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01/04/2020 2:32 pm  

Disclaimer: This will seem a bit silly to some of you. As an antidote to this silliness, consider how creepy it could be.

This will seem a bit creepy to some of you. As an antidote to this creepiness, consider how silly it could be.

 

lam00

 

"It shall be his child & that strangely"

 

Here I present a "solution" to the mysteries of page 60: the Line and Circle, the "chance shape of the letters", and the "Child", all "solved" in one go. No numerological nonsense, just "Art" alone (only one number involved, "4").

 

 

In a previous post, I wrote how "Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!" can be interpreted in a visual way and this "pasting" is very easily done with modern image software. A page can be flipped horizontally and combined with the original, then flipped vertically and combined again. After a while I wondered what would happen if you repeat the process. One "quadrant" of the flipped page now contains all the information of the original but "squashed" into a quarter of its size. I thought the obvious choice for this experiment would be the infamous "Grid page", the 60th page of the manuscript.

 

If you squint a bit you can see a face that looks a bit like the stereotypical "Grey Alien". It can also look like the figure is wearing a pointy hat with a pair of horns.

lam01

 

The effect due to the lines of the grid makes him look a bit like Hellraiser's Pinhead (told you this might get a bit creepy):

Hellraiserpinhead

 

I have "colourized" it to show how I see it:

lam02a

For me, the pointy hat reminded me a bit of those worn by Tibetan Lamas:

dalai

I have not seem one of these hats with horns though.

dalai2

This Tibetan connection is appropriate as "Lam" has been translated as "the Way" from Tibetan. I gave Lam's robes the colours of those of Lamas (I literally picked the colours from photos the Dalai Lama and others with the color-picker tool).

 

With a bit of "artistic licence" I etched Lam out as I see him (only erasing in white and not adding in black):

lam03

 

He looks a bit different now than he did in Crowley's drawing.

lamdrawing

Maybe the original was of a juvenile of Lam's race and this one is an adult. I decided to work with the peculiarities of the image and interpreted some of it as a sort of "woolly" collar that wasn't in the original. In A.C's original, Lam's eyes are very narrow, here I worked with the image and left them more like the black "bug eyes" you hear about aliens having, though narrowed them a bit as a compromise.

alien 0132

 

"Change not as much as the style of a letter; for
behold! thou, o prophet, shalt not behold all these mysteries
hidden therein.
The child of thy bowels, he shall behold them."

We've all heard the creepy stories of how these aliens are obsessed with examining people's "bowels" (some new-agey UFO types say this has to do with the "Root Chakra", and that these entities are vampirically "harvesting" energy from their victims).

I have read the description of A.C's rather disturbing dream related to "the child of his bowels" which I don't particularly want to repeat now.

If there is some connection here then Lam himself could be the "child of [his] bowels". From Liber AL it isn't clear if the child mentioned in "child of thy bowels" and "it shall be his child & that strangely" is  the same, but for now we can assume so.

 

The pointy hat version:

lam04

 

Notice how a number 4 now appears in the circle, and this circle has now been "exploded" into four. The irrational statement "this circle squared in its failure is a key also" now resonates with what is seen here. "Then this line drawn is a key" - what seemed like a meaningless line now becomes the main outline of the image. The "chance shape of the letters and their position to one another" make up the details of the pic.

 

When flipping these images, it suggests the effect of flipping and folding dimensions. An "extradimensional" entity such as Lam would appear in and disappear from our reality by "flipping" through dimensions and folding them in on themselves.

 

"Expect him not from the East, nor from the West;
for from no expected house cometh that child."

 

So here I am suggesting that the "Child" isn't some smart-ass who solves all the riddles of AL but could actually be Lam. The "and that strangely" suggests this seemingly completely baffling ability an extradimensional entity would have to appear in our reality. This extra dimension ("from no expected house")  in addition to our usual "three plus time" is almost impossible for humans to imagine (under normal circumstances).

This isn't all about Lam as some kind of external entity of course. To me this suggests the possibility of gaining "Extradimensional Perception", and Lam could be the focus point of this.

