Hello,
Recently, I've written an essay on the connections between Thelema and Theravada Buddhism. I thought I'd share it with you.
Here is a short summary:
"Of Harpocrates and Nuit - An Essay on Buddhist Meditation for Thelemites" explores the relationship between Theravada Buddhist meditation and Thelema. The short book attempts to bridge the two traditions and reveals their similarities. It proposes a clear correspondence between the concepts exposed by Thelema in Buddhist terms so that Thelemites can explore the Concentration and Insight Meditation of the Theravada tradition.
You can read it here: Of Harpocrates and Nuit
I hope some of you will find it useful.
Altair
You can read it here: Of Harpocrates and Nuit
This sounds interesting from your summary and I'd like to read it, but the link doesn't work.
Best wishes,
Michael
Buddhist meditation and Thelema
Aside from the fact that this is a display of Mixed Metaphors, (can anyone see the mismatch?), I thoroughly support any work that exhibits the discoveries of parallels. That is, anytime anybody completes the major portion of a new (or empty) column, suitable for embedding in 777, I say, "Good job."
Since I made the spectroscopic analysis of Buddhism a while ago, starting in 1975, I would like to add this simple rendering ...
1. In the beginning, and it the end, there is no difference between Buddhism and Thelema. That is, they both start with a dork that is confused about the duality he or she finds their vehicle embedded in. And both end at Zero, Nirvana, Perfection in Non-attachment.
2. Here is the difference: Most lineages of the Buddha "skip a step." That is, they attempt to attain to Nirvana without the customary (Western) Intermediate Principle - that "entity" we call the HGA, Jung calls the Anima, Hindus call Atma, and all this is rejected by Buddhist because "there is no permanent self
" of any kind to be found." Anyone can go read the Wiki article on Buddhism and find that this is the core difference between East and West.
The solution is quite simple. The Western candidate is told up front, in the traditional hundred ways, that the End of the Path is an Empty Shrine. This, of course, is not believed. However, the gap from 2 to Zero is so great that hardly anybody can jump or fall into the resolution. Quite a few folks can get there on a "touch and go" maneuver (where you get out, but then you come back - very frustrating). So, stepping back with a focused eye, it become apparent that the HGA, the Self, Atma himself, is a temporary construct ...
It is The Stairway to Heave, which is envisioned as a ladder, and isn't funny how each rung, when stepped upon, allows the rung beneath it to drop below the threshold of consciousness as a new (temporary) reality comes into view. And in The End, Jack is unable to get back down the beanstalk, and the has to face the Jolly Green Giant (The Beast himself, the Id), but that's okay because he has already dealt with that illusion. (Did I skip a step? - No)
For those who need the illusionary ladder (or Tree, rope, chain, beanstalk), the Tibetan Buddhists never gave up the intermediary principle. Yeah, its the One - said to not exist.
You can read it here: Of Harpocrates and Nuit
This sounds interesting from your summary and I'd like to read it, but the link doesn't work.
Apologies, all. Post edited to include the link.
For convenience: https://thelightitself.com/Books/Of_Harpocrates_and_Nuit_An_Essay_on_Buddhist_Meditation_for_Thelemites_ALTAIR.pdf
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Hello,
Recently, I've written an essay on the connections between Thelema and Theravada Buddhism. I thought I'd share it with you.
Bit of a difference in that Crowley used Hindustani asanas and intensive prana-yama. Furthermore where is the Skrying, Rising on the Planes in an astral double, Magic Rituals Gematria and razor-discipline? These weren't irrelevant, they were all specific organs in one organism i.e Thelema.
What do you make of Chapter 3 of AL and what it has to say about Buddhism? Is this akin to Zen-like blasphemy?
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None of those
Hindustani asanas
in Buddhism, no-sirree no.
And no true Buddhist would be caught dead doing breath-control meditation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anapanasati
where is the Skrying, Rising on the Planes in an astral double, Magic Rituals Gematria and razor-discipline?
