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RuneLogIX
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01/03/2020 5:35 pm  

Described as an essay, this book at 63 pages is a quick and enjoyable exploration of the spiritual path traversing the Tree of Life. Overall I like the written content and it serves well for busy people or people disinclined to the heady writings of AC and or James Eshelman more thorough but pedantic and doctrinaire takes on the topic (I am thinking of Mystical & Magical System of the AA). It is my opinion that as a guide book rather then a qaballah teaching work it is more useful to the aspirant then Dion Fortune's Mystical Qaballah or Hermetic Qabalah Foundation of Oliver St. John. My only question mark is regarding the description of Netzach (the sephera of Venus) as "social behavior" as a somewhat clinical and abstract term that seems out of place and remote from the operator's consciousness (and just because I know this is coming by virtue of being a guest on this forum I neither want or need you to correct my opinions on this matter, Shiva). You could replace that term with "sociology" and get pretty much the same confusing description. Perhaps Conditioning is a single word to convey his intent but I am unsure if I would use the same term since it is ruled by Venus and the opposite of Mars, it contains heavy overlap that blurs the distinctions between Netzach and Yesod described by the author has Feeling or Emotion. But I suppose it is a minor quibble.

More notable are presentation issues with the work. Littered throughout the work is cartoon clip art used as text lengthen-er and other garish images that detract from the serious tone of the work. Even comic sans font is used at one point (hint to self-published authors, *never* use comic sans). Readers of spiritual works do so for pleasure, leisure,and enlightenment. We want timeless, classical, or at least consistent content and the included kitsch is a jarring and discordant experience. Many people I know have received at one point or another from older persons on social media low brow images, commentary, and opinions (on various topics) that makes the sender seem out of date and out of touch with the needs of the receiver and this produces the same experience. The book is not destroyed by this, merely marred, and it is hoped the author does better in the future.

There is also somewhat frequent mention of other traditions which is usually done well and good (Vajrayana for instance) but examples are not cited consistently and are sometimes used as pedestals (or perhaps cameos) that is not well done. Now I know every spiritualist since Madame Blavatsky has done this and AC is no exception but it is done in an authoritative and un-rushed manner. I doubt anyone else noticed this but as an aspiring Latinist I burst out laughing with the irony of using an image of the Second Temple of Jerusalem with the Latin words Sanctum Sanctorum since the Romans would destroy and sanctify the temple of Jehovah to Jupiter in 70 e.v. while placing each person within reach into the afterlife.  There are a few pages where Frater Shiva makes contributions to the terminology and pitfalls of the path which are nice but certain sections are cut short (with single half page chapters) and are described rather flippantly as procedural degrees with little independent value for the seeker (not that any of you will get that far anyway lol). In comparison to other authors that frequently cite Heliopolis or ON (Cornelius) there is virtually no references made to interesting historical and Thelemic specific mysteries. However as a short intro or guide to the path of spiritual awakening it is a handy reference that might be better suited to a pocket sized edition for gifts and travel.

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01/03/2020 8:16 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

My only question mark is regarding the description of Netzach (the sephera of Venus) as "social behavior" as a somewhat clinical and abstract term that seems out of place and remote from the operator's consciousness

The true nature within one's self that is faced at Netzach is the fourth neurocircuit. This is subconscious cultural programming (from parents, grandparents, teachers, priests, and peers. I say "true nature" because this is exactly what the aspirant faces at 4=7. It is easily observable as such, regardless of what any books say.

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You could replace that term with "sociology" and get pretty much the same confusing description.

Yes. It is confusing because it is subconscious. This stuff must be cleared out before Dominus or the alignment to Tiphareth will never get aligned. More aspirants fail at Netzach than any other sphere. The trials and tribulations of the "House of Love" have not even begun to be revealed in texts ... except for Jung, who presents concepts and keys that are more useful than other  authors.

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Perhaps Conditioning is a single word to convey his intent

That word would do. I believe conditioning and programming mean the same thing. We'll have to invoke Jamie Joy, the hair-splitter, in order to know the truth.

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Littered throughout the work is cartoon clip art used as text lengthen-er and other garish images that detract from the serious tone of the work.

Sorry, that's my style. Probably because the Great Work is a game. It's all part of the universal joke.

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(hint to self-published authors, *never* use comic sans).

