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Shiva
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13/07/2019 9:00 pm  

Let me start this exciting thread in "Stuff," as Lam is a valid Crowley icon, but ufos and directed energy weapons are not (as far as I know).

Crowley published th Lam drawing in the Blue Equinoc (1919?). He was decades ahead of modern visions or descriptions of "contacts." Have you ever compared Lam to Alien Autopsy? Here's your chance ...

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I fail to see why the IMG links won't post pictures. Two of them. Screw it - here's the direct link ... which may appear as picture or simply a link. As long as one of these become available, I stop fiddling with the Edit button, which may wipe everything out.

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http://conspirazine.blogspot.com/2010/07/monkeys-paw-interview-with-nonymous.html


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13/07/2019 9:19 pm  

The links now work. Click, compare, complain.


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13/07/2019 10:43 pm  

93!

While I totally think that "we are not alone" I have reservations about visiting Aliens that are more or less us, but with bloated heads and bellys, or a Conehead if you will. I mean, if they were like us, would we - having the spaceships ready - just float about mysteriously on other planets and examine/abduct some remote village persons? It makes very little sense. Especially doing it for decades without ever doing more. If it would be like this, they would lose the title of "advanced civilization" immediately in my regards.

But I agree that AC started a big "Alien look" trend.

Love=Law
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14/07/2019 12:20 am  

oh good lord Shiva;
what are you up to now ?

The best place to hide the truth is in plain sight.
Politicians break the news to the tabloids before it hits the courts.
The Black Psy OPs disguise themselves as aliens.
The Aliens shape shift into whatever mold needed at the moment and can even use a human that has no idea they are being used.

Say isn’t Lam one of those beings that emerged from another dimension, through a portal created by the magick experimentation, in an apartment he rented at Central Park West; and peered into the opening of the way ?
Which led him to capture its image and display it for others ?

Is this a time when the denial shield is more readily exposed ?


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14/07/2019 3:03 am  

T: Say isn’t Lam one of those beings that emerged from another dimension, through a portal created by the magick experimentation ...?

I know the picture of Lam well, as does anyone who has red The Blue Equinox. But I remember nothing about how Crowley contacted or drew him, except that it was in the USA. Thanks for filling in some of the details.


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14/07/2019 3:18 am  

Ignore the spaces this was typed in Notepad. My old friend.

This will sound extremely insane to most people.

I have had many contacts with 'Others' ie. non humans. But it

is not always a constant thing. In fact I am trying to bring

it back to learn some more things.

They have their own agenda and their own 'society' that we

haven't figured out yet.

I will just give you two tastes.

Both are from around 2008ish to 2010ish.

1. I was on a camping trip in the Great Sand Dunes of southern

Colorado. I had already read some of Chris O'brien's books

which are very well written and true.

I wasn't expecting anything anyway.

I was with a couple, ie a real couple, a man and a woman who I

had met in my graduate school studies.

He was/is an extremely materialistic scientist.

He called to me (who was pissing in the bushes or something.)

He called, 'Chris come here! This is weird!' So I ran to our

camp.
He pointed, there in the sky was what he said were like 'stars

fighting' They were moving exteremely fast and at right

angles. It didn't end for at least 5 minutes.

It was a weird battle in the sky.

What happened next to me, was a good study about human frailty

and fallacy. His brain totally shut down.

In real time:
He went from his above expression to: well that was weird.

That wasn't anything too strange though I bet it was comets.

then: I didn't see anything. It was just a shooting star.

I could see his 'computer' shutting down in real time .

So that was that.

I had another personal encounter myself all alone in the same

desert in that week. But it wasn't near so exciting.

2. I was in my parents old house. My dad had divorced my mom

some 2 years or so ago. We were living together in our old

large family house with too many rooms and my sister and her

husband were living in the furnished basement to help out for

a year or two as well.

I was getting into Kenneth Grant and really into meditation

and ritual for the first time in my life minus college (mostly

bahkti hindu worship and also 'tai chi' from a korean

perspective) .

I had spent a good week or so meditating in lotus position and

also sometimes staring at LAM painting (gary dickinson) for

'Contact' just because. Now I have a reason, learning. But

back then just HEY whats going to happen?

One night I had a very strange dream.

One of those dreams you never forget.

I was totally weighed down.

Totally like a piece of lead or iron stuck in the mud.

I awoke in the dream and I saw I was in the basement of an old

house. In dirt. Like Blair Witch but that was my old self

thinking about a film perhaps 10 years prior.
I was extremely intensely frightened so much that I couldn't

even turn around to see. But eventually I did and I saw a grey

alien there staring at me. The feeling of extreme heaviness

and fear woke me up. It was that harsh.

This is where it gets real. I don't mean dreaming but truly

real.
I think they visit you in dreams because they are not totally

physical.

I was so afraid I woke up.
I was afraid to turn around to my left side from the wall

because that's where the presence was in the dream and also in

my life.

I finally moved.

I was totally awake at this point.

I rolled over, and saw nothing but still felt that fear for a

second Then it went away. I got the sense in the dark (perhaps

2300 or midnight) that we all get when we are alone in the

dark and feel an actual real presence.

I stood up from the floor (back then korean style bed) and

walked towards my bedroom door.

I opened it and was just taken aback like shocked and not

moving.

At this point I am totally awake and aware, I can see

everything normally.

There is a 'thing' in front of me maybe 3 feet that looks like

a bunch of moving pixels. Like a weird kind of camouflage. I

get the sense and 'knowing' that this was the being that was

in my dream. I wasn't supposed to see it.

