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Shiva
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Welcome to The Flying Carpet

I refer to them as those "fabulous flying ships of the inner planes."

Frater D.'. has just informed me that Kenneth Grant, "told me in person that he viewed Crowley as the boy with his finger in the dike of alien consciousness, and that his death in 1947 triggered the outpouring of UFO phenomena."

To which I reply: Yes, '47 was indeed the beginning of the "outpouring." We know UFOs were seen in the middle ages (and even in biblical times if we believe Ezekiel), but the era of contemporary high-tech "saucer" vehicles officially started on June 24, 1947,with Kenneth Arnold's sighting of nine (9, no less), 1000-mph flying "saucers" in a row near Mt. Rainer, Washington. Then we add the Lam-like pilots at Roswell on July 7, 1947, and we have the chronological starting point(s) of the modern myth - these two "firsts" were separated by only two weeks and occurred about 5 months before Crowley died.

Of course, the "major outpouring" (in sheer numbers) took place in 1966-67 ("The Mother of all UFO Waves" - see
http://www.nicap.org/waves/1966fullrep.ht m"> http://www.nicap.org/waves/1966fullrep.htm
for the use of the term),
and I was part of that display. Note that the "close encounters" types of sightings of 1952 were even statistically higher than the massive wave of 1966-67. When I say "part of that display," I mean that many of us were directly and magickally involved in the generation of many of these sightings - a topic that is described in the forthcoming Inside Solar Lodge - Behind the Veil.

This is not a "new" concept. Kenneth Grant previously described this phenomena when he wrote, "During the Workings of New Isis Lodge [1955-62] for example, 'UFOs' were seen to appear like "cast-off orgasm reflexes". In other words, some kinds of UFOs are the sloughings of magical workings, the surplus energies of which flow over and activate their subtle counterparts in the Mauve Zone."
- Kenneth Grant. Beyond the Mauve Zone. p.77. Text ©1999 Kenneth Grant.

Say, we used to call this "leakage" of magickal energy from the circle.

It must be noted that I have never seen a UFO in the outer world, but I keep hoping. So I have no claims or wild stories to tell in that regard. In the inner worlds, I have extensive "ship experience" as related in Encounters with the Light, a controversial 10-page pdf document that I will email to you for free if you PM me with your email address.

But here is my point: The contemporary high-tech flying vehicles with Lam-like pilots did not begin at Roswell in 1947. Roswell was quickly covered up by the Establishment and only emerged (in a popular sense) years later - as the icon of the modern UFO hysteria. .

Again, Kenneth Grant noted that the prototype Trinity atomic test of July 16, 1945 ripped a hole [the first of many rips] in the protective "membrane" that surrounds Earth, and that shortly thereafter strange craft started pouring in. We always called that "membrane" the "etheric web," and Grant and myself and a lot of other people agree with this scenario. An increase in physical meteorites "getting through" the ionosphere and atmosphere in the vicinity of all above-ground atomic tests seems to demonstrate the "opening" of the veil in a mundane sense.

Anyway, the FIRST alien-piloted UFO crash took place just beyond my back porch (more or less), Check out this timeline:

(1) July 16, 1945 - Trinity test. Journada del Muerto ("journey of death") desert, New Mexico.

(2) Aug 6, 1945 - "Little Boy," the first bullet fired in the atomic (atmic) age was detonated over Hiroshima, Japan, effectively ending "The Great War."

(3) August 20, 1945 - The first UFO crash. San Antonio, New Mexico. Only 20 miles away from the Trinity site ... and one hour by car south of my back porch. I cannot see the site from here, but the clouds that form over the outer rim of our local magickal vortex circle can be easily seen on most days. Note that this "first" crash was just about 5 weeks after the Trinity "hole" was opened. Do you know how some people make jokes about drivers from certain Oriental countries? It seems like the same poor driving ability afflicted many of the first Lams who came buzzing into terrestrial airspace.

Note also that this San Antonio crash took place right in the middle of wartime hush-hush security, right next door to the most secret test site that ever existed, and it was cleaned up and hushed up very quickly. It never got a chance to be announced and then called a "weather balloon" like Roswell - 2 years later!

This San Antonio story can be read by you, if you are so interested in this sort of thing, by going to http://www.rense.com/general44/part2.ht m"> http://www.rense.com/general44/part2.htm
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And there are also several Google and YouTube links to the "San Antonio UFO Crash."

I have driven through that area and it is absolutely desolate - the closest thing to a black hole feeling on the physical plane that I have encountered. The area is "entered" by a short (less than one mile) stretch on the Interstate-25 freeway where the ground is extensively broken (just like the Aries Vortex in Last Chance Canyon, California) - a tow-truck driver out of Socorro told us this was the infamous mile-marker 131, the zone of dead cell phones and mysterious engine failures - where he is constantly sent to tow people out of the "electronic graveyard."

Note that the highly visible (in the daylight hours) zone of electrical strokes is only 8 miles away from the site of the first UFO crash (at San Antonio exit 139).

There is a good chance that we will be mounting an expedition to San Antonio in early November (in just a month), and if it happens, you can look forward to another amazing report of modern magickal recklessness and high adventure.

I have summarized the San Antonio event in my ground-breaking monograph Silicon Exposé, which is a 50 Mb, 45-page, illustrated account of a prophet crying aloud in the wilderness. This chilling tale is not so foolish as to warn sorcerers about the dangers of visiting the realm of the inorganic beings, but rather it clearly describes how the silicon-based inorganic beings (the "Borg") are doing really well at engulfing our (human) consciousness - all based on events at San Antonio and Roswell. This booklet is so massive (50 Mb) that I cannot send it by email (10 Mb limit) or post it at one of my websites (20 Mb limit). But if you want a copy, just send me your email address by PM, and I will upload it to a file transfer service. I did this once, and the service only leaves it available for download for 5 days. I already have a short list of people who missed out on the first downloading, so if you get to me before Oct 7, I'll put you on the list and you'll be notified when it's ready for downloading (but only for 5 days). This is all brought to you free of charge and shipping expenses are non-existent. The best things in life are free.

