A worrisome presence menacing the precarious safety of the communal herd identity outside the 1920s 1930s time period, has on the situation, been attributed as a crazy myth.
A worrisome presence menacing the precarious safety of the communal herd identity outside the 1920s 1930s time period, has on the situation, been attributed as a crazy myth.
Any chance you could start being coherent instead of hiding behind this front of the white-eyeballed Master in Carradine's Kung Fu series?
Back to Fascism, is it relevant to the AC forum? Well yeah it's psychological and in my opinion The Old Aeon is about the social poisoning of the human psyche and body, Crolwey and Fascism were a botched attempt to resolve the issue(s).
Any chance you could start being coherent instead of hiding behind this front of the white-eyeballed Master in Carradine's Kung Fu series?
What? He is perfectly coherent. Anybody who speaks the lingo can understand his point, points, and pointers.
You know, the biggest problem with mental illness is the one where the mentally ill don't realize their illness and mentally think they are doing just fine.
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Back to Fascism, is it relevant to the AC forum?
If you say so. But resurrecting a year-old thread in order to start the political bickering again is to set one's self up as both the pot and the kettle.
A worrisome presence menacing the precarious safety of the communal herd identity outside the 1920s 1930s time period, has on the situation, been attributed as a crazy myth.
If you say so. But resurrecting a year-old thread in order to start the political bickering again is to set one's self up as both the pot and the kettle.
No. Sorry. But if you don't know the secret code, then I am obliged to conform to my terrifying Oath of Silence in such matters. You have already been given enough information to contact the secret chiefs directly, but instead you fiddle around over misunderstandings.
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You're right let's talk about Atlantis instead.
No, you're right. It's talk about controversial subjects that are ripping countries apart (Atlantis?), causing those disgusting social media sites to close accounts and impose censorship, and creating mental disturbances in governments and protesters alike all over the place including our own inner sanctums. And you want to drag that disturbance in here?
Now lookit here. In the past few days you have either earned common sense advice from, or gone out of your way to pick a fight with, almost every regular poster here. Does that not register in your feedback mechanisms? You seem to be at eternal war with every one and every thing, except your own thoughts on any given subject in any given moment, subject to sudden reversals.
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Sheesh.
There are also charges of flippancy pending before The Grand Tribunal in the Sky, and I didn't bring them to the court. Not to open the barnyard mouth, but have you considered some sort of professional counseling for your erratic but consistently-demonstrated condition? It seems to be "on" full-time right now.
Are you some sort of comic agent provocateur sent in to mix the planes and set dissent afire?
“We couldn't all be cowboys, So some of us are clowns. And some of us are dancers on the midway. We roam from town to town. I hope that everybody can find a little flame. Me, I say my prayers, Then I just light myself on fire, And I walk out on the wire once again.”
Not at all. We should merely banish before we write.
We all know what's going on out there. It is universal dissent. The tipping point between, um, aeons is fast approaching. Maybe it's just another false start. Whatever, it is filled with confusion and uncertainty. There is no need to bring that dilemma in here when you can get it full-face on any exoteric blabbing site ... or at least you could before the digital police moved in.
This is the AC Society. The society's members, in general, seem to agree that AC shifted around in his opinions that were extended into the gov. "Is there a gov? I'm a'gin it!" he wrote. Then he thought Hitler might be the guy to promote his paradigm. So, you see, we must, by injunction from the profit himself, discard AC's opinions, or "What would Crowley thinks," as being opposites. We are injuncted to find what diverse systems have in common.
Having found the commonality, To Mega Therion banned newspapers from Cefalu, the prototype of the coming age. So I suppose I'm on his side. But then I'm no longer a player. I'm just one of those peasants who idly watch as first one, then another, conquering army marches past by field. In fact, I am so far removed that we don't even have armies marching by ... or even hanging out in any town nearby.
I will continue to remind everyone that the most prelimary injunction injuncted to aid perception of the primary path of liberation (from the mind) is to discount differences of opinion between opposing forces, and to take closer note of what they have in common.
If anyone feels the need to be more of a player, then let them march to the voting place, or at least mail their ballot in. If that's not enough, then pick up your stick and go out onto the streets and join the protest that your "Will" indicates. I will not stop you, nor will I encourage you. That's your decision and you may live or die by it. Of course, martyrdom will stop the game ... for you (anyone).
We are injuncted to expend whatever energy is necessary to maintain our vehicle and our hovel, and to devote all remaing hours to the great work. "Only those who go for broke [in this regard] make it to the highest levels." - Mr White (quote/unquote).
