroads, in a charnel ground,
a skull as an alms-bowl, and the skull of the Brahmin they had slain
mounted on a wooden staff as a banner
meditation object .

poof
dark evil hood


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13/10/2019 7:42 am  

Oh, Tiger! I just love it when you type Aghoric.


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13/10/2019 9:33 am  

Shiva the second YouTube video link i provided show a Catholic priest describing different aspects of their Black Mass which is performed by Black Magicians on their Black Sabbaths lol.

These rituals are black and I don't mean funky. Have you ever attended any such Old Aeon Black Mass? I have attended many as a young person. You can imagine i had to undergo exorcisms when i became Pagan again.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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13/10/2019 12:32 pm  

you can ‘reboot’ It all you want, but the system always self corrects. To chaos, destruction, light and happiness.

happiness? light? what ae these things you speak of. without destruction of the fat controllers towers? insurmountable, witch is doing nothing aghoric

a martian heirophantical universal adjustment
Yeah, that’s what everyone is hoping for and anxiously awaiting for next week, next Spring, next decade, (next Aeon?? … Yuga?).

Kali rising is the 4front of existence have you seen the dance of kali MA ? so beautiful, creation. Hands on thinking, how does it destroy?

noone cant decide, fortnight this spring is now, only the universe knows, speak to her mayhaps. maybe pissed off at everyone kicking football 4 control... and hands on random footballs ..rambling here .. deepends

I thereupon abandoned Icke & Co. That was sixteen years ago!

2005-2009 here Murdoch Fairfax thing

With Burns as in radioactive

ah the supposed wanted/unwanted atom again.. when the lion becomes a serpent

ps rolf harris.. I always knew … even as a kid he made skin crawl ..when all about tried to persuade.... essentially unchanged from end unto end

Amen the end


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13/10/2019 12:58 pm  

2:5 AL

5. Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet! Then shall this Knowledge go aright.

I've demonstrated how the black magic of the R.C.Church must be included in the line from AL above but what about the rituals of Judaism, Hinduism, Protestand Christianity and Islam? Do they have similar black magical invocations undertaken by their elected magician-priests?

Furthermore is there a magical war going on on the planet? Does this old aeon black magic keep the world in the terrible situation that it's in now or is it merely symbolic? If the black magic and black sabbaths of these old aeon gods cease to be would the earth truly undergo regeneration spoken of in AL namely in 1:53 AL;

53. This shall regenerate the world, the little world my sister, my heart & my tongue, unto whom I send this kiss. Also, o scribe and prophet, though thou be of the princes, it shall not assuage thee nor absolve thee. But ecstasy be thine and joy of earth: ever To me! To me!

Perhaps they should be made illegal ultimately.

The enemy in Thelema as spoken of in AC's rituals/ceremonies is Set. Is the jealous Set another name of the jealous demon Jehova or Allah who are against all Pagamism? I don't mean the Temple of Set which appeared to be based on ludicrous neo-Nazi 'spirituality'.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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13/10/2019 3:18 pm  

Excerpt from ignant666's quotes from site first linked to by Shiva, in this thread:

"Hitler introduced a financial system that was free of usury and beneficial to the working class. This mandated the utter destruction of Germany and the German people, because the Rothschilds and the Khazarians could never allow an economic system that did not depend upon usury to exist."

The first sentence in this excerpt is correct. (For more on this, search for the name Gottfried Feder in this English edition of A.H.'s book Mein Kampf. This name is mentioned in "Chapter 8 The Beginning Of My Political Activities, and in "Chapter 9
The German Labour Party" [= the party Hitler joined, took over and renamed]: Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler Translated into English by James Murphy - - - http://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf)

As for the last sentence in this excerpt, Hitler's Nazi regime exempted self-identified descendants of the Khazars, from the policy of genocidal extermination, on the basis that they were not ethnic Jews. (Source: Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry - - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry#cite_ref-52)

I dont't know the history of the expression "Khazarian Mafia", but the site first linked to by Shiva, in this thread, containes the following article "Khazarian Mafia Doesn’t Exist, Ashkenazi Are Scapegoats Of Jewish Power Elite
By Ian Greenhalgh -October 8, 2019" (Source: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/08/khazarian-mafia-doesnt-exist-ashkenazi-are-scapegoats-of-jewish-power-elite/), in which disapproves of this expression.