It saw me, (big bug eyes but also 'pseudo camoflaged') and let

out this weird as fuk noise like, all I can explain, a

'robotic cat' like 'meeeeoooou' and it literally jumped up

straight through our ceiling ( I was on the second floor)' and

disappeared.

One thing that makes me know this is real is that I went from

total heavy lead despairing fear (at the first initial contact

in the 'dream') , to when I saw it, total blank acceptance.

At that point it almost felt normal but I was just frozen with

the alien'ness of it all.

So those are my two major experiences.

Lately I have been doing some new meditations but I have been

getting different results which we can talk about later.


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14/07/2019 3:46 am  

The dream that realized it was dreaming
going;
believing it unreal.
Proven to be
a must of been;
just a shooting star;
strange stuff.
No need to disclose
and yet
the mysterious remains
going.


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14/07/2019 4:35 am  

I once venture or more than that ventured and treaded the path of Lam.
From vague recollection.
It seemed as if the portrait was rendered by a skilled hand.


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14/07/2019 8:12 am  

At the time the Lorber Society was purposing that our consciousness incarnated into different body forms on the planets of our Universe. Eg The Jupiter incarnation was one of all consciousness floating in a thinly contained membrane ( gas like). Have a past life experience of that life when I eat onions!


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14/07/2019 2:59 pm  

Christilibrany take your word wrap off in notepad - format/word wrap it stops pasted items from doing what you did
note pad is my best friend.. I learned to build websites in it using straight code. In the olden days there was no wordpress. I also use it to paste things from word and other programs to get rid of the extra codes ... it's a very versatile programs except it doesnt feckkin autosave

@tiger From vague recollection.
It seemed as if the portrait was rendered by a skilled hand.

nods .. help please with dates @michael Staley @jamie barter did LAM predate or post date lady Frieda painting the cards?
ooh wait it just came to me.. I think .. thanks Michael 😀 .. correct me if my flash was wrong.. Iam was 1931 cards were around 1938? if I recall she took four years to paint them, Aleister was a perfectionist and made her paint each card over and over until she got it right to how he wanted..
is it LAM with an eL or IAM with an eye... ?

LAM is in the thoth deck .... which I reveal here now for the first time.. this Amazing combination Mayet's Layers of Thoth The Combinations - 02-20 .. I lined her eyes up in both ..I'd love to publish my work with the layers in a book but i guess thats just ego and money things.. so much stuff is concealed that opens with my "ingenious" layering technique.. 😀 *insert May's happy dance here.. i figured that there was reasons why I taught myself the particular skills I learned throughout my life as a mum which I used in that other world before the moondays and it wasn't just to photoshop my head on the times square naked cowboy ... . though that was pretty funny...

Lam is very prominent with a bit of what would you call it study, mediation, focusing..

Heaps of experiences
also Christilibrany that heaviness sounds like what they label sleep paralysis .. it's scary stuff... and your not asleep when you can hear the blasted rooster crow

- in the week before my sister was killed OBE and Little lemony yellow orb - made me realize that there IS something else so wasn't afraid of death from that night. Helped me grieve somewhat.
- Same vortex suction sinking predating most level 1 stress events from then
-1992 or 1993 after volcanic eruption indonesia in the four corners of the sky blinking lights were traveling through section in a line, one would start and get to a certain point and another would start..
- Bright light over city hovered overhead the mountain we were meditating on after hovering a few minutes it suddenly split in three yellow shot off one way, red another and blue another .. the three sat on the horizon a while
- standing on balcony next to keith when a light came from the sky, went around me and slammed into his chest.. when it came close I could see it was a square with a cartoon kangaroo on it? like huh? a cartoon kangaroo? Keith dropped to the ground, winded the instant I saw it hit him .. when he recovered he said to me.. did you see the kangaroo..
- day napping, had a dream that was real I was inside someone else as they were being killed, I saw the guy that did it... I saw her talking to two guys in cars one red and one blue.. they left and the crazy guy followed her, ran up behind her and grabbed her .. I didnt feel her pain but I did feel her tormented scream ... scared crap out of me.. shook me really bad..
newspaper a week or so later spoke of the murder and said they were looking for a red and blue car.. my birth mother was friends with the head cop so she rang him and told him of my vision and that I said the blue and red cars left and when I described the guy that grabbed her he goes "ahh one of the river rats.. and I think i know which one you mean too.. river rats were guys living down at river from mental home..
- called outside by keith while i was at my computer in 95 or 96 as I walked out, everything turned off and shut down.I got out the front and he pointed up at two golden arrows one beside and just behind the "wing" of the other .. we watched them for a bit going south east from north west canberra direction..(this was before stealth planes that I now see are shaped similar) I wished that my bestie mel who was over a few hills away could see it and said that to keith.. when it disappeared over the horizon the lights instantly all turned back on in the house.. next morning Mel rang me and said wtf did you do to me last night .. I was like huh.. and she said she heard my voice calling her name and she was in bed but looked up and saw these two arrows in the sky.. she often mentions that to me as one of those WTF moments in life..when we reminisce about our candelo days on the farms my farm was Greenmount I laugh when I see thoth sun card description about the children playing on a green mount vert..... my current rental farm is Belmont the mount of the bell .. not sure how long, its for sale and I do not want to move EVER.