Grant also reported that he and Crowley undertook some sort of astral experience in 1945, after which Crowley gave the Lam portrait to Grant, thus starting a whole new line of investigation … and probably transferring a strange lineage in the process. There isn't much else written about what Crowley and Grant experienced during that adventure (or is there?), but if you read the New Isis Lodge Manifesto, you will see that it was pretty much like Solar Lodge in it's capacity as "a serious and secret order," with big-time emphasis on "secrecy." Today, many members of the Oriental persuasion can't wait to proclaim their membership aloud. The fourth power of the Sphinx has become a tattered rag.

So everything written above is merely introductory, and I really am not making any specific point. I am simply opening the topic of "magickal ufos," not because Crowley (the patron saint of this forum) pointed his finger directly at them (he just designed The Chariot Atu and drew a picture of Lam that predates any Roswell descriptions), but because Grant pursued it and I pursued it, and maybe you have something to add.

Maybe you wanna go on the November outing to the "journey of death" and get near Trinity and the first crash site?

You are free to respond with posts of your own design, but if you pop up with "I believe," or "I think," or "So and so says" (cut and paste quotations), and your response is not based on direct (inner or outer) experience, then I plan to either ignore or disparage your submission.

This thread is loaded with booby-traps and bears the potential for ridicule and outlandish statements. If any meaningful dialog should actually develop, let's be prepared to take it to PM or email if any trolling intervenes.

In previewing this post, it seems the links are not working and my browser is jerking about drastically, so I'm gonna just post it before my whole Borg computer blows up ...

Sh.'.


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Shiva, sounds intriguing! PM sent, Id like to read this piece!


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Nice synopsis on Grants views on UFOs and how it may tie into magickal activity.
I am of the view that while the majority of UFOs are man-made and based on designs initiated by the Germans in the 1930s, then imported into our military-industrial complex via project Paperclip in 1947 (hence the start of the sightings) that there are probably 1% of actual unknowns that originate from nonhuman intelligences, be they physical or astral or what have you.
see Roswell and the Reich: http://www.amazon.com/Roswell-Reich-Connection-Joseph-Farrell/dp/1935487051
Hunt for Zero Point: http://www.amazon.com/Hunt-Zero-Point-Classified-Antigravity/dp/0767906284
as well as The Rise of the Fourth Reich: http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fourth-Reich-Societies-Threaten/dp/0061245593/

so I believe UFOs are both man-made and 'non human'
I can go into details if you want but those books say it all carefully documented footnoted and historically backed up.
as a PS the reason sightings spiked in that year is due to teh technology proliferating and being tested by various governments, mainly the US. The previous sightings are more likely to be non human due to the technology not being available until around world war 2.


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I wanted to post something in the same vein. UFO means "unidentified", that's all. No wonder the crash took place at a military site: I bet they tested all kinds of weird stuff. Like proto drones or whatever. This was cold war times, they wanted to get to Ivan before he got to them so they tried each and everything, fuck the law. Fuck the laws of flying, too, it seems 🙂


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I'm most intrigued that Shiva says that he has never seen a UFO.
[joke] You mean that you have never seen something flying in the sky and not been sure exactly what it was? Wish I had your eyes![/joke]

I've seen at least three things that I would class as UFOs - Flying Objects that couldn't be Identified. I had originally typed up a description of all three but for some reason the computer decided to sever my connection just before posting it so I'll take the hint and stop there.....
8) <


ooh look an MIB! Wait what was I talking about?


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"amadan-De" wrote:
[joke] You mean that you have never seen something flying in the sky and not been sure exactly what it was? Wish I had your eyes![/joke]

when will you get to the anal probing? 😀


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While camping in the so-called Hotspot for UFO sightings in the USA , Sand Dunes National Park, I saw a UFO. But it was anticlimactic in that I did not realise the object was 'anomolous' until the next day.
I was going for a walk around 3am near the mountains, as they say most sightings happen between midnight and 4. I saw a light that appeared to be very bright headlights like some kind of halogen going from left to right across the mountain in front of me. Since it was fairly small I figured the mountain must be far away, as I heard no car noise. The light disappeared. I went back to the camp site.
The next day I was looking at the 'mountain' and in the light of day it appeared it had been none other than a cliff about a few hundred feet away, and it was a sheer drop. Thus it was definitely not a car, and it was not a plane or a helicopter since it made no noise. that was my sighting. Ive had other strange related encounters but I dont really want to go into it because I dont want to sound like a nutter.


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"christibrany" wrote:
I dont really want to go into it because I dont want to sound like a nutter.

You sound like this anyway 😛

[/joke off]
Please tell us, we want to know. This is the thread to tell us all your UFO sightings. I bet if we all tell what we saw some nights in the sky this thread will be among the largest here, soon.


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I PMed you khui. apparantly twice. the server got laggy. sorry bout that 🙂


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"christibrany" wrote:
I was going for a walk around 3am near the mountains, as they say most sightings happen between midnight and 4.

[banter]LOL They were right! 3am really is Eternal! - Now was it the Illuminati (you saw a light right?) or The JAMs you saw?[/banter]

Oh yeah, Khui sorry to disappoint but no probing anal, aural, oral or otherwise at any of the events.


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A few months ago, I spent HOURS preparing a post on some similar subject. Then I pushed"SUBMIT" and EVERYTHING WENT AWAY, never to be seen again. Starting with my first post (above), I and a few others have reported "techhnical difficulties" above the norm.

I also addressed the matter of secrecy. Each one of us has that personal borderline between what we can (and should) say out loud, and when it's best to maintain silence. As we get close to that "boundary," it becomes more difficult to express; electronic equipment (especially) begins to stutter and suffer. And then, if we actually cross over into silent-land and begin to speak, well thar's when the "preview" or"submit" button dumps your work into a black hole.

My father was a "rocket-scientist" with a top-secret clearance who worked for the military-indstrial complex. You could say that I was raised in the suburban environment of The Black Lodge. 😆 So one night he had the classical encounter out in a remote area. He was driving and his engine stopped as the radio went off as well. The ship then slowly rose up from behind a hill and drove off, after which his car started up again. He told my brother, "I'll never tell anybody about that. They'll think I'm crazy." He never told me. So this is all hearsay.