I agree with this from Shiva's REPLY #117337 in this thread: "... there is no such thing as a cohesive Black Lodge. With each member being dedicated to themselves, their profits, and their longevity, there can be no “common goal.” This does not mean individuals cannot “breathe together,” which any sensible business-person would do if they wanted to promote their business, agenda, or profits."

Thus it is not beneficial to accuse groups of individual persons for having a common cohesive "Black Lodge" goal. As any individual person bound to be unsuccessful and/or bound to be lost in the abyss, or already lost in the abyss, will express this in an unique way.


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13/10/2019 3:19 pm  

Excerpt from ignant666's quotes from site first linked to by Shiva, in this thread:

"Hitler introduced a financial system that was free of usury and beneficial to the working class. This mandated the utter destruction of Germany and the German people, because the Rothschilds and the Khazarians could never allow an economic system that did not depend upon usury to exist."

The first sentence in this excerpt is correct. (For more on this, search for the name Gottfried Feder in this English edition of A.H.'s book Mein Kampf. This name is mentioned in "Chapter 8 The Beginning Of My Political Activities, and in "Chapter 9
The German Labour Party" [= the party Hitler joined, took over and renamed]: Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler Translated into English by James Murphy - - - http://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf)

As for the last sentence in this excerpt, Hitler's Nazi regime exempted self-identified descendants of the Khazars, from the policy of genocidal extermination, on the basis that they were not ethnic Jews. (Source: Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry - - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry#cite_ref-52)

I dont't know the history of the expression "Khazarian Mafia", but the site first linked to by Shiva, in this thread, containes the following article "Khazarian Mafia Doesn’t Exist, Ashkenazi Are Scapegoats Of Jewish Power Elite
By Ian Greenhalgh -October 8, 2019" (Source: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/08/khazarian-mafia-doesnt-exist-ashkenazi-are-scapegoats-of-jewish-power-elite/), which disapproves of this expression.

I agree with this from Shiva's REPLY #117337 in this thread: "... there is no such thing as a cohesive Black Lodge. With each member being dedicated to themselves, their profits, and their longevity, there can be no “common goal.” This does not mean individuals cannot “breathe together,” which any sensible business-person would do if they wanted to promote their business, agenda, or profits."

Thus it is not beneficial to accuse groups of individual persons for having a common cohesive "Black Lodge" goal. As any individual person bound to be unsuccessful and/or bound to be lost in the abyss, or already lost in the abyss, will express this in an unique way.


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13/10/2019 4:19 pm  

WRWB: i think you will need a better citation than Mein kampf for the benefits of German banking in the Hitler era. A book published in 1925 cannot tell us what the Nazis actually did after they took power:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark

Feder's ideas were somewhat influential on Nazi economic theory until 1933, when the left "beefsteak Nazis"["brown (the Nazi color) on the outside, red (as in "communist") on the inside"] "Strasserites" were purged. None of his ideas, such as they were, about banking were ever put into practice. He was naturally a raving anti-Semite who thought the solution to Germany's economic problems was getting rid of the Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Feder

The idea that some Jews are "Khazars" is a myth that has historically been popular among anti-Semites. There is no evidence that this is true, and few scholars accept this idea: perhaps you should read the wikipedia article you linked to (all of it)?

The "Veterans Today" site you and Shiva linked to is a far-right/neo-Nazi site that is a far from reliable source, especially on anything about Jews. There appear to be many more articles on the site accusing Jews of being responsible for literally every bad thing that has ever happened in history that any other topic.


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13/10/2019 7:25 pm  

d: Have you ever attended any such Old Aeon Black Mass?

No opportunity, no interest, no attendance.

ww: have you seen the dance of kali MA ?

No, but my wife in real life carries the name Soror Kali,
and that's more than enough for little Shiva me.

d: Judaism, Hinduism, Protestand Christianity and Islam? Do they have similar black magical invocations undertaken by their elected magician-priests?

I thought I made it clear that ALL cultures have their dark components. This is obvious and requires only common sense; this perception does not rely on my authoritative insistence that it is so. I don't know about the democratically "elected" part. Sometimes the errants are clandestine and sneaky.

d: Furthermore is there a magical war going on on the planet?