I think the most bizarre one.. no it wasn't the most bizarre actually .. my life is bizarre....
Live in a house with a crop circle in the yard .. well thats what we called it.. nothing ever grew in that one circle.. it's still there according to google earth.. the crop circle I mean.. I often wonder if the residents notice it and think anything weird about it..

these photos were taken just outside the crop circle ... I was playing with D1's cam outside at sunset 15th October 2005 I pointed to the east at rising moon... then turned around to capture the pinks on the mountains I took a few western ones and as I put the cam down I saw the shot on the cam screen .. I didn't see it when I took the shot ... so I picked it back up and took about 20 more shots all over to see if I could capture the same thing .. ran inside to computer and it was the only one.. you can see the rays from it so it wasn't dirt on the cam.. friend in america asked for the shot and he blew it up and he said it was def not cam fault def external and it had what he called a hexagram shape..

man that thing must of moved fast. I did not see it.. only on the digital camera preview screen

heaps of other weird and wonderfuls...nowadays some spectacular ones.. but that's enough waffle to digest today


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14/07/2019 4:47 pm  

“ Behold! the Veil of the Aethyr sundereth, and is torn, like a sail by the breath of the tempest…

The Seer prayeth that a cloud may come between him and the sun, so that he may shut out the terror of the vision. And he is afire; he is terribly athirst; and no help can come to him, for the shew-stone blazeth ever with the fury and the torment and the blackness, and the stench of human flesh. The bowels of little children are torn out and thrust into his mouth, and a poison is dropped into his eyes. And Lilith, a black monkey crawling with filth, running with open sores, an eye torn out, eaten of worms, her teeth rotten, her nose eaten away, her mouth a putrid mass of green slime, her dugs dropping and cancerous, clings to him, kisses him.

(Kill me! kill me!)

There is a mocking voice: Thou art become immortal. Thou wouldst look upon the face of the Magician and thou hast not beheld him because of his Magick veils.

(Don't torture me!)

The shew-stone is all black and corrupt. O filth! filth! filth!

She it is that squatteth upon the Crucifix, for the nastiness of her pleasure. So that they that worship Christ suck up her filth upon their tongues, and therefore their breaths stink.

Thus long have I talked with thee in bidding thee depart, that the memory of the Aethyr might be dulled; for hadst thou come back suddenly into thy mortal frame, thou hadst fallen into madness or death. For the vision is not such that any may endure it.

But now thy sense is dull, and the shew-stone but a stone. Therefore awake, and give secretly and apart the sign of the Mother, and call four times upon the name of CHAOS, that is the four-fold word that is equal to her seven-fold word. And then shalt thou purify thyself, and return into the World. “
The Cry of the 3rd Aethyr, Which is Called ZON
https://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/418/aetyr3.htm

1929
“ Lam is the Tibetan word for Way or Path, and Lama is He who Goeth,
the specific title of the Gods of Egipt, the Treader of the Path,
in Buddhistic phraseology. Its numerical value is 71, the number of
this book. “
http://www.the-equinox.org/vol3/eqv3n1/LIBER71/lib71a.htm


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Shiva
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14/07/2019 5:03 pm  

m: Iam was 1931 cards were around 1938?

The Lam picture was included in the 1919 Blue Equinox.

Various dates (years) are mentioned in posts (above).

"The Blue Equinox, officially known as The Equinox: Volume III, Number I, is a book written by the English occultist Aleister Crowley, the founder of Thelema. First published in 1919 ..." - Wikipedia


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14/07/2019 5:48 pm  

ok I just keep thinking that LAM/IAM had something to do with 1931, something for me to study and search sometime.

speaking of blue and my aqua fixation arising from Aqua 4 written by Keith The priestess brings out a beautiful aqua in the mirror

https://www.mayet.com.au/02-20-the-priestess-of-the-aeon/

also I swear the Priestess Reflection and adjustment of the balance and I'm not one to see penises in coca cola ads .. kinda does look like a vulva opening out like a flower from the conception, birth, reflection of the universe.. also Im an aussie and I swear a lot..also on the page on my site of this with the outside of the card included.. there is awesome infinity 8 joining them together.

The image I posted before of the priestess of the Aeon.. I have on my wall here and I usually step back 3 feet, LAMIAM becomes clear and then glows, so much going on there 😀 .. visually "Layers of Thoth" I see it in the little old fashioned hand held mirror like the one in snow white ..

@tiger.. gosh he makes it so dire .. 😀 such a male perspective and such a christian premise.. nature is as nature does... it pees poops farts and finds out that gravity sux just like the pope does ...
madness? who isn't mad? You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you... Death? it's groundhog day.. 😀


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14/07/2019 7:16 pm  

m: [to Tiger] such a male perspective and such a christian premise.

Yes, Tiger is a Christian misogynist. Oh, wait. I see that you must be referencing "Tiger Woods," the golf-player. Surely not our LAShTAL Tiger. He's just mad.

m: madness? who isn’t mad?

(raises hand). Me.

I'm just suffering from lost brain cells and mis-wired synapses. This doesn't result in "being mad," 'cause actually it is more peaceful. It was the Void that stole my brain cells and re-wired my madness. I recommend the Void. Any comments about the Void are untrue, so ...

Back to Lam and the Alien Autopsy (AA).


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14/07/2019 7:56 pm  

no no not @tiger .. he's a sweetheart ...I meant Crowleys masculine tone of the being

I am glad you mentioned today's technology in the title Shiva I was cringing at Paul's invisible stern look for going off topic.. but I am not going off topic and the only minor infringement is the double post for which I hope is more than balanced out by the simple beauty I bring to the table.

if you meant the alien autopsy from Roswell or the youtube alien autopsy viral hit of the noughties.. yes, I though that the first time I saw LAMIAM in Crowleys work a few years back..

