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02/04/2019 12:50 pm  

You feel no 7.83 Hz vibration coming out of your speakers because there are almost no speakers available that can reproduce a frequency below about 25-30 Hz no matter how much money you spend, because, as you mention, we can't hear anything much below that.

Frequencies that low (infra-sonic (i initially said sub-sonic, but that is the chirping of spring birds compared to the frequencies we are discussing)) are going to be perceived, if at all, as movement/vibration, not sound. The lowest sound needed for anything resembling music is about 16 Hz, the lowest note of a pipe-organ.

There are a couple ultra-high-end, very very expensive "audiophile" subwoofers that claim they can get to 10 Hz; snake-oil is rampant in so-called "audiophile" gear, so i am skeptical that any of this gear can actually do this. No pro music gear of which i am aware purports to do this, since it is not useful in a professional music/film-sound capacity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

Our dear departed sister Alrah once, during one of her episodes of being less than entirely hinged, claimed she had an uncle in a British army unit that blew up walls using infra-sonic loudspeakers. I recently cited this as evidence of the "lunatics love lashtal in the Spring" theory.


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02/04/2019 4:07 pm  

To be clear, and fair to Alrah's certainly-not-imaginary uncle: it is absolutely theoretically possible to knock down/blow up a wall with infrasound.

You will need transducers ("speakers" hardly applies to these things that do not speak, ie make sounds) much more robust than the wall you intend to knock down, and an amplifier of considerable power given the inverse square law; a few billion watts may suffice if you are almost in contact with said wall, though it would be a shame to bury such expensive equipment in the ensuing rubble.

It would be somewhat of an understatement to note that most military units are able to destroy walls much more economically than this. A former bandmate who had been a Marine told me that a Marine rifle squad can reduce a three story New York tenement to rubble within half an hour employing their "organic capacity", a quaint military term for "the stuff they normally carry".
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Note i realized might be helpful for the out-of-towners: a "tenement" is a residential building, originally with 6 apartments, 2 per floor, sometimes now subdivided into more, built in the late 19th-early 20th century out of brick and/or stone according to a standardized design mostly mandated by NYC law. A fairly large, and very solid, kind of building. Many, if not most, residents of Manhattan, the Bronx, and Brooklyn live in these buildings (i did from 19-52). Crowley lived in several, so we are totally OT for the site here.


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02/04/2019 4:55 pm  

Ignant, what you have written is/was my understanding also; which is why I resorted to question-mode, late last night. I guess I'll have to go looking for that very same generator I mentioned earlier: the one that NASA stuck in the early space capsules to keep some aspect of the astronaut's being "grounded."

I know they exists, because I held one in my hand (during a seminar featuring the electrical measurement and treatment of acupoints and channels.


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02/04/2019 5:05 pm  

@Ignant666

Correct me if I am wrong (and I feel I should be more definitively knowledgeable about these things being a musician and sometime producer) but although most speakers and headphones cannot get below 15hz or so, my understanding is that in recordings such as I posted, the frequency or tone is being 'created' by our mind as a kind of aural illusion via the binaural beats? So the equipment is physically producing 2 tones that interface is such a way as to almost phase out but instead create a third phantom frequency 'between our ears'? hence such binaural beats still being effective?

Furthermore there are certain headphones that can get down to 5hz regardless of it you are 'hearing' it or not, it will still be processed by your organismi.

That is not even mentioning the harmonic theory, ie tones of 15.66, 31.32hz etc that harmonise with the tone will also 'create' it in our perception?


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02/04/2019 5:16 pm  

Also Shiva,

are you not hearing anything coming out at all? There are a lot of frequencies in that recording, not just the root that they are going for. I use professional mixing monitors (from KRK) and I definitely get a kind of wobbly effect going on in my head when I play that.


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02/04/2019 5:24 pm  

I don't know about all these frequencies, but I do know that there is a guy who parks a Hummer in the garage across the street, and when he's idling the engine it creates a sonic effect in parts of my house that affect my heart rate; in other places, and close to the vehicle, it does not. The same goes for the same guy's motorcycle. I hate it. But it is not the only time in my life that certain sized engines have produced this effect; it is very annoying.


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02/04/2019 5:31 pm  

You (christibrany) are correct that beating frequencies might possibly be induced that may cause perception of infrasonics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(acoustics)#Binaural_beats

by listening to two different but close frequencies, one in each ear, on headphones.