Oh, heavens and other vacations spots! Yes, of course there's such a thing. Its primary field of action is the so-called Causal Plane ... which we know as the triad of Tiph-Geb-Ches. Sincere aspirants may find this struggle taking place within their own field of consciousness.

Does this old aeon black magic keep the world in the terrible situation that it’s in now or is it merely symbolic?

A lot'a questions this morn. Here's the problem: A symbol is a symbol because it contains (sym-) the energy (or intent, structure,
essence ... etc) of the thing it symbolizes.

If one wants to express the concept, merely symbolic, as "a useless gesture," they would say, merely a sign.

A sign is descriptive, while a symbol (supposedly) is the real thing itself, or at least an operative proxy.

The "old aeon black magic" fuels, orders, and stabilizes the mindset of those who attend. So, yes, any such ceremonial reinforcement would tend to support the battle.

If everyone just did their rites, there would be fewer problems. But noooo. The ritualists ALSO seek to impose their paradigm on others, they identify "enemies" or "heretics" or "infidels" in other people's rites. Their paradigm motivates them to promote invasions, crusades, and subjugation of said ignorant foes.

If the black magic and black sabbaths of these old aeon gods cease to be would the earth truly undergo regeneration spoken of in AL namely in 1:53 AL ...

I doubt it. 1;53, and other anti-X lines, refer to a duality. One must (note the imperative must) also apply the mystical (inward) allusions to their personal illusions.

wr: (quote): [The alleged bad guys} "could never allow an economic system that did not depend upon usury to exist.”

When Nikola Tesla approached J.P. Morgan with his invention that broadcast electricity (a system that actually worked ... without wires), J.P. concluded that there was no profit in giving away free electricity. So the free electricity generator that was under construction stopped dead in its tracks. Wires and pay-for-power meters have become the status quo.

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@wellreadwellbred via @Shiva :

I agree with this from Shiva’s REPLY #117337 in this thread: “… there is no such thing as a cohesive Black Lodge. With each member being dedicated to themselves, their profits, and their longevity, there can be no “common goal.” This does not mean individuals cannot “breathe together,” which any sensible business-person would do if they wanted to promote their business, agenda, or profits.”
Thus it is not beneficial to accuse groups of individual persons for having a common cohesive “Black Lodge” goal. As any individual person bound to be unsuccessful and/or bound to be lost in the abyss, or already lost in the abyss, will express this in an unique way.

However the "common cohesive goal" would be to promote their "business, agenda and profits" in other words their interests, in terms of optimising as far as possible their mutual self-advantage (if this can't be seen as a contradiction in terms).  A sort of Black "United Nations", in other words. There must be a heck of a lot of double-crossing going on if so.
But in such an eventuality would this collective "breathing together" have some long-term ecological agenda as a goal also these days, I wonder?  In other words: a cost-benefit analysis of maximising profits for themselves versus fucking up the planet for everyone (with themselves included). This apocalyptic scenario for all would therefore need to have some other alterative goal in mind as well (going full circle now back to conspiracy theory again, eg 'Alternative 3').

@wormwood :

a martian heirophantical universal adjustment
Typo check: should this be martian (sic), martial or maatian --- or all 3?

Yeah, that’s what everyone is hoping for and anxiously awaiting for next week, next Spring, next decade, (next Aeon?? … Yuga?). 
Wasn't that what was meant to be happening in 2012 coming through from Sagittarius?  Via Coph nia emanating from our galactic centre originating in Andromeda (or possibly the Larger Magellanic Cloud), that is.  Who on Earth knows??

@dom :

The enemy in Thelema as spoken of in AC’s rituals/ceremonies is Set.
It's my understanding that according to the Typhonian Order (formerly the Typhonian O.T.O.) and Kenneth Grant's writings and dogma, Set is equivalent to Hoor-paar-kraat: the Silent Self as the passive counterpart and 'twin' of Ra Hoor Khuit within Heru-ra-ha (and therefore in this symbiotic sense, functioning as "brothers fight ye"). 
Where is it "spoken" (=written) in AC's rituals/ ceremonies that the "enemy" is Set, and what does that mean exactly --- is it enemy in the same sense as e.g. Choronzon, an adversary to be individually overcome on the path, or something more external and universal?
If what you write is true (about Set being the enemy in [of] Thelema), then this would make the Typhonians another example of the Black Lodge wouldn't it?  Perhaps Michael or one of the other members/ aficionados of Kenneth might care to comment on this accuracy of this comparison. 