Technology is opening more and more doors of Crowleys work not just LAMIAM ..

hard to say what one sees in the cards, so I will leave it up to others to find what they see..err experience.. ..apparently time has no meaning and seemingly not so linear... I see LAMIAM or certainly what I correlate and that is crowley drawing..

I figured last year in one of those Moments, yes I had a few last years 😀 , that while I was given time out to raise my children under the radar, that the deal I made with the universe wasn't a cushy free ride and in that time although I wasn't practicing kabbalah movements over the abyss on the tree of life, the lessons and skills I learned were placed for reasons and bought just as much value and balance ...if it was just about me being a mother, I would of watched every episode of Oprah and Doctor Phil, like valium through a straw, so are the days of our lives. ... and bitched about life to all and sundry while my kids were at school or in bed.. that sounds mind numbing to me so I taught myself web design, graphic design, photography and photo editing.... I create visually, and that is why I had the idea to take the Thoth tarot and Crowley's work and reveal the universe with my visual and 21st century technology skills.

I believe this is why Crowley made lady Frieda make so many changes to get it just right. He knew that one day when the time was right, someone would show the world this visual side of things.. The feminine to the masculine ..so he lined everything up so some tings would only show when everything lined up in visible layers...

I think this one reminds me of the schumann resonance and there is a B up top right.. and there is so much more... notice the hands over the mouth? the being in the middle, her hand on the bottom lined up, .. the wings.. I love the wings..

more to come as I upload my work. There won't be much commentary as I believe each person will see what they need to see when they need to see it

https://www.mayet.com.au/category/layers-of-thoth/

Does anyone know if he got Lady Frieda to draw his cards first on tracing paper at all?


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15/07/2019 3:39 am  

@Shiva :

Have you ever compared Lam to Alien Autopsy? Here’s your chance ... The links now work.
No, I can't say that I ever have --- until now.
Click, compare, complain.
Complied.

@Tiger :

Say isn't Lam
No. Not unless whilst doing so, being "The Voice of the Silence"...

@mayet :

Does anyone know if he got Lady Frieda to draw his cards first on tracing paper at all?
No, 'Freid not!

=Nay, nay & thrice nay,
Norma N joy Conquest


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15/07/2019 3:56 am  

ooh another spectrum. blink in and blink out. quantum
https://youtu.be/t1pQRyhCicQ


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15/07/2019 5:46 am  

“ Say isn’t Lam
No. Not unless whilst doing so, being “The Voice of the Silence”…”

well it does seem;
while reading the txt,
that some otherness
is about.

Better go with
the story
that
it was just a thing
i know not which.

and there
was read


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15/07/2019 4:41 pm  

Sirius Official Trailer #1
https://youtu.be/CnRIR3pqY9A

SIRIUS: from Dr. Steven Greer - Original Full-Length Documentary Film
https://youtu.be/5C_-HLD21hA

Unacknowledged Trailer
https://youtu.be/XMnPKVbgH60


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15/07/2019 9:27 pm  

Moderator's Note: Future links to current favourite YouTube videos will be deleted unless entirely on-topic.

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15/07/2019 11:04 pm  

Moderator’s Note: Future links to current favourite YouTube videos will be deleted unless entirely on-topic

Well, the videos immediately above the Note were on-topic. That is, they were about ufos, which is in the thread title.

However, I did not start this thread to specifically to start ufo disclosures, alien disclosures, or govt leaked disclosures. Those are all side issues, and they need not to be examined here. I was generally looking for viewpoints on Lam and reported/filmed examples of aliens who look Lam-like.

Crowley had a contact with Lam, who resembles the description of "grays."

I have no position to take. I have never seen a ufo (except in movies). I have not consciously contacted alien, extraterrestrial beings. I have had some experiences that could fit into this thread, but they're unrelated to the main topic, so they're not going to be expressed.

Any info anyone wants to put up regarding Lam, Crowley's contact with him (Date, Place, Circumstances, Data Recorded), would be helpful.

"Today's technology," purportedly retro-engineered from crashed ufos, is merely included in the Thread Title because tech = ufos = aliens = Lam.


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15/07/2019 11:08 pm  

@Shiva

You mentioned directed energy weapons, do you want to tie that into the LAM/alien topic?

I can't see AC being subject to something like that so early in the 20th century but I do think that one can definitely fake these abduction scenarios using directed energy technology including microwaves and even holograms/projections not to mention more advanced scalar technologies.


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15/07/2019 11:21 pm  

In regards to your query regarding info on LAM, if I recall correctly he 'showed up' as part of a side effect of the Amalantrah Working in 1918. I don't think the purpose of the ritual was to summon him/it specifically.

https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib729

'Crowley maintained the picture is actually a portrait and drawn from real life. '
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal07.htm


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15/07/2019 11:28 pm  

cs: You mentioned directed energy weapons, do you want to tie that into the LAM/alien topic?

No. That's a side issue.

Thanks for the Lam Contact summary. That was more or less what I remembered. It's probably all in Confessions, but I haven't looked it up.

I am mainly interested in Lam=Gray. Yes or No. Maybe, maybe - pending further lack of association or identification.


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15/07/2019 11:44 pm  

*my vote: Maybe
sliiiiightly leaning to yes.