Right you are. I'll go out of my way to use it more often in the future.

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the included kitsch is a jarring and discordant experience.

This tells us a lot about your own psyche. Since you are the first to bring up these points, we'll have to wait for corroboration or denial from other viewpoints, mainly because your presented persona here on LAShTAL is not exactly balanced.

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it is hoped the author does better in the future.

You should see The Master Codex. It was written "in the future" in relation to City of The Sun. It is very expensive because it has at least one color pic on every page. I didn't "do better," I did worse. I guess I failed the test. Whatever you do, be sure to get distracted by the images that either illustrate a point, or make fun of it, and don't make you happy, while losing a grip on whatever the point is.

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might be better suited to a pocket sized edition for gifts and travel.

Blazing Diamond came first. It is a textbook of the Outer Order. It is similar to Book 4, but contains much more how-to-do-it, practical procedures. Sun City is listed as "a Travelogue of the Inner Order." It deals with concepts more than practicality, because there aren't many (any?) external guidelines. Treatise on Naught essays the Supernal Order.

After having written Sun City, and having said everything, I was disturbed by it's short length. So I added some Appendices. Even then, it was my shortest book. Weiser Antiquarian distributed it, and being such a short book, I figured the price would be cheaper. But, no, Weiser set the price at $45, which is the same they set for books twice the length. I was em-bare-ass-ed. That;s why it is so deeply discounted now on Lulu (I set the price) ... after Weiser did the original distribution.

A pocket-sized format is a good idea for such shorter texts.

 

 


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01/03/2020 10:50 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

Described as an essay [etc...]

I say, wouldn't this go better under "Member-submitted reviews" than "Submissions" per say?

Hair-splittingly yours,

NormaN Joy Con quest

P.S. And yes, conditioning and programming do appear to mean pretty much the same thing: any such difference must be exceeding subtle.


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02/03/2020 12:37 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

And yes, conditioning and programming do appear to mean pretty much the same thing: any such difference must be exceeding subtle.

How dare you agree with me?

 


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02/03/2020 1:49 am  
Posted by: @shiva

Since you are the first to bring up these points, we'll have to wait for corroboration or denial from other viewpoints, mainly because your presented persona here on LAShTAL is not exactly balanced.

Ah yes, blame me for being more observant and more entertaining. SO MOTE IT BOOMER.

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02/03/2020 1:53 am  

It may be shocking to you to learn, O Mighty Gorean Full-Time Investor, that there are some people even older than Boomers.

 


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02/03/2020 2:10 am  
Posted by: @runelogix

SO MOTE IT BOOMER.

Not to overstep my bounds, but I believe our old uncle Shiva is a member of the To Keep Silent generation.


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02/03/2020 6:28 am  
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Shiva is a member of the To Keep Silent generation.

This is correct. I grew up in an active, serious, silent & secret Order. We were serious about silence. We never let out a peep in public. We did not advertise. After I left that circus, I engaged in much more public ways with the Path, but I never brought up Crowley, or A.'.A.'., or OTO. There was no LAShTAL yet in those days. But there was an 8-story building in Hollywood whose west wall had no windows (flat concrete) - a mural was painted there: a levitated man, walking on air, with a balloon coming from his mouth saying "LAShTAL." I have looked everywhere (online) for a historic photo of that edifice. No luck. I guess it was a hallucination.

(It wasn't)

I probably bring up "the fourth power of the sphynx" as a phrase or a warning or a solution for all woes, around here more than anybody.

It's hard to see how anyone can run on, sometimes, like I do ... and yet be part of The Silent Watcher's Guild.

I will now pick a picture from my current book, now under final construction, and post it to irritate and distract all readers.

 

 

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02/03/2020 2:51 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

But there was an 8-story building in Hollywood whose west wall had no windows (flat concrete) - a mural was painted there: a levitated man, walking on air, with a balloon coming from his mouth saying "LAShTAL."

huh?

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02/03/2020 3:37 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

the included kitsch is a jarring and discordant experience

I'd have to see it for myself to judge, but I remember RAW and similar authors had a lot of "clip art" in their books that could be described as "kitsch", maybe he's just following in that tradition. I guess its a matter of taste, I like the comical approach as can be seen with some of my image posts here.