I heard that same tale repeated up in Alamosa, Colorado, in the Rocky Mountain Trench, where UFOs are often seen and the first cattlr mutilations took place. I lived there and never saw nuthin'. Now, I'm still living in an extension (the southernmost) of that same strange trench, and still there's nuthin'.

Anyway, guard your personal silence line. It will be different for each person.

Yes, Grant stated that "some" UFOs were magickally spun off - but they "excited their counterparts" in the Mauve Zone. Then there are the man-made jobs. When I was enrolled in advanced training at the Signal Corps school at Ft. Monmouth, NJ (where I was one of the first to actually "tune in" to Sputnick I, and listen to it's signal), I heard talk that I wasn't supposed to. A drunken soldier was (hysterically) describing the USAs flying saucerss that he had seen down at his previous post in Texas. More hearsay. The witness is rambling, your honor.


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"Shiva" wrote:
A few months ago, I spent HOURS preparing a post on some similar subject. Then I pushed"SUBMIT" and EVERYTHING WENT AWAY, never to be seen again.

After bad and long experience with faulty software in lots of forums I always hit CTRL and A for marking the whole text, and then CTRL and C when doing a long or (to my mind) interesting post.

If the text is not in the cache after that, it really was the MIB or maybe you didn't sacrifice enough to the Computer God/dess 😉

I guess I'm a little frightened that there may be such things as aliens which possibility is new to me. I always ruled it out but have to acknowledge it now.

Do you think alien could be the same as demon or angel?

NB: I hate coincidences, but after editing this post about aliens a 3rd time I saw a picture of Lam on the side gallery. Ok keep cool boy it's just coincidence. 🙄


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Shiva
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"Khui" wrote:
Do you think alien could be the same as demon or angel?

That's what a lot of people have been saying for a long time - even some Christian ministers.

"Khui" wrote:
... after editing this post about aliens a 3rd time I saw a picture of Lam on the side gallery. Ok keep cool boy it's just coincidence. 🙄

At a certain level, one is able to see that "there are no coincidences!"


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Thought this would be of interest re Roswell original broadcasts
http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/latest
radio show good until next weekend.


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PS Also if you go here
http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html
and scroll down to Roswell And The Reich; The Nazi Connection you can hear the other possibility in regards to Roswell.
Hopefully some other people with these kinds of experiences can add to this thread too 🙂


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"christibrany" wrote:
PS Also if you go here ... Roswell And The Reich; The Nazi Connection you can hear the other possibility in regards to Roswell.

You are doing exactly what I asked posters not to do ... else I would "ignore or disparage" their message. You have used "I think" and "I believe" and you are now chain-posting other websites and theories.

This thread is about DIRECT EXPERIENCE (either Inner or Outer), but it's not about other people. It's about those of us here on lashtal that have DIRECT EXPERIENCE.

All the stuff about the Vimanas, the Nazis and the Thule Society and the War in the Antarctic are great reads. I recommend that everyone (who even cares about this stuff) read all of the wonderful accounts and theories. Be sure to check out "The Battle of Los Angeles" (google it). There are more UFO tales than there are Aleister Crowley stories.

This thread is opened in conjunction with "Magickal UFOs" as defined by Grant and myself - the products (or the effects)(or the side-effects) of magickal workings. I have just received info stating that Anger, Cameron, Smith and others of Agape Lodge had UFO experiences and that "some" of them were chemically-assisted.

So, who has some first hand information?

Soon, I will abduct the consciousness of this thread and you (those who can and will) can take a flight.


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Please consider leaving references to Ezekiel out of this discussion. I know all the stretched allusions that Erich Von Dunnyseat pulled in his "Chariots Of The Gods." (Most of them, anyway, it's been a while.)

Here's the Occam's Razor ("The simplest explanation is usually correct) explanation from Walter Five:

Ezekiel was an Astrologer. The "Wheel within a Wheel" is the Zodiac as the outer circle, and the Planets as the Inner Circle. The Four Faces of the Pilot correspond to the four cardinal points of the (then) Babylonian Zodiac. The purple prose surrounding his predictions is exactly that: purple prose. IF there are UFOs mentioned in the Books of Moses (such as the Chariot of Fire that took Enoch) that's a matter of debate, but Ezekiel was pretty clearly alluding to the Zodiac and the Planets in his description.


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Re: von Dunnyseat (great coining) - I've read that his first book was done as a joke and when he saw how seriously it got taken he took the money and ran with it.

I do hope its true.


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"Walterfive" wrote:
Please consider leaving ... references to Ezekiel out of this discussion.

Surely. His name just slipped by in the introduction. We are looking for DIRECT EXPERIENCE, not philosophy or history or wishful thinking.

So far, there's not even too much DIRECT EXPERIENCE,


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"Shiva" wrote:
Welcome to The Flying Carpet

When I say "part of that display," I mean that many of us were directly and magickally involved in the generation of many of these sightings - a topic that is described in the forthcoming Inside Solar Lodge - Behind the Veil.

Today, many members of the Oriental persuasion can't wait to proclaim their membership aloud. The fourth power of the Sphinx has become a tattered rag.

So says the man selling his second book on the same subject as his first one. I saw the autographed edition of the first one you shilled on E-bay. You really thought your autograph was worth as much as that?

A ____ and his ____ are soon parted.


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"Shiva" wrote:
We are looking for DIRECT EXPERIENCE, not philosophy or history or wishful thinking.

So far, there's not even too much DIRECT EXPERIENCE,

😕 You state at the start of this that you have had no personal DIRECT EXPERIENCE of the phenomena and then complain that there is a shortage of people coming forward to share their tales?

Of course you do claim to have had extensive "Inner World" experience as well as being "directly and magickally involved in the generation of many of (the 1966-67) sightings". I use the term 'claim' because there is no way that you or anyone else can demonstrate conclusively to another what goes on in your/their "Inner World" - especially through text online or in a downloaded document. As it is you can present your claim and we can either agree or not to believe you - but then we would be "believing" which you have ruled against as an acceptable position. Doesn't leave much room to move does it?

Your "Inner World" experiences (like everyone else's) will fall somewhere on the line from "wishful thinking" to Unconfirmable Personal Gnosis and we on the outside have no real way of knowing which end of the line they are closest to other than taking your word for it. So we can 'think' or 'believe' that what you are stating is Fact but we can't 'know' so on your own criteria we cannot go any further.