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@shiva

Thanks great reply.

@jamiebarter

Yes Jamie thanks for clarifying that I was thinking of the Apep Snake of chaos as the enemy of RA. Set is involved in that conflict but in the positive role of helper of RA.

I was also thinking of "the jealous god Jehova" and thought that there may be some association re the Osirisian old aeon of oppressions.

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13/10/2019 8:37 pm  

("From the deepest point of view, the greatest value of this formula [= the Law of Thelema associated with AC] is that it affords, for the first time in history, a basis of reconciliation between the three great Schools of Magick. It will tend to appease the eternal conflict by understanding that each type of thought shall go on its own way, develop its own proper qualities without seeking to inter- fere with other formulae, however (superficially) opposed to its own." (Source: Magick Without Tears, Chapter 8: The Three Schools of Magick [the White represented by AC, the Yellow represented by Helena Petrowna Blavatsky, and the Black represented by Annie Besant, according to AC in the said chapter.]))

"There are, of course, entirely black forms of magic. To him who has not given every drop of his blood for the cup of BABALON all magic power is dangerous. There are even more debased and evil forms, things in themselves black. Such is the use of spiritual force to material ends. Christian Scientists, Mental Healers, Professional Diviners, Psychics and the like, are all “ipso facto” Black Magicians.

They exchange gold for dross. They sell their higher powers for gross and temporary benefit. [...] Below these in one sense, yet far above them in another, are the Brothers of the Left Hand Path. These are they who “shut themselves up”, who refuse their blood to the Cup, who have trampled Love in the Race for self-aggrandisment." (Source: Magick in Theory and Practice - Chapter 21.)

"To them [= "the Black Brothers" or "the Black Lodge"] Knowledge will be everything, and what is Knowledge but the very soul of Illusion?" (Magick Without Tears, Chapter 12, The Left-Hand Path - "The Black Brothers")

The preceding quotes from AC, contradict that The Roman Catholic Church, Evangelical Protestant churches, Putin, the US Republican Party, the US Drug Enforcement Agency, the UK Conservative and Brexit Parties, Bolsonaro’s Social Liberal Party in Brazil, or the National Front in France, can be examples of "the black lodge in action", as mentioned in the beginning of this thread.

They can at the very most be potential examples of what AC described as "debased and evil forms" of "black forms of magic", "Such [as] the use of spiritual force to material ends." The mentioned examples of "the black lodge in action", are irrelevant, as not one of them is designed (in its nature and mission) for its members to accomplish something akin to what AC understood by "Crossing the Abyss".

"the (c)OTO; Gunther’s “Make Your Own Mc-A.’. A.’.”.", mentioned by ignant666, and LRH's Church of Scientology mentioned by Shiva, can both be relevant examples of what AC understood by terms like "The Black Brothers" or "The Black Lodge" or "The Left-Hand Path". As they both (in nature and mission) are designed for their members to accomplish something akin to what AC understood by "Crossing the Abyss".


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13/10/2019 9:20 pm  

jb: However the “common cohesive goal” would be to promote their “business, agenda and profits” in other words their interests, in terms of optimising as far as possible their mutual self-advantage

That's right. Here's how it works in a simple, easy-to-understand format, from the streets of Mexico: Every male in the neighborhood is constantly, endlessly trying to commit adultery with his neighbor's wife. All the neighbors, all the wives ... if possible.

They will also bond together in groups to oppose the "other" groups. You may think of this as "gang formation," which describes competition, politics, and metaphysical antagonism on all levels of society.

But if a gringo moves into the neighborhood, all the groups and individuals will drop their antagonisms and band together to fleece the gringo. This union is temporary.

This quaint scenario is not limited to Mexico. mexico is used as an example because Frater Shiva lkived there and can testify through observation and experience, and because South-of-the-Border such activities are so obvious and visible. First world countries call it "dealing under the table."


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13/10/2019 9:34 pm  

Jamie J Barter: "... would this collective “breathing together” have some long-term ecological agenda as a goal also these days, I wonder? In other words: a cost-benefit analysis of maximising profits for themselves versus fucking up the planet for everyone (with themselves included)."

