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04/04/2020 3:07 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Life is not all wine and strange drugs, after all.

No, there's all them damn cattle.

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I am remiss, with only a couple of .22 rifles

I starting shifting toward .22s a long time ago (16 years or so). It's the cheapest ammo around, and you can (used to) get it in subsonic loads. These make less noise than a cap pistol, but they are accurate.

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we do not have to resort to blunt instruments and cutting edges.

Shiva goes On Record and sez: Not this time. It will pass. Business will go back to usual. Then the elections will come to a WORLD that has just brushed against A Fast-Moving Angel of Death. A Pass-though, not a Pass-over. Around that time, you (anyone) might be on the lookout for suitable doo-dads of self-defendo. Aikido training would be very helpful; too bad it only takes 20 or 30 years to develop the level of skill required for election mayhem. I speak of any elections, anywhere. The Word of the Yuga is Wuwei.

6+6+6+5+10 = 33

Get it?

A black two-headed Eagle is GOD;
even a Black
Triangle is He.
In His claws He beareth a sword;
yea, a sharp sword is held therein.

-Liber 333 - Ch 33

What else do you want.

Shiva now goes Off the Record.

The needle skips across the grooves in the Record as the imposter priests scramble to maintain the recording. (That's a little Dreamspell parable.

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Let us help each other.

Which line is that again? In AL, Ch III?

Don't get me wrong. I practice the vice of compassion. The Oriental martial arts teaches that one (anyone) should never throw the first punch. After that, it's just a matter of survival.

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Crowley help me I have always been a Yellow mage and decadent. 

That's okay. It will get you to Tiphareth. After that, your order will change, and you can work out the difference with your praeterhuman Self.

Posted by: @duck

I leave the "burgers" alone for a few minutes on this thread and they start talking about "muh guns".

But, you see, this same multilogue came up, not long ago. I may have started it. If not, I certainly chimed in. I think it might have been an off topic discussion, with instructions, on how to prepare for The end of the World. It was predicted as coming soon to a neighborhood near you by some raving ascetic clad in a pace suit.

"Get your food, water, and gear in order. Guns recommended. Where guns are forbidden, alternatives were starting to be mentioned. Then the off-topic banter died away. Why?

Because some sensitive people complained about gun-talk. Like you just did. So we'll probably drop it now, and get back to Lam (71), but anybody who's short on anything now didn't pay attention the first time around.

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This "outside the box" stuff doesn't come naturally to me, I just stumbled into it with the help of Lam.

And the difference between these two possibilities is ...?


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04/04/2020 3:36 am  
Posted by: @shiva

some sensitive people complained about gun-talk. Like you just did

I wasn't so much complaining as laughing at the stereotype of "Yanks and they're guns" (which is just as much about my ignorance on the matter as anything). I don't have a problem with gun-talk if it can have its own place but it can sort of over power something subtle like Lam.

 

Posted by: @shiva

Wuwei.

6+6+6+5+10 = 33

You've posted a similar one with TAO = 80 before and I thought I'd just point out how absurd this is when you stop and think about it for a minute: 

You're using a Chinese word transliterated into English and then transliterating that into Hebrew to sum it up. 😆 

(I'm not judging anything here, I just find it "amusing")


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04/04/2020 3:49 am  

@Shiva

 This Work also eats up itself, accomplishes its own
    end, nourishes the worker, leaves no seed, is 
perfect in itself. Little children, love one another!


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04/04/2020 4:19 am  
Posted by: @shiva

I wasn't so much complaining as laughing

Yes, I know. But the previous round was really-sensitive people, and we were getting really serious about common sense survival. You did not really complain and you displayed no over-sensitivity, but your slightest nuance evoked the previous round, and so by virtue of similarly sympathetic magic, you were linked with them, and now bear their karma as well as your own.

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You're using a Chinese word transliterated into English and then transliterating that into Hebrew to sum it up.

That is correct.

When you go to Las Vegas, or some Trribal Casino, you put your numbers down, phonetically, which is what pinyin is (phonetic Mandarin, authorized and promoted by The People's Republic of Communist China.tong), and then your sum is where the wheel stops when you add up the numbers. You or me. Win or lose.

Now if you want to argue about how the wheel turns, or what numbers were played, and lodge a complaint with the management to CHANGE the system, that is an example of "Crowley QBL, or "fiddling."