Oh? Those! ... they are the tools of the intermediate principle (IP) I mentioned, above. The IP is the HGA, Soul, Ego, Anima. The Buddhists (Buds) reject this notion. Buds came in around 500 BEV, which is the same zone as Ankh in Khem. They are both "old Aeon stuff". Buds lived on 'til today, where the simplicity of the original basic teachings has been obscured by dogma, welfare fraternalism, and endless sutras, comments, comments upon the comments ... eek.
We know how the legacy of Khem crept into the Aeon of Osiris ... Cagliostro [sic?] (AC in a prior appearance) introduced "Egyptian Freemasonry," laying the ground stone for other clandestine brethren to break away from the yoke of Hiram Abiff ... leading to outrageous manifestations such as the G.D. and the O.T.O., with HPB spreading the glad word to the masses. So Perdurabo stepped in, in real-time, this time, and changed this whole conglomerate into the new Aeon, the endurance of which is presently under question by adherents of Maat, of which I am one, but it's still on an abstract plane. I look around and see a bigger Horus on the horizon ("Horus-zone").
That being said, the basic principles of the Buds system are terribly valid, especially in daily life. The two systems (Bud & Thelema) are the great duality of our time (conquer vs compassion). The third alternative (a "conquer" version), found mostly in Arab countries, is akin to Thelema, but it's still "old Aeon," 6th ray (devotional), outdated stuff. Too bad it's the biggest religion on the sphere of Malkuth, and growing.
"One has to reject all the other paths in order to find one's own path." - U.G.
Hindustani asanas
in Buddhism, no-sirree no.
And no true Buddhist would be caught dead doing breath-control meditation:
As someone who is not familiar with Liber E or Liber O you wouldn’t know that Thelemic alternate nostril breathing isn't those Buddhist techniques. As for sitting cross-legged and/or zazen-kneeling well, y'know fair enough they're tricky but Crowley recommended trying several or more hard-core positions. Maybe read some of the literature sometime and maybe address the other things I said.
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Oh? Those! ... they are the tools of the intermediate principle (IP) I mentioned, above. The IP is the HGA, Soul, Ego, Anima. The Buddhists (Buds) reject this notion.
To keep the biological metaphor going, don't you think that Buddhism is the skeleton of Thelema and the skryiing and Cabbala rituals etc are the organs?. Thing is, a skeleton is dead.
Monks? Monks are Old Aeon hermits, right?
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Maybe read some of the literature sometime and maybe address the other things I said.
I have "read some of the literature"; you, as so often, show very little sign that you have, or that you have any idea at all of what you are talking about.
For example, Liber O does not mention or discuss "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing".
Those who have in fact "read some of the literature" before running our mouths know that this Hindu yoga practice (that is briefly discussed in Liber E) is known as "surya bhedana" (sun-piercing breath), and know that it is also known in Tibetan Buddhism as rlung ro dgu shrugs ("Ninefold Expulsion of Stale Vital Energy").
If you know of "more hard-core positions" than the full-lotus position that Buddha is conventionally depicted sitting in, please tell us about them.
I think Shiva has adequately disposed of "the other things [you] said".
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For example, Liber O does not mention or discuss "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing".
Those who have in fact "read some of the literature" before running our mouths know that this Hindu yoga practice (that is briefly discussed in Liber E) is known as "surya bhedana" (sun-piercing breath), and know that it is also known in Tibetan Buddhism as rlung ro dgu shrugs ("Ninefold Expulsion of Stale Vital Energy").
So you should know that Tibetan Buddhism is it's own maverick thing, right? Was the OP discussing that?
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Was the OP discussing that?
A rather feeble attempt at a comeback, david, after i demonstrate that you, yet again, have literally no idea what you are talking about.
Shouldn't you be quoting the section of Liber O about "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing"?
Thelemic alternate nostril breathing
How does "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing" differ from "alternate nostril breathing"?