Well, LRH did repeatedly warn against f---ing up the planet; "There is a higher goal, a better goal, a more glorious victory than gutted towns and radiation-burned dead. There is freedom and happiness and plenty and a whole Universe to be won. He who would not see it is far from worthy to rule. He who would indulge his hates is too insane to advise. How much can Man conquer? He loses if he conquers Man. He wins if he conquers his own fears and conquers, then the stars."

But as stated in a recent short commercial from his Church ("Scientology Invites YOU to Freedom (commercial)" - - - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQl4hCEVFw8), "... You are a spirit. You are your own soul. You are not mortal. You can be free. ..." That is, LRH's Church is in its nature and mission, designed to overcome the end of all life on this planet.


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13/10/2019 10:24 pm  

@wrwb et al

Such is the use of spiritual force to material ends. Christian Scientists, Mental Healers, Professional Diviners, Psychics and the like, are all “ipso facto” Black Magicians.
They exchange gold for dross. They sell their higher powers for gross and temporary benefit

Wannabe psychic con-men/women. Creepy muthafuckas.

The preceding quotes from AC, contradict that The Roman Catholic Church, Evangelical Protestant churches, Putin, the US Republican Party, the US Drug Enforcement Agency, the UK Conservative and Brexit Parties, Bolsonaro’s Social Liberal Party in Brazil, or the National Front in France, can be examples of “the black lodge in action”, as mentioned in the beginning of this thread.

Not really. See Feudalism and (the role of The Church and) it's bastard child. More to the point take the Bible Belt/Evangelical support base from The Republican party and the latter probably collapses like a house of cards. A great deal of Republican Party policy towards Israel is based on wacko xtian prophetic hogwash regarding the big Satan vs Jesus Apocalypse. George Bush would talk to foreign leaders about "Gog and Magog" and no doubt that would confirm that they were dealing with a madman. Putin probably keeps very well in with the Russian church for similar purposes. These churches are hardly following the example of their founder who was clearly some sort of Anarchist. Search for the lyrics to Woodie Guthrie's song 'Jesus Christ' where he says that Jesus told the rich to give to the poor so they (the establishment) put him in his grave. Sounds like the history of American Republican foreign policy doesn't it (Viet Nam, South America so on)?

Where did Christ say to Peter to go forth as a celibate male and preach my word in an anti-female celibate male hierarchy and whilst your at it build great buildings where my mass is performed and form an international bank and amass and hold onto great riches and allow the mass of poor to be fucked over century after century? So yeah the Black (Christian) Mass is a con and an exchange of spiritual power for gold. I already quoted Crowley here who said that the Church is "a base and materialist cult".

Mohammed was not a fan of banking and money-lending either but are you telling me that Islam does not employ accountants and financiers to keep[ the organization and administration together?

Anti-Semitism? Any alien group with a very strong tradition and self-identity is going to be a target and a way to release pressure when things go wrong now and again. See pogroms. The Jews in Christendom if I'm not mistaken were denied employment and they were forced to get good at something fast. As usury was seen as a sin for Christians for centuries the Jews found an ideal zone to specialise in.... apparently.

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13/10/2019 11:19 pm  

"Set has his throne in the deepest, darkest recesses of the human unconscious. And the human unconscious is the gateway to all the other zones of reality that comprise the magician’s neighborhood. He’s in deep, but that’s because we put him there. If human beings are social animals, and need society to feel safe, comfortable and to sleep their way through existence, then Set needs to be suppressed. And when Set is suppressed, then everything connected to Set is suppressed. And that’s how most of us live.

It’s not a very magical approach to life.
But it’s safe.

Let’s look at the 24th Tunnel of Set, that known as Niantiel. Kenneth Grant describes what was seen on a tour of this Tunnel, this scary back alley on the Tree of Life. And it’s not pretty.

It’s about a Death Cult whose members “became addicted to necrophilia”. The ritual involves sex with a “ ritually slain woman dedicated to the deity with whom contact was sought “.
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In the rituals of the Kalachakra Tantra - the form of Vajrayana Buddhism practiced in Tibet by the Dalai Lama into which he has initiated thousands of people all around the world - there are instructions for the preservation of urine feces in special jars at various points of the Mandala, as well as those for blood and semen.(I have already discussed this in Tantric Temples) The motivation is probably the same: to demonstrate that there are no bad substances, no “ugliness” in the world, that all is a manifestation of the Goddess,…..