This is very much subject to the quality of every portion of the audio chain, from recording, to youtube audio algorithms, network transmission, audio gremlins within the individual computer, digital to analog convertors of same, headphone quality, and possible differential hearing loss, resonant frequencies of ear canals, tone perception, brain differences, weather, phase of the moon, local hunting and fishing license practice, and the time of day, among other variables.

There are no-snakeoil headphones (but not speakers) that will reproduce down to 4 Hz. i recommend the high end products of gradolabs.com (made in Brooklyn USA) to anyone with lots of cash and a need to hear subsonic frequencies accurately reproduced; the PS1000e will get you down to 5 Hz for a mere $1695. Be sure to read up on the "brown note" (see wikipedia link above) first, and prepare accordingly. They also will let you (or your pet dog or bat) "listen to" frequencies two and a half times higher than what teenagers can hear (high frequency hearing falls off with age), all the way up to 50,000 Hz. This may, if you are a teenager, allow you to hear "the language of the birds" so esteemed by Sufi mystics, or you could just go outside (if you are in the northern hemisphere), speaking of spring birds.

Sane folk may enjoy their Reference series products, but they only reproduce the full audio spectrum of 20-20,000 Hz.


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02/04/2019 5:57 pm  

In addition to very expensive headphones, those anxious to test the "brown note", or other infrasonic effects (said to include sensing the presence of ghosts, and other intriguing things), on themselves will want an oscilloscope or other very wide range wave generator (some synthesizers, and synth oscillator modules, can also do these tones), or, failing that (but perhaps, but not certainly, iffy quality for this purpose), the software equivalent. This will eliminate many, but not all of, the variables i mention above.

I would buy the Grado PS1000e headphones, and an old oscilloscope at a military-junk/industrial parts store, or ham radio enthusiast swap meet, if this were something i were interested in. So not too far north of two thousand American Freedom Tickets, or the equivalent in your government's local form of champagne coupon, will enable you to possibly see ghosts, shit yourself, and be in tune with the planet's resonance (maan).
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02/04/2019 6:00 pm  

Thanks for bolstering my ego ignant 😛 I figured I knew what I was talking about but it's always good to have peer validation in the LAShTAL journal.

In regards to speakers vs headphones I believe there is a binaural effect via speakers as well but it is no where near as good as headphones and you have to be pretty up close to the sound source.

I have some hearing loss in my left ear from a viral infection 🙁 It is super low frequencies actually. I forget which ones though luckily not ones that 'matter.' That was a scary week. From muffled hearing like 'The Peanuts parents' to straight ringing that was so loud I could not hear anyone speaking in that ear, needless to say I high-tailed it to the doctor for some steroids pronto which luckily worked before I lost hearing. Then of course there is bound to be some high frequency loss due to my cymbals, gun fire, concerts, etc. . .


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02/04/2019 7:33 pm  

Weather is getting nice .
Things seem to be getting buzzin batty

elite must be with his busy cats

and my Interferometer is still trying to figure out how to get the graphemes out of the Phoneme with random spike variables without digits .


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02/04/2019 8:04 pm  

Infrasound will get you where it Hertz!

[badoom-CRASH! Thank you very much, ladies and germs, i'm here all week]


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02/04/2019 8:31 pm  

*applause*


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03/04/2019 12:59 am  

@ignant666 :

This is very much subject to the quality of every portion of the audio chain, from recording, to youtube audio algorithms, network transmission, audio gremlins within the individual computer, digital to analog convertors of same, headphone quality, and possible differential hearing loss, resonant frequencies of ear canals, tone perception, brain differences, weather, phase of the moon, local hunting and fishing license practice, and the time of day, among other variables.
Ear wax most especially, too. It is quite incredible how much difference in quality clearing the old lugholes of excess wax makes, similar to the effect when you can hear better after your ears 'pop' following a change in altitude (pressure). A lot cheaper and simpler to deal with than all these other variables in the "audio chain" as well...

So not too far north of two thousand American Freedom Tickets, or the equivalent in your government’s local form of champagne coupon, will enable you to possibly see ghosts, shit yourself, and be in tune with the planet’s resonance (maan).
Am I imagining it, or correct in detecting the merest soupcon of skepticism re. the sacred cow of the Schumann resonance here?