In the early 1980s I practiced hatha yoga fairly intensively, using half a dozen asanas in the so-called Rishikesh Cycle, and following it up with pranayama. The main pranayama pattern I used was called anuloma viloma, alternate nostril breathing with retention following both the inbreath and the outbreath. I learnt this from a book by a Belgian yoga teacher, Andre van Lysebeth. He was teaching a pattern that, I have no doubt, existed long before Crowley was a twinkle in the milkman's eye.
That being said, the basic principles of the Bud[dhist]'s system are terribly valid, especially in daily life.
However: "With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din."(AL III:53)
The two systems (Bud & Thelema) are the great duality of our time (conquer vs compassion).
Although conquest and compassion are not opposites or mutually exclusive, and similar to Buddhism and Thelema are not really a true duality either and certainly not a great one.
One might as well say (but more correctly and inclusively) crapulous creeds v. Thelema "are the great duality of our time" instead.
<Bahlasti! Ompehda!>,
NormaN Joy Conquest
A rather feeble attempt at a comeback, david, after i demonstrate that you, yet again, have literally no idea what you are talking about.
Shouldn't you be quoting the section of Liber O about "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing"?
If you can show me that Buddhism (not Tibetan ) has ever advocated alternate nostril- closing/opening pranayama then ok I learned something. Over to you.
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Thing is, a skeleton is dead.
Not while the vehicle is still living. It has a blood supply, is active in the immune system, and has a reasonable flexibility (before the age of osteoporosis).
don't you think that Buddhism is the skeleton of Thelema ...?
No, thank you.
Liber O does not mention or discuss "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing".
Bit the Inner Teacher document does. "Alternate nostilizing" is not "Thelemic." It is standard old-school pranayama.
Tibetan Buddhism is it's own maverick thing, right?
Hardly a "maverick," although traditional Buds will reject it because it has [gasp] rituals and horns, not to mention drums and hats ... which come from Bon, the incumbent shamanistic religion of Tibet that goes back more Aeons than we usually count. Buddhism moved in, but the people knew, so they kept the old and accepted the new.
How does "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing" differ from "alternate nostril breathing"?
It has the word "Thelemic" prefixed to the term. There has been no attempt to [TM] the new term that I know of ... yet.
However: "With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din."(AL III:53)
Uh-huh. I am not a Bud-guy. The first principle is that Existence is Sorrow. Although AL says otherwise, and of course there are moments or months of joy, existence pretty much is in the Shinola.
RHK is merely emphasizing what U.D. said - "To find your path, you must reject all the others." RHK does it then, name by name, with vicious epithts for each. He is merely expressing war-lust, a first-circuit, survival mechanism to use in life-or-death combat.
The second precept is that Sorrow is caused by Desire. Now we get, right away pretty quick, to the application in daily life ... without ever even having taken the Oath of a Bodhisattva (what a joke - to lift the sorrow).
And since that has come up, remember when AC wrote that "members of the A.'.A.'. are sworn to reincarnate immediately ..." ? I think (oh, no) that I have seen any or all official A.'.A.'. Oaths, and all the other do-dads, but nowhere else (than this single reference in Without Tears) does this odd, Bodhisattva-like concept appear.
Although conquest and compassion are not opposites or mutually exclusive, and similar to Buddhism and Thelema are not really a true duality either and certainly not a great one.
Your opinion has been entered into The Akashic Record.
If you can show me that Buddhism (not Tibetan ) has ever advocated alternate nostril- closing/opening pranayama then ok I learned something. Over to you.
Why would he need to? You used the term "Themic alternate nostril breathing", when what you perhaps mean is "alternate nostril breathing that was recommended by Crowley, but not invented by him". It's like referring to "Thelemic Samadhi" or "Thelemic Dhyana".
How does "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing" differ from "alternate nostril breathing"?
You're right, if I'm staying at a friend's place and we go shopping and I buy a tin of spaghetti from ALDI and one from ASDA and take them back, I'm not going to necessarily say hey let's have the ALDI spaghetti? However, if my friend says, hey how much was that ASDA spaghetti, show me the receipt, I'm not going to hand them the ALDI receipt am I? Maybe I got a right to differentiate and label things sometimes.