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I'm not judging anything here, I just find it "amusing")

It's hilarious. None of this has anything to do with the spiritual path, which involves extinguishing one's self in as many ways as possible, except to assist one to order one's mind, so it won't get in the way when the higher circuits get switched on. Insanity is so messy, you know?

 


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Nobody is gonna be caste down or developed up. The young will be condescending still, and the oldens shall be as is fittingly filthy as is their want for decrepit deviant holy men on a buddha stick. Did that help?Did that help?

It was revealing.  Both in your use of Liber Al to validate stagnancy, but also how you interpret 'none that shall be cast down or lifted up'.

In Liber LXXI there may be some guidance for the initiated, dependent on grade according to Crowley:

It is astonishing and distressing to notice how the Lanoo, no matter what happens to him, soaring aloft like the phang, and sailing gloriously through innumerable Gates of High Initiation, nevertheless keeps his original Point of View, like a Bourbon. He is always getting rid of Illusions, but, like the entourage of the Cardinal Lord Arch­bishop of Rheims after he cursed the thief, nobody seems one penny the worse—or the better.

An initiated understanding can be drawn from Liber XC ver 41:

But since one is naturally attracted to the Angel, another to the Demon, let the first strengthen the lower link, the last attach more firmly to the higher.

Even with the destruction of Illusion the Point of View remains the same since Point of View is metaphysically located to a set position in one's relationship to the Angel or Demon.

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04/04/2020 5:02 am  
Posted by: @shiva

this same multilogue came up, not long ago. I may have started it. If not, I certainly chimed in. I think it might have been an off topic discussion

So that off topic subject gets brought up again here since this thread about Duck's Lam work has so much relevance to it or, since it doesn't, is it that this thread has become high profile because Set-Tetu-Ra posted it to reddit that you want to derail and hijack it for your own ends?


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04/04/2020 6:24 am  

Yes, yes, yes. All of the above, plus a pot more.


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04/04/2020 6:59 am  
Posted by: @duck

I think it gives the impression of Lam coming into focus in and fading out from our "reality".

Looking forward to Lam in the hypercube. 🛸


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04/04/2020 9:23 am  
Posted by: @duck

I have read the description of A.C's rather disturbing dream related to "the child of his bowels" which I don't particularly want to repeat now.

Posted by: @duck

Maybe the original was of a juvenile of Lam's race and this one is an adult.

 

Coming back to the original post of yours, I forgot to ask; which description/disturbing dream account you are referring here Duck?

 

When it comes to the topic of Lam, there was an old thread here on lashtal that speculated of a scene found in Crowley’s Confessions Chapter 31 as a possible real world candidate for Crowley’s inspiration for the Lam drawing, at least if we are to consider the original Lam drawing as a juvenile.

 

In the Confessions chapter 31 Crowley is visiting Myanmar’s Rangoon/Yangon Shwedagon Padoga:

 

The Confessions of Aleister Crowley, Chapter 31

 

On a litter in the shadow of the pagoda lay a boy of about fourteen years. He suffered from hydrocephalus. An enormous head, horrifyingly inane, surmounted a shrivelled body, too feeble even to support it. There indeed was a manifest symbol of the universe as conceived by the Buddha! Senseless suffering proves that nature has no purpose or pity. The existence of a single item of this kind in the inventory demonstrates the theorem. As I gazed on the child, I began to understand that all the syllogisms of optimism were enthymemes. Every teleology depends on the error of generalizing from a few selected phenomena. The boy impressed me more than the pagoda. One was the freak of misfortune; the other the considered climax of colossal care. Yet both were transitory and trivial toys of time.

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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04/04/2020 11:48 am  
Posted by: @duck

I have read the description of A.C's rather disturbing dream related to "the child of his bowels" which I don't particularly want to repeat now.

Posted by: @behemoth

which description/disturbing dream account you are referring here

Oh well, I was hoping I didn't have mention it but here we go:

"A most frightful semi-dream (between two normal
motions) of giving birth to a foetus per anum. It was a mass of blood and
slime. The nastiest Qliphotic experience I can remember."

(If you didn't figure it out, he means out of his butt-hole 😬 )

 

So the "child of his bowels" and this disturbing dream tie in with the stories we've all heard of "grey aliens" and their obsession with "anal probes".

