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Egypt: Hidden corridor in Great Pyramid of Giza seen for first time

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Yeah!  I read that in the Daily Mail this morning.  Believe it or not, there was a rumor of a hidden chamber or tunnel located just above the main shaft before this discovery.  Everybody has their own theories about why the pyramids were built.  Of course, the consensus is that they were tombs.  The three main pyramids correspond to Orion's Belt.  My theory is that they were originally built as giant granaries.  Wheat=flour=bread=the sustaining, life giving force for the populace. The Pharoah, the living embodiment of Osiris=Life Force.


   
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Dwtw

I love the CBS news headline:

Cosmic rays help reveal corridor hidden in Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza

Because, you know, capturing cosmic rays was the point of them all along 😉

 

Litllwtw

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@toadstoolwe When Imhotep intended to use the pyramids as colossal granaries of wheat, someone must have pointed out a bit of a design fault: these gigantic pyramids could only contain a bucket and a half of rancid wheat.

Rameses and Imhotep put their wheat somewhere in their granaries, and hopefully they could utilize cosmic rays to find out where this grain had been hidden inside these mindbogglingly big silos.


   
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When Imhotep intended to use the pyramids as colossal granaries of wheat, someone must have pointed out a bit of a design fault: these gigantic pyramids could only contain a bucket and a half of rancid wheat.

 

I am not going to try to bamboozle anyone by overwhelming the reader with measurements, and other statistical data that fringe "Egyptologists" use to try and prove their unorthodox theories.  That information is already very accessible.  I am going by the concept of "form and function".  There had to be a practical application to the pyramids beyond their obvious religious and mythological beliefs.  You say that only a bucket of "rancid" wheat could be practically stored in the shafts and chambers.  Care to tell me why you believe that?  Wouldn't feeding a huge army of workers and craftsmen (As well as civilians, women and children) require a monumental storage and processing facility to store grain?  Given the arid temperatures of that region, I think grain could be stored and preserved.  During the turn of the 20th century, the idea of  "mummy wheat" became popular as grains of wheat were found among the offerings to the dead.  It was theorized at the time that the "Mummy seeds" could germinate even after several thousand years.  It was quickly disproven.  Just another "Fad" idea from the Egyptomania of that era.  However, the importance of wheat and bread as a life-giving staple is ancient and significant "Give us this day our daily bread" could just as easily been a prayer that even the Egyptians would appreciate.

My other assertion as to believing that the Pyramids were NOT primarily used as tombs is the utter lack of any written or pictorial images common to all hitherto discovered tombs.  No pyramid texts, no iconography, no written spells for the afterlife.  The person entombed would have had to have a fantastic memory to be able to recite prayers and spells without convenient "Cheat sheets"  being available.


   
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"No pyramid texts?"  Man did I put my foot in my mouth on that one!  Well, just put me in the woodshed for sheer stupidity and hubris.  


   
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Believe me, we have come to expect nothing less from you.

if you really want to surprise folks, post well-written stuff, that displays knowledge of the topic discussed, and some original thought, with  few grammar, spelling, usage, and format issues, and with sources cited as clickable links.

Probably a good idea to re-read the forum guidelines too.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

The person entombed would have had to have a fantastic memory to be able to recite prayers and spells without convenient "Cheat sheets"  being available.

Good Lord, man.

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and some original thought

Good Lord, man.

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with  few grammar, spelling, usage, and format issues

You go too far.

 


   
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Posted by: @ignant666

if you really want to surprise folks, post well-written stuff, that displays knowledge of the topic discussed, and some original thought, with  few grammar, spelling, usage, and format issues, and with sources cited as clickable links.

 

Sorry dude, but my spelling, grammar, usage is impeccable.  As far everything else, that's your opinion and you are welcome to it.  As far as original thought, no such animal.  Chances are someone else thought of it before you did.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

[M]y spelling, grammar, [and] usage [are] impeccable.

Har-dee-fuckin'-har-har-har! Funny stuff! Comedy gold.

I don't think that any regular here (besides you) would dispute that you are the laziest, sloppiest poster to turn up around here in years, and one of the most low-effort posters here that i have ever seen in 20-ish years (lurked for the years before i joined up). Currently a bit indisposed, but when back to zero, happy to dig out and link to a dozen examples of you getting called on lazy, sloppy, low-effort posting and apologizing for your sins.