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17/07/2019 2:07 am  

BREAKING NEWS

"It started as a bit of a joke, but now the US Air Force has told people not to go near Area 51.

"More than a million people have RSVP'd to an event on Facebook, threatening to storm the top-secret base in Nevada, which some believe is home to aliens"

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48989949


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19/07/2019 7:20 pm  

Other worldly illuminations lurking in the depths.
https://youtu.be/BtmXN_tH2iM


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21/07/2019 3:58 am  

Okay, so every body who wanted to express an Lam/Alien, etc opinion got their 3 cent's worth in (it used to be two-cents, but, you know, inflation).

So if Lam doesn't resemble (from a hand-drawn picture) a hydrocephalic gray alien, what is he? An onion? A turnip? What if he's just a projection from the holographic mind-control center, just like the so-called Aliens?

This whole scenario can be boiled down to Silicon versus Carbon. Them versus Us. Carlos wrote about the Inorganic Beings (our most serious threat). That's all covered in Part I of Silicon Exposé. Buzz me at NotaRajah@gmail.com with Subject line: SEND INORGANIC, and you'll get your own copy.

Additionally, you might be interested in Sentient Alien Artificial Intelligence invades Human Artificial Intelligence. Why not, they're happy as pigs in mud inside a silicon chip. You can reap the details at:

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2019/06/ai-sentient-inorganic-invading-artificial-intelligence-articles-interviews-by-alfred-lambremont-webre.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fexopolitics%2Fexopolitics+%28EXOPOLITICS%3A+Politics%2C+Government%2C+and+Law+in+the+Universe%29


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21/07/2019 6:59 am  

"So if Lam doesn’t resemble (from a hand-drawn picture) a hydrocephalic gray alien, what is he? An onion? A turnip?"

Lam is the head of a human penis entering a black hole...one or the other.

"Drawn from life," Crowley said.

I believe it.


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21/07/2019 8:08 am  

Oh Kyle you sly dog . That was funny 🙂

Are you still drawing?

I liked your Grant article in the recent book.

RE LAM ... I have been doing some work with 'him' lately.

I think he is identified with Mars somehow.

With Sirius somehow.

With pyramids, and crystals.

Also he is both a 'being' and a concept.

If you want to talk about turnips and penises I think that 'aliens' made us.
In the sense that we are genetically related to 'them'

'woo woo woo'

Comments?

Mick,

I know that you have done a lot of work with LAM but nothing was really published.

I am super curious.

Respect.


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21/07/2019 8:24 am  

I hate to put my stupid big head back in here like Eric Cartman but I forgot to say some things.

In regards to inorganic beings. I always thought that was an extremely entrancing and unique concept.

The thing that is in my head is that they are like 'mud shadows' or kind of energy leeches.

This also ties into concepts like, even in Thelema, conversation with HGA is burning off your old self. By which I mean, perhaps that is the step to get rid of the inorganic beings?

I have read the Art of Dreaming which I thought was masterful but that's another topic.

Dianetics (I am typing in the dark with my wifes tappy tap touch pad which annoys me)
is a mostly counterfeit version of Magick, Crowley style. But it has that somewhat similar? style concept with Thetans leeching your soul.

So maybe there really is something doing that?

I haven't personally had that experience but I have seen enough weird shit to maybe believe it.

And thank you Paul for being lenient these days 😀


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21/07/2019 7:07 pm  

cs: In regards to inorganic beings. I always thought that was an extremely entrancing and unique concept.

I have (had) a lot of data about a meteorite, Russia, fragments that display an unique pattern (based on 5) that does not match any molecular/atomic structure here on Urth. But I can't find it. I guess I'll need to start all over again.

The thing that is in my head is that they are like ‘mud shadows’ or kind of energy leeches.

This matches Carlos's description ... and also a definition of "Archons."

(I am typing in the dark with my wifes tappy tap touch pad which annoys me)

Aren't you afraid/cautious of the shadows surrounding you?


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22/07/2019 10:03 am  

<The best place to hide the truth is in plain sight.>

Why do people keep saying this? It seems especially popular in Conspiracy Theory/Reptilians/Anti-Masons forums.

It would make a very short episode of NCIS: "You murdered your wife and you hid the corpse on a number 12 bus going to Shoreditch. But we found her!"


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22/07/2019 4:47 pm  

Silicon versus Carbon

Sirius versus Canopus

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Lam is the head of a human penis entering a black hole…one or the other “Drawn from life,” Crowley said.
I believe it.

I guess each traveler on the path finds his own correlations and identifications with truth, Aleister's was sex. Mine isn't, while I have had some awesome magick sexual experiences, Im 52 years old, post menopausal, I have found an interesting correletion between sex, health, power and boogs, I am happily single and all my before to present add up to abyssmal experiences being of higher consideration.

I have stated before that Crowleys Thoth cards when layered on top of each other at various levels of transparency show a truth that is not fully visible in singular cards. The combinations, pairings, triplicates and aeons show a story of what is. It reveals those answers to arguments, discussions, confusions and varied opposing interpretations of Crowley and Thoth as presenting the Universe's work. That includes LAM.

Do you not think that possibly, probably or certainly that LAM, who Crowley spoke of in 1918, would or would not be included in Crowley "opus magnum pictura poema mundo"? Just as he left codes behind in his written work, he left codes behind codes in his pictorial work, that directly confirms and affirms the libers of Thoth and at the same time revealing the truth of us, you, me, them.