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It's all part of the universal joke.

Yep, there you go.

 

Posted by: @jamiejbarter

conditioning and programming do appear to mean pretty much the same thing

Yes, to me "conditioning" seems more "analogue" and "programming" more "digital".


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02/03/2020 4:17 pm  
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Yes, to me "conditioning" seems more "analogue" and "programming" more "digital".

but it is conditioning, programming suggests structured data types that is rationally motivated when Netzach a subconscious mind is irrational, yes it is the goal of the adept to understand and control it, thereby programming it, but per se this is never fully completed just as no sephera is completely knowable. It may be programming for manifested beings but as a raw area/level/circuit of mind when we first come into contact or awareness of it is completely out of control and the spiritual path is supposed to bring it under control (depending who you ask!). Your suggestion does bring me to the idea that this is the domain of Yama practices and if that is the case I think that is a very valuable insight. I think I may come to understand Netzach as "wanting" which is opposite Hod's "analyzing." As an analogy for right/left brain modes of thinking it is really very sublime but it requires precision for the cogito ratio to work as a model of mind. Maybe I am re-inventing Dion Fortune or Regardie here but I may just rationalize Yesod as "the oscillations" between Hod and Netzach and be done with it. End rant.

WRT "jokes" let's save that for the right place and right time. No one makes an effort to joke in such manner in college papers so why should we in the supposed college of adepts do so in our "teaching" material? If I wanted to pay for comedy I would go to the club for that, when I buy supposedly serious spiritual practice guides I am not in the mood for daffy duck impersonations and as I am the customer I am always right. 😎 

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02/03/2020 4:28 pm  

Some have conditioning and programming to read things as a handy reference and a manual; results not in a metathesis but math as number; and hence is thrown off by the energies that pop.


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02/03/2020 4:44 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

WRT "jokes" let's save that for the right place and right time.[...] why should we in the supposed college of adepts do so in our "teaching" material? 

You must hate the writings of AC then, since they are chock full of jokes.


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02/03/2020 5:31 pm  

@ignant666 you know what I like about this forum? So many opportunities for kindness to complete strangers. I "dig" it!

 

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02/03/2020 5:45 pm  

"We're not happy til you're not happy", as an old t-shirt of mine says.


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02/03/2020 6:30 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

huh?

Your "huh?" is noted in relation to a complete sentence. What "?" do you have? What is it you fail to understand.

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I'd have to see it for myself to judge

I am ATTACHING herewith a Chapter from The Master Codex (because the pictures are in color) as a sample of my books that have pictures in them. Thus, you can see for yourself and become a judge. I have selected Ch 2 ("Mytho") because it deals with Horus vs Set, which is sorta popular on these threads, these days.

I

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maybe he's just following in that tradition.

I am not following any known tradition. Similarities with others may be seen by people who make no difference.

I guess it's time to bring out the big guns. I herewith ATTACH a copy of the Intro to The Master Codex. It explains in detail the source and nature of my style of publication. This may be judged, appreciated, denounced, or laughed at, but you will be looking at a Truth that is more important than AL, and more powerful than the Horus toy. Perhaps it is unwise of me to disclose this secret so openly, here, where just about anyone incarnate on Terra can read it, for it may cause The End of the World.

No. I'll chance it. Here it is ...

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Yes, to me "conditioning" seems more "analogue" and "programming" more "digital".

Jamie Barter, your tenure as "Recognized Hair Splitter" has now been exempted and you are free to pass on to higher dimensions of discrimination. Duck, you really know how to make a difference.

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programming suggests structured data types that is rationally motivated

In your book. In the psycho-medical book, programming is used in relation to any neurocircuit. It specifically includes "cultural, social, sexual, and familial programming" (at Netzach). One can split hairs, but that's the word that has been used for decades in the arena we are investigating. More specifically, the word imprinting is also used - for any circuit or sphere.

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No one makes an effort to joke in such manner in college papers so why should we in the supposed college of adepts do so in our "teaching" material?

Because we are not limited by "College Protocols." I have earned three doctorates and two Master's degrees. My PhD is in Education. Please don't tell me about College, or what style anyone should use. In the real world, it will sink or swim of its own accord.

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when I buy supposedly serious spiritual practice guides I am not in the mood for daffy duck impersonations and as I am the

Then stay away from the Ashram and Booknook of Frater Shiva.