As I said above I have had at least three 'encounters' with what I will call UFOs (they were all Unidentified/Unidentifiable and Flying). One seemed to be an object/vessel which had lights on its exterior, one was a ball of luminesence moving very oddly, and one was either a large cryptid-avian or Something Else. All of these were witnessed and discussed by other people at the time so I 'know' I didn't imagine them/have a purely personal revelation (no 'libation' had been going on either). As for other details - I'm pleading the 4th power of the Sphynx as far as online public posting goes.

However I do not understand why all of these should have the same explanation or even a related explanation and extend that opinion to the experiences of others. I am also not convinced enough by the material supporting your theory to 'believe' it as a universal answer and find your vetoing of "I believe", "I think" and "So and so said" bizarre in light of the obvious requirement for us to "believe" what you and some other "so and so's" have said (no insult to yourself or any other spokesman intended it's your term) from the start. There seems to be an agenda already operating here and the terms of discussion prevent any theoretical exploration or alternative views (i.e. I think it might be...what do you think?).


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"Walterfive" wrote:
So says the man selling his second book on the same subject as his first one.

The Flying Carpet is a subject of its own. It has nothing to do with book-selling. My retail books stand on their own and have their own titles. I am actually giving away for FREE (not "selling") two books in this thread. "The man" (if it's me, Frater Shiva, the impeccable] indeed did write a book on Solar Lodge. That was called the" first edition." A second edition has been prepared that deals with subjects that were not even mentioned in the first editions (UFOs, LSD, AMD, TRI, and other 3-letter words). The second edition even includes important input from other contributors (these are actual, true, independent people). The second edition is almost twice the size of the first edition.

"Walterfive" wrote:
I saw the autographed edition of the first one you shilled on E-bay.

Now we get down to the insults. We (several of us - you have a fan club, you know) were wondering how long you would wait before you appeared again on lashtal with your snide remarks and baseless braggadocio, especially after your last embarrassing display of "LACK OF RATIONAL CONTROL" a few months ago. Now you want to wade in with more inaccurate sludge.

A "schill" is "One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle" OR "To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise)" OR "To lure (a person) into a swindle."

If I read this correctly, you are demeaning my sterling character, and falsely accusing me of illegal proceedings in relation to book sales. How crude.

You might note that my publisher handles all formal book sales. The book (in question: Inside Solar Lodge - OUTSIDE THE LAW ) sold out in 6 months. After that, I had about 6 "author" copies left over that WERE ALREADY SIGNED and they were offered AT AUCTION on eBay - starting at $45 (the original retail price) - hardly a "schill" eh? - and they ALL worked up to an approximate $80 sales price, which we could say was the going "supply and demand" fee. AT THE SAME TIME, we had many other entrepreneurs selling the same book for $150 and even OVER THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS).

"Walterfive" wrote:
You really thought your autograph was worth as much as that?

As much as WHAT AMOUNT? My own signed books were offered at $45, the ORIGINAL UNSIGNED RETAIL PRICE.

And guess what, as the decades roll along, the signed books usually carry A LOT MORE in value. Signed books aways carry more "collector's value."

My signature is a scribble of ink. I never charged a penny for it. Your post is inflammatory and aggressive. Why don't you try saying what your psychological problem is in simple language. And please try to avoid your often used, quaint quote , "I'll bend you over and drive you home." Because … No you won't!


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"amadan-De" wrote:
…extensive "Inner World" experience as well as being "directly and magickally involved in the generation of many of (the 1966-67) sightings".

Yes indeed, this is the actually subject matter I am asking for.

"amadan-De" wrote:
I use the term 'claim' because there is no way that you or anyone else can demonstrate conclusively to another what goes on in your/their "Inner World"

Exactly. This is all subjective. I am only interested in hearing from people who have similar subjective experiences. Anyone else can watch & listen and (maybe) learn. I am not even remotely interested in demonstrating anything to you or others.

"amadan-De" wrote:
I … find your vetoing of "I believe", "I think" and "So and so said" bizarre in light of the obvious requirement for us to "believe" what you and some other "so and so's" have said (no insult to yourself or any other spokesman intended it's your term) from the start.

I am only interested in hearing from people who have similar subjective experiences. Anyone else can watch & listen and (maybe) learn. The last thing I would want anyone to do is (gasp) "believe."

"amadan-De" wrote:
There seems to be an agenda already operating here and the terms of discussion prevent any theoretical exploration or alternative views (i.e. I think it might be...what do you think?).

There is an agenda. It is to establish a link between individuals who are consciously connected to the Lodemaster. Other people may learn something, or they may recognize something, in any exchanges. Please feel free to open your own forum on " theoretical exploration or alternative views." I am asking for DIRECT EXPERIENCE, not theories.

I really do not expect much to come forth until the two free book(lets) have been transmitted and read. Then, those interested individuals may have some interesting commentary. Anyone who requested only one book will get two books. That is, the list is getting really long and I'll simply make the links to both books available to everyone on the list

As far a "subjectiveism," I don't believe I am under any scientific-materialistic obligation of objectivism - "except for lashtal's general requirement to not furnish false information.

I predict that a few people who have actually ridden in these fabulous ships of the inner planes, or who have gone even further and seen that they ARE these shining ships, will assemble around PMs and eventually email, leaving this thread filled with objectivists and sceptics.

The books will be available on Oct 8 (more or less). After that, we'll see what develops.

Did you know that there are several streams of the White Brotherhood, and one of them is based on a technological archetype we call UFOs? Did you know that there is a procedure, a curriculum, related to these ships that is just as precise as One Star in Sight? Did you know that this little-known lineage (because it's still secret - not like the Thelemic blabbermouths) is linked right into the A.'.A.'.? (OTO excluded - sorry - they don't have a written charter). Did you know that the Master Therion is held in esteem as a high authority in their paradigm?

If anyone wants the A.C. connection, it is Cubit 7.3 The Magus - The Word of the Aeon


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Ha! It's a chela hunt.

If you want "Inner World" experience - got loads and loads and loads. Why just the other night....but since you already 'know' where the conversation will end there is no point at all having it. But at least I 'know' why my first detailed post about my "Outer World" experiences was censored for me - atmosphere not conducive to 'life' outside a few certain predetermined classes.