I believe LAM to be the entrance and at the same time the all encompassing. The beginning and the all, there is no end. I believe that Lam is not a "being" in visible similarity to the picture of Crowleys GRAY. Does anyone think that maybe, possibly all future concepts from that point of "aliens beings" and modeled in the story of "the gooborg world", by both gov and conspiracy ufo creators, possibly used Crowleys image is a model blueprint framework for their alien thingy and agenda. After all he was the wickedess man the world, what better way to subliminally create fear than by utilizing existing material.

I believe that when layered in the patterns and combinations that Crowley spoke of in his "magnum opus enim opera" of Thoth, his words become the picture and the picture become his words. One can walk out and go to the fridge and suffer doorway disease, once one is through that doorway, one forgets where they were going and why. If steps are retraced and one looks around, one can see visually, the pattern of what was before and what they went looking for and go and get it.

I only say believe because tired of being blamed for having an ego for being me by the ways Iam

Lam

LamIam

a lions share of Lam in Libers,

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RE LAM … I have been doing some work with ‘him’ lately. I think he is identified with Mars somehow.

Mars is : Love is : Will is

Aries, Fire, Ram, druidic, beginning, primordial fire, the spark of creation, the father, Deimos, Pan, will, the old god, the all giving, phallus, point, male
and
Scorpio, Primordial Water, woman, wicca, the mother, the womb, the serpent, love, the scorpion, the eagle, the reflection, the image, the mirror, Pandora, the all accepting, vessel, vagina, virgin, circle, female

Why do you speak of Lam as he, as in the masculine?

the combination of the Aries and Scorpio fire and water, sulfur salt joined with mercury, creates the third and fourth Earth Matter and Air Aethyr .. the second and third planetoids Venus and Earth FF
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With Sirius somehow.

or Canopus, or Pleiades, or Leo, or Cygnus
*sigh and then the glass ceiling shattered

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With pyramids, and crystals.

crystals grab handful of natural points in a dark room and toss them down on a surface together, watch the sparks fly.. *point postnote (toss them on a soft surface like a bed, even that is damaged and fractured by the explosive energy)
pyramid funnels to a narrow band at top
result : between your pyramids and my crystals we have beams

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Also he is both a ‘being’ and a concept.

Concept: Doorway to the universe and the entire womb, being of the universe
Being: or not being .... I vote the being is not the being that is the being that is not being the being being the being is not or is the being..

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If you want to talk about turnips and penises I think that ‘aliens’ made us.

Riddle, what eats turnips? Answer worms: bacteria and fungus ..
what eats penises.. Answer: we won't go there, a tasty subject. 😀

*all of the above waffle is subject to the law of as above or so below or love under will


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23/07/2019 2:04 am  

@Alan_OBrien :

<The best place to hide the truth is in plain sight.> Why do people keep saying this?
Have you seen ignant666's basketball practice clip? I'm not sure where it is now as I can't remember offhand exactly where that might be nor would necessarily be able to link to it anyway I expect, but it was --- instructive in this respect. Perhaps if he's so inclined and it's necessary, he might show it to you again.

@mayet:

I believe that when layered in the patterns and combinations that Crowley spoke of in his “magnum opus enim opera” of Thoth, his words become the picture and the picture become his words. One can walk out and go to the fridge and suffer doorway disease, once one is through that doorway, one forgets where they were going and why. If steps are retraced and one looks around, one can see visually, the pattern of what was before and what they went looking for and go and get it.
A bit like as in the practices of Liber Thisharb maybe? "Doorway disease" --- most descriptive and highly evocative!

I have stated before that Crowleys Thoth cards when layered on top of each other at various levels of transparency show a truth that is not fully visible in singular cards. The combinations, pairings, triplicates and aeons show a story of what is. It reveals those answers to arguments, discussions, confusions and varied opposing interpretations of Crowley and Thoth as presenting the Universe’s work .
It's a very interesting idea, and one that could only come to light after a certain (technological) point had been reached --- have you come across any revelations here which are beyond those of a purely subjective interpretation?

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23/07/2019 11:58 am  

@JamieJBarter It’s a very interesting idea, and one that could only come to light after a certain (technological) point had been reached —

That is true, which also raises the question why.

Get the stele of revealing itself; set it in thy secret temple — and that temple is already aright disposed — & it shall be your Kiblah for ever. It shall not fade, but miraculous colour shall come back to it day after day. Close it in locked glass for a proof to the world.
I looked and saw a great abyss and a dark funnel of whirling
waters or fixed airs, wherein were cities and monsters and trees
and atoms and mountains and little flames (being souls) and all
the material of an universe.
And all are sucked down one by one, as necessity hath
ordained. For below is a glittering jewelled globe of gold and
azure, set in a World of Stars.
And there came a Voice from the Abyss, saying: “Thou seest
the Current of Destiny! Canst thou change one atom in its path?
I am Destiny. Dost thou think to control me? for who can move
my course?”

have you come across any revelations here which are beyond those of a purely subjective interpretation?

Yes, the revelation that LAM is all over Thoth like a fat kid on free candy 😀

Siriusly speaking though, it is all subjective interpretation as his words are. As each sees in his words what they need to see, at the time that they see it so shall they in the mirror images. There is some amazing things visible, stunning colours, combinations, shapes, symbolism and much more that fit as they do. There is more for me to unveil, some have made me amaze at the perfection and harmony that is, inside our universe and out. It truly is beautiful and this is Crowleys work from the dark to the light and back again.

I would be interested to see what others see.