 

Posted by: @behemoth

a possible real world candidate for Crowley’s inspiration for the Lam drawing

It seemed a bit disrespectful to post actual photos of hydrocephalus but I found this old illustration of a skull:

 

It does have the look of these aliens I guess. Some descriptions of "greys" are that they are reminiscent of a human fetus.


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04/04/2020 11:53 am  
Posted by: @duck
Posted by: @duck

I have read the description of A.C's rather disturbing dream related to "the child of his bowels" which I don't particularly want to repeat now.

Posted by: @behemoth

which description/disturbing dream account you are referring here

Oh well, I was hoping I didn't have mention it but here we go:

"A most frightful semi-dream (between two normal
motions) of giving birth to a foetus per anum. It was a mass of blood and
slime. The nastiest Qliphotic experience I can remember."

 

Oh, that one.

 

There is some "composite artwork" perhaps somewhat related to that passage and LAM by Gregory Von Seewald.

 

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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04/04/2020 12:27 pm  

@behemoth

Very surreal. Not sure what to make of it but it has the fetus there.

A short clip that I think is relevant to all this somehow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6umxthz1Ys

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04/04/2020 1:32 pm  
Posted by: @shiva
Posted by: @duck

This "outside the box" stuff doesn't come naturally to me, I just stumbled into it with the help of Lam.

And the difference between these two possibilities is ...?

Well said.

 

Posted by: @shiva

Lam (71)

From Seph. Seph. appropriate to this stuff: 71 = "Nothing; an apparition, image"

I like numbers that can be made into a nice pattern and 71 is one of them:

centered heptagonal

The "5-th centered heptagonal number". If 71 was a bell, when you strike it the notes "5" and "7" ring out in this way. I don't know if any of this means anything but it makes a nice shape.


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04/04/2020 2:03 pm  
Posted by: @behemoth
 
There is some "composite artwork" perhaps somewhat related to that passage and LAM by Gregory Von Seewald.
Posted by: @duck
Very surreal. Not sure what to make of it but it has the fetus there.
 
I mixed up the author/creator of the image as being Gregory Von Seewald. That doesn't seem to be the case.
 
Credit should go to:

The sketch kindly provided byThe-Real-Simon-Ifffurther explores this remarkable element, I greatly appreciated his sharing of this very rare image and most fascinating tie-in (no pun intended.)

(Larger image of the above can be found in the Members's Creations gallery here at Lashtal)

 

Here is the original thread:

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/topic/questions-on-the-amalantrah-working-lam/

 

Behold now Behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.


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04/04/2020 3:12 pm  

The latest bit of nonsense:

 

contains all 3 page 16s merged together in the background.


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04/04/2020 3:44 pm  

Very suggestive of DMT experience, and of the entities, or experiences, that Terrence McKenna called the "machine elves" that often manifest.


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04/04/2020 6:32 pm  

These pics are pretty easy to make once you figure out the settings, very little artistic ability required. 🙂 

DMT is of course one way of explaining "spiritual" experiences and the like, as discussed in a thread recently. We could even say that Crowley's brain was just producing extra DMT during his Lam experiences and that's why he saw one of these "entities".

Never tried the stuff, the closest thing would be "fungal supplements", never enough to reach a "breakthrough" though. This was when I was younger and more enthusiastic, I don't really have the strength for it these days. I'm happy enough just to hear the "trip reports" of others.


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04/04/2020 7:55 pm  
Posted by: @duck

I like numbers that can be made into a nice pattern and 71 is one of them:

centered heptagonal

The "5-th centered heptagonal number". If 71 was a bell, when you strike it the notes "5" and "7" ring out in this way. I don't know if any of this means anything but it makes a nice shape.

heptagon

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05/04/2020 1:10 am  
image
image
image
image

 

 

 

Boys and girls.

Thelema is about balance.

Thelema is about the Tao.

Heavens and Hells together.

Until you figure your own shit out.

Good luck. 

 

 


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05/04/2020 2:34 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

Do you mean, somewhere

I hear you, Mr. Barter. "Here" as "everywhere." And "Space is the Place" (Sun Ra). I'm just trying to not "confound the space-marks," right?