Infrasound will get you where it Hertz
BOOM … BOOM ...
"Sounds" as if this Infrasound might well be infra-dig

Boom, boom! I feng you kin'ly, ladeesgemmun (quite certain that my puns are even more dreadful than yours),
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03/04/2019 1:43 am  

JB: It would indeed be fair to say that i am less than entirely impressed with the utility of such infrasound experiments. I believe Throbbing Gristle, or perhaps Psychic TV, and quite likely other industrial music folk, did some infrasound fiddling involving very large speakers and amplifiers; no idea where one might find any write-ups. There are peculiar, fairly-widely attested effects to be explored, but i do somehow get through each day without doing so.

The Schumann resonance is a natural phenomenon involving not soundwaves, but EM/RF waves. What, if any, effect(s) variations of it may have on humans seems pretty unknown, at least to me.

Soundwaves i know a fair amount about, as an electronic music geek, and former music studio owner and recordist. EM/RF on the other hand is mostly Greek to me. When we approach the edges of scientific practice, we often encounter silliness and woo-woo. Color me casually curious, but wary.


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03/04/2019 5:52 am  

I remember a non-apocryphal (?) anecdote to the effect that when there were some highly obnoxious people bothering the Throbbing Gristle crew they turned on a sub-sonic audio generator and departed; when they returned the pests had cleared out permanently.


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03/04/2019 6:10 am  

Ig: Soundwaves i know a fair amount about ... EM/RF on the other hand is mostly Greek to me

Thank you for pointing out the difference. I read and speak this version of Greek, having earned a General Class Amateur Radio License at the age of 13 (1953). This made me desireable to the United States Army, which sent me for specialized training in "Fixed Station Operation and Maintenance." A "Fixed Station" is a radio station, set up in a fixed location (not mobile) to inform and enterain the troops.

However, I don't remember any mention, anywhere along the way, about 7.83 Hz or its usage. I believe the super-low frequency of 2 Hz is used for communicating with submarines under water. The wave travels through the Earth & Sea, and is very slow. They communicate with three digit codes, like "IAO" or "PAN," and it takes several hours for the transmitted signal to reach the sub.

This entire subject is complex and little understood. Yes, there are sound/ultrasound waves, currently being used by naughty nations to bombard their enemies' embassies (see daily news), resulting in headaches, dizziness, nausea. I understand we (USA) used this on a large scale in the Iraq maneuvers.

Then there's this Schumann Rez, which exhibits a direct cause-effect on my blood pressure, et al, but obviously not everyone or maybe not most of everyone.

Next we have the CMEs (Coronal Mass Ejection), which is where Ra shoots a stream of plasma at us, resulting in "Solar Winds," about a weeki later, which tinkers with Malkuth's magnetic field and stirs weather (this last one wasn't very strong).

Then we have polarized light (lasers) that scan our purchases at the grocery store, heal/seal brain leaks, and are used rountinely in acupuncture (for those practitioners who can afford them). They can also blind a person in an instant.

Out of all this, we will be safe to rely on one basic theorum; Where electricity flows, a magnetic field is generated. A magnetic field can be tapped to produce electricity. That's why the term, electromagnetism, has been invented. Does this affect human physiology and consciousness? Yes. How? Now under study.

See also: Electric Chair; electro-shock therapy.


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03/04/2019 6:29 am  

PS: [excerpted quote]:

Introduction:

FM783 Schumann wave system reference Japanese acoustic god acoustic revive RR-888 circuit and production design, while doubling the amount of coil, radiation than the original version of the strong.
FM783 is a small device can produce ultra-low frequency, the resulting very low frequency frequency of 7.83Hz.

Schumann's interpretation of excerpts:

Schumann pointed out in 1952 that the Earth and the ionosphere can form a resonant cavity with a special resonant frequency that is determined mainly by the size of the Earth and excited by a global lightning discharge. The resonant frequency is called Schumann Resonance. The Schumann resonance spectrum is in the ELF band with a frequency of around 8 Hz The alpha wave and the θ wave of the human brain are also close to 7.8 Hz , So some people will Schumann resonance known as the "Earth's brain waves."

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12/04/2019 9:42 am  

Ignant666 Infrasound will get you where it Hertz!

so will interferometers .....the boss which glows

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12/04/2019 7:30 pm  

If anyone is considering/weighing whether this Schumann Resonance 7.83 variation is affecting themselves or closely observable others, it should be noted that we are in a massive "whiteout" (see it on the right side of the graph below) that is steady, elevated, and really strong.