 

The hat plus horns version:

lam05

 

And the final colourized version:

lam06

 

2nd disclaimer: Its important to note that I made this pic with the pdf version not the "raw" version. The pdf version has extra white space at the bottom of the page. This causes the layers to be aligned differently when you flip them. Here's a comparison of the 2:

comparison

 

This is the result of flipping the "raw" page:

no lam

Lam is barely to be seen, though the outline is there. He hasn't quite emerged into our reality. 

 

With a bit of aligning, Lam comes into focus:

60raw

I think this pic is just as good if not better than the pdf one.

 

I don't know how important you may consider this "misalignment". It could be that Lam (or his buddy, Aiwass) planned this all along and waited until this pdf image was made before revealing himself. 🙂 

From what I have read on this forum, AC literally pasted the sheets to some backing material at some point and then re-cut them later on. It may be that some of this page was cut off the bottom in the process. It was just a happy accident that the pdf image turned out that way with the alignments just right for Lam to appear.

 

If you would like a version of Lam in some particular combination of colours/hat/horns/no horns, or have any other ideas, let me know and I can put something together.

Best regards,

Duck

 

(before forming any opinions on this you might want to check the date of this post)


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01/04/2020 2:50 pm  

I am speechless


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01/04/2020 3:05 pm  

Great stuff, Duck.

 

I especially find these ones really interesting:

Posted by: @duck

 

Posted by: @duck

We've all heard the creepy stories of how these aliens are obsessed with examining people's "bowels" (some new-agey UFO types say this has to do with the "Root Chakra", and that these entities are vampirically "harvesting" energy from their victims).

 

I think everyone has their own opinions of UFOs/Aliens and what they are, but I've personally been interested in the view expounded by people like Jacques Vallée (Messengers of Deception: UFO contacts and cults) and Charles Upton (Cracks in the Great Wall: The UFO Phenomenon and Traditional Metaphysics) who view this phenomena as something extra-dimensional (Jacques considers them outright demonic while Upton considers them djinnic) rather than visitors from outer space or some sort of representatives of "space brotherhood".

 

 

 

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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01/04/2020 3:14 pm  

This is the Way.

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01/04/2020 5:28 pm  
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I call this, 'The South Shall Rise from Ecstasy to Ecstasy'.

"'Dreadful Era, Black Epoch, Dreadful Hour,'"

p. 418, The Cyclopædia of Fraternities

Really though, I'm just messing with you. That's pretty cool, duck. One for the books.


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01/04/2020 5:34 pm  

Duck,

This is very interesting work you've done. I once subscribed to a NY based printmaking zine which had an issue focused on "digital printmaking." This was based on the idea of using digital media to "carve" into negative space ala a traditional print block. Your "revealed image" most certainly has this feel. The colored image(s) feel very much like a Tarot card from an "Eldritch" deck. 

While we are talking about precision and license with Gematria in other threads, I find that "Art Magick" can be a very powerful, if initially subjective, means to induce "Change according to Will." I think you've already uncovered some very interesting connections with this present exploration and your revealed LAM is quite striking. 


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01/04/2020 6:49 pm  

I forgot to include this one in the OP:

lam double

The double-headed Lam, which suggests his "extradimensional" nature. For example if we consider time as a dimension, we can only move in one direction through it, whereas Lam can move through both past and present as easily as up and down.

 

@djedi

LOL, that's an even better likeness than the Tibetan angle I was going for! What is it with all these pointy hoods and what mysterious powers do they give the wearer?

 

@kidneyhawk

Thanks, that sort of puts into words some of the vague thoughts that I get from all this. "Art Magick". Yes, the initial image I got could have been seen very differently by someone else. I had to "carve" Lam out of there to really see him. Like he could only manage to come into focus that much and then it was up to me to turn the "fine tuning knob" to help him the rest of the way.

 

@behemoth

With Lam's seeming connection with Tibet we could consider him a "deity" of sorts. Tibetan Buddhism has "peaceful" and "wrathful" deities. Lam isn't exactly one or the other though he may fall under a third category: "creepy". Entities like Lam can seem quite scary, though if one can face this fear one can move on with greater understanding.

This is my first attempt at "Lam" when I first noticed him about a year ago:

p60 crop feedback lam

I gave him the "narrow-style" eyes of the original Lam. The shape of his head turned out quite different. 🙂 


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Posted by: @duck

In a previous post, I wrote how "Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!" can be interpreted in a visual way and this "pasting" is very easily done with modern image software.