The problem with the scene depicted as having taken place in the Tunnel of Set known as Niantiel is that a woman was slain for the purpose of contacting the Old Ones. Everything else would be permissible to a Tantric Adept, in our world, except murder and human sacrifice.

Except…except…it has been known to occur. Human sacrifice was not unknown to the various Tantric sects of India, Tibet, and even Southeast Asia. Tantra is about power, about shakti, and there have been Tantric Kings who coveted the power represented by the Goddess Kundalini and who applied that arcane knowledge to the world of politics and government. Kings have never been squeamish about killing people; add a religious or occult justification "

The Dark Lord by Peter Levenda pg290 - 293

" The serious pursuit of magic-as of shamanism, of Tantra-requires that your point of view shift to that of the source of the knowledge. It requires that you abandon your safe place. Otherwise you are only standing at the edge of the Abyss and taking quick glances over the edge of the Abyss and taking quick glances over the side. There is no information in that pose, no initiation possible in a state of suspended animation. You must enter a place where all the cool academic theories no longer obtain, where the comforting “it’s all in your head” platitudes and attitudes have no meaning-because your head, your body, your soul and spirit are fully engaged in ways they never have been before, and it is not what you expected when you bought the ticket.

The above is true about magic in general, but in the case of the Typhonian Tradition it is especially important to understand these challenges. Because it is not a solar tradition but a stellar one….."
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13/10/2019 11:29 pm  

@Shiva

d: Furthermore is there a magical war going on on the planet?

Oh, heavens and other vacations spots! Yes, of course there’s such a thing. Its primary field of action is the so-called Causal Plane … which we know as the triad of Tiph-Geb-Ches. Sincere aspirants may find this struggle taking place within their own field of consciousness.

Shiva, you basically have said a magical war has been happening below the Abyss. The Black Lodge's members cannot cross the Abyss?

@JamieJBarter

Also to tell the relevance to the OT?! + As for derailment, I queried the relevance of The Smiths to the OT also. But unlike some, I like to answer all queries addressed to me where I can.

No relevance. I've just been tired of the bloody Black Lodge. I apologize. Been in absentia, unable to answer sooner.

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13/10/2019 11:52 pm  

dom: "... are you telling me that Islam does not employ accountants and financiers to keep[ the organization and administration together?"

No, I am "saying" that “the (c)OTO; Gunther’s “Make Your Own Mc-A.’. A.’.”.”, mentioned by ignant666 in this thread, and LRH’s Church of Scientology mentioned by Shiva in this thread, can both be relevant examples of what AC understood by terms like “The Black Brothers” or “The Black Lodge” or “The Left-Hand Path”.

Please notice that what I am "saying" is that they both can be relevant as such examples, not that they both definetly are relevant as such examples.


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14/10/2019 12:01 am  

wrwb

Well Jesus was some sort of Anarchist but the lie is perpetuated that he wasn't. Who by? The Church that claims to represent him.

Look at it this way "dark forces" are about (political and economic) restriction. In Thelema "sin" is restriction.

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14/10/2019 12:37 am  

citations by @tiger :

Let’s look at the 24th Tunnel of Set, that known as Niantiel. Kenneth Grant describes what was seen on a tour of this Tunnel, this scary back alley on the Tree of Life. And it’s not pretty.
The Tree of Life (and its backside along with any concomitant tunnels branching off it) is a figurative representation not a 3-dimensional actuality.  As R.A. Wilson (amongst many others) liked to put it, this is confusing the map with the territory. 

The motivation is probably the same: to demonstrate that there are no bad substances, no “ugliness” in the world, that all is a manifestation of the Goddess
And this is mixing the planes.  Viewed from a certain nonduaistic perspective of the Supernal Triad, this would indeed be so: however wouldn't (for instance) death camps, torture chambers & all their ilk rightly qualify as "ugliness" from further down?

It’s about a Death Cult whose members “became addicted to necrophilia”. The ritual involves sex with a “ ritually slain woman dedicated to the deity with whom contact was sought [... A] woman was slain for the purpose of contacting the Old Ones. Everything else would be permissible to a Tantric Adept, in our world, except murder and human sacrifice.
This is presumably a reference to the fictional work of that well-known Adeptus, Howard P. Lovecraft.  What is there that is New Aeon (wherein blood sacrifice is abrogate) about these abominably Old Aeon procedures?

