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There are so profound ideas in AC writings that one could actually spend more than a lifetime studying and trying to apply them in everyday life. Also it seems to me that Magick, being a playful mode of living itself, seems to walk hand in hand with synchronicity, either watching closely it or creating it by the use of Will.

So I thought to start this thread, where we would post one or two quotes (chosen randomly) from AC’s writings every day and then allow ourselves to watch for any relevant synchronicities during our daily life.

What do you think? Let’s play together! 😀


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Let's start with this quote:

“Sir Knights, Brethren and Comrades, recall the Vows of your Obedience. How is it then that you are ever dallying with dame or jousting with squire? By the Eight Pillars that support this holy house it is not well, Sir Knights! Now ye know soothfast that our Law is Joy, that by Virtue we deny not manhood, but in this ye err that in your sport ye look not beyond to the Mighty Work of the Vow. Is not this the essence of the Proof? The Substance of the Ordeal? Whether therefore ye foin or joust (as Saint Paul the good Knight sayeth in his Epistle) do all to the glory of God. Even at the moment when the Device of the Demon grippeth at his strongest, play the man, aspire fervently toward the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, considering his crucifixion between two thieves (is not the lance that pierced Him in my charge?) and giving up the ghost to the Father either by action or by passion.”

(Agape vel Liver C vel Azoth)


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"1. Apply the Law of Thelema to all problems of fitness, use,
and development.
It is a violation of the Law of Thelema to abuse the
natural qualities of any animal or object by diverting
it from its proper function, as determined by
consideration of its history and structure. Thus, to
train children to perform mental operations, or to
practice tasks, for which they are unfitted, is a
crime against nature. Similarly, to build houses of
rotten material, to adulterate food, to destroy
forests, etc., etc., is to offend."

["Duty"]


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"Do what thou wilt."

I win. Good game 🙂


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(just teasing...)


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Nomad 😀

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01.25.2010

"6. Also it is better if in these adorations thou assume the God-form of Whom thou adorest, as if thou didst unite with Him in the adoration of That which is beyond Him."

[Liber Resh vel Helios]


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"Nomad" wrote:
"Do what thou wilt."

I win. Good game 🙂

Good show. 😆


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I do not wish to play this game, though would like to express my thoughts about synchronities, might be true that when one lead an occult/magical life it may come that synchronities may come at hand, though, I would like to recommend to see these experiences from the septical side, wish to add that Crowley at least for one time in his life looked at occult phenomena from the sceptical side, and I think it a recommendation to take that example.


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Burst pipe this morning - kitchen destroyed. Plumber arrives 9.05am. Post arrives at 9.15am. Quote from Plumber. Cheque from the Revenue and a new kitchen?!

Every act is a magickal act.


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Alysa, I agree. But then again... life is a game. Let's smile at it! 😀

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01.26.2010

"I find some folks think me (for one)
So great a fool that I disclaim
Indeed Jehovah's hate for shame
That man to-day should not be weaned
Of worshipping so foul a fiend
In presence of the living Sun,
And yet replace him oiled and clean
By the Egyptian Pantheon,
The same thing by another name.
Thus when of late Egyptian Gods
Evoked ecstatic periods
In verse of mine, you thought I praised
Or worshipped them -- I stand amazed.
I merely wished to chant in verse
Some aspects of the Universe,
Summed up these subtle forces finely,
And sang of them (I think divinely)
In name and form; a fault perhaps --
Reviewers are such funny chaps!
I think that ordinary folk,
Though, understood the things I spoke.
For Gods, and devils too, I find
Are merely modes of my own mind!"

[from "Pentecost" in The Sword of Song]


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"alysa" wrote:
I do not wish to play this game, though would like to express my thoughts about synchronities, might be true that when one lead an occult/magical life it may come that synchronities may come at hand, though, I would like to recommend to see these experiences from the septical side, wish to add that Crowley at least for one time in his life looked at occult phenomena from the sceptical side, and I think it a recommendation to take that example.