Shall I cut some slack for the part-timers who are partying their way?
Never!
"Never say Never!" is a maxim of mine. So I must convey my Never to Neverland, where it rests apart from the so-called external reality.
This is not true. I, the weakling wimp (but crafty beyond belief) of Birmingham Junior High School), went out and became a cowboy. After that, in Oriental Medical School, where I was both the Dean and a frequent classroom and clinical instructor, I was told by the president, "The students call you The Cowboy." How embarrassing, but true.
I believe this was due to the boots and the belt. But I didn't pack my pistol (it stayed in my briefcase) and I didn't wear stupid cowboys shirts or a cowpoke hat. I might have worn jeans instead of pressed slacks, but everybody dressed causally - except for the male Chinese teachers, who were coat-and-tie all the time.
I really intended to communicate the idea that we all have different roles, not so much the idea of limitation. But the song was already written that way.
I’m thinking about what you’ve said to Dom.
There seem to me to be two brands of Thelema in the United States, and they line up with not only U.S. political divisions but also with more Nuit alignment versus more Hadit alignment.
And you can justify just about *anything* based on more Hadit alignment by the way.
In my opinion, the absolute contradiction between the two can only be resolved in an individual’s personal will. There is no standard that can be applied to all Thelemites.
As a result, I think some ideologies I personally despise have every right to consider themselves Thelemic.
I’m not certain the Beast would have agreed with me based on some of his political discourse. Very many people don’t agree with me.
I think some ideologies I personally despise have every right to consider themselves Thelemic.
Oh, perhaps you have confused me with being a Thelemite. I gave all that up on April 9, 1984. Not because I chose that date, but (in retrospect) that was the date arranged by other factors.
Please note that is not a Thelemic site - by definition of the owner.
On the other hand, I caught the drift of your quote the first time.
Individuals have the right to say want they want. Other individuals have the right to calm them down when they begin to sow disorder. I know all about the type under review. I have written about it a few times, somewhere in my works. Some of us (the various types) have a screw or two loose in the reality department. Every person of responsible wisdom I have ever known knows about the types, and they do not ever let them be "in charge" of an operation. They may tolerate them, but they are "high maintenance" problems.
Live and let live is a great aphorism. Yet when a live-wire liver comes into one's field of perception, then one has to deal with it, in one way or another.
Oh, perhaps you have confused me with being a Thelemite. I gave all that up on April 9, 1984.
My Anima informed me in my dreams that my old religion was dead in me and asked me what I wanted her to enliven next. I chose Thelema.
There’s always something that rubs me wrong - something Crowley said or how impossible it seems to justify to intimates. But when the really hard stuff happens, it’s the Law that echoes in my mind.
That was just for insight. Here’s the rest:
I’ll rephrase my question to you and anyone else who is familiar with Crowley’s writings because I am not:
Based on Crowley’s writings, how do you think he would have responded to what I said earlier?
Based on Crowley’s writings, how do you think he would have responded to what I said earlier?
Oh, that's one of those What would Crowley think or Do questions. I think I denounced that useless exercise recently, so I\m not qualified to venture my guess.
Based on Crowley’s writings, how do you think he would have responded to what I said earlier?
Oh, that's one of those What would Crowley think or Do questions. I think I denounced that useless exercise recently, so I\m not qualified to venture my guess.
Yes Crowley banning newspapers in Cefalu. Either noble repulsion of the gutter press......or not wanting the disciples to read the bad press about him?
Religion serves as the graphic user interface for the psyche. For example, Apple may have different icons and superficial organization (religion) than PC or Android, but they are simply tools for interacting with the binary machine language of a computer (the psyche).
It aids in management of emotions and psychological stressors.
It gives a means of relating emotionally to the Self and its facets.
It can provide a sense of meaning to life.
Having said all that, you must realize that my understanding of my religion does not involve blind faith or naiveté. Instead it is the conscious selection of a symbol set that resonates deeply in my own psyche and demonstrates the breadth and complexity to represent reality and my psychological relationship to it in its fullness.
Religion serves as the graphic user interface for the psyche. For example, Apple may have different icons and superficial organization (religion) than PC or Android, but they are simply tools for interacting with the binary machine language of a computer (the psyche).
Re the OP I define 'Fascism' as reactionary tendencies in people i.e. a rigid dismissal of any movement that confronts human miseries and aspires for a more equitable distribution of wealth with all that that term involves. It's an irrational emotional impulse. Where does it come from?