Tiger, with this we see the unwelcome return of a once regrettably more commonplace practice on Lashtal: the uploading of a bunch of quotes [or links] with no comment as to why they were chosen and considered apposite; why they should appear in which particular context; and what they are meant to be saying (the point they are supposed to be trying to make) in terms of their relevance to the subject-matter of the thread.  Would it be possible to get a ("carriage return fault free") explanation as to any or all of these and/or to my comments above please?

@Serpent252 :

The Black Lodge's members cannot cross the Abyss?
By definition.

@dom :

In Thelema "sin" is restriction.
To be exact: "The Word of Sin is Restriction."

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14/10/2019 4:06 am  

s: The Black Lodge’s members cannot cross the Abyss?

No, they cannot. This is where the line is drawn. Selfish versus Selfless.

jb: And this is mixing the planes.

A common error, one which we have sternly been warned about.

When people get confused reading Crowley, I always had to remind them to determine what level he was writing from. This allows one to assume the proper perspective before reciting or making a movie about any particular Liber. One simply cannot turn the other cheek so a Grizzly bear can take off the other side of your face.

jb (admonishing El tigre): ... a bunch of quotes [or links] with no comment as to why they were chosen and considered apposite

I found his quotes to be a perfect parallel to the scenario(s) described throughout this thread. Tiger is merely posting easily identifiable references citing examples that prove not all of us are all mad. I understand your point, but in this particular case (Tiger vs Necro), the connection was crystal clear (to me). As to who's mad and who's not, I cannot help you.


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14/10/2019 4:21 am  

Would it be possible to get a (“carriage return fault free

It can appear
as a carriage
return
in english
but coded in a language
might not appear
apposite
a dance of energetic beings,
evocative of movement
energy in space
the insubstantiality of all phenomena
mixing simultaneously
the pure potentiality for all possible manifestations
churned
at least
recognized
by some .

that's all that came out
to your ?
Jamie

for now
i hear you
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14/10/2019 6:16 am  

traffic
in the Ni an thi el
corridor
manifested
in 3d

apparent
host
being
know


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14/10/2019 12:25 pm  

OP [Beginning of this thread.]: dom: "... feel free to post links you have of the black lodge in action as follows; ...""

To AC, an initiatic organization or order or school, that for "... the use of spiritual force to material ends ..." (= a "debased and evil form..." "of magic" according to AC), has betrayed its purpose of preparing its members for “Crossing the Abyss”, would be an example of “the Black Lodge” or "the Black Brothers" or “The Left-Hand Path”, in action.

If an A.’. A.’. akin to AC's A.’. A.’. does this, or if the Church of Scientology founded by LRH does this, then they would be examples of “the Black Lodge” or "the Black Brothers" or “The Left-Hand Path”, in action.

(What AC called “the Black Lodge” or "the Black Brothers" or “The Left-Hand Path”, does not pertain to what he called "The Black School of Magick", and of which the following are described by him as respectively an example and an adherent; Buddhism and Schopenhauer. (Source: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/crowley/mwt/mwt_07.htm#ac2 --- Magick Without Tears by Aleister Crowley Chapter VII: The Three Schools of Magick (2)[.])


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14/10/2019 6:46 pm  

In addition to Buddhism and Schopenhauer, AC does in the latter source present Christianity — defined as a "religion whose essence is the propitiation of a malignant demon", and described as "Evangelical cults with their ferocious devil-god who creates mankind for the pleasure of damning it and forcing it to crawl before him, while he yells with druken glee over the agony of his only son." — as representing “The Black School of Magick”.


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14/10/2019 7:45 pm  

Between AC and AL, we find all identifiable religions either cursed or assigned to Black status ... except Taoism, which AC liked.

Modern Taoism would agitate him though, because many "schools" have practices, moral codes, and all that stuff people want to impose on others. But that's the exoteric, outer order Taoist stuff. The esoteric view, rooted in the Tao Teh Ching, and nothing else, without external guidelines, cannot be anything but exempt from classification, due to its net sum of Zero.