As an aside you don't KNOW that there are several streams of the White Brotherhood etc. you BELIEVE this - and more power to you and your belief. BOM SHANKAR.


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"amadan-De" wrote:
Ha! It's a chela hunt.

Hardly 🙄 What a crass comment to aim at an old man who wishes to have chelas like he wants fleas.

To be Frank (well, I'm not, but I know him), I'm trying to open up insight into another dimension of the White Brotherhood, because a lot of people think it only means Crowley and the A.'.A.'.. With some of these other streams acknowledging Crowley, certainly a glance in their direction might be in order for the corageous.

Students, chelas, beginners & believers need not respond. There is nothing to teach here, nor anything to buy. The "free book" mailing list will not be retained after the books are transmitted, and you will never get spammed or forwarded to unless you are already on the Star System mailing list. One book describes the mechanism of ascension in "ship" form - an archetypal symbol. The other book sounds a humorous (but amazingly true) warning of great magnitude - If you want a "them" to get aggressive with, "they" are identified. "Now let it be first understood that I am a god of War and of Vengeance. I shall deal hardly with THEM."

The only people who qualify for "serious" recognition will already have been formally, on the physical plane, been inducted or initiated (not "abducted" - except through demonstrating the "secret handshake" as it were) into two independent streams. Get it? They already have two identifiable sponsors.

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"Shiva" wrote:
"Walterfive" wrote:
Now we get down to the insults. We (several of us - you have a fan club, you know) were wondering how long you would wait before you appeared again on lashtal with your snide remarks and baseless braggadocio, especially after your last embarrassing display of "LACK OF RATIONAL CONTROL" a few months ago. Now you want to wade in with more inaccurate sludge.

Months later... I've held my tongue, kept my piece, and the first time I speak up, you start screaming like a heretic at an auto du fe. How sweet, you sat and *waited* to be victimized by me? I must admit, your whole letter sounded rather rehearsed. I ought to feel complimented. You're sitting behind your keyboard trolling bait like 'many members of the Oriental persuasion blah-blah-blah' and I'm to believe you're speaking of the Chinese? Japanese? Koreans? Thais? You want to be able to poke people with a stick, and then whine about "inaccurate sludge" when you feel free to negatively and prejudiciously slight the members of an otherwise worthy and active tax-free organization? Nope. Not when I see it. I don't call foul-- I just give back a little more than what's been given. You don't like that, don't poke the Beast in me--don't needlessly insult, harangue, or stereotypify the Caliphate or its Initiates.

If I read this correctly, you are demeaning my sterling character, and falsely accusing me of illegal proceedings in relation to book sales. How crude.

Ah, the "sterling character" of a member of the Burlingame's Solar Lodge. How droll. Like I said, the Caliph still has the rug that the Solar Lodge thieves rolled Mrs. Germer up in. How many of those stolen manuscripts were destroyed in that fire, anyway?

You might note that my publisher handles all formal book we had many other entrepreneurs selling the same book for $150 and even OVER THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS).

Ah, and we see "how quickly the 4th Power of the Sphinx becomes a tattered rag" for those of the Solar Lodge persuasion. But yes--That's the one I saw-- personally autographed and illuminated or with some sort of illustration, advertised as "one of a kind." You expect me to believe weren't responsible for it? That you made nothing off the sale? Look, whatever I may think of you privately, you aren't stupid. And you expect us to believe you're not cashing in on the notorious reputation of the Solar Lodge here, in a forum you are fully aware is *filled* with Crowleyites and Thelemites hostile to the Caliphate? I never saw an autographed edition offered by your publisher. I looked. I collect autographed editions. The only place I ever saw yours was on E-Bay... being shilled for over $300, as you so rudely shouted in the previous paragraph.

My signature is a scribble of ink. I never charged a penny for it. Your post is inflammatory and aggressive. Why don't you try saying what your psychological problem is in simple language. And please try to avoid your often used, quaint quote , "I'll bend you over and drive you home." Because … No you won't!

Gee, you are just full of well-rehearsed accusations here, aren't you? Well, I agree with you-- your signature isn't worth a penny. And $300+ certainly *isn't* a penny, so if you did sell it for that you're technically not lying. Have a nice day.


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Christibrany: Ive been interested in Joseph Farrel's work for quite awhile but do not have the time to read his books..Initially, his planet X. enuma elish, themed stuff really caught my eye and Ive had his "reich of the black sun" wish listed for years, thanks for the link.
Regarding UFOs, Interdimensional ? Extradimensional ? Djinn? Machine Elves ?The Grays ? .... I dont know where to begin...Ive never seen one sober!
This thread had/has potential ...


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Walterfive, could I respectfully ask that you take your quarrel with Shiva elsewhere. Whatever its merits, It is not relevant to this thread.


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"Shiva" wrote:
"amadan-De" wrote:
Ha! It's a chela hunt.

Hardly 🙄 What a crass comment to aim at an old man who wishes to have chelas like he wants fleas.

It was a quip/joke/leg-pull (certainly not a world-class one but...). What is it about US occultists that makes so many of them take themselves so damn seriously? As if anything I said would have any weight anywhere anyway - I'm a fool and happy to admit it.* What's your excuse? <---yep that's another one.

*(it's even in my nom-de-guerre Google Carmina Gadelica and look me up :)).

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No more responses now.

Yessir. *scuttling back to the wainscot to make penance*


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The $300 edition was (and still is, I think) for sale by Rex Emporium in Australia. I have made, nor will I make, any fee if it eversells at that ridiculously high price - nor from any other second hand source. Weiser Antiquarian offered anybody a signed and sealed copy in the first week. They had to send me extra boxes of books to sign, because the first week's demand was so overwhelming. Now they use "book-plates" - it's easier on the exorbinant shipping rates.

Other than that, I'll take Michael's cue and bow out of any conflict about Caliphs and cranky Beasts. END OF DISCUSSION WITH, OF, OR ABOUT W5. (period)


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"Shiva" wrote:
No more responses now.
"amadan-De" wrote:
[Yessir. *scuttling back to the wainscot to make penance*

No more responses actually due to having to attend a doctor's appointment. Old people go to the doctor a lot, even if they are one themselves.