4/12 17:00 UTC – The variation did not end with the previous peak, after about 2 hours where it has been above 55 Hz, at 15:30 UTC the amplitude went to 60 Hz to continue for the time until this update into very high values.

SR Today


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12/04/2019 10:21 pm  

CTHULHU PHTAGN! THE OLD ONES SHALL RISE! THEIR ELDRITCH HORROR WILL OVER-

just kidding 🙂

*slithers off*


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05/09/2019 11:23 am  

Tate Britain, the art gallery on Millbank, is holding a large exhibition on the poet William Blake from September 11th 2019 to spring 2020.

Blake is a saint in the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica and attendance is therefore compulsory. It is eighteen quid! £17 for concs: a whole pound off.

It might be worth it, though:

Please be aware that the art of William Blake contains strong and sometimes challenging imagery, including some depictions of cruelty, suffering, sexual violence and the brutal treatment of enslaved people.

The best way to get there is to go to Vauxhall Bus station and take the bus 87 (going towards Aldwych). It's only two stops.


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05/09/2019 3:03 pm  

Lol such PC crap

Please be aware that the art of William Blake contains strong and sometimes challenging imagery

@all
What the hell is 'strong imagery'? If you can tell me, what then is 'weak imagery'?

William Blake is great for sure.

@Alan
What is a conc?


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05/09/2019 6:37 pm  

cs: (ao) Please be aware that the art of William Blake contains strong and sometimes challenging imagery

cs: What the hell is ‘strong imagery’? If you can tell me, what then is ‘weak imagery’?

What the hell is an exhibition of Blake's "strong imagery" doing here in this Spring Birds forum? ... which is/was devoted to seasonal madness amongst posters.


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05/09/2019 10:46 pm  

@christibrany :

What is a conc?

'Conc' or 'concs' is a typo for 'conch'. If you go along and produce one on entry, you will get a whole quid (£1) off. You may have to blow it as well to prove to them that it's a real conch and not an imitation.

Discounts are often given to conch-bearers in the UK, didn't you know? (Those qualified may also possibly be registered as concessionaries such as students, people with a disability or old age pensioners).

As it is said: "Never be without your beach towel or your conch"
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05/09/2019 11:03 pm  

@Shiva :

What the hell is an exhibition of Blake’s “strong imagery” doing here in this Spring Birds forum? … which is/was devoted to seasonal madness amongst posters.

What the hell is anything doing anywhere, anyhow, anyways... Especially in such a thread marked "Spring birds", to boot?

All is not aught after all & there is division on the homeward trail hither and thither, as it were.

No sense. No pack-drill. No refunds. And the Management accepts No responsibility for anything either.

N Joy


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06/09/2019 1:16 am  

ahh spring is sprung and it is soo awesome.. dry but awesome.....

I have a rainbow lorikeet tree <3 all "my" birds plus many more have come home for breeding season and they sit in the drought affected custard apple tree waiting for me with my green bucket noisily screeching away. In twos, cuddling mates, most of them all paired up loved up to breed up the new generation of beauty.,... all day i listen to the birds, so many different species all chattering away...

We got a new Bull.. The Landlord.. "I hate that word" says the old bull that I loved broke one of the cows backs, so he got rid of that one and got a new smaller bull.. basically we only had a couple of calves last year, Lordy came to preg test the cows and got rid of the girls who weren't pregnant.. well hello maybe, just maybe the cows don't cycle once a year just to Lordy's specifications .. even I had a natural cycle of two years between children... its a disposable world isnt it... you're out you're not performing .... oh you have a heart, that's nice .. does it make much money...

When I said to Lordy please don't make me leave, this is my home his snarly reply was "this is not your home, I own this property.. She-me begged to differ silently "No one owns this land".....

but that's how it is.... and who knows what tomorrow brings..

I sit here and daydream what I would do ... figure out and plant a heap of native trees that my birds and the 'roos and local critters could feed off .. work on staving off drought, look at desalination ideas and solar power, turn the army playground next door into Yurts that don't hurt for abused women and lost souls, remove their fetters and let them be free to grow into their true will, to get them into create states without bonds, introduce them to AL, allow kids to be kids, be as self sufficient as possible, outlets for their talents... in turn they would be the elders, guiding and helping to heal the new ones.... yoga masters, martial arts gurus, technicians, mechanics, security, artisans, cooks, cleaners, gardeners, each to their own, each with a home, counsellors, companions, peace, friendship tribe..