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the customer I am always right. 😎 

Another lie from the Aeon of Osiris, who was murdered by Set.

Posted by: @ignant666

You must hate the writings of AC then, since they are chock full of jokes.

When making bricks, the acolytes put the straw in their hair, thinking they are Jesus Christ.

(paraphrase. No quote marks).


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05/03/2020 1:40 am  
Posted by: @runelogix

No one makes an effort to joke in such manner in college papers so why should we in the supposed college of adepts do so in our "teaching" material?

I guess its just a different approach and there's a place for both. I think the comical "clip art" is there to keep people with poor concentration (like me) engaged, I can see how it may have the opposite effect on others. This might be where the "preview" option (sample pages) is useful, though I see that lulu.com still uses flash for this which means a lot of people will miss this feature (they should probably update it).

This all reminded me of this bit from an old Simpsons episode 🙂 :

 

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I am not following any known tradition. Similarities with others may be seen by people who make no difference.

"Following in that tradition" was only meant in the vague sense. I guess "not following any known tradition" could be said about RAW, so you're following in the noble tradition of not following any tradition.

 

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I am ATTACHING herewith a Chapter from The Master Codex

Thanks for providing these, I also had a look at the previews of your books on lulu, I can now give my "judgement" on the visual side of it.

My initial thoughts are that it reminds me a bit of the "...For Dummies" books, which I am a fan of (they are aimed at me, the clue's in the title), and like I thought it would, it reminds me of some of RAW's books and those of other authors in his "stable". I am someone who always hated having to read "proper" books as a kid but had no problem reading comics, so I can appreciate this approach, which is a bit like wrapping a "proper" book with a comic. The strongest point for me is the formatting of the text, which again reminds me of "RAW and those guys", the range of fonts and aligning the text with the images makes it more "interesting" and "comic book-y". Personally I have no problem with whatever fonts are used as long as they are readable and the "quirky" ones (including Comic Sans) are only used for some passages to "liven them up", which appears to be the case. I like the choice of font for the main body of text (I would like to know what its called), and again it reminds me of the "New Falcon" (I think) books. 

On the "clip-art" style: I can appreciate someone who "isn't very good at art" but "has a go anyway", which may be the case here (and this is how I see myself when it comes to my "art" posted on this forum). It appears that various bits of clip-art have been arranged into new scenes using a very limited set of techniques, this can have an amusing effect and when done right, the "lack of talent" can become a talent itself.

Personally, I have no problem with whatever clip-art is used but my only "gripe" is with some of the image quality. Most of the clip-art appears to be from a high quality source, but now and again there are some low-res images that have been scaled up leaving jagged edges (aliasing) which stand out and spoil the "finish" of the item a little. There isn't really any "excuse" for using low-res source images today, but if you absolutely have to, there are methods to improve their appearance such as "anti-aliasing" (or if this is beyond your ability, you could always ask some "crazy kid" on the internet to see what he can do 😉 ). Remember, trees died for this.

After browsing this material, I think it might be aimed at someone like me, and thanks to @runelogix's review I will at some point purchase a copy of "City of the Sun", that is unless there is a more suitable first book by Lord Shiva Almighty (😛).

(I still have "The Dark Lord" by Peter Levenda and "Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep" by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche to get through, so it will be in a couple of months or so)

Best Regards,

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05/03/2020 6:18 am  
Posted by: @duck

My initial thoughts are that it reminds me a bit of the "...For Dummies" books

You are off to a good start. I never read a "Dummie" book, but the aim is the same: To explain certain things as though they were being presented to a child for the first time ... then they keep expanding until we hit outer space or some black hole named Binah. You received an early Chapter. Here, try out an "advanced" Chapter ...

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a bit like wrapping a "proper" book with a comic.

These are now called "Graphic Novels," and my books are novel, but not novels (except one). Frater Estar recently completed his PhD in Psychology. He is a graphic designer. He talked his committee into accepting a Graphic Novel as his PhD dissertation. They accepted it.

He emailed me a copy of it. It was a comic book in comic style, just like those I paid 10 pennies for as a kid. It covered mythical gods, interpersonal relations, some metaphysical-psych "Self" references. If was okay, but if I was on his Committee, I'd have said, "Go take a course in how to write a proper book."