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23/07/2019 12:36 pm  

Apologies for double post

This is the link to the LAM images, I have another folder to upload tomorrow

LAM - Layers of Thoth©

If nothing else it is gorgeous art.

Krystal saw it on my screen this morning while I was working on it and she said "Dr Giger" and showed me his work and some tool covers, I could see the correlation

The truth is in all


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23/07/2019 1:31 pm  

Since Jamie asked, here is the "Awareness Test" video again- i myself can't recall in what thread or context i previously posted it.

https://youtu.be/X88LePyKnkA

I used it in training research staff to "unfocus" their observation from what they know we are looking for to all that is there. It also has considerable utility in shaking loose the belief held by many that they live and function in a state/condition posited to be "reality", rather than within a mental construct/internal simulation formed by very imperfect sense-impressions THAT ARE SELECTIVELY "EDITED" BY THE BRAIN. Evolution has shaped the brain to discard as "doesn't matter" anything that lacks obvious utility for obtaining water/food/sex/comfort for the meat-vehicle.

Alan O'Brian might also care to review Edgar Allan Poe's "The Purloined Letter", which is the obvious source of the phrase/idea he cites.

This is an interesting thread where i have little to contribute.

In 1978, on a remote country road in Vermont, i (and two others) saw a UFO. It was an enormous array of lights, very high in the sky, that moved with incredible speed and then vanished.

I don't say i saw an extraterrestrial craft- there are several military bases, including at least one airforce base, in Vermont. It was very late at night, and we may have been the only three people in a ten-mile radius, clearly a good time/place for testing experimental skunkworks aircraft. But it sure did not look like, or move like, any military aircraft i've ever seen or can imagine, not that i am a subscriber to Jane's Defence Weekly or anything or particularly up on such things.


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23/07/2019 3:32 pm  

Ah so, back to cycling in Madhatten, defending against multiple, random assailants, any really complicated task with many (infinite?) variations, and ...

I first caught the knack of this when I was undergoing an intense, uphill, heroic adventure involving escape from the enemy. I became wobbly and dizzy; I thought, "I may not have enough energy." Then the "torture scence" from OTO II* came to mind. I shifted gears and began to float (mentally). It worked.

Whether one has a manual transmission, or an automatic transmission (bicycle gears included), the solution to any problem is found in shifting into "cosmic overdrive" (also termed, "automatic overdrive"). If you (anyone) can do this with a high percentage of success, you can forget all the rest of the stuff.


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23/07/2019 4:47 pm  

As Shiva notes, the limited sense-perception and content-filtering that the human brain has evolved to protect the meat-vehicle is not always in even the meat-vehicle's best interest.

He notes some cases involving dealing with multiple existential threats simultaneously, where there is just too much happening too fast for the poor monkey-mind to keep up. Sometimes this leads to the crashing of the logical control modules within the "reality" simulation running on the meat-computer, or even the whole simulation.

Fortunately, there is (at least sometimes, for some people) this other process running in the background that takes over. One characteristic of this state that is very advantageous in dealing with multiple threats simultaneously is that is runs at a variable clockspeed, such that the "time" variable in the "reality" simulation "slows down".

Some words/expressions for this thing are "divine guidance", "K & C of the HGA", "wu-wei", "being in a 'zen' state", "the real O-Mind", etc. Other things besides multiple threats to life known to sometimes cause the simulation to crash include some sexual practices, some botanical and synthetic substances, ritual magic, playing music, sitting zazen, etc.

Evolution is not teleological. It does not seek perfection, because it doesn't seek anything. Advantageous traits produced through random genetic change are often (but not always) passed on to the offspring one lives to have due to that trait. Natural selection is not a quick process, nor is it necessarily very efficient.

Perhaps this facility will become more common over time, or perhaps it is already latent in All?

Therefore the sage keeps to the deed that consists in taking no action and practices the teaching that has no words. [Tao Te Ching (tr. Lau), II:6]

The way [Tao] never acts yet nothing is left undone. [XXXVII: 81]


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23/07/2019 5:53 pm  

St. Dock

A famous (at least to some) historical example: St. Dock Ellis, who on June 12. 1970, pitched a no-hitter, the second most difficult feat in baseball, after he forgot it was a game-day and dropped acid. To give an idea of how rare it is to pitch a no-hitter, each team plays 162 games per season; there are a lot of teams. Pitchers have thrown no-hitters 301 times in US pro baseball since 1876.

In his own words:

They didn't really see it, but I had the acid in me. [...] I had lost all concept of time. It was easier to pitch with the LSD...

https://youtu.be/yqvlrJQVAP4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dock_Ellis

For those from non-baseball cultures, only the batting team can score in any given inning. The pitcher is the lead defensive player, trying to throw legal pitches the batting team can't hit. Throwing a "no-hitter" means Team A's pitcher did not allow Team B to hit the ball fair even once in the entire game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-hitter

For folks from football cultures to imagine something sort of equivalent: a scoreless game has gone into penalty shoot-outs. Goalie Dock Ellis held off more than 81 penalty kicks. An analogy that breaks down quickly but gives some idea at least.

DISCLAIMER: NO ONE SHOULD EVEN CONSIDER EMULATING ST. DOCK WITHOUT CONSULTING ATTORNEYS MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND ALL OTHER AUTHORITIES AND RECEIVING THEIR WRITTEN PERMISSION AND A HALL PASS> VOID WHERE PROHIBITED BY LAW.