In terms of penance, let me introduce a scenario from the second page of Encounters with the Light:

5. I was trained to mentally pilot the ship by the ship itself. I saw no other beings; this was a one-man ship, although it could be (and was) used to evacuate refugees from the cruel, invading forces. There was a telepathic link with some directing intelligence, but that contact came from a source outside of the ship - much like a control tower or a central command ship.
6. Initially, the ship was used exclusively for search and rescue purposes, and later to enact demonstrations over populated cities in concert with other ships.

That should be a good enough opener to allow kindred recognition or to provoke astonished bewilderment. "Call the Inquisition" I say! 😯


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Shiva... you're being very up front about this. Most people need to deal with the experience sideways first in a place they feel safe, and the best way to do that is to reference the commonality of experience... even very weird experiences. Best address inner space before quantum entanglement in outer space. . .

Has anyone else dreamt about 'The Shape Changing Room' on a UFO?

I dreamt about it and then my daughter dreamt about it, and that's what she called it. I'm guessing there is some type of formative archetypal significance given the Amerindian legends and I'm betting that others will have had a likewise dream.


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"MichaelStaley" wrote:
Walterfive, could I respectfully ask that you take your quarrel with Shiva elsewhere. Whatever its merits, It is not relevant to this thread.

Certainly Micheal. I don't think Shiva and I have much more to say to each other about anything important on this subject. Seems the simplest comment I make causes him to make anti-Caliphate statments. "Many members of the Oriental persuasion..." indeed.

Sorry to have missed you last Saturday at Treadwell's, but it was a beautiful day in West Wycombe, perfect weather to see Dashwood's Masoleum, the Hell Fire Caves, and convene with the Brothers and Sisters of the Priory of the Knights of St. Francis. And a glorious time *was* had by all. 🙂 Hope you can come out and rub elbows with us some time. I'll be going back next year.

In LVX,

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"Dar" wrote:
Has anyone else dreamt about 'The Shape Changing Room' on a UFO?

In full (chemically-primed consciousness) - not a "dream," the "room changed into an UFO:

"About twenty of us sat quietly in an LSD-enhanced meditation within a large steel buiding. In utter stillness, a distant, high-pitched whine descended into a lower-pitched rumble, yet it was still way up in the spectrum of electronic sound.
As the sound became louder and louder, the steel walls of our building begin to ripple and wave as their form was magnetically bent into the bell shape of the original flying saucer - except this was not a one- or a two-man ship. This was a cruiser designed to carry many people, and it was big!
Just as we began to lift off, Frater Sol leaped to his feet and cried out loudly, "I don't want to die ! " - instantly breaking the vision back into nineteen people sitting, and one standing, inside a cold metal building."
-Behind the Veil (c)30111 by ASI


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Yes... *giggles*

How are you finding quantum biology when it comes to consciousness these days?

There are some atavistic aliens that think the whole scientific paradigm in the ascendant is missing something, and they are social outcasts among their own... but they're exactly the sort that bothers to contact us. The rest are too scientific to bother (quite frankly).

Yeah... I know Frank too. 😛


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Marked for later reading.


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Some of Michael Persinger's stuff is quite interesting.

"Persinger has also come to public attention due to his 1975 Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) of how geophysical variables may correlate with sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) or Marian apparitions. Persinger argued that strain within the Earth's crust near seismic faults produces intense electromagnetic (EM) fields, creating bodies of light that some interpret as glowing UFOs or The Virgin Mary. Alternatively, he argued that the EM fields generate hallucinations in the temporal lobe, based on images from popular culture, of alien craft, beings, communications, or creatures."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger

However, I don't have any personal accounts of UFO experiences, so this probably gets to Shiva's trash can. 🙄


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Links to Encounters and Silicon was just sent by email to authorized requesters.

The technical intereference and inordinate complexity was worthy of three legions of disruptors ... maybe four.


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"Shiva" wrote:
Links to Encounters and Silicon was just sent by email to authorized requesters.

Hmmm… Just for absolute clarity - though I hope it's not necessary - this is a mailing list being generated by Shiva and has nothing whatsoever to do with LAShTAL.COM. Curious that it's not just submitted as a Download from this site, though. Maybe the rest of us are just not worthy, or maybe it has nothing to do with the raison d'être of this site?

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"lashtal" wrote:
Maybe the rest of us are just not worthy, or maybe it has nothing to do with the raison d'être of this site?

Maybe the original concept involved a 50 Mb document that had no way to deliver except by private email and transfer services. I have managed to work around that, so now even the "unworthy" can gain access through a newly dicovered methodology.

Maybe the other document was too big for the 1 Mb lashtal attachment limit that I ran into the llast time I tried to share something of "size." But mow I've found a home for that also, so every infidel gets to be worthy.

The raison d'être goes like this: Crowley > Lam > Grant > Magickal UFOs as by-products of ceremonial energy. Thus we have Encounters with the Light. The raison for Silicon Exposé is: Magickal UFOs > Documented UFOs > Effect on normal consciousness worthy of every Thelemite's worthy consideration - probably only peripherally connected to lashtal's raison d'être, but inherently connected to Encounters with the Light, and thus it's a bundled package.

Please stand by for Worthiness.


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THERE ARE TWO DOWNLOAD LINKS HERE.

(1) The first is a DIRECT LINK to "Encounters with the Light." This is a complete, but unfinished document. That is, the whole story is told, but there may be room for more pictures, and the wording may be re-arranged. Here is the Link:
http://palomaryoga.angelfire.com/Encounters_with_the_Light.pd f"> http://palomaryoga.angelfire.com/Encounters_with_the_Light.pdf

(2) The second is an INDIRECT LINK to "Silicon Exposé." This is a complete, finished document. This is an example of Hyterical Non-fiction. It's all true. Here is the Link:
http://uploading.com/files/75c9mac4/Silicone%2BExpos%25C3%25A9.pdf /"> http://uploading.com/files/75c9mac4/Silicone%2BExpos%25C3%25A9.pdf/
Choose the (free) WAIT FOR DOWNLOAD 10 MINS - really it's only 45 seconds.
Click FREE DOWNLOAD (again) after counter reaches OO (zero-zero).