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As far as original thought, no such animal. 

Not a bit surprised to learn that you think that this is so.

 


   
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@ignant666 I live to assume you oh mighty Iggy666!  If I can bring a smile to your otherwise dreary existence, I'm glad to it.  Sloppy? Lazy? Low effort? That's what my seventh-grade teacher said (Ah memories!) 

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Not a bit surprised to learn that you think that this is so.

If you can show a truly "Original" concept that hasn't been thought of before, I'll eat my hat.

 


   
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"Assume" is not how you spell "amuse".

Still can't figure out how to quote either.

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That's what my seventh-grade teacher said

She (or he) was right.


   
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@ignant666 Just living up to my incredibility high standards for posting.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

incredibility high standards

The hits just keep on coming.


   
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@ignant666 I's got incredibility  Massa!


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

As far as original thought, no such animal. 

See? I knew Ignant went too far ... asking the impossible from an impeccable poster who has formatting issues and inserts extra lines unto infinity.

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As far as original thought, no such animal. 

Ignant responds ... Not a bit surprised to learn that you think that this is so.

Yes, it is true, all the thoughts have been thought, and then they are recycled through succeeding generations. However, this concept must not be used as an excuse for being a parrot.

Original thought - in this case - means one has their own gnosed ideas that they express without parroting other people, who may (or not) be correct on anything.

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If I can bring a smile to your otherwise dreary existence

Off-topic distractive demeaning chatter is now offered as a cover up for coming too far out of the woodshed, thus earning the epithet ...

Please do not Feed the Troll

 


   
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@shiva Technically I am not a troll.  I am a Nibelungen Dwarf.  Nevertheless, you should not feed me.


   
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Technically I am not a troll.

We went over that and established, in writing now permanently stored into The Akaskic Record vault, the absolute primordial fact that I sort of believe you are not a classical troll. You are not here to trick people into starting fights so you can revile them with demeaning damnation.

No, you are here to join in the drunken revelry and dancing in The Night of Pan (demic). The problem is, in the drunken revelry, you seem to get into fights and resort to demeaning damnation, or other degrading frivolities.

 


   
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@shiva I admit it, I'm a mean drunk.  Tis my Irish heritage me lad!  Have a great St. Patrick's Day, the saint who chased the snake-worshippers away from the Emerald Isle.


   
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I admit it, I'm a mean drunk.

Yes, yes. Alc has to potential to turn folks into angry loud antagonist OR into a withdrawn antisocial fugue. This all has to do with your (anyone's) 2nd circuit imprint.

If you get mean (around here), there will be many days in the woodhouse, with the outhouse and the tank in reserve.

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my Irish heritage me lad! 

Please do not introduce racial configuration claims, slurs, or excuses. If you get mean in person (not over the etheric net or on the phone), it can get painful, with large doctor repair bills.

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Patrick

He was a cool dude. He fought the dark forces, and won. Or, at least that's the tale we've been sold. I wasn't there for that one, so I must recuse myself as a credible witness, saying ...

Thischannel is dedicated to musings and music about The Great Pyramid of/at/on Giza. I would tell you about the practical aspects of the Pyr and its form, but so busy, and maybe later ... if and when this retread returns to the topic ...

 


   
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Thischannel is dedicated to musings and music about The Great Pyramid of/at/on Giza. I would tell you about the practical aspects of the Pyr and its form, but so busy, and maybe later ... if and when this retread returns to the topic ...

 

I have pretty told you all I can about the Great Pyramid at Giza.  It is an amazing place on so many different levels.  My Grainery theory got shot out of the water, mostly because I didn't take a few seconds to Google Pyramid texts.  I've read theories that it was a "launching pad" for the soul of the King to take an express train to Sirius.  So, we are back on point. Tell me about the practical aspects of the Pyramid and it's form.  If not a grainary, then what was it for?


   
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Ummmm, a tomb, maybe?


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

I have pretty told you all I can about the Great Pyramid at Giza.

I see.

Does this imply that you are an expert, or something ... even though you are citing other people's theories? Since you actually went there, we will give you one (1) credit for an Adventurous Expedition.