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05/04/2020 11:29 am  
Posted by: @duck

here's an animation made by rotating the initial page a tiny bit each time before "flipping it":

I made a longer animation:

 

The "Lam" I found is of course just a "gimmick", what I'm really interested in is if viewing the manuscript pages can have a subliminal effect when they are presented in a way where the letters are not readable.


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05/04/2020 3:38 pm  
Posted by: @duck

If 71 was a bell, when you strike it the notes "5" and "7" ring out in this way.

Musical cornerstone. Good eye, nice touch or should that be ear? Could also be taken in that manner as pentatonic and heptatonic scales with 5 + 7 revealing the hidden chromatic.


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05/04/2020 5:16 pm  

I see our Comrade Duck has had the delightful pleasure of encountering our departed Comrade S.'. H.'. Fra. Dr. Los PhD 8=3 over at the reddit thelema cross-post of this Lam material.

Isn't he a charmer?

Also, on another issue, amused that anyone might imagine that posting in this thread might be motivated by a desire for the "attention" available from a cross-post to a forum as dead (and dull) as r/thelema, rather than some of us being bored geriatric basket-cases with poor impulse control.


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Posted by: @duck

I made a longer animation:

 

The "Lam" I found is of course just a "gimmick", what I'm really interested in is if viewing the manuscript pages can have a subliminal effect when they are presented in a way where the letters are not readable.

Which brings the subject back to the intent of your original thread. I find these recent moving images are more appealing and have a better subliminal suggestive effect than the original gifs. This one in particular has a quality that suggests a hidden sentience.

Posted by: @duck

These pics are pretty easy to make once you figure out the settings, very little artistic ability required. 🙂 

Artistic ability is more than just technique, it's also vision and follow through.

 


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05/04/2020 6:28 pm  

@ignant666

I don't want to judge him too harshly just yet, I don't know much about him, but he did sound a bit grumpy.

Posted by: @ignant666

bored geriatric basket-cases with poor impulse control

I had to laugh at this, sorry. 😊 

 

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recent moving images are more appealing and have a better subliminal suggestive effect

Yes, I thought this one turned out quite nicely. I'll do a few more of them. My plan is to one day make a program that would do this kind of thing which I could then release so others can use it. My programming skills are pretty limited but we'll see.

If the manuscript does have some subliminal or "spooky" effect, then with this sort of program you would be able to "fly" through the pages and the unconscious mind could be stimulated from different angles.


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05/04/2020 6:39 pm  
Posted by: @duck

I had to laugh at this, sorry.

No apologies needed, in my case, at least.

"I yam what i yam, and that's all what i yam!" said noted Thelemic saint Popeye The Sailor-Man.

Put another way, one is given by the Gods only so many fucks to give in this life. By a certain age, one finds one's fuck-bag, for better or worse, quite depleted. One is thus, past a certain age, literally no longer able to give a fuck.

As you get to know The Phallus Of A Goat better, i doubt that you will find cause to disagree with my characterization of him as a "charmer".


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Posted by: @duck

If the manuscript does have some subliminal or "spooky" effect, then with this sort of program you would be able to "fly" through the pages and the unconscious mind could be stimulated from different angles.

The suggestion to colour sections of text which share commonalities in the same tone, like love or number in their own colour for example, to distinguish them still stands, even if the text is unreadable. That labour may have to be done by hand and based on the artist's vision. If a praeterhuman entity sees the text as ideograms, or even lifeforms, from its place of existence such may be revealed in the artwork.

The breathing effect in the recent gifs does lend to a spooky effect. If there is a way to incorporate breath techniques, like 4-7-8, into the art that may help with bringing the mind and body into focus with the work.


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06/04/2020 3:19 pm  
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07/04/2020 1:59 am  
Posted by: @duck

I made a longer animation:

 

Another animation that gives a wider "zoom" effect:


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21/08/2020 9:30 am  

Probably not worth making a new thread for this so I'll just dump this "fascinating factoid" here in this old thread.

LAM = 71 (lamed 30, alef 1,  mem 40)

The sum of digits of the first 71 semiprimes (numbers that are the product of 2 primes):

4 6 9 10 14 15 21 22 25 26 33 34 35 38 39 46 49 51 55 57 58 62 65 69 74 77 82 85 86 87 91 93 94 95 106 111 115 118 119 121 122 123 129 133 134 141 142 143 145 146 155 158 159 161 166 169 177 178 183 185 187 194 201 202 203 205 206 209 213 214 215

= you guessed it, 666!