Furthermore , if we use the biological analogy where each organism's system (e.g. Thelema) consists of interconnected organs then in that case I can say 'Thelemic pranayama' and everyone would know what I was talking about.........well, nearly everyone.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Hello,
Recently, I've written an essay on the connections between Thelema and Theravada Buddhism. I thought I'd share it with you.
Here is a short summary:
"Of Harpocrates and Nuit - An Essay on Buddhist Meditation for Thelemites" explores the relationship between Theravada Buddhist meditation and Thelema. The short book attempts to bridge the two traditions and reveals their similarities. It proposes a clear correspondence between the concepts exposed by Thelema in Buddhist terms so that Thelemites can explore the Concentration and Insight Meditation of the Theravada tradition.
You can read it here: Of Harpocrates and Nuit
I hope some of you will find it useful.
Altair
Dear Altair,
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I am very much enjoying reading your fine essay! I believe it to be an important contribution, in a technical discussion whose overview provides an expanded lattice of understanding about meditation...where is found, yes "Of Harpocrates and Nuit" !
Thank you for making the post available here, and for discussion...
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HG
Furthermore , if we use the biological analogy where each organism's system (e.g. Thelema) consists of interconnected organs then in that case I can say 'Thelemic pranayama' and everyone would know what I was talking about.........well, nearly everyone.
You're twisting and turning, david, like a twisty turny thing.
Once again, how does "Thelemic pranayama" differ from common-or-garden pranayama? Clearly there is a difference, because otherwise why call it "Thelemic pranayama"?
It's like referring to "Thelemic Samadhi" or "Thelemic Dhyana".
Or Hindustani Will.
You're right, if I'm staying at a friend's place and we go shopping and I buy a tin of spaghetti from ALDI and one from ASDA and take them back, I'm not going to necessarily say hey let's have the ALDI spaghetti? However, if my friend says, hey how much was that ASDA spaghetti, show me the receipt, I'm not going to hand them the ALDI receipt am I? Maybe I got a right to differentiate and label things sometimes.
This is an exceedingly long-winded cover-up for errors in mislabeling. Do you offer this sort of logical metaphorism to other people in your daily life ?
in that case I can say 'Thelemic pranayama'
Of course you can. Do what you want is the whole deal.
and everyone would know what I was talking about.........well, nearly everyone.
Not me. Not nearly.
You're twisting and turning, david, like a twisty turny thing.
This is Ra-day. David has a recurring function wherein he gets embroiled in spider webs and bear traps ... on weekends. Then people laugh or snort and accuse him of taking strange drugs.
Since this is a recurring pattern, offered multiple times in the past, usually with the same result, I draw attention to it so that all parties concerned can assess whether they are tracking the Tao, or in severe trouble.
You're twisting and turning, david, like a twisty turny thing.
Once again, how does "Thelemic pranayama" differ from common-or-garden pranayama? Clearly there is a difference, because otherwise why call it "Thelemic pranayama"?
In and of itself there is no difference between what I called 'Thelemic pranayama' and the pranayama demonstrated in the text books or teachings which AC presumably borrowed from.
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[T]here is no difference between what I called 'Thelemic pranayama' and the pranayama demonstrated in the text books or teachings which AC [....] borrowed from.
Only 16 posts by four people to get this concession to the blindingly obvious out of david. Almost as if someone is arguing in bad faith, not that anyone here would ever commit such a solecism.
In and of itself
This clause is italicized, presumably for emphasis.
What then is the difference not "in and of itself" between these two things (that you have just conceded are in fact identical)?
presumably
Are you trying to claim that the breath exercises that AC himself refers to as "pranayama", and himself refers to as a part of yoga are not in fact yogic pranayama, but are actually a new and original invention by AC?
If you are not making this obviously absurd and indefensible claim, what is the word "presumably" doing in the middle of this sentence?
Are you trying to claim that the breath exercises that AC himself refers to as "pranayama", and himself refers to as a part of yoga are not in fact yogic pranayama, but are actually a new and original invention by AC?