Yes, be skeptical about just about everything -- especially all matters occult, religious, synchronistic, paranormal, etc. I enjoy the playful side of this sort of thing, but I'm also careful to remember that sometimes it doesn't necessarily go beyond playful. And sometimes they're meaningless, and the human mind is just doing its usual thing of trying to inflict a pattern where one might not exist. For example, I've never been a big believer in the 23 phenomena that so many people seem fascinated by. My response has always been that if you went through your life looking for 38s, you'd probably be talking about the 38 phenomena. It's just a matter of having noticed a few seemingly significant 23s, and then consciously looking for them. I'm not sure if its a true synchronistic event if one made it happen by looking for the coincidence.


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"quatermass" wrote:
And sometimes they're meaningless, and the human mind is just doing its usual thing of trying to inflict a pattern where one might not exist. For example, I've never been a big believer in the 23 phenomena that so many people seem fascinated by. My response has always been that if you went through your life looking for 38s, you'd probably be talking about the 38 phenomena. It's just a matter of having noticed a few seemingly significant 23s, and then consciously looking for them. I'm not sure if its a true synchronistic event if one made it happen by looking for the coincidence.

Very good observation. That's exactly the way that most of these "synchronicities" work.

A coincidence is really nothing more than a connection that your mind draws between two things; paying attention to them can be advantageous insofar as it can give you an insight into the way that your mind forms patterns. Once you know this, you can use this information to avoid being misled by your mind.


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"Los" wrote:
"quatermass" wrote:
And sometimes they're meaningless, and the human mind is just doing its usual thing of trying to inflict a pattern where one might not exist. For example, I've never been a big believer in the 23 phenomena that so many people seem fascinated by. My response has always been that if you went through your life looking for 38s, you'd probably be talking about the 38 phenomena. It's just a matter of having noticed a few seemingly significant 23s, and then consciously looking for them. I'm not sure if its a true synchronistic event if one made it happen by looking for the coincidence.

Very good observation. That's exactly the way that most of these "synchronicities" work.

A coincidence is really nothing more than a connection that your mind draws between two things; paying attention to them can be advantageous insofar as it can give you an insight into the way that your mind forms patterns. Once you know this, you can use this information to avoid being misled by your mind.

If they're meaningless, then they're not synchronicities. The same synch can be observed and noted by different people which suggests that it's not all in the mind.

The concept of synchronicity was developed by Carl Jung with help from physicist and nobel laureate Wolfgang Pauli. Jung called it an: "acausal connecting principle." They can be very useful indicators in magical work.


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"zardoz" wrote:
If they're meaningless, then they're not synchronicities.

I agree. If they're meaningless, they're not synchronicities. However, all I meant to say was that every coincidence is not a synchronicity. Most really are meaningless coincidences, and a lot of people want to ascribe meaning where there isn't any. It's the same impulse in the human mind that allows us to see faces in trees or low-resolution photographs of Mars. We naturally seek patterns and meaning.

And, as I said, some people consciously look for synchronicity in there lives. I think there's a difference between trying to be aware and actively looking for important meaning where there may be none. A true synchronistic event is something that calls your attention to it, not the other way around. It's something that pulls you out of your everyday existence for a moment and really grabs your attention -- not unlike deja vu. Nobody experiences a true moment of deja vu by trying to; it just happens.

That's all I meant. Most coincidences don't mean a thing. And a lot of synchronicities seem to be the result of people looking for meaning where there might not be any -- such as the 23 phenomenon I mentioned. Is this a true if thousands of people are in on it, actively looking for it? It seems to me an example of confirmation bias and seeing patterns where none exist. Even Robert Anton Wilson acknowledged this, saying that the human mind has the power to find truth in anything. And he was one of the main popularizers of the 23 phenomenon. Of course, he also had a wonderful sense of humor and a terrifically skeptical mind. Two reasons why he'll be sorely missed.