My books are books, usually trade soft & hard covers (both formats available - one's cheaper than the other). They have pictures in them. Some are scientific, some are symbolic, while others are clipart cartoon figures who are usually showing confusion, stupidity, or some nefarious motivation like control, aggression, mockery. In my book now winding up in production, there is a clipart dead man who died from too rapid a Cosmic Changeover. I think I will stay away from Choronzon-viruses. The text predominates over the images.

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font for the main body of text (I would like to know what its called)

Georgia. My current work is back to Times New roman. I chose Georgia because it seemed a tiny bit bolder and more expanded. I recently compared the two and found them so close that I reverted, because Georgia always needs specific line spacing or the lines appear crammed together. The paragraphs are set at "exactly" 14 point, while laying in an 11-point Georgia text.

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Most of the clip-art appears to be from a high quality source, but now and again there are some low-res images that have been scaled up leaving jagged edges (aliasing) which stand out and spoil the "finish" of the item a little.

I agree. I run every pic through sizing, dots-per-inch, sharpening, color correction. I have climbed a very steep learing curve in how some programs handle color and DPI. I have only recently (in the past year) learned how to defeat the programs that screw up my color and sharpness. Anytime I throw in a fuzzy or jagged pic, it's usually because it's the best available under that specific pic requirement.

Now, having mastered how to get proper color and sharpness (300 dpi min), we get to my soon coming book where it says up front ...

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There isn't really any "excuse" for using low-res source images today, but if you absolutely have to, there are methods to improve their appearance such as "anti-aliasing"

See my excuse(s) above. I will study anti-aliasing. It sounds like what I need for historical photos. And with the AA initials obviously being a gift from the A.'.A.'. to promote clarity among pictures and men.

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unless there is a more suitable first book by Lord Shiva Almighty

Lord Shiva Almighty, LSA = 91, a most auspicious number in Liber 333. The final chapter as a matter of fact.

However, I have not received the title Lord, yet, except from mockers or fun-pokers, and I have never used it. There is still something up/out/in there that I have not gotten around to, and I don't think anybody ever has ... except U.G., and if he did it, then there must be others, so at best I'm just a second rate Shiva, who would be Shiva the Ascetic, and that one I can claim, but lordy be, not Lord. I can also identify with Shiva the Householder, because I Am one, and the domestic arrangement is In Alignment with the Scriptures. Almighty does not fit. There are lots of things I can't do, or would do poorly if I were interested.

So we're really just left with an S (60), or stretch it to Sh (300). Which do you think numbers up best?

There is only one Introductory book in my collection. Inside Solar Lodge. It all started there, and everything today came out of that cauldron.

 

Now this is a pretty long post, and it has not much in the way of A.C. in it. But he and the A.'.A.'. both appear in all my books,* so I guess it's okay.

*But not the medical and martial arts books. They lean more towards Hua To (famous Chinese doctor who gave patients a bowl of cannabis indica soup ... and then operated on them with kives) and Lao Tzu (famous philosopher who could not be clawed by a tiger as there was nothing to claw).

Cheers ...


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05/03/2020 5:03 pm  

Thanks for the reply (I am always impressed by the amount of detail you put into your replies and the number of them you do considering all the other things you must be doing), I'll give the "advanced" chapter a read when I've caught up with everything.

 

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I will study anti-aliasing. It sounds like what I need for historical photos.

Its just an example of a fairly basic method, there are probably better ones for historical photos (I'm not an expert either). I don't know what software you use, I'm used to using GIMP (its free)

 

https://www.gimp.org/

with this filter pack (also free)

https://gmic.eu/download.shtml

 

It has a lot of nice options and you can play around with "Anti-Aliasing" and similar things in the "Repair" category.

For images which are more "line-art", "Median Blur" and similar filters are a quick way to improve them a bit.

Here's an example with a pic from your .pdf using "Mean Curvature" smoothing:

 

Before:

before

After:

after

 

Its still not "perfect" but I think its an improvement. With more time spent on it it could be improved further. You're more than welcome to keep that pic and use it if you want.

 

I don't know how familiar you are with it but with "Vector" art all these problems can be avoided, no pixels involved ("the non-atomic fact of my etc etc") so you can enlarge them as much as you want.


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