That's a no and a 'How would you even think that from what I wrote?'
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That's a no and a 'How would you even think that from what I wrote?'
Did you read the sentence after the one you are replying to? In case you missed it, here it is again:
If you are not making this obviously absurd and indefensible claim, what is the word "presumably" doing in the middle of this sentence?
The sentence being:
In and of itself there is no difference between what I called 'Thelemic pranayama' and the pranayama demonstrated in the text books or teachings which AC presumably borrowed from. [emphasis added]
Since you now seem to admit that AC's pranayama is yogic, why not just say "the text books or teachings which AC borrowed from"?
Only 16 posts by four people ...
I think, at this point, you are supposed to lay out a colossal paradigm based on the numbers 4 and 16, which are obviously squared or cubed.
How would you even think that from what I wrote?
Um, you wrote "Thelemic" before the term. Such prepositions usually indicate a specific style.
It may take you several lifetimes, now, to resolve all this fuss - caused by a simple misuse of The Word of the Law in adverbial format.
All this fuss yes.
Fuss off! That is, fuss is over with. Now, back to the OP I guess.
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Since you now seem to admit that AC's pranayama is yogic, why not just say "the text books or teachings which AC borrowed from"?
I forget if he put his own unique slant on those methods. For example, the counting whilst holding the nostrils, did he devise it of his own ingenium or is that an actual ancient method? I don't know. I presume it's ancient.
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For example, the counting whilst holding the nostrils, did he devise it of his own ingenium or is that an actual ancient method?
He may have got it from Allan Bennett while in teacher mode. Where A.B. may have got it from is turtles.
Fuss off! That is, fuss is over with. Now, back to the OP I guess.
Less than a half hour later:
I forget if he [blah blah chitter chatter]
One-pointedness of intentionality is somewhat lacking here - presumably, of course...
Chit chattering away to yer back,
Mercurially yours
NormaN Joy Conquest
A couple quotes (one from a book david has read hundreds of times) to finally dispose of these claims that there is a distinctive form of pranayama called "Thelemic alternate nostril breathing", or that the alternate-nostril breathing exercise briefly described in Liber E represents all, or even most, of AC's pranyama technique, and/or that there is some possibility that AC originated the methods of pranyama he taught:
Pranayama means control of force. [....] One of these is not to be communicated to the public in a rotten country like this; the other is the well-known 'control of breath.'
This simply means that you get a stop watch, and choose a cycle of breathing out and breathing in. Both operations should be made as complete as possible. The muscular system must be taxed to its utmost to assist the expansion and contraction of the lungs. [....]
There are other practices. For instance, one can make the breathing as quick and shallow as possible. Any good practice is likely to produce its own phenomena, but in accordance with the general thesis of these lectures I think it will be obvious that the proper practice will aim at holding the breath for as long a period as possible-because that condition will represent as close an approximation to complete stillness of the physiological apparatus as may be. [....] In other words, by Asana and Pranayama you have worked yourself into a position where you are free, if only for a few seconds, to attempt actual Yoga processes, which you have previously been prevented from attempting by the distracting activities of the respiratory and muscular systems. [Eight Lectures on Yoga, Fourth Lecture: Asana and Pranyama]
In Ceylon he found Frater I.A. (Allan Bennett), with whom he went to Kandy [(in Sri Lanka/Ceylon)....]
I.A. had himself been developing on similar lines under P. Ramanathan, the Solicitor-General of Ceylon, known to occultists under the name of Shri Parananda. [....] [H]e was to practice Pranayama, or control of the breathing, which has a similar effect in reducing to the lowest possible point the internal movements of the body. [....
While in Pranayama he passed through the first stage, which is marked by profuse perspiration of a peculiar kind; the second, which is accompanied by rigidity of the body ; and the third, in which the body unconsciously hops about the floor, without in any way disturbing the Asana. [The Equinox of the Gods, ch. 3]
I am curious how many have experienced this third stage of "Buchari-siddhi: 'the power of jumping about like a frog' would be a rough translation of this fascinating word. This is a very extraordinary phenomenon. You are sitting tied up on the floor, and you begin to be wafted here and there, much as dead leaves are moved by a little breeze" [Eight Lectures], or the fourth stage of levitation?