(I confirmed this factoid by entering those numbers in manually on Windows' calculator, 4+6+9+1+0+1+4 etc.)

So in this way Lam is connected to the Great Beast who drew him, behind the scenes.


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22/08/2020 12:48 am  
Posted by: @duck

sum of digits

I found an online calculator for this that makes this boring task a lot easier:

https://www.dcode.fr/digits-sum

 

I tried it with a few number sequences, 666 doesn't appear all that often.

 

I found a few the Thelema related numbers with the digits of pi:

sum of first 177 digits = 777

sum of first 158 digits = 718

sum of first 85 digits = 418

666 doesn't show up in pi in this way (either a bit high or a bit low).

 

That site has plenty of cool calculators for gematria-heads.


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23/08/2020 11:09 pm  

71, the value of LAM in Hebrew, is also the value of THOTH in the Angloqabalah (A=1 thru Z=26). Also: "FESTAT" (Mani-FESTAT-Ion); "Nodens"; "Sperm"; "Astral"; "My Name"; "Royal"; "Swell"; and "Temple". 

I've devoted 35 years to the study of Angloqabalistic gematria; and a thorough gematric evaluation of Liber Legis, using this excellent method, has uncovered a stupendous wealth of positively illuminating correspondences. E.g., Ankh-af-na-Khonsu = 144 = Ra-Hoor-Khuit = Shaitan-Aiwass. Of course 144 is 12x12, 12 being the number of lunations of the moon in a year.

Of particular interest, in this analysis of Liber Legis by AQBL, is the fact that a large number of phrases in The Book of the Law turn out palindromic numbers. 

Cool stuff! I find gematria of real value in deriving a more profound understanding of Thelemic doctrine, by meditation on the correspondences obviously; but it is also of great practical use, as I use important values of integral phrases of Liber Legis in practical magic, carving them into wax seals or painting them on magic instruments & talismans of all kinds.


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23/08/2020 11:19 pm  

The gematria for LAM is 71, the same as Liber 71, Crowley's commentary on Blavatsky's "The Voice In The Silence." Imo, this liber is an additional key for understanding ideas about LAM.


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The gematria for LAM is 71, the same as Liber 71, Crowley's commentary on Blavatsky's "The Voice In The Silence." Imo, this liber is an additional key for understanding ideas about LAM.

Yes of course, which is why Crowley set the image of Lam as its frontispiece. According to Kenneth Grant, the image is that of Aiwass -- or at least, that is what Crowley uttered ("Aiwass") when Grant stumbled upon it after Crowley told him to take a piece of artwork for his own. And there is also the ultra-terrestrial connection; but on that I'll keep silence. 😉 

Note that, by AQBL, "Voice of the Silence" = 175 = "word not known"; "The Cult of the Ku"; "The Call of Cthulhu"; & "Universality".


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24/08/2020 12:43 am  
Posted by: @aleisterion

I've devoted 35 years to the study of Angloqabalistic gematria; and a thorough gematric evaluation of Liber Legis, using this excellent method, has uncovered a stupendous wealth of positively illuminating correspondences

Hey, that's really cool. 🙂 I've noticed others have had a lot of success with the A=1...Z=26 method, and I've noticed a couple nice ones with it like "threefold" = 93. My personal qabalistic "fetish" is A=0 though, which gives "nothing" = 80 ("nothing is a secret key..."). Having a "0" involved allows me to mess around with base 26, because why not 🙃 .

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And there is also the ultra-terrestrial connection; but on that I'll keep silence.

Now you've mentioned it, I want to know about it! Can you at least give us some clues without breaking your vows of silence too much?


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24/08/2020 4:46 am  
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And there is also the ultra-terrestrial connection; but on that I'll keep silence.

Now you've mentioned it, I want to know about it! Can you at least give us some clues without breaking your vows of silence too much?

It's really much better if I keep silent on it right now. I can say that it most definitely is not the ludicrous nonsense many believe it to be.


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24/08/2020 6:07 pm  

This is a fun one I noticed while looking at primes and semiprimes and 71:

71st prime = 353, can we find another prime to add so we get 666? Yes, the 65th = 313. Now what happens if we apply this method to the semiprimes?

71st semiprime = 215, 65th = 203. 215 + 203 = 418!