I'm glad my suggestion from 27th Jan in that other thread (that "[copy &] paste the sheets..." might be explained as 'Aiwass xenochronologically anticipating computer jargon') seems to have borne fruit with such creativity.  Well done, your duckness!

Is it me or does Lam appear to be smoking a pipe (particularly in some of them looking from the perspective of 'stage right')?

Trompe l'oeilishly yours

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01/04/2020 7:48 pm  

@jamiejbarter

Now that you mention it... 

Either that or playing a kazoo. 🙂 

 

The pipe smoking could bring a "Castanedic" angle to this, but that might be "too much".

It also reflects my own present struggles to be free of the accursed Vape-Pipe. (day 4 no-vape)


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01/04/2020 7:56 pm  

Different hat.

92dfaefe0522a027203e2def0de32e27

 


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01/04/2020 8:18 pm  

@chuck

Do we know the significance of this hat or whether it is actually meant to be a hat? It looks more like its behind Lam's head than on it. AC not being that great of an artist would explain it but I think he was competent enough to have drawn it properly. I've seen this pic before and wondered if it has any deeper meaning.


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Posted by: @duck

 

@behemoth

With Lam's seeming connection with Tibet we could consider him a "deity" of sorts. Tibetan Buddhism has "peaceful" and "wrathful" deities. Lam isn't exactly one or the other though he may fall under a third category: "creepy". Entities like Lam can seem quite scary, though if one can face this fear one can move on with greater understanding.

This is my first attempt at "Lam" when I first noticed him about a year ago:

p60 crop feedback lam

 

 

 

Grey aliens did not probably exist in the 'collective unconscious' of Crowley, at least not during the time when Crowley drew his portrait of LAM. "LAM is the Tibetan word for Way or Path, and Lama is He who Goeth", at least according to Liber 71 where the picture of LAM appears. So there is the first Tibet connection.

 

I'm no expert in Ufo lore, but I think it is quite safe to assume that it began no earlier than in mid 1947 with the Roswell incident (ancient alien and ancient astronauts theorists might disagree).

 

There is still at least some sort of connection with the concept of Agartha, "Hollow Earth", Lamaism, early 1900s occultism, ufo lore and science fiction.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha

 

I think there are even some folk traditions of North America that also tell of a tree by means of which the men who originally lived in the interior of the earth reached the surface, whereas other men of the same race remained in the underground world.

 

Then we also have the novel by Bulwer-Lytton, "VRIL: THE COMING RACE" which probably was partly inspired by these myths (the novel describes highly advanced underground civilization).

 

VRIL also has resurfaced in more modern ufo-lore, sometimes as power source for the flying saucers (or as the saucer model name in the fringe circles), sometimes as the disputed "VRIL Society" (that probably did not exist):

 

I think the most popular version of the story is that it was a saucer shaped object that crashed on Roswell?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhashrama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambala
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha

 

Agartha was most probably connected with Siddhashram of the Yogis or the 'Shambhala' of the Tibetan Buddhists.

 

Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier write in The Morning of the Magicians:

According to the legend with which Haushofer no doubt became acquainted in 1905, and the version which René Guénon gave of it in his Le Roi du Monde, after the cataclysm of Gobi the lords and masters of this great center of civilization, the All-Knowing, the sons of Intelligences from Beyond, took up their abode in a vast underground encampment under the Himalayas. There, in the heart of these caves, they divided into two groups, one following the "Right Hand Way," and the other the "Left Hand Way." The first of these had its center at Agarthi, a place of meditation, a hidden city of Goodness, a temple of nonparticipation in the things of this world.

 

The second went to Schamballah [sic], a city of violence and power whose forces command the elements and the masses of humanity, and hasten the arrival of the human race at the "turning-point of time." The Wise Men, leaders of the peoples of the world, would be able to conclude a pact with Schamballah, which would be sealed with solemn oaths and sacrifices.

 

Most of the theories regarding the mysterious Agartha still have their beginning with Saint Yves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Saint-Yves_d%27Alveydre#Contact_with_Agartha

 

During 1885, Saint-Yves was supposedly visited by a group of Eastern Initiates, one of them being named prince Hardjij Scharipf. It was then that he associated synarchy with "ascended masters" based in caverns of Agartha, who supposedly communicated with him telepathically.