As to levitation, our old pal AC the scientific illuminist continues "I do not know about this at all. I never saw it happen." But then AC the Prophet continues further: "[O]n three occasions at least comparatively reliable people have said that they saw it happening to me," but then disingenuously says "I do not think it proves anything."
I will start the ball rolling and say that i never experienced any of this, or saw anyone else hopping or levitating, despite my extensive teenage yoga training at the headquarters of the Integral Yoga Institute. Probably Swami Satchitananda and/or his advanced disciples did it all the time when i wasn't looking.
I will start the ball rolling and say that i never experienced any of this, or saw anyone else hopping or levitating, despite my extensive teenage yoga training at the headquarters of the Integral Yoga Institute. Probably Swami Satchitananda and/or his advanced disciples did it all the time when i wasn't looking.
Would your Circuit 6 "tripping" gear be in full effect at that point?
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Would your Circuit 6 "tripping" gear be in full effect at that point?
How do you mean, david? Do you mean "gear" here as in automobile, or costume outfit - or what? I not understandee...
N Joy
How do you mean, david? Do you mean "gear" here as in automobile, or costume outfit - or what? I not understandee...
N Joy
Leary. Go read. End.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Leary. Go read. End.
This is a most singular telegrammatic style you have adopted here, david. What am I (we) supposed to make of it - can you have suffered some traumatic brain injury since last you posted? Or can it be (shock gasp) that I have somehow earned your terse disdain for some reason? I'm not sure I will easily be able to go to sleep tonight...
Your curt response of "Go read Leary" does in no way answer my question, dunderhead (=he added, affectionately). Of course I am familiar with the connection between Tim and the 6th circuit (well, all of them - naturellement). But what I was in fact trying to find out was what you meant by using the word "gear" in connection with your "your Circuit 6 'tripping' gear", in the hope it might have thrown some additional light on why you thought this was relevant vis-a-vis ignant's original query regarding experiences regarding meditators' hopping/ levitating... were you in fact inferring that he - or they - might have been hallucinating the whole experience, for instance?
I am steering clear of answering this sub-topic of personal experiences myself, certainly for the time being, as I have the impression that even the slightest attempt to respond in the affirmative would invite the whole gamut of a heap of unwelcome time consuming further interrogation not to mention probable ridicule from some relating to hallucinations (as shown by david for example). However I am going through Altair's aesthetically tasteful & nicely presented linked essay with a fine toothpick and a thumb up so far, and may reply to some of the points there in (therein in?) due course.
N Joy
This is a most singular telegrammatic style you have adopted here, david. What am I (we) supposed to make of it - can you have suffered some traumatic brain injury since last you posted? Or can it be (shock gasp) that I have somehow earned your terse disdain for some reason? I'm not sure I will easily be able to go to sleep tonight...
The demon Barter appears to be paranoid.
Your curt response of "Go read Leary" does in no way answer my question, dunderhead (=he added, affectionately). Of course I am familiar with the connection between Tim and the 6th circuit (well, all of them - naturellement). But what I was in fact trying to find out was what you meant by using the word "gear" in connection with your "your Circuit 6 'tripping' gear", in the hope it might have thrown some additional light on why you thought this was relevant
They use the term "gears" to describe how the circuits work. Looks like you didn't know that.
... were you in fact inferring that he - or they - might have been hallucinating the whole experience, for instance?
If one is alone then yeah I am inferring that Circuit 6 may kick in and be giving us the impression that we are behaving like an astronaut in an anti-gravity chamber. AC claiming he saw Bennett flying around the room? I doubt it. Sounds like another prank.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
This is a most singular telegrammatic style you have adopted here, david. What am I (we) supposed to make of it - can you have suffered some traumatic brain injury since last you posted?