Either noble repulsion of the gutter press......or not wanting the disciples to read the bad press about him?
On a larger scale, it would be to "banish" outside influences that influence the mind and hinder the work (that is supposed to be underway in a prototype community).
Religion serves as the graphic user interface for the psyche. For example, Apple may have different icons and superficial organization (religion) than PC or Android, but they are simply tools for interacting with the binary machine language of a computer (the psyche).
Sounds a bit mechanical...but anyway....
Meh. It’s an analogy presented as part of a rational defense. The life is in the interaction.
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It aids in management of emotions and psychological stressors.
"It"? I'd say that you determine that.
I said “It aids.” It aids me. It is a chosen means, or perhaps more correctly, a means chosen by my inherent nature.
Yes Crowley banning newspapers in Cefalu. Either noble repulsion of the gutter press......or not wanting the disciples to read the bad press about him?
Why should it be a case of "either/or" and not both - since they are not mutually exclusive at all?
On a larger scale, it would be to "banish" outside influences that influence the mind and hinder the work (that is supposed to be underway in a prototype community).
Yes, on a larger scale. AC also remarked there was a "first class library" at the Abbey (presumably he meant his own collection of books that he carted around with him), which the inhabitants would be able to benefit more from, instead of their reading examples of ur-tabloidism.
I think that now covers all of the bases which might have been behind his banning?
Why should it be a case of "either/or" and not both
I would go a step further and say "all." Banishing is not an act to get rid of eveil forces, it is designed to get rid of all forces/concepts. This, on the physical plane, we lock the gate, electrify the fence, bar the door, turn of the tv or radio, put the computer to sleep, smash (!) the stupid smartphone, grind up the gps component, then burn the newspapers and mail in a large censer as part of the massive Mass of the Phoenix.
ALL of it has to be silenced. One needs to create a perfect vacuum, into which the "higher vibe" may descend. One needs to create an empty mind into which the Voice of the Silence may speak.
I would go a step further and say "all." Banishing is not an act to get rid of eveil forces, it is designed to get rid of all forces/concepts. This, on the physical plane, we lock the gate, electrify the fence, bar the door, turn of the tv or radio, put the computer to sleep, smash (!) the stupid smartphone, grind up the gps component, then burn the newspapers and mail in a large censer as part of the massive Mass of the Phoenix.
ALL of it has to be silenced. One needs to create a perfect vacuum, into which the "higher vibe" may descend. One needs to create an empty mind into which the Voice of the Silence may speak.
Yeah if Cefalu was happening now then mobile phones would be confiscated.
Yeah if Cefalu was happening now then mobile phones would be confiscated.
Yea, yea, and thrice yea: being very small these days, they would be easy to hide and could possibly even be concealed away in bodily orifices. (If one was sufficiently eager to 'keep one's finger on the pulse' that is. Betty May would probably have been (be?) OK).
"Who" what? "Who is speaking?" Is that your inquiry? We have multiple testimonies from living people, not dead authors" who describe a non-verbal communication that is understood.
"The mystical self and the mystical not-self get together in a chat room, and one is aware that this is going on simultaneously within the conscious mind. It is called The Secondary Clear Light. To get into this groove requires a certain capacity for conceptual lucidity."
"Who" what? "Who is speaking?" Is that your inquiry? We have multiple testimonies from living people, not dead authors" who describe a non-verbal communication that is understood.
If the "Voice of the Silence" were to speak, and give utterance to actual words - or signal noise with some semblance of meaning - I imagine it would be some sort of ultimate existential enquiry such as this (=along the generalised lines of "to be or not to be?" and "who am I & what shall be the sign?").
It might just as well have been saying "Oo-er" also - I did say it was a rough translation; and there was a bad connection on the 'line' at the same time too...
(Also my remark was not intended to have been taken straight with 100% seriosity).
along the generalised lines of "to be or not to be?" and "who am I & what shall be the sign?"
No. These things are all reactions to opposites. The linear mind, at this point, is approaching Da'ath (or Paroketh at the next level down), and that mind senses De'ath, and it enters the "bargaining stage." Upon surrendering this Horus-struggle, one enters the Eye of the Needle, mentioned elsewhere, and beholds the "no difference" configuration ... before passing on to the other side of the equation.
In The Secondary Clear Light experience, the Light is clearly in charge. Instructions are being issued, decisions demanded. The conscious twit is not asking about "who am i?"
The "To Be or Not" question does, however, come into play ... sometimes.
or communicate to an "empty mind", or is it ultimately just (wordlessly) Silent as well?