I have a new name I acquired from She-me .. Thelemis Thelema from Thelemis.. bringing the wiccan way of woman to Thelema.. my slope on the dope..... ritualistically speaking...because no dope now just got to give up the smokes... and work out chesty triggers... ooh I bought a teeny bottle of absinthe... after I started reading an essay.. must finish both on the round tut...

ps the bathtub was noticed upended on side so I flipped it back turned it ...popped some reflective foil to plug it up... spun the boat... and watched the resonance effects of helter skelter... it worked.. dampened .. then horses for courses... my new changes to the things that scream ouch in the night were rechanged back .... in the words of baby Mork nano nano bot bot

que sera sera .... Im at peace no matter what explodes around ... loving each day and what it brings.. except being on hold .. I hate phones.. want to be wireless

Happy Venus Virgin Spring...

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06/09/2019 3:07 am  

@mayet

That's a very nice photograph. Is it from a mobile phone camera, and if so from what phone? Having gone recently from having no mobile to buying an iPhone 8+ for its camera capabilities, I'm curious about such matters.


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06/09/2019 3:12 am  

jb: No refunds.

We'll see you in court about that.

m: que sera sera …. Im at peace no matter what explodes around … loving each day ...

I have (had?) it on good authority that your account is/was closed.

But here you be, resurrected again, and talking about ...
yourself.


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06/09/2019 5:17 am  

iphone 10 sucks
still;
for footage !
You can’t toss it in the air have it circle around a building, hover and take different angles of the building and its zooming in functions are crap.
And i can’t even find the taser functionality in it .


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06/09/2019 5:49 am  

Shut up
at least
the parts that talk of self
spot
for now
make room
let something else emerge

master
balance subsistence

oh there’s the self zone again


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06/09/2019 6:59 am  

T: ... subsistence

sub·sist·ence
noun
1. the action or fact of maintaining or supporting oneself at a minimum level.
synonyms: maintenance, keep, upkeep, support, livelihood, living, board, board and lodging, sustenance, nourishment, nutriment, provisions, supplies, food, food and drink, fare, bread;
2. (Law) the state of remaining in force or effect.

"Just getting along."


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06/09/2019 10:06 am  

Concs is concessions. That is, students, the unemployed, the aged, the blind, the poor, the maimed, the lame and the halt.

I posted the news of the exhibition in this thread after searching the entire site for William Blake and finding nothing of any import. However, the exhibition ends next spring.


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06/09/2019 5:40 pm  

@Shiva:

I have (had?) it on good authority that your account is/was closed.

But here you be, resurrected again, and talking about …
yourself.

Mayet's privilege to post here was removed but that was cancelled with a software update for reasons unknown. Re-applied.

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06/09/2019 7:18 pm  

L: ... privilege to post here was removed but that was cancelled with a software update for reasons unknown.

Dom almost started ww4 when a bug/glitch/spell-checker changed a word. Now we see the security eroded by an update, sort of like Choronzon dribbling sand onto the circle, so he could get to Victor. These trivial matters only reinforce my prophetic warning about how the Borg is gonna get you (anyone), sooner or later.

AO: I posted the news of the exhibition in this thread after searching the entire site for William Blake and finding nothing of any import.

If there's no precedent for an off-topic insertion, one is supposed to start a new thread, in a correspondingly correct category.

If's there's even the mention of, say, Blake, in a thread, even of no "import," then a precedent has been established and would probably be open for insertion.

Anyway, Spring is coming up in lands south of the equator. Actually, it arrived around August 7 ... if we count the seasons like the heathen Chinese do. Example: The Spring Equinox (in our lingo) in the middle of Spring in China. Our Summer Solstice is sometimes called "mid-summer," even here in the Western Empire.


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06/09/2019 7:30 pm  

@Shiva

Actually, it arrived around August 7 … if we count the seasons like the heathen Chinese do. Example: The Spring Equinox (in our lingo) in the middle of Spring in China. Our Summer Solstice is sometimes called “mid-summer,” even here in the Western Empire.

That's exactly how I count the seasons. Midsummer Day is the summer solstice, so equal sides on both sides count as the beginning and end of summer, roughly May 5 to August 5. Midwinter Day is the winter solstice, so the same, winter starts about November 4, spring starts about February 4.

This calculation is based purely on dividing the year into equal numbers of days between the solstices and equinoxes; the weather is a lagging indicator, and actual position of the sun is not equal to the days, since the speed of the earth around the sun slows and speeds up along the ellipse.