Also notice that 353 + 65 = 418! Some kind of connection between 666 and 418 often shows up.


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24/08/2020 7:38 pm  
Posted by: @duck

This is a fun one I noticed while looking at primes and semiprimes and 71:

71st prime = 353, can we find another prime to add so we get 666? Yes, the 65th = 313. Now what happens if we apply this method to the semiprimes?

71st semiprime = 215, 65th = 203. 215 + 203 = 418!

Also notice that 353 + 65 = 418! Some kind of connection between 666 and 418 often shows up.

353 and 313 are both palindromic numbers. Again, extensive analysis of Liber Legis' key phrases turn out an abundance of palindromic numbers! This is extraordinary, of course, because the Word of the Aeon, Abrahadabra, is a palindrome. 


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24/08/2020 8:03 pm  
Posted by: @aleisterion

... a palindrome.

I had to look that one  ...  a word, phrase, or sequence that reads the same backward as forward, e.g., madam or nurses run.

 
Posted by: @aleisterion

Abrahadabra, is a palindrome. 

But it doesn't match the definition. It does not read the same backwards as forward. You are either mistaken, or I didn't get the full definition (with 3 attempts).

Please explain a bit more, you know, for us simpler folks.

 


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24/08/2020 8:51 pm  
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Posted by: @aleisterion

... a palindrome.

I had to look that one  ...  a word, phrase, or sequence that reads the same backward as forward, e.g., madam or nurses run.

 
Posted by: @aleisterion

Abrahadabra, is a palindrome. 

But it doesn't match the definition. It does not read the same backwards as forward. You are either mistaken, or I didn't get the full definition (with 3 attempts).

Please explain a bit more, you know, for us simpler folks.

 

Strictly speaking, Abrahadabra isn't quite a palindrome, because it fails to read backwards as it does forwards. But it is palindromish -- if I may invent a new word. 😆 The same word appears in the front and back. That makes it similar to a palindromic number.

The word is itself a corruption of an older word, Ablanathalba, which is even more problematic as a palindrome, because the suffix, alba, is a permutation of the prefix, abla. Even so, this is palindromish, if you will.

If I may quote my own as yet unpublished work, Exegesis -- for this particular passage really enlightened me, drawing on the idea of "double-power" in the formula of the twins (Ra-Hoor-Khuit & Hoor-pa-kraat, Strength & Silence, Outermost & Innermost):

"To bridge the gap, to open the way, between mankind and Aiwass, there are two keys: two words of double-power: Abrahadabra is not all. Tap into the current of Aiwaz by the full vibration of this double-power: draw in the words; vibrate them within; cast them out with rageous force. Abra-HAD-Abra! Abla-NUT-Alba!" (Exegesis 3:2)

I've been using these two words together for awhile now, with spectacular effect -- don't ask though, as it's a private matter right now. But I highly recommend the use of these twin words of force & fire, of power & passion.

As I said here at this forum years ago, Blavastky appended the word, Ablanathalba, in her signature on a note written on the eve of Crowley's lesser feast ("In Nomine Ablanathalba: Semes Eilam").

It's also worth noting that, by gematria, the words share a palindromic relationship in their respective values as well! Abrahadabra is 57 ("lux"; "moon"; "appear"; "might"; "rose"; "slay"; "city"); and Ablanathalba is 75 ("zayin"; "menses"; "khamsin"; "genius";).

Adding these two important values, 57 and 75, gives 132, the value of the phrases "for the Kings" & "in the highest", as well as "I am the Master".  


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25/08/2020 3:33 am  
Posted by: @aleisterion

But it is palindromish -- if I may invent a new word.

Sure you can. The correct scientific term would be palindromoid ("resembling a palindrome").

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"I am the Master".

[Wiki quote]: "In The Voice of the Silence, Blavatsky taught that within each individual human there is an eternal, divine facet, which she referred to as "the Master", the "uncreate", the "inner God", and the "higher self". She promoted the idea that uniting with this "higher self" results in wisdom. In that same book, she compared the progress of the human soul to a transition through three halls; the first was that of ignorance, which is the state of the soul before it understands the need to unite with its higher self. The second is the Hall of Learning, in which the individual becomes aware of other facets of human life but is distracted by an interest in psychic powers. The third is the Hall of Wisdom, in which union with the higher self is made; this is then followed by the Vale of Bliss. At this point the human soul can merge into the One."