 

Saint-Yves also describes:

describing the different degrees or circles of the initiatic hierarchy which correspond specifically to certain symbolic numerals, particularly those of the divisions of time, concludes: 'the highest circle, nearest to the mysterious centre, is composed of twelve members who represent the supreme initiation and correspond, amongst other things, with the Zodiacal Zone'. This constitution is reproduced in what is known as the 'Circular Council' of the Dalai Lama, a council comprising twelve grand Namshans (or Nomekhans)

 

Then we have the account of Ossendowski:

The explorer Ferdynand Ossendowski wrote a book in 1922 titled Beasts, Men and Gods. In the book, Ossendowski tells of a story which was imparted to him concerning a subterranean kingdom which exists inside the Earth. This kingdom was known to the fictional Buddhists society as Agharti.

 

Who claims connection between centre of Lamaism and the capital of Agartha: 'the capital of Agharti recalls Lhasa where the Dalai Lama's palace, the Potala, is situated on top of a mountain that is covered over with temples and monasteries'.

 

I could continue all night. Somehow these superfluous descriptions of Shambala-Agartha-Tibetan Masters of Blavatsky-Dalai Lama got heavily mixed up with the Hollow Earth, probably some point during the early 1900s, later they were absorbed by various ufo-folklorists and now we may end up reading news like this:
https://nypost.com/2017/12/26/conspiracy-theorists-convinced-earth-is-hollow-and-filled-with-aliens/

 

This episode was also on Ancient Aliens Season 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vt5paORIc

 

I personally cannot make sense out of this mess. But there you have it: some sort of incoherent post trying to explain some sort of subconscious pop culture connection between LAM, Lamas, Grey aliens, flying saucers, and Hollow Earth and Tibetan Masters.

 

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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02/04/2020 12:52 am  

I thought I'd see if anything stuck out to me in the page.

aprilfools

Happy April Fools' day, everybody.


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02/04/2020 3:12 am  

Good work @duck, but I don't think that these praeterhumans are aliens. 


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02/04/2020 6:25 am  

@behemoth

Thanks, it paints a picture of what was going on with these theories in A.C's day. Some of those ideas seem a bit "quaint" to us now and there was a lot "Orientalist" fantasy going on then. It helps to make a bit of sense of how AC saw Lam, its hard for us to not see him as a "grey alien" but that's probably not what AC intended (he wasn't that great an artist).

These myths seem to evolve and get reinterpreted according to the level of understanding and technology at the time (similarly to "the Mark of the Beast" myth mentioned recently in another thread).

It is interesting to note that the UFO phenomenon began in the same year AC died, as if that "Victorian" view on these matters died with him and a whole new era of weirdness began with new myths according to the level of technology of the time.

 

Posted by: @behemoth

I personally cannot make sense out of this mess

Well said and I think anyone who says otherwise (most likely) lying. The levels of bizarreness are so high that I think we are just not perceiving all the dimensions out there and have a very limited viewpoint from which things like this are just incomprehensible.

 

Posted by: @faustian

I don't think that these praeterhumans are aliens

I tend to agree, they're (probably) not "little green men" who fly around in real, physical spaceships. Even Lam may not be an actual "entity" but more of an "image" that appears when certain things are in alignment.


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Posted by: @duck

With Lam's seeming connection with Tibet we could consider him a "deity" of sorts. Tibetan Buddhism has "peaceful" and "wrathful" deities

Posted by: @duck

These myths seem to evolve and get reinterpreted according to the level of understanding and technology at the time (similarly to "the Mark of the Beast" myth mentioned recently in another thread).