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23/07/2019 8:39 pm  

for those in Europe who may be unable to see the video provided above, this one also tells the tale:

https://youtu.be/_vUhSYLRw14


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23/07/2019 8:55 pm  

Oh snap, William Thirteen, your clip of St. Dock is so much better than mine, and you a German, no less, if i am not mistaken!

And my apologies to all the furriners who cannot see my [inferior but does include original footage of the actual game and part of the interview that W13's has ALL of] clip. Did not even think of the fact that this might be an issue.


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23/07/2019 9:51 pm  

@ignant666 not sure it is a GeoIP issue - but that is the most likely explanation. To be honest, I am not really a baseball fan, but once I saw the Blagden piece I thought it should be shared.

not a German - a refugee. Flüchtling is the German word. A refugee from good ole USofA. Opted out of that "sh*thole country" over a decade ago. Keep up the good fight though!


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24/07/2019 12:34 am  

I didn't think there were many Krauty folk who understood baseball, so being an expatriate/refugee explains it all.

Not much of a fan myself, but baseball is just deep in American culture as you know.

My late best friend was an obsessive Yankees fan, so i had to keep up with how they were doing to monitor his mental health, but now that's he gone, i really only pay attention when Yankees or Cardinals (my early childhood was spent in Bob Gibson-era St. Louis) go into the post-season.

Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion of LAM and aliens and whatnot, and i apologize for this digression into wu-wei, LSD, baseball, etc.


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24/07/2019 2:49 pm  

I know the picture of Lam well, as does anyone who has read The Blue Equinox. But I remember nothing about how Crowley contacted or drew him, except that it was in the USA.

I've never come across anything that Crowley wrote about the drawing, apart from a description that accompanied publication of it in the 1919 Blue Equinox:

"LAM is the Tibetan Word for Way or Path, and LAMA is He Who Goeth, the specific title of the Gods of Egypt, the Treader of the Path, in Buddhistic phraseology. Its numerical value is 71, the number of this book."

"This book" is a reference to Liber 71, Crowley's Commentary on Blavatsky's The Voice of the Silence, a book that he rated very highly indeed. The fact that he published this drawing as a frontispiece to the commentary suggests to me a strong link.

Although Crowley says nothing in print about the origins of this drawing, it seems clear to me that it arose out of the Amalantrah Working of 1918, since the Egg is a recurrent theme throughout many of the visions which comprise the Amalantrah Working. There are a couple in particular that suggest this drawing. It was exhibited in the 'Dead Souls' exhibition in New York in early 1919 under the title 'The Way'.

Crowley referred to this drawing as 'The Lama' on at least one occasion. This for instance, from his diary for 8th May 1945:

Aussik [Kenneth Grant] helped a whole lot; gave him "The Lama"

Crowley was referring to the night before, when Crowley had fallen very ill and Grant had had to visit Crowley's doctor for an emergency prescription of heroin. The gift of the drawing is reflected in an entry in Kenneth Grant's diary for the same day:

666 gives me the original drawing from Equinox III

I first became interested in Lam in the late 1980s. Kenneth Grant asked me if I could publish 'A Statement on Lam' in the forthcoming issue (Vol. I No. 3) of Starfire. I agreed, and he asked if I could write an introduction of one or two pages. Though I was taken aback, having displayed no interest in Lam, I agreed and my interest in Lam grew from there. For me it has become a matter of magical and mystical experience rather than simply intellectual curiousity, though of course the latter has a part to play.

Mayet's superimposition of the Thoth Atus was very interesting and suggestive, I thought.

I don't personally pay a lot of attention to the similarity between the drawing of Lam and the appearance of many alien visitors or contact. This is because in my opinion it's pretty small beer when set alongside the magical and mystical implications. Besides which, I don't think there's any "inner" and "outer", but a continuum. Again my opinion, but I don't see "alien contact" as concerning little green men from a galaxy a million light years round the corner, so much as protrusions into consciousness.


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24/07/2019 6:00 pm  

MS: ... I don’t see “alien contact” as concerning little green men from a galaxy a million light years round the corner, so much as protrusions into consciousness.

The funny thing is, most reports describe them as "gray" or "gray tending toward white." There are also the reptilians, the insectoids, and the Nordics. The Nordics are said to be the "good guys." But I wonder where "little green men" originated?

Since I have neither been "abducted" or even "contacted," I'm not in any position to say ... "This is exactly what he/she/they looked like."

Anyway, thanks for your overview of Lam, which is basically what I knew from my own reading. It's no wonder that I knew no more, since there doesn't appear to be more.

As for inner and outer, dual-beam holographic interface, as within so without, a continuum, and the spectrum of consciousness ... let's save that for another thread.


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25/07/2019 5:36 am  

Mayet’s superimposition of the Thoth Atus was very interesting and suggestive, I thought.

Michael, so much perfection in angles and colours. Words are becoming visible, letters, symbols geometric shapes..Lam shows Lion.. it is like a visible opening to the universe of all...

like this one, the tears of a waterfall...

it's possibly they are not perfect alignment
It will take time to do that with numbers and combos and apparently movement is on the books.


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25/07/2019 2:57 pm  

@Shiva

As for inner and outer, dual-beam holographic interface, as within so without, a continuum, and the spectrum of consciousness … let’s save that for another thread.

Personally I think it's very germane to discussions on Lam, UFOs, extra-terrestrialism, and the like.

But I wonder where “little green men” originated?

Good point. I think the phrase originated a few decades ago, and was used in a mildly derisory manner. It's kinda stuck with me.


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