This is where "The Masters" stuff began in the exoteric west. Later, she "invented "The Masters" (Morya, Koot Hoomi, Djwhal Khul, etc), based on her sponsors and mentors in India (Kashmir, not Tibet as is often claimed).

 


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25/08/2020 6:50 am  

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Obviously, I'm well aware that Blavatsky was fraudulent in more ways than one, and Crowley knew that when he insisted that she was, at the very least, a Magister Templi. Like Edward Kelly, e.g., fools and frauds are sometimes utilized by their own supernal genius -- often without their own conscious knowledge.

I'm not quite sure I like the term "masters" though. Whatever term we go with, however, I do nevertheless favor the idea of discarnate minds being "a thing" and to some extent involved with humanity. It can of course be argued that these are merely aspects or facets of our own being, veiled or otherwise, and from a certain point of view that is likely to be the case; but it could also be that, on some level beyond our own limited perspective, all of us are but facets of one consciousness, and it goes without saying that such a reality, being unlimited, isn't fixed in the "real" sense, i.e. not confined to a particular moment in time or to a particular place, so the "reality" of our own being is on shifty ground. Quantum science makes such shifty ground look more like quicksand.

You know all this, I realize, as do many here. It's the Hoor (Augoeides) = Had (Absolute) = Nu (Infinite) tri-unity; and we're the fragmentary vessels of their manifestation, in a matrix seemingly and stubbornly persistent.

Yes, it could be argued that none of this is real, and that we're in a simulation. And we might posit that the "masters" of that simulation are the source of the sort of prophetic genius behind Crowley and his law of Thelema (and others before and after him) -- more, behind all the utterances of genius which inspire and inform mankind towards heights of greater realization of otherwise occult talent, and sometimes push their evolution in a certain direction. 

Ultimately, of course, as aforesaid, such "superior" paranormal intelligence as that postulated above, is our very own -- at least on some level beyond the limitation of the time and space known to us. There is no proof of that, but it is the notion that leads to statements such as "There is no god but man". And I support that.


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25/08/2020 6:33 pm  
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I'm not quite sure I like the term "masters" though.

So do a lot of others. That's why I posted the clip about HPB's original definition. An inner Master.Not someone "in charge" of somebody else (which I believe is the root cause of people disliking the term, "Master"). (i.e., Slave Owner).

This was the understanding  of the folks from Agape Lodge, and it's what was taught to me ...

"Master of the Temple
means
This Temple"
(speaker points to her own body)

So I and my associates never got caught up in The Masters or the Secret Chiefs, or any other form of hidden authority.

Then, the funniest thing happened. I had departed the Thelemic stream (externally) and entered the "other" White Brotherhood ... where there were "The Masters" built into the Theosophy/Arcane-School derived paradigm. I was trained to channel every one of them (the list is pretty short).

Of course, and is usual, I am (right now, these passing days) writing about all this in Hot Zones (under construction). You might think the funny part is where I changed from having no room for Secret Chiefs, to "believing" in The Masters (who all died, but their essence lives on).

No that was not the funny part. I learned to channel these dudes, each with his own vibration, even while knowing it was ficticious, but going with it because it worked. The most interesting info and explanations arose, and the vibration (frequency, ambience) is exquisite enough to influence a room full of people.

No, the funniest part is where this illusionary interaction ends up producing the strongest practical magic

The praeterfunniest part is about what is really happening. The Masters are dead. Something remains on the causal plane (Tiph-Geb-Ches). It's like a space station where one can go to get info. The type of info varies with the station. None of this is real in a supernal sense. But the causal plane (the abstract or higher mind) - where The Masters left a space station - can be more real than the dense world, so changes can be made.

That's a simplified explanation, which I will copy and polish for the book (under construction). The book covers so much ground, which I have covered previously, that I find it repugnant to offer it for sale so that others might say, "This is the same olde story!" So I have decided to offfer the "same olde story" for free in full-color pdf format. Here. When it is done. The Same Olde Story contains new (much deeper) insights. There will be hard copies for the bibliophiles who get all twisted when they can't hold a hard copy in their hands, but these will not be free.