 

Coming back to your wrathful deities speculation:

 

In a book called "The Shadow of the Dalai Lama: Sexuality, Magic and Politics in Tibetan Buddhism" by Victor and Victoria Trimond there is a chapter called "Lethal War Machines"

 

Lethal war machines

 

The graphic description of the war machines to which the Kalachakra deity devotes a number of pages already in the first chapter of the tantra is downright impressive and astonishing (Newman, 1987, pp. 553-570, verses 135-145; Grönbold, 1996). A total of seven exceptionally destructive arts of weapon are introduced. All take the form of a wheel. The text refers to them as yantras. There is a “wind machine” which is primarily put into action against mountain forts. They float over the enemy army and let burning oil run out all over them. The same happens to the houses and palaces of the opponent. The second art of weapon is described as a “sword in the ground machine”. This acts as a personal protection for the “wrathful wheel turner”. Anyone who enters his palace without permission and steps upon the machine hidden beneath the floor is inevitably cut to pieces. As the third art follows the “harpoon machine”, a kind of ancient machine gun. At the squeeze of a finger, “many straight arrows or sharp Harpoons hat pierce and pass through the body of an armored elephant” (Newman, 1987, p. 506).

 

We are acquainted with three further extremely effective “rotating weapons” which shear everything away, above all the heads of the enemy troops. One of them is compared to the wheels of the sun chariot. This is probably a variant of the solar discus which the Indian god Vishnu successfully put to use against the demon hordes. Such death wheels have played a significant role in Tibet’s magic military history right up into this century. We shall return to this topic at a later point. These days, believers in the Shambhala myth see “aircraft” or “UFOs” in them which are armed with atomic bombs and are guided by the world king’s extraterrestrial support troops.

 

 

Especially keeping in mind Crowley's old comment to verses of Liber Al's chapter III and various other threads that have explored the war engine of Liber AL here on lashtal.com

 

AL III,4: “Choose ye an island!”

The Old Comment
4. An Island = one of the Cakkrams or nerve-centres in the spine.

 

AL III,5: “Fortify it!”

The Old Comment
5. Fortify it = concentrate the mind upon it.

 

AL III,6: “Dung it about with enginery of war!

The Old Comment
6. Prevent any impressions reaching it.

 

Posted by: @duck

Well said and I think anyone who says otherwise (most likely) lying. The levels of bizarreness are so high that I think we are just not perceiving all the dimensions out there and have a very limited viewpoint from which things like this are just incomprehensible.

 

It is a bizarre subject, but it would also be a gross misinterpretation to regard Vishnu's solar disc Sudarshana Chakra or those weapons of war wielded by the more wrathful aspects of Kalachakra deities as a physical weapons of modern warfare. Even though, like you said, these myths tend to evolve and get reinterpreted according to the level of understanding and technology at the time.

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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02/04/2020 10:18 am  

Here's the full size pic in case someone wants to "carve" out their own Lam:

 

This is easily done with any image editor like MS-Paint. I usually use GIMP which is free. A better artist than me could do a much better job.

 

Notice how the only numbers or letters that are recognizable anymore are "4" and "16". There are now 4 "copies" of the circle each with 4 in them, and 16 is the page number written on the page. 4 x 4 = 16.

I made a little animation to show how Lam's image is composed of 16 copies of the page:


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02/04/2020 6:59 pm  
Posted by: @duck
lam double

The double-headed Lam, which suggests his "extradimensional" nature.

When user art was still in the galleries there was an upload by someone who had inverted and coloured the image posted by @chuck and titled it MAL. 👽

You asked about the significance. There's speculation that the hat/crown is the shaft of a penis. Perhaps, when inverted, indicating a relevance to Liber A'ash:  3. There is a flaming gash in the sky. 4. Up. 

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02/04/2020 7:42 pm  

@xon

lol. I think I see where you're going with this. That may have been the artist's intention though I still want to find some deeper meaning to this "hat" even if AC wasn't consciously aware of any. For example, it has 24 "hearts" on it. There have been some findings that the number 24 is significant to the cipher (for example, multiplying the digits, 4*6*3*8*2*4*3*2*4*8*9 = 7962624, the 5th power of 24).


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02/04/2020 9:57 pm  

Awesome.  I shared this on r/thelema. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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02/04/2020 11:35 pm  

I gotta say, WOW! 😧 This thread has blown me away. I have a few insights I'm dwelling on that I may add soon. 

 

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Posted by: @fraterihsan

I gotta say, WOW! 😧 This thread has blown me away. I have a few insights I'm dwelling on that I may add soon. 

 

Love is the Law, Love under Will

93, fraterihsan. Welcome to LAShTAL.
 
 
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

Awesome.  I shared this on r/thelema. 

That explains why the guest count has been so high for this thread today. It was in the upper 30s earlier.