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06/09/2019 10:06 pm  

b: This calculation is based purely on dividing the year into equal numbers of days between the solstices and equinoxes ...

Exactly. By actually observing the seasons we can see that this is a more accurate approach (for predominant health concerns and the cycles of plants/trees) than the Western tradition of STARTING Spring ON the Spring Equinox.

This approach coincides (within a few days leeway, at most) with the Chinese system, but it's not exactly the same. This is because we Western Folks use a straightforward Solar calendar, while the Chinese use a more complex, mixed, Solar/Lunar calendar.

This type of Chinese Qabalah/Astronomy is only introduced in the West at Easter. Like this ...

"Easter falls on the first Sunday after the Full Moon date, based on mathematical calculations, that falls on or after March 21. If the Full Moon is on a Sunday, Easter is celebrated on the following Sunday.

"Although Easter is liturgically related to the beginning of spring in the Northern Hemisphere (March equinox) and the Full Moon, its date is not based on the actual astronomical date of either event."

- We do need all readers to memorize this complex formula ... so that confusion may be reduced or eliminated.


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07/09/2019 12:54 am  

Shiva - stop trying to be big policeMAN and TRYING to stamp your authority over me. In your rush to be the egotistical MAN you missed, or ignored my valid question, so I will save my words and re-frame my universal request JUST This once.


Spring at the temple - all aside, Kookaburra not laughing

your MAN tripe, that is the Triple Crown without the God particle L is to accept woman as SHE IS not to tread on HER/MY joy nor the sacred ground where Mother rests. reminder Aleister Crowley Society - being no rules broken

@michael that was a generic simple camera phone .. I had wanted to buy a canon well before now but the money I do get extra has gone to my two earth children to make sure they are fed with a roof over their heads. In the words of Ned "Such is life" ..... no regrets

canon produces much more colour, and fluid images especially over nikon. Anything over a 650D (has flip screen) 7d 70D will be what you need to start and as well as the standard 55 250 and 300 kit lenses I WILL suggest the 18-135 wider angle lens which is great for most shots without having to change lenses every five minutes.

oh crap the bloody bathtubs been moved again, too heavy for me to lift..
ooh the new bull is out my window Imma going to go meet him..


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Jamie J Barter
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07/09/2019 1:03 am  

– We do need all readers to memorize this complex formula … so that confusion may be reduced or eliminated.

Just why is this so needily needed from the readers, though? And how would the confusion be reduced or eliminated and about what (in relation to Chinese Qabalah/Astronomy)?

I'm not sure about the relative importance of the mnemonics here --- I mean, if we go to the bother of memorizing this complex formula isn't that just going to squash out some other stuff from our brainboxes instead? There's a limit to how much we can store up there, after all. (Leastways, I seem to recall something similar to that effect being said by Homer Simpson somewhere.)

N-Joy


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07/09/2019 3:08 am  

there is no limits - there is no such thing as nothing, because once nothing is a thought, it becomes something, a nothing. Tagged and named. So one cannot think of nothing only something that is the nothing. For example, my chart.. I was perturbed because no heir. but then woke up to the cusp of revolution, the secret of nun
Nothing can create something, the building blocks must be there to start with, from that point anything can be created. This no limits creates the new knowledge of H-OUR universe - one verse of a poem.

Awareness of that knowledge - is the change of everything. Only armed with Hindsight can Foresight have relevance.

the hindsight is truth and the foresight is the rules or vice versa verse

one must be armed with both from the beginning or there will be an end

the hindsight of SaraH - sera B

thank golly gosh for epilogues eh

off to save the word in a couple of paragraphs err that shoulda been world *facepalm World is with "God" Word is without.. gosh thats a download torrent mirrors Alba Al alma ... creating man .. the key to it all .. handing keys to man ... WILL I or Won't I should I or sholn't I


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07/09/2019 9:19 am  

m: Shiva – stop trying to be big policeMAN and TRYING to stamp your authority over me. In your rush to be the egotistical MAN ...

Actually, the Texas Ranger deputization took place 5 to 7 years ago (I'm just guessing). The webmaster, peace and blessings be upon him, was essentially overwhelmed by Guideline violations. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. There is no Law beyond Do what thou wilt ... except one has to follow the guidelines. So he appealed to, and empowered us, to police the site. We don't have real police powers. We can't arrest or close accounts. We can't remove spam posts or copyrighted images. He, the Ascended Web Master does that dirty work. Here on the outer planes, all we can do is cite the guidelines, give warnings, maybe do the verbal scuffle. Like now.