Did you know that many of us have been studying the Pyr for decades? Including the "sacred" (oh, please) measurements, the energetic effect, miniaturization and applications in the home and one's body, various ages of the structure, etc.

Further studies include sites like  Teotihuacan, Palenque, Xian, and assorted underwater venues (with megaliths).

There are the Orion-astro configuration, the extraterrestrial builder concept, and the Anunnaki builder theory.

You have "told us what you can," but you have barely scratched the surface. C'mon, you must have more secrets to reveal ...

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Tell me about the practical aspects of the Pyramid ...

You can either use the SEARCH function, which works, but weirdly, and I'll bet you never find it. I revealed this/these secrets years ago, here in the catacombs. As stated, I'm rather busy at the here-now junction ... maybe a bit later.


   
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Does this imply that you are an expert, or something ... even though you are citing other people's theories? Since you actually went there, we will give you one (1) credit for an Adventurous Expedition.

 

No, I am just telling you what I experienced at the Great Pyramid.  I have read and watched the same stuff you have about the Pyramids and their possible significance.  Sure, I am citing other people's theories, but so are you.

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Further studies include sites like  Teotihuacan, Palenque, Xian, and assorted underwater venues (with megaliths).

I have been to Belize and Guatemala and visited Mayan ruins and pyramids.  Chances are they were observatories Since the Mayan religion was focused on the stars and planets both for agriculture and astrology. And planning for war, and human sacrifice.

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There are the Orion-astro configuration, the extraterrestrial builder concept, and the Anunnaki builder theory.

Yes, the so-called Orion shaft.  All intriguing theories and thought experiments.

 


   
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@ignant666 I will concede to popular opinion.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

No, I am just telling you what I experienced at the Great Pyramid

You experienced a Grain Silo ?

If you are having trouble differentiating between your experiences and other people's ideas, there is hope and help in other spellings.

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I am citing other people's theories, but so are you.

I am not citing theories, I posted the first post as a quote of a thing (an accomplishment), not an idea. I have been going along for the ride ... as you cite fact after fact after fiction after fact after an account of your trip, which is, as Ignant would put it, an "original breakthrough.

I am withholding the practical application of pyrams due to time restraints and time compression at tax time. Jesus said to pay your taxes.

I submitted a list of other people's ideas in response to your notion of having told us everything ... when, surely, you have a few loose unmentioned secret thoughts.

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I have been to Belize and Guatemala and visited Mayan ruins and pyramids.

Me, too. I have 8mm films of the expeditions, thus earning 3x Reward Points. Wanna see one?

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Chances are they were observatories

Speculation. What odds on the "chances" are you giving ?

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the so-called Orion shaft.  All intriguing theories and thought experiments.

You have suddenly relapsed several days into the past in terms of your dormatting skills ,,, just when you were doing better. But Learning Curves are usually not smooth slopes. Did you ever climb a mountain? Even a small one?

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I will concede to popular opinion.

About what? The context is missing. There are only 3-5 posters here - what math or QBL constitutes "popular" ?


   
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You experienced a Grain Silo ?

 

I am just speculating.  Why couldn't the pyramid serve a dual purpose?  A tomb and a grain elevator?  Both grain (bread, beer) were staples of the Ancient Egyptians.  Couldn't the life-giving power of the interred royalty assure everlasting life? 

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I am withholding the practical application of pyrams due to time restraints and time compression at tax time. Jesus said to pay your taxes.

 

I will await with patience.  I tried searching on the LAShTAL archive.  Is there a proper search term I can use? 

I was conceding to Ignant666's comment, "or Tombs...?"


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

A tomb and a grain elevator

It is/was neither of these. 

 


   
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@shiva By gosh, what were they?  Can you give me a condensed version?


   
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a condensed version?

Power focusers - same as in the do-it-yourself miniature at-home demonstration experiment.


   
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@shiva I looked up power focusers.  Does it have anything to do with optics or astronomy?  I am currently reading a book entitled Astral Magic in Babylon.   It discusses the concept of irradiation, that is exposing objects to the stars at night.  Were the pyramids being used as irradiation devices on a grand scale?


   
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Does it have anything to do with optics or astronomy? 

Probably both, but I am devoid of details that I can verify. Anybody can verify that the 3 Giz-pyres are a reflection of the 3 belt stars around Orion's waist, and that next door to the pyres is a sphinx, and next door to the belt is a Sirius dod-star.