These files will be available for a few days only.

All links are tested and all prophets true.


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while myself never experienced a typical "UFO" sighting, i would like to refer you to two excellent (imho) articles regarding the 'magical' aspect of certain UFO experiences.

http://www.gmkelly.com/ufo-1.html
http://www.gmkelly.com/ufo-2.html


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Shiva
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"k4n3" wrote:
i would like to refer you to two ...

GM Kelly is not the best person to be quoting/referencing on lashtal forums. He has a reputation that precedes him, similar to David Icke.

Kelly's first book (that you so kindly introduced in the middle of a request to not quote others), is basically a dialog with Streiber. I can agree with Kelly's final position:


"The Daemon, the supraconscious has always been with us, but it is often perceived differently, by different people, according to different belief systems and levels of technological advancement, at different periods of time in human history. Whether King of the Fairies, UFOnauts or Holy Guardian Angel, certain characteristic demand a certain typical kind of symbolic interpretation revealing the supraconscious - ourselves in the future, so to speak, our full potential realized. To this, "the Beloved", should we move and not flee, being ever careful not to fall for the tricks and deceptions of the subconscious "demons" that, by nature, not by "evil", seek to keep us from taking the Next Step."

Kelly's 2nd book (that you so kindly introduced in the middle of a request to not quote others, is basically ANOTHER dialog with Streiber. I can agree with one of Kelly's statements:

"Mr. Strieber claims to have encountered four basic types of "visitors" - he was, in fact, the visitor into their realms or levels of consciousness - and in the previous UFO EL I have identified them as personifications of his voluntary and involuntary physical functions, psychological complexes or "demons", and as for the very unique "visitor" with whom he felt a special, intimate, even sensual connection, this was the supraconscious mind or Self, fully realized - one's self in the future, the Genius, Atman, Augoeides, Zeitgest, Holy Guardian Angel, True Self, etc., etc. - "the Lord", "the Beloved", with which so many religious and esoteric philosophies tell us we are to seek union with."

Both of these references are KELLY SPEAKING ABOUT STREIBER. A talker explaining an experienced talker.

We are looking for our own DIRECT EXPERIENCE (documented, in dreams, internal, psychedelic). Why do people keep offering OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS? Anyone can google "UFO" and get their own endless list.

How about:

8. After a while, I graduated to a different style of ship, one that moved forward along a line instead of constantly spinning upon its own anti-gravitational, magnetic axis. Although this sleek new ship could "turn on a dime," it was much more difficult to control because there was an added dimension in its operation. This ship was a "speedster," but it was not triangular or winged; it retained the circular form, yet was more streamlined than the primitive "bell-ship." These ships were for transportation to conferences and the enactment of specific events.
- Encounters with the Loght (c) 2011 ASI

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"lashtal" wrote:
"Shiva" wrote:
Links to Encounters and Silicon was just sent by email to authorized requesters.

Hmmm… Just for absolute clarity - though I hope it's not necessary - this is a mailing list being generated by Shiva and has nothing whatsoever to do with LAShTAL.COM. Curious that it's not just submitted as a Download from this site, though. Maybe the rest of us are just not worthy, or maybe it has nothing to do with the raison d'être of this site?

I imagine it is quite clear to anyone with the intellectual acuity to click this far into the thread that these are Shiva's writings he is making available via email. Perhaps Shiva prefers to maintain control over his own intellectual property and not have it hosted on LAShTAL. It seems valid and I cannot imagine why you would take issue with that. You may recall a user who took it upon himself once to repackage and post Shiva's work as a download and you had the consideration to check with the author as to his preference and copyright claim. Shiva elected to maintain his own work independently. I don't imagine any user should feel compelled to host their personal work on the site, unless you are suggesting this is your preference.

If you want a copy email and ask. He tends to show some consideration, out of character with the modern age, by avoiding spamming those who didn't request his work directly.


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We are looking for our own DIRECT EXPERIENCE (documented, in dreams, internal, psychedelic).

One eventful Saturday afternoon, I happened to look out of a south bedroom window, and to my amazement I saw a small flying saucer moving slowly to the east across the 30 acres of land behind my house, which is pasture land. The UFO stopped momentarily and emitted a beam of light from beneath the craft that was as wide as the craft itself, which left a round burnt spot in the wild grass. Both astonished and excited by what I was seeing, I ran out the front door and around to the west side of the house for a better look, but the view of the craft was obscured by some tall trees behind my house.

I ran around the front of the house to the east side with the hope of catching another glimpse before the craft passed out of sight, only to be confronted by a massive craft that had banked to the left and was now passing over my house. I was immediately struck with fear and tried to run back in the house, only to be hindered by an incredibly powerful force that pulled at my body, like a magnetic attracting metal. I managed to get a hand hold on the knob of the front door, and with my last ounce of strength, I forced my way into the house.

Suddenly, I awoke and sat up in bed with the dream crystal clear in my mind; I walked over to the window and looked out at the pasture land expecting see nothing, only to see the round burnt spot left by the flying saucer! Then, I really did wake up.

I have been exploring the Universe the last two years with a new magical alphabet, and since such activities qualify as falling within the realm of personal experience, and since Shiva inspired the subject matter, I leave you with some alphanumerical food for thought:

Spaceships = 93
Alien Visitors = 93
The Secret Chiefs = 93

Portrait of Lam = 102
Extraterrestrial = 102
The Alien Airships = 102

Inorganic Being = 136
Extra-human Being = 136
The Flying Saucers = 136
Alien Space Flight = 136
Parallel Universe = 136


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"Shiva" wrote:
GM Kelly is not the best person to be quoting/referencing on lashtal forums. He has a reputation that precedes him, similar to David Icke.

that is your opinion which is quite different from mine. Crowley had also a reputation that preceded him while he was still alive. until now i didn't know who David Icke is, but from quick look at his site and his ideas i really don't see how one can compare Kelly's reputation with his.

"Shiva" wrote:
Kelly's first book (that you so kindly introduced in the middle of a request to not quote others), is basically a dialog with Streiber. I can agree with Kelly's final position:


"The Daemon, the supraconscious has always been with us (...)."

it is not a book, it is an article, which he calls an encyclical letter, to be precise.