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"people looking for meaning where there might not be any" - Yeah, but that's it, hey, many people are just so eagerly looking for meaning


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01.28.2010

"In the course of this Training, he will learn to explore the Hidden Mysteries of Nature, and to develop new senses and faculties in himself, whereby he may communicate with, and control, Beings and Forces pertaining to orders of existence which {XXIV} have been hitherto inaccessible to profane research, and available only to that unscientific and empirical

MAGICK

(of tradition) which I came to destroy in order that I might fulfill.
I send this book into the world that every man and woman may take hold of life in the proper manner. It does not matter of one's present house of flesh be the hut of a shepherd; by virtue of my

MAGICK

he shall be such a shepherd as David was. If it be the studio of a sculptor, he shall so chisel from himself the marble that masks his idea that he shall be no less a master than Rodin."

[Magick in Theory and Practice]


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Well what can I say...I had no intention of posting again today but then this just happened!

I have been on the site a lot recently and in fact was on for several hours researching and learning to use the search function properly " Paul 🙂 " and then I dashed out to get my kids from school leaving Lashtal up & running. As soon as I turned on my satelite radio to get my Howard Stern fix of the day there was that unmistakeable opening keyboard riff and immediately at full volume came the immortal opening lines from Howards next guest of the day...Ozzy...

"Mr. Crowley what went down in your head..." duh na na etc. (hadn't heard that song in ten yrs + easily)

very, very cool and very, very true and the best example available for the theme of this thread Hecate


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“Coke himself had married an American woman of the meanest character. She would ring the bell to have the pleasure of hearing the servants call her "my lady," Coke saw witchcraft in every trifle. When the countess happened to sneeze he would deduce that his mother was on the job. He had told his troubles to many people, and trusted them at first quite blindly, and then without a word of warning concluded from some harmless word or act that they had joined the conspiracy against him.
Of course, it was a perfectly plain case of persecution mania, accentuated {547} by his old habit of brandy tippling and his newly acquired one of sniffing a solution of cocaine. Apart from his obsession there was nothing wrong with the man. He enjoyed magnificent health; he was one of the best preserved men of fifty to fifty-five that I have ever seen. He was deeply religious, with more than a touch of mysticism, and a really deep insight into the Cabbala, which he understood although he knew little or nothing about it. I thought I could cure him and undertook the task.
My plan in such cases is not to undeceive the patient. I proposed to treat his story as literally true in every way and to fight fire with fire. I said to him: "What you must do is to develop your own magical powers so as to beat your mother at her own game."
He had considerable capacity for Magick and understood the object of the measures which I
proposed. We began by chartering a yacht, which we anchored in an unfrequented river on the south coast. I obligated him and proceeded to teach him how to develop his astral body. He rapidly acquired the technique and gained much confidence when he found that by my methods he could check the results of his clairvoyance.”

[The Confessions of Aleister Crowley]

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Miles_vera 😀

Well, playing alone is rather boring. So I guess this is the last post on this topic, unless someone else will add a quotation tomorrow…

Regards
Hecate


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"quatermass" wrote:
"zardoz" wrote:
That's all I meant. Most coincidences don't mean a thing. And a lot of synchronicities seem to be the result of people looking for meaning where there might not be any -- such as the 23 phenomenon I mentioned. Is this a true if thousands of people are in on it, actively looking for it? It seems to me an example of confirmation bias and seeing patterns where none exist. Even Robert Anton Wilson acknowledged this, saying that the human mind has the power to find truth in anything. And he was one of the main popularizers of the 23 phenomenon. Of course, he also had a wonderful sense of humor and a terrifically skeptical mind. Two reasons why he'll be sorely missed.

You don't have to look for the 23 phenomena, just pay attention and observe when it happens. Most people that it's happened to, like myself and Wilson, and W.S. Burroughs, have had it dramatically verified several times. Some people probably do actively look for it and find it through confirmation bias. Balanced skepticism seems neceessary.

Wilson never connected the statement, 'the human mind has the power to find truth in anything,' with the 23 phenomena. He gave various possible explanations for it, but none of them were that he made it up in his own mind.

I took the MLA Crowley online class with him. He definitely considered 23 to be very significant in the Thelemic lexicon, in large part due to ch.23 from the Book of Lies. There was an excellent study of that chapter which I wished I had saved.


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just pay attention and observe


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