WRWB has also suffered tranformation, possibly by hooking himself up to an AI Borg socket. It's the collapsing terrestrial magnetic field, you know? When the increased (way up there) solar radiation hits the planet, a lot of uppy vibes get in and humanity gets an instant (drawn out over time to avoid <excessive deaths) initiation. As this goes on, some people undergo distinct persona modifications. Unfortunately, the modifications are usually caused by repressed character disorders coming to the surface, and so ... other folks think they are crazy. Thank you for asking.
The demon Barter appears to be paranoid.
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If one is alone then yeah I am inferring that Circuit 6 may kick in and be giving us the impression that we are behaving like an astronaut in an anti-gravity chamber.
This is exactly what some people are reporting, including myself. It is the collapsing geomagnetic field (a not-often discussed scientific fact) combined with extracurricular solar flux (an easily-confirmed fact).
AC claiming he saw Bennett flying around the room? I doubt it. Sounds like another prank.
I introduce, as Exhibit AK, a rather diminutive example of how such things might happen ...
- Inside Solar Lodge ...
No levitating, no frog-hopping, but no doubts, please.
The demon Barter appears to be paranoid.
Having seen it not so long ago, I misread and thought you'd written "the demon Barber" (of Fleet Street) there for some reason! (It might have made more sense if you had than your actual answer!).
Yes, if you want: anything you say david - I am paranoid over the fact that you might have suffered some traumatic brain damage since last posting. (Well Hey now! That actually seems to be coming true! But I digress..)
They use the term "gears" to describe how the circuits work. Looks like you didn't know that.
Yeah I guess you got me bang to rights there, david. Gosh darnit, I feel thoroughly ashamed at not knowing as much as you do and must go and self-flagellate. The fact that I may have forgotten doesn't enter into your hideous abortion of an eventual explanation to my enquiry, of course...
giving us the impression that we are behaving like an astronaut in an anti-gravity chamber.
I'm not sure that was quite the original intention, but either way let's let that go for the moment as I feel I am rapidly losing not only interest in the discussion but the will to live as well & must go off in search of some light libation, or perhaps I mean to say heavy.
No Jy
Yeah I guess you got me bang to rights there, david.
I am an authority on the circuits. I never heard of "gears." So don't feel alone in your ignorance.
Note: By "authority," authorship of a chapter in a couple or three books is implied.
Something happens to david every second, third, or fourth Sunday. The exact cycle is unclear without actual bookkeeping data. He has been accused of taking strange articles. The outward signs include lots of posts with bizarre statements creating confusion among other posters.
This is one of those Sundays.
I introduce, as Exhibit AK, a rather diminutive example of how such things might happen ...
"On the evening of the twenty-ninth day my meditation held a surprise. Upon inhaling and holding my breath during the pranayama “Master Breath,“ a flash of lightning hit me right between my eyebrows and threw me across the room.
Siddhi or not siddhi, that is the question.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Siddhi or not siddhi, that is the question.
The answer is obvious ... an off-centered "frog hop," caused by internal lightning flash - not by any controlled magical power. The only evidence, in my mind and Record, that I was "moved" was that my legs were still crossed (and locked) and that I was in a tilted position with one (the right) knee up in the air, and my left shoulder leaning against the wall (thus preventing me from coming to on me dide, on the floor.
I* see we are going to have to introduce constant video-taping or digitizing of all work, so that siddhis or accidents can be properly recorded for future assessment ... or not. Let's go with not, and just say that something antigravitational, or a sideways-gravitation tip-over force, gave me a nudge.
Sorrow is caused by Desire.
Though I think some people get a little confused with the commonly accepted idea of "desire", which can be positive or negative, and the wholly negative definition of tanha, which implies that the "desire" has mastered the individual.
fourth stage of levitation?
Not counting stories of Joseph of Cupertino or Martin de Porres. 😉
Or can it be (shock gasp) that I have somehow earned your terse disdain for some reason?
Maybe you, Iggy, and I can form a club?
"frog hop,"
I've never experienced anything like that. The closest I've come was some kind of myoclonic incident that jerked me a few inches off of the floor, but only once and I was still subject to gravity.