Personally, I find esoteric Buddhism to be of the Yellow school, but the exoteric ashrams are apparently filled with young men who beg for food and are currently given junk rations (M&Ms, Ding-Domgs, Chips Ahoy) and they merely become overweight, ill from excessive sugar consumption, and somehow fail to attain Nirvana. How sad.

If we shift into Cosmic Overdrive and consult U.G., the spiritual terrorist, we see him proclaiming any and all attempts to sell spiritual advancement or advantage part of The Spiritual Con.

That doesn't leave us with much, does it?


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14/10/2019 10:43 pm  

wrwb

I see thanks for that.

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14/10/2019 11:50 pm  

Below is an incredible work of art made in 1434, A new age site I was on claims that the painter had a vison of the anti-christ and that the female has horns like a Beast. Does the male remind you of any political leader?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ODhKqFaugQ&t=72s

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15/10/2019 6:01 am  

How about a jaunt ?
out
to the mall
with some Ding-Domgs, Chips Ahoy, M&Ms

For Real


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15/10/2019 7:28 am  

Shiva: "Between AC and AL, we find all identifiable religions either cursed or assigned to Black status … except Taoism, which AC liked."

Aaaaaaand, "... we have only to add the Tantras of what are called the Vamacharya Schools. Paradoxical as it may sound the Tantrics are in reality the most advanced of the Hindus. Their theory is, in its philosophical ultimatum, a primitive stage of the White tradition, for the essence of the Tantric cults is that by the performance of certain rites of Magick, one does not only escape disaster, but obtains positive benediction. The Tantric is not obsessed by the will-to-die. It is a difficult business, no doubt, to get any fun out of existence; but at least it is not impossible." (Source: Magick Without Tears by Aleister Crowley Chapter VII: The Three Schools of Magick (2)[.])


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15/10/2019 3:08 pm  

There seems to be a lot of confusion in applying AC's admittedly confusing terminology to human affairs.

The Black Lodge and the Black School have nothing to do with each other. Black Brothers have nothing to do with the Black School, though they may occasionally be part of the Black Lodge.

The Black School is one of three equal Schools that cooperate towards a common goal, the liberation of humanity, with disagreements about how best to accomplish this, according to MWOT. All three Schools work towards the Light. The three Schools are also sometimes called the Secret Chiefs.

The Black Lodge opposes the efforts of the White School, the Black School and the Yellow School. It works to increase darkness and to enslave. Most of its efforts are exoteric in nature (naturally, since it opposes Light, it works on the material plane- politics and power). The various branches of it need not meet or agree to anything, since they have common goals. No conspiracy is posited or needed. Very few who work to accomplish the Black Lodge's goals are adepts of any kind.

Black Brothers are advanced adepts who do not cross the abyss because they exalt, rather than annihilating, the ego. They are not part of any of the three Schools- they flunked the admission test. Because the Black Brother exalts the ego, and thus allows him/herself to accept only a limited amount of light, they may work for the Black Lodge's goals.


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Does the male remind you of any political leader?

The question reminds me of the behavior of personality cultists, twitter bots and their puerile propaganda slaves. Useful idiots to the Black Lodge.
Are you a useful idiot for the Black Lodge, @dom?

Moonchild had lots to say about the Black Lodge

About displays of inhumanity, lack of empathy or understanding and opposed to the uniting of diversity through the expression of love.

The very earliest steps in such thoroughgoing sorcery as Douglas practised require the student to deform and mutilate his humanity by accustoming himself to such moral crimes as render their perpetrator callous and insensible to all such emotions as men naturally cherish; in particular, love.
The Black Lodge put all its members through regular practices of cruelty and meanness

Integrity only used as a facade that doesn't go beyond serving their own interests.

Needless are oaths in the Black Lodge; honour being the first thing discarded, their only use is to frighten fools.

A natural occurrence in the Lodge from the distrust. Perhaps not a literal murder.

it was obligatory to commit a murder in cold blood, and to place the proofs of it in the hands of Douglas. Thus each step in sorcery is also a step in slavery; and that any man should put such power in the hands of another, no matter for what hope of gain, is one of the mysteries of perverse psychology.

Oh, such sordid blasphemy against the fertility and ecstasy Dionysius!

they must drink unfermented grape-juice -- the vilest of all black magical concoctions, for it implies the denial of the divine beatitude, and affirms God to be a thing of wood.


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