So what?

I can verify that, back in the very early '70s, I read an article about pyramid energy. It said you can make a small pyramid out of heavy card stock - exactly cut and taped to the shape of the Giza prototype, but of course not as BIG. One foot square at the base. Wearing it as a hat will stimulate the pineal. Tin or aluminum foil not required - don't be stupid.

Placing worn items on a pedestal inside - at the level of the King's Chamber - will cause restoration (in some cases). Placement of fresh food will preserve the food.

So, is this true? Sounds pretty far-out, doesn't it? We ran the test(s). 

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Were the pyramids being used as irradiation devices on a grand scale?

I believe so, but have no data to say what kind of radiation, except as tested in our experiments.


   
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@shiva Does that mean my lifespan will increase due to my being inside the Great pyramid?  I also remember the Pyramid power fad of the 1970s, kind of like the "mood" rings that were somewhat popular.  But on a more serious note, could astral irradiation inspire the ancients to evolve in architecture?  Not saying "ancient astronauts" but a more subtle cosmic energy.  Remember the scene in 2001: A space Odyssey where the monolith accelerates the proto humans to discover tools?  Something like that.


   
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Does that mean my lifespan will increase due to my being inside the Great pyramid?

Possibly. Please consult a Metaphysical Quantum Physicist, or a Fortune-teller. Perhaps you can decide ... after I get finished with the Experiment and the Data. As follows ...

First ... when worn as a hat, it was supposed to cure headaches, eyestrain, neck pain ... Yeah, it was known (by us) to relieve some headaches.

2nd ... Obtain a double edged razor blade. Two people shave with it (control study - 2 smooth clean shaves as expected. Descend to basement. Hack the bare blade through the 6x6 posts that support the house - about a hundred times.

Two reshaves (scratchy - snagging - very bad).

Place blade in king's chamber for one week.

Come back. Two shaves (clean, smooth).

3rd test to follow ...

 


   
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@shiva According to the Borg Council of Absolute Truth, also known as Wikipedia, the Pyramid Power potential has been tested numerous times, finding that: razors will still be dull, food will still rot, and flowers will still wilt.  But the good news is, as I see it, are the numerous items of an organic nature, such as garlands of flowers, bread, and beer for the afterlife found to be plentiful in some Egyptian tombs.  This to me shows the universal power of FAITH and BELEIF.  That transcends mere materialist science.


   
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Wikipedia ... razors will still be dull, food will still rot, and flowers will still wilt.

After the blade-test, we inserted some rapidly spoilable food and waited a week ... the fodd had dried, but had not spoiled or molded.

Since I did these things with my own hands and eyes, I would say ...

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This to me shows the universal power of FAITH and BELEIF.  That transcends mere materialist science.

Right. The broblem being that FAITH and BELIEF are con-game instruments that live on the other side of the tracks from Thelema, or any  self-centered non-dual considerations.

 


   
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After the blade-test, we inserted some rapidly spoilable food and waited a week ... the fodd had dried, but had not spoiled or molded.

 

Interesting.  That brings me back to the loaves of bread found in tombs.  Further reading reveals that when Tutankhamun's tomb was opened, baskets full of dates, figs, melons and honey were discovered.  Obviously after thousands of years the food was probably very dry and shriveled. But it is still impressive that those foodstuffs survived at all.  Honey was found, and it was still edible after 3000 years.  So, there may be something to what you say. But I would point out that Tutankhamun's tomb was not in a pyramid.  However, Egyptian food preservation is still impressive.

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Right. The broblem being that FAITH and BELIEF are con-game instruments that live on the other side of the tracks from Thelema, or any  self-centered non-dual considerations.

 

I was referring to the Ancient Egyptians, and other early civilizations in that they had faith in the reality of their religion.  If they believed that their hieroglyphic spells and orations would bring everlasting life, then it was the truth that endured through the centuries, no doubt influencing all ascending religious thought.


   
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So, there may be something to what you say.

From my point of view, based on actual experience and not on what I say, or on Wikipedia or other erroneous Bovine Barnyard Droppings, I could get by on one blade for a lifetime.


   
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@shiva That is very impressive.


   
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