Maybe we'll see more young blood signing up.

 

 

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03/04/2020 12:22 am  

@fraterihsan

Welcome to LAShTAL. Greeting & Health.

Now, I am assuming the role of the boring old man & ask myself (this is nothing personal): why the hell everybody has to change "the style of a letter"?

I have seen some 343 variations of the seven letters, and it's just a f***ing simple as this:

Love is the law, love under will.

 


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why the hell everybody has to change "the style of a letter"?

 Aw, shucks, the rumor's (rumour's) out that AC changed the style of several letters, and numbers to boot. So with that heresy blowin' in the wind, other folks just can't help doin' the twist. This has been a test of your street-level American slang language, from our glorious sixties ... even if there's no people on that street now.

Posted by: @serpent252

I have seen some 343 variations of the seven letters, and it's just a f***ing simple as this:

Love is the law, love under will.

You now assume the viewpoint of Mr. White, who said, "The book says Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. What else do you want?"

 


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03/04/2020 1:34 am  

@shiva

I just been thinking about you, asking myself "Where is Shiva" & I've been starting to worry.

Thank goodness, you are here.


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Posted by: @serpent252

I just been thinking about you, asking myself "Where is Shiva" & I've been starting to worry.

Thank goodness, you are here.

Do you mean, somewhere on the page 60 mishmash and keeping Lam company?  Or somewhere else on Lashtal (when in reality he is actually holed up in splendid isolation "somewhere in New Mexico"?)...

Yours elsewhere,

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Posted by: @jamiejbarter

in reality he is actually holed up in splendid isolation "somewhere in New Mexico"?

Just head south from Albuquerque, and look for the UFOs circling overhead.

Determine the central point of their aerial maneuvers, and there you will find Mr. and Mrs. Shiva, defended by two very ferocious dogs. And the .44 magnum (and probably more, knowing our Frater).


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The olds get a little confused and start derailing sometimes. It's probably not intentional. Maybe they just want to be noticed or acknowledged.

 

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it has 24 "hearts" on it. There have been some findings that the number 24 is significant to the cipher

The 24th letter of the alphabet "X" is prominent in the artwork.

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The olds get a little confused and start derailing sometimes. It's probably not intentional. Maybe they just want to be noticed or acknowledged.

Before you get too into posting this sort of ageist bigotry, you might want to bear in mind that our host is an "old", who may not take kindly to your nonsense, especially from a repeat thread derailer/troll like you.


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It was humour, no need to be so sensitive and our host wasn't derailing, so it doesn't apply.

No one is fooled by your manufactured outrage anymore after the way you've been acting out over the last few months. People have seen you on here and on reddit screeching ageist bigotry against youth. Stop being a hypocrite, @ignant.

Be nice and self-aware. Develop yourself. Improve.

Have a Lam sandwich.

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I am sure you will be amused when i post "jokes" about swastika-fancying "Red Indian" cos-players with water bottles.

Life pro tip: You don't get to play Mr. Woke, and Mr. PC Butthurt, if you engage in casual bigotry about groups to which you don't belong.


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Posted by: @ignant666

I am sure you will be amused when i post "jokes" about swastika-fancying "Red Indian" cos-players with water bottles.

Life pro tip: You don't get to play Mr. Woke, and Mr. PC Butthurt, if you engage in casual bigotry about groups to which you don't belong.

Thank you for revealing yourself.

The magic mirror can be used for self-evaluation and personal development.

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The magic mirror can be used for self-evaluation and personal development.

Might want to try it some time yourself, if you can spare the time from pretending to be a "woke" adept online.


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The magic mirror can be used for self-evaluation and personal development.

Might want to try it some time yourself, if you can spare the time from pretending to be a "woke" adept online.

It's good for everyone and time should be made for the practice. Examine oneself instead of pointing fingers and avoidance.

Would you be lost if you didn't get the last word?

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Would you be lost if you didn't get the last word?

No, but you might be. When you post your inevitable sanctimonious reply, we will see this need.

Two can play the passive-aggressive game you know, Mr. Pointing Fingers And Avoidance.


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Would you be lost if you didn't get the last word?

No

Then you won't mind ending this conversation on my post without replying.