The dialog is crystal clear. Instructions are issued, just like you (anyone) are a captain called in to report to the Geberal himself for orders. The words are delivered in plain, flat, unaccented middle-American English without twang or lisp. I will grant you the idea that a Brit might catch the song with an Englisgman's emphasis on the pronoun-ciation, and a Mexican might hear "i"s inflected as "ee"s - because that's the way they pronounce things. I guess the accent is variable according to the bent of the hearer's dialect.
Now look, I have a problem here. I cannot decide. You are asking detailed questions about telepathic communication that anyone who has experienced such comm would not be asking. So, my problem lies in deciphering whether you are playing the Devil's Advocate (his attorney, I guess), or whether you are devoid of such experiences. I would throe a I Ching if I had one, and I'm too busy to get out the cards and sort them, and I don't thrust astrology, so where does that leave me?
This is the final catalytic reaction. Before all this stage we can thank-blame the failure of the Marxists to understand the Old Aeon. For example Europe could have been swamped in revolution during World War One, there were mutinous soldiers all over the place, massive strikes, appalling housing conditions and very very low wages were the norm. Most of the working people were protesting for radical changes.
As for now in America ...... Make America Great Again....an attempt to stir up some notion of a Mythic Past right there. The Old Aeon is very much entrenched....still.
... Last time I checked though, I don't think you're in the position of being Head Judge here to have to decide. So, it's nothing for anybody (including your good self) to worry or get worked up about.
... Last time I checked though, I don't think you're in the position of being Head Judge here to have to decide.
I mentioned my self, "I." I did not even hint as to making a decision for anyone else. Sometimes I assume a haughty persona, as a gesture of making fun of the puffed-up potentate. Sometimes I assume the position of an incompent wretch, in order to make fun of stupid people, but at no point do I become Head Judge, except when I'm dealing with matters that involve me.
Well up until last week, weren't you terribly busy spending your time writing & publicising your Hot Zones book which you have now um, finished?
Huh? Hot Zones was a publication, which is finished, three copies arrived by FedEx today - very nice, but it was/is not a tool of divination for solving the mystery ...
So, my problem lies in deciphering whether you are playing the Devil's Advocate (his attorney, I guess), or whether you are devoid of such experiences.
The tone of your entire post tends towards an interrogation into who's in charge and what I'm busy doing, which is pretty petty stuff, isn't it?
And all this because I wondered if you were playing Devil's Advocate, which is a shifty part to play, worthy of district attorneys and newsmen ... or ... you have not engaged in the telepathic dialog. You see, the tone of your inquiries is such that they ring of an attempt to undermine certain concepts that I have experienced and know to be true.
You are falling behind the curve of current quantum reality, and I am so dreadfully disturbed that you, of all people, who has so few of my books, failed to grasp a seven-day window of opportunity to get the latest and last publication for free, that I am considering re-posting it just for your benefit, even if it takes 3 hours to upload like it did the first time.
I mentioned my self, "I." I did not even hint as to making a decision for anyone else. Sometimes I assume a haughty persona, as a gesture of making fun of the puffed-up potentate. Sometimes I assume the position of an incompent wretch, in order to make fun of stupid people ...
The tone of your entire post tends towards an interrogation into who's in charge and what I'm busy doing, which is pretty petty stuff, isn't it? ...
You see, the tone of your inquiries is such that they ring of an attempt to undermine certain concepts that I have experienced and know to be true.
Not so at all, I don't know where you could have got that from. Sometimes it seems you are the one who wants to be "pretty" "petty" and say the other person (in this case me) must be wrong, as if there isn't room enough in the universe for us both to be right (say).
but it was/is not a tool of divination for solving the mystery ...
And all this because I wondered if you were playing Devil's Advocate, which is a shifty part to play, worthy of district attorneys and newsmen ... or ... you have not engaged in the telepathic dialog.
If you're not sure, can't tell and really want to know where I'm coming from I suggest you make time (for a divination, coins, cards or whatever) so that whatever is "higher" to both of us can fill you in.
Wasn't the Horus Toy® [batteries not included] supposed to be available by end of 2020?
There were two (2) books slated to be on our plates by the end of 2020. You a correct. But then, at the end of his last extravaganza, he reported some other thing had intervened and all production projections were off.
I think we were expected to sit through another book about Thelema, then the second book was supposed to reveal The Horus toy(TM) and that might cause the end of the world if it got into the hands of nitwits like us.