"Shiva" wrote:
Kelly's 2nd book (that you so kindly introduced in the middle of a request to not quote others, is basically ANOTHER dialog with Streiber. I can agree with one of Kelly's statements:

"Mr. Strieber claims to have encountered four basic types of "visitors" (...)".

the second article (not a book) is not another dialog with Strieber (again it's Strieber, not Streiber). maybe about 5% of the second article mentions Strieber's experiences and the previous EL that comments upon them. I wouldn't also call it a dialog which by definition is a spoken or written exchange between two or more people, and if you take a closer look the first article you should see it is merely a comment or review of Strieber's book "Communion".

"Shiva" wrote:
Both of these references are KELLY SPEAKING ABOUT STREIBER. A talker explaining an experienced talker.

i don't know why you want to denigrate Kelly's ideas by calling him "a talker explaining en experienced talker". if one reads the articles carefully enough, one would see that the ideas presented there are based on author's personal experience.

"Shiva" wrote:
We are looking for our own DIRECT EXPERIENCE (documented, in dreams, internal, psychedelic). Why do people keep offering OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS? Anyone can google "UFO" and get their own endless list.

i apologize that i can't offer my own experiences in that matter.
i only felt that what Kelly had to say in regards to UFO phenomenon is very informative and enlightening, and worth mentioning here despite "the reputation that precedes him".

also isn't it against site guidelines to quote lengthy comments from copyrighted material, as i was kindly informed by the admin in my recent posts?


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"herupakraath" wrote:
Suddenly, I awoke and sat up in bed with the dream crystal clear in my mind...

This "crystal clear" quality is usually a giveaway sign that an archetypal force has been contacted or interfaced. I am familiar ith it (as are many readers, of course) and it occurs frequently in conjunction with ships.

Look who was watching from the left-hand column as I wrote this short note:


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"k4n3" wrote:
that is your opinion - also isn't it against site guidelines to quote lengthy comments from copyrighted material, as i was kindly informed by the admin in my recent posts?

Actually, I agree with KELLY on many, many things. He and I share a secret knowledge of certain political affairs. But, he is still regarded as a bit strange by many lashtalians - I believe my opinion differs from many others.

I saw no lengthy quotes of any kind. I saw certain paragraphs quoted, certainly within the range of "fair use" and any quotes of my material is copyrighted by me and I can post entire books of that nature without fear of getting sued by myself.

I am not in CONTROL of this forum. I just started this thread and asked for the DIRECT INPUT without external quotes. I openly offered to desparage "quoters." Are you the poster boy for the "Let's quote all those other fellows" society? We are trying to discuss fabulous flights and conversations with the cohorts of Lam, and you are running on about how to spell some OTHER PERSON'S name and how you got shot down because you overshot the "fair use" monster quote limit.

Now ... in order to get back on track, you force me to resort to another (obviously deranged) quote from Encounters with the Light:

"Trinity knocked a hole in the electromagnetic ionosphere - the planet's protective etheric web. Subsequent worldwide above-ground applications and tests blew out similar holes. An increase in cosmic radiation has been measured beneath these holes. The planetary etheric web is our isolation, our quarantine, from cosmic conflict. That quarantine was terminated by Trinity and it is now being gradually lifted.
The veil of the etheric sheath is being opened. The "reality" of other planes is impinging upon human consciousness and it is being impressed (incarnated) into dense physical matter.
The effects of cosmic synchromesh are often ephemeral, coming and going within our "reality."
But there is always that which remains …"

- Encounters with the Light (c)2011 by ASI


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Frater A.'. says (by PM):
Welcome, Shiva! in 15° : in 9° : Anno IVxix
Many Thanks, reading now.
These documents look to be of very great interest and resonate with my own preoccupations!

I replied (and post it here on-thread for its unusual nature):

LET IT BE CLEAR that there IS a column, a sequence, a methodology of ascended (ascension of) consciousness that is a parallel stream to Transhimalaya (Theosophy, Lucis, Lighted Way) [not Summit Lighthouse, but I guess they're trying], and A.'.A.'., and others, and they're all aimed at the "point." This "column" utilizes the "orb" shape of what appears to be a flying ship at lower levels. This is ALL on the inner - a well-defined archetype. Outer expressions (sightings, abductions, influence, communications) are either magickal "leakage," or intentional projections, or superimposed mystical experiences. There may also be mankind's attempt(s) to reproduce these visions or leakages.

But it's primarily an inner phenomenon. You are your own ship. It's shape is determined by your astral-mental energy field (aura). This can be shaped and bent. Typhonia suggests the shape of an egg - the shape of the head of Lam. My own instructions said: More Later.


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My previous post was disrupted by strange browser-window phenomena. I recently upgraded to the higher grades (8=3 IE) and (6 = FieryFox - now defunct after only 2 weeks). Consistent with this forced upgrade (they "made me do it!" They said, "We no longer support your antiquated browser. You are a Trogolodyte."), I noted that I cannot format or even see the type in lashtal's window box if my comments exceed 15 lines. XV = The Devil, of course. So I'm going to have to keep my comments short (about 2 normal paragraphs) and within the window, or I'll be going insane (faster than already). I have typed all this in Word.doc and will cut and paste it to lashtal. This is all just an excuse for the many typos I have seen in my normally impeckerable work.

NOW, to continue where the prior post got chopped off by The Black Lodge, here is the final f**king secret, and you better believe it … or don't:

From the vast nothingness which is pure energy, I gather up myself ... and that I might be that which I Am, I radiate light, love, power.
There is naught but what I have radiated. There is nothing that is not of me. All Masters, Devas, Worlds, Humans, and Atoms are but manifestations of a single ray of my Light.
Would you be devoted? Be devoted to me.
Would you create? Create by me and in my name.
All are my Sons & Daughters.
Tune to me, and in tuning, this is the symbol:

An electric white globe from which flows Light, Energy, and Magnetism.

Go into the center; sit; and do not be, nor not be.
Gather nothingness. Concentrate this, and let it flow in all directions.
You are then tuned to Me, and all will be aright.
I am that I Am.
This then is the Key to The Book of Life."
-The Book of Life and Death ©1974 by Star System

I guess an egg and a globe and an orb are similar, but who am I?


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