Back to topic. 👽

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And the .44 magnum (and probably more, knowing our Frater).

How dare you? I have never owned or even fired a .44 in my lifetimes. We both specialize in .357s. We have come to an agreement with our home: We will paint and repair it, and it will not attack use.We have nothing heavier-duty in stock. All that stuff got sold half a decade ago.

The UFO phenomenon has withdrawn into inactivity, since even before May of last year. The division hither homeward has now descended to physical reality that everyone can read about, but no one can see. Mask up or die.

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Be nice and self-aware. Develop yourself. Improve.

Hey! Deem yourself not about people changing with the tymes. Nobody is gonna be caste down or developed up. The young will be condescending still, and the oldens shall be as is fittingly filthy as is their want for decrepit deviant holy men on a buddha stick. Did that help?

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Thank you for revealing yourself.

The magic mirror can be used for self-evaluation and personal development.

Mal-Xon (Nox-Lam) now pretends to be an online robot site that quotes Oriental yama and niyama for the benefit of all beings.

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pretending to be a "woke" adept online.

I thought the term was Wookies.

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Would you be lost if you didn't get the last word?

He will be last (in line) to get the lost word. Please keep the context clear. All bodhisattvas are last in line because they refuse to enter nirvana and escape the plague and other irritants until the last cows have been chased into the barn.

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Back to topic.

Not until I utter the mysterious word and utter the untold name ...

Lam.

In the pics, no less. Digital occultism. Hiding in plain sight (plane site) 'til a Duck spins the digital wheel.

 


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I thought the term was Wookies.

No, "wookies", or "wooks", is what the young punk-rock kids call hippies these days.

And I apologize for imagining that you and Mrs Shiva would need mere terrestrial weapons to defend yourselves should your domicile attack, rather than reaching an understanding.

Revised Shiva Compound Defensive Profile: Undisclosed number of .357 mags; 2 ferocious hell-hounds; pentagrams; chemical weapons; left headlight of auto psy-war-capable. Unknown unknowns abound.

To get back OT, the expression "to take it on the lam" is first attested in written use in the year the world was destroyed by fire (1904), according to my Partridge's A dictionary of the underworld (1950), with "lam" in the sense of "escape The Man" attested in 1886. Most criminal slang is very very old, and this term is probably much older than Partridge could trace.

So "Lam" is "escape".

 


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@ignant666

 

.357 be plenny big..shonuff. 

Ma problem be...only got like, six wheels ammo.  

Them shits 'spensive now. 

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Scram, its the coppers. 


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@duck

 

It is silly, but it is a good bit of April Fool's for sure. I like your image shenanigans. imagenigans . mages. 

Pareidolia?

 


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Baseball bats, swords, and machetes don't need reloading, but then you have to let The Bad Guys within 25' of you, which is never a good idea. That 25' thing is why the Good Lord caused man to invent firearms, after all.

As was said in the 19th century "God made men, but Samuel Colt made all men equal" [thus the term "equalizer" for a rod, gat, strap, toolie, or firearm].

So far, though, our current End Of The World doesn't seem to call for too much fire-power- everyone is still too scared of getting infected to loot and pillage.

My fencing teacher as a lad was a Monsieur Pellicier, former fencing instructor to the French Army. He had two mottoes that he drilled into us youths with many whacks of his foil on our heads: "'E who fights and ruuuns away, Leeves to fight anozzer day!" and "Bettair a live shicken zan a dead duck!" M. Pellicier is the only person i could come up with thinking about "Was there ever a guru figure in my life?"

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Posted by: @ignant666

Undisclosed number of .357 mags; 2 ferocious hell-hounds; pentagrams; chemical weapons; left headlight of auto psy-war-capable. Unknown unknowns abound

.357s (2). .22 pistols (2). .22 rifles (2). 18-ga shotgun (1).
(.22s are kid-stuff. But as my concealed-carry instructor said, "Oh yeah? Are you the one who will volunteer to stand up to one? Note: More people die from .22 rounds than any other caliber).

Terribly ferocious dogs (against reptiles and birds). Friendly towards all humans, except for those they don't like (rare, but common enough among certain workers).

Samurai swords (4). Assorted sharp or pointed dental instruments. A yard full of stones.