Anyway, this Mastery stuff is self-mastery. All external considerations must be considered temporary, conditional, and illusionary - if one is to have a sane mind to come back to. It is inconvenient to be forced to work from a mental asylum. So i agree with HPB's original explanation: The Inner Master is the Higher Self.

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I do nevertheless favor the idea of discarnate minds being "a thing" and to some extent involved with humanity.

Yes. I have used the space station metaphor. The (my) key point is to realize where they are located. I say on the causal plane. this explains why different people-vehicles can agree on the (subjectively) objective nature of The Masters, or the gods, or the Angels. The same space stations are available to anyone.

But ... however ... nevertheless ... by the time this info/insight is brought back to terrestrial mentality (the so-called lower mind), all manner of paint and feathers have been added to what people are told, and so we get these bizarre beliefs and glamorous paradigms.

Your post is lengthy, but interesting. I have only barely entered it. But the alarm bell from the physical plane is ringing, so I must exit the causal and go forth to sow illusion, or resolve it, as the case might be.

 


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25/08/2020 8:22 pm  

@aleisterion
@Shiva
You guys Rock !

Illusion is magic magic is illusion

thanks for the royal paint and feathers
in which to master the juggle
through enchantments

get it in all kinda ways
repetition helps
ability


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25/08/2020 8:55 pm  
Posted by: @shiva.

I learned to channel these dudes, each with his own vibration, even while knowing it was ficticious, but going with it because it worked. 

But it works precisely because it is fiction, not despite of it. It's an important distinction, because as you said later, that can be more real than the real world. The common assumption that fiction is in a somewhat "lower" plane than reality is part of the materialist, rationalist, scientificist, positivist, etc, world view, which is the cancer of imagination and part of a psychologization of magic very hyped these days.


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25/08/2020 11:41 pm  
Posted by: @aleisterion

so the "reality" of our own being is on shifty ground.

In the early months, Spring no doubt, of 2005, I parked my 4x4 short off the dirt road at the edge of El Malpais, the original and true "bad land" that the Spanish could not cross, the lava spikes cutting the horses' hooves, and the cracks swallowing them whole. I guess this was my final, self-appointed, self-graded, self-verified, physical test. I wore boots, of course. I'm not crazy.

I walked way out into the black lava field and climbed up on an especially high boulder of rough cinderblock grade. I performed the kata (form), Hangetsu ("Half Moon"), which is considered an "old man's kata." Talk about shifty ground.

Another exercise, probably familiar to anyone who has stood in a moving boat of any size (the smaller, the shiftier), is to go stand in/on a moving boat. Perhaps a Liber should be written describing this practice, and how to transfer the sensation to the center where reality is perceived?

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in a matrix seemingly and stubbornly persistent.

This is why you and I, as God, a long time ago, chose to include certain mushrooms, bushes, fungi, and cacti within the flora of the matrix. The I Ching was right. There is always an escape route. Of course, the escape is only temporary. Unless one is Sirius about this stuff, wherein they decide to make some of this temporary stuff available without poison.

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Yes, it could be argued that none of this is real, and that we're in a simulation. And we might posit that the "masters" of that simulation are the source of the sort of prophetic genius behind Crowley and his law of Thelema (and others before and after him) -- more, behind all the utterances of genius which inspire and inform mankind towards heights of greater realization of otherwise occult talent, and sometimes push their evolution in a certain direction.

Yes, I would argue in that direction ... if I/we were discussing causal plane (abstract) conditions. One could read Symonds' The Great Beast for an Outer Order perspective, suitable even for Probationers and other forms of advanced humanity. Your description is more suited to Inner Order thinking, and it is valid at that level. After all, the mind is still aspiring, and it needs some sort of framework to climb.

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There is no proof of that

Success is your proof. Says so in the scripture AL. If one wants more than that, eating beetle-dung at midnight for 13 full moons will cure it. The "enlightened" (I use the word cautiously, but correctly - "inner light state") perspective would not require proof for a self-evident realization.

But now we're sailing in the great beyond, above the causal plane, which is (after all) based on this linear machine called a mind. While the central focus (I Am) can learn to work with acausal phenomena, and like it, it cannot admit to a higher authority. The so-called Spiritual Path has a way of dealing with that little problem.

 


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26/08/2020 1:07 am  
Posted by: @shiva

It is inconvenient to be forced to work from a mental asylum.

Those four-point restraints are a nuisance, to be sure.


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