I don't know who accepted the challenge, but I did. I can name a few who obviously took up the sword, but none of them have paid me any gratuities, so they don't get the publicity (for free). You can figure it out. Anyone who steps in and recites a Guideline for someone who is running amok (what does that word mean?), trying to scam, scare, or belittle us (anyone), or who is beginning to lose their marbles ... well, that's the informal constabulary.

Now, concerning my "rush to be the egotistical MAN ...," this inner and outer conflict you have with men (as set forth in your posted autobiography) seems to be a big problem with you. I assure you, I am operating with a minimum of ego (self-importance), but littered with a great heaping of sarcasm and outright humor. I'm not "trying to stamp [my] authority over you." Kee-rist and the thirty aethyrs. I am, at times, motivated to bring you in from the abyss where you can enjoy casual, but usually-topic related, dialog within the sanity of the Guidelines. As a physician, I am sometimes motivated to point out excited people's problems, usually using Latin and Greek medical terminology. Many other posters simply use the well-known terms, nuts, crazy, wacko, and other undignified descriptives.

Now, you've gotten through the wire fence and you've climbed the border wall, or otherwise hacked your way back inside the Octagon, where you are holding forth in a steady and determined manner. But you're not playing by the rules, the Guidelines. You are attempting to use dirty tricks on honest people. But this is LAShTAL, and most of our honest posters are perceptive enough to recognize the black magic of thread-detours, proclamation of self and its virtues, fits of agony an sorrow ... followed by feelin' good no matter what crap falls from the sky. Repeats in cycles. Classic symptoms.

I was criticized by one of those Christian folks on the Amado thread for making a diagnosis over the internet. Well, he had suggested that we were coaxing and cajoling a lady along ... in order to get ahold of a photo of Amado's mother. He was citing a plot that did not exist. So I declared him paranoid. My diagnostic opinion over the wild world web caries no official force. He will not be confined for examination. I'm not even a real establishment doctor any more because I stopped paying my dues ... er ... license fees. I haven't treated a patient with acupuncture in 14 years. (But I do energetic healing once a week in class).

Anyway, and notwithstanding anything nor promoting nothing, with no specific person in mind, let me cite one syndrome...

It used to be called Manic-Depression or Manic-Depressive, a jolly good description, which was its name when I first learned about it. Some dingbats changed it to Bi-Polar Syndrome, which is more technical but less descriptive.

The signs are: Repeating cycles of Mania (excited, overwrought, hallucinatory, sometimes dangerous), followed by periods of depression (sorrow, crying, despair). What else do you (anyone want, or need, to know?

jb: Just why is this so needily needed from the readers, though?

Because (beware the pit) this requirement is pure (dim) wit, sprinkled with sarcasm. I often make authoritarian statements, but my twisted mind actually means the reverse, and anyone sensitive to my condition will snicker, while others take it seriously ... or challenge my authority because they don't like people telling them what to do. Which is fine, but they miss the point. In this case, the simple point has gone off with The Lost Word, but an abstract would read: Don't bother memorizing this crap, it's just a made-up jigsaw puzzle in time to remind you when to lay those Easter eggs.

jb: ... isn’t that just going to squash out some other stuff from our brainboxes instead?

As Albert said, "It's all relative." People interested in the works of Aleister Crowley must surely have come across the concept that everything has to be removed, leaving nothing behind. Not one at a time, making room for new material, but simultaneously. Not on a permanent basis, mind you, until you're ready. Just temporarily, from time to time, preferably daily.
No-mind.
Stop.

(Tiger protocol)

m: there is no such thing as nothing, because once nothing is a thought, it becomes something

This is not quite in line with my understanding. There is nothing (Ain). If it "becomes" something (Becoming = Ain Soph), it (the Nothing Source) still remains nothing. Since we are something, we can never realize nothing as long as we dwell on ourselves. It is ourselves that replicate the thought that makes something out of nothing.

m: So one cannot think of nothing only something that is the nothing.

I agree. That is why it is said that the mind cannot be used to stop itself. There is no practice anywhere that repeats the success of his or her teacher. Yes, some folks seem to be able to do it at will (stop the mind), but they can never teach anyone else to do it. Everyone is on their own for this one. Even the angels flee when it comes time to step on the brakes even wile letting go.


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