Chemicals: Wasp & Hornet spray. Petrol bombs. Acetone. Super glue.

Four-wheel-drive vehicle. Useless in stay-at-home scenarios.

Lam sez: "Be Prepared."

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Pareidolia?

Rude or offensive lingo is prohibited by The Guidelines.

Posted by: @ignant666

everyone is still too scared of getting infected to loot and pillage.

That comes later. When the food runs out.

Lam sez: "You better gather goods, women, and spices. Wine, strange drugs, and cows (li'l and big).

 


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'Now this is a noife' 


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Only doing as we are commanded in AL III:6.

Dung it about with enginery of war!

Life is not all wine and strange drugs, after all.

I am remiss, with only a couple of .22 rifles, an air-rifle, a few air-pistols, Mace, many, many swords, machetes, daggers, and knives, nunchucks, brass knuckles, and assorted blunt instruments.

And a baseball bat by the front door, the traditional Brooklyn "'[person who has intercourse with his mother*], be cool!' tool" for answering the door to strangers.

Not that remiss i suppose. Still best to lam when possible.

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*I know some are turning all prissy about foul language, here on this site devoted to the work and legacy of Aleister Crowley, author of "Leah Sublime", so i didn't want to say "motherfucker".


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@ignant666

 

It's cool B.

 

I loved the scene in Pulp Fiction when the Brits were trying to be American in their slang. In the diner at the end/beginning.

It was so outrE.

 

'B be cool....say it.'

 

That's not very English, is it Dom?

 

Let us all hope in c'est temps d these times of travail that we do not have to resort to blunt instruments and cutting edges.

 

After all, we are all humans together on this ball of dust.

 

We shall all die and we shall all suffer.

 

Let us help each other.

 

But I do like a good fight. 

Crowley help me I have always been a Yellow mage and decadent. 

 


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I leave the "burgers" alone for a few minutes on this thread and they start talking about "muh guns". 😜 

That's all very well and may have some Thelemic significance like ignant said ("dung it about..."), but that might be better off in its own thread.

 

Bringing it back to "Lam", here's an animation made by rotating the initial page a tiny bit each time before "flipping it":

 

I think it gives the impression of Lam coming into focus in and fading out from our "reality".

 

Posted by: @christibrany

It is silly, but it is a good bit of April Fool's for sure. I like your image shenanigans. imagenigans . mages. 

Pareidolia?

Pareidolia:

kitkat jesus 500x352

Yeah, that could be a description for this, but then again Gematria and the results QBL-heads get from it could be seen as "mathematical pareidolia".

I made this thread as an example of the kind of "outside the box" thinking that I'd like to see from solutions to Liber AL's riddles. I tend to find the more conventional "solutions" a bit boring. This "outside the box" stuff doesn't come naturally to me, I just stumbled into it with the help of Lam. 🙂 


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@duck

 

All good mate.

I just don't buy it.

I am a mystic and a budding mage but I am also very ..extremely pragmatic. 

 

But with humour.

 

Is that a sleepy/dead Jesus in a Kit Kat? 


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I just don't buy it.

This probably isn't the solution to the puzzle but more of an example of the kind of "thinking" I would like to see if a real solution does ever emerge. The numbers and letters stuff is fine but can become quite tiresome.

 

The Kit Kat Jesus was in the tabloids a couple of years ago. It was probably a hoax but still funny. I think they were going for the Turin shroud look.


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Re the Kit Kat Jesus Of Turin: A deceased Gurdjieffian heroin-using muso pal once told me he thought his pancakes were haunted. Drugs may have been involved.


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@ignant666

Luckily I never got hooked on any of that sort of thing though I go through cycles of being hooked on vaping and getting off it again. It was amusing that @jamiejbarter saw Lam smoking a pipe in the pics as I was on one of these vaping "binges" while putting those pics together. It was sort of "psychically" relevant.

 

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Take it on the Lam, my son. 23 skiddoo.

"Lam" is a letter in the Arabic alphabet (the equivalent of "Lamed"). There seem to be different orders of this alphabet from what I can tell though in one of these it is the 23rd letter.

You may be aware of the mysterious letters at the beginning of some Quran verses. A common sequence of these letters is "alif", "lam", "mim" (A, L, M). Maybe Lam is hiding there in anagram form.


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