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Shiva
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Galaxy-wide Broadcast

to all recipients of any persuasion

 

I'm just finishing up a little booklet that continues the adventures of The Terrestrial Avatar (who was instructed (back in Book I) to infiltrate The Black Lodge in order to set things right.

I suppose some of you will think that this is a metaphysical sci-fi adventure novel. Sure. I always make things up that have no relation to real reality. This is a cover story that exposes things we are reading about in the news on a daily basis.

<haha> It is not political

Anyway, I extracted the Situation Report, which is given verbally (with pictures) to the band of funny fellows by the protagonist - who has just returned from the Galactic Center (a black holy place). It summarizes the entire previous text [Avatar II], states the problem, and authorizes a solution - which we can read about daily, if we follow Space Weather and the Schumann show.

Here. It's less than 20 pages. Crowley appears in it. Here. Take it ...

https://mega.nz/file/0dBUjBQY#Kc9O36ypHE8zkS1p_mBdIb-qnDf_jCdF7o9I_JER4Ag

 

 

 

I am Not A Rajah or a voyeur
I Am Shiva the Destroyer
I destroy illusion
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toadstoolwe
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I tried logging in about four times.  Big waste of time, and I never did get the article.  What are the salient points that mention Crowley?


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

I tried logging in about four times.  Big waste of time, and I never did get the article.

I clicked on the link a couple of minutes ago. No need to log in. I downloaded the pdf easily enough.

 

 


   
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toadstoolwe
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@michael-staley When at first you don't succeed, try, try again.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

When at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

 

So did it work this time?

 


   
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toadstoolwe
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@michael-staley I haven't tried yet.


   
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Yep!  I got it, thanks!


   
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You have opened up a celestial can of worms.  Each worm will have to be separated, studied, and put back in the can for later use.  I started with dark energy with which my simple Homo Sapien brain almost exploded. Now I have too again tackle Liber 333 and Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger. 


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

You have opened up a celestial can of worms.

The can has been open since the beginning of worms.

Didn't I recently mention a Diet of Worms?

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

... and put back in the can for later use. 

Um. The Time is Now. It's happening to you, your brain, and your diet.

I would recommend that you eat the worms, get to the bottom line and apply it, then forget the whole thing ... as you will be quite busy with more pressing matters.


   
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@shiva Very cute play on words.  The Diet of Worms, or  Reichstag zu Worms was a council in the Holy Roman Empire.  Worms is the name of a  city. As I am sure you already know.  The creepy-crawly worms in German is:  Wumer with an Umlaut over the u. Worms are great for fishing.  Dark Energy isn't.


   
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ignant666
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A favorite song of my late mother's about a Diet of Worms:

Nobody loves me,
Everybody hates me,
I'm gonna go out and eat worms.
Big ones, fat ones,
Tiny little wiggly ones,
Watch them wriggle and squirm.

Bite their heads off,
Suck their guts out,
Throw their skins away!
No one knows how man can live on
Worms three times a day!

Other versions of this song are common on the internets, but this is how mom sang it.

   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

The Diet of Worms, or  Reichstag zu Worms was a council in the Holy Roman Empire.

Yeah, yeah. We know about that - It was convened in order to give a name (excuse) for eating worms.

Now - the point is ...


   
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@shiva I'm on the edge of my seat!  What IS the point?  Pray, tell me!


   
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Posted by: @ignant666

my late mother's about a Diet of Worms

This was played, sort-of regularly (not in the top ten) on the radio, back when Aiwass a kid, which could have been '50s or early 60s.

It could have been playing in the 40s, or earlier, but I wouldn't know as I have no radio reception perception of that dark age, except for ...

We huddled around the radio late one night in '48, listening to the results come in over the Truman-Dewey contest for president.

Aha!  Toad Stool (we) on call. Can you discern when this song about worms was written? I mean, it's not about Crowley, but you brought up a "can of worms" in review of my Situation report.

While you're verifying that obscure date (this is a test, you know), I will return the thread to the Crowley realm ...

In the text, sometimes hidden in an image, the number "418" appears, and BafometR is seenh to utter a one-line guest appearance. The rest of the document is devoted to a sci-fi fantasy adventure laid over the internal journey as a cover story. 

If you read this short summary of the bigger book, and apply it to your inner being, you will have arrived back home. But then, leaving your source-void and coming back to Terra, you will still be faced with The Collapse of Civilization (as predicted by Crowley), which is no longer impending.

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

What IS the point?  Pray, tell me!

Caught you in a cliff-hanger, did I? Well, I just made several points, starting in the paragraph above your quote, and then reading backwards.

 


   
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@shiva "Nobody likes me, Everybody Hates me, (I think i'll go Eat Worms) was written in 1863.  It was based on an article that appeared in The New York Daily Times, September 3, 1863, entitled:  Feeding soldiers on worms.  In the Civil War, soldiers ate canned meat and hardtack, which usually had maggots and grub worms in the rations.  As usual, soldiers made light of it, and A SONG WAS BORN.


   
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ignant666
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@toadstoolwe - A fascinating story.

However, i can find no trace of any evidence that it is in fact true- could you provide a source or citation here?

One potential problem is that there was no longer a newspaper called The New York Daily Times in 1863, the name having changed to The New-York Times in 1857, according to wikipedia. Actually, there never was a newspaper called The New York Daily Times- it was The New-York Daily Times, the hyphen having been later dropped in 1896.

Another issue is that the listing of "All New York Times stories published in September 1863" does not include any article with the title "Feeding soldiers on worms" on the page of all stories from September 3, 1863. Nor does it include any article about soldiers' food more generally.

Nor am i able to find this article in The New-York Times for September 3, 1863, all 8 pages of which are archived here.

Word searches reveal only one use of the word "worms" to refer to terrestrial invertebrates of the phylum Annelida in September and October of 1863, on September 12, in an editorial denouncing Lincoln, and referring to "Northern Democrats" as "the veriest worms" if they did not rebel against him. The other 6 uses of "worms" during that two-month period are in ads for copper worms using in eg distilling.

Of course, the scanning is by no means perfect, and perhaps the article you mention was published on some other day and the scanner missed all the mentions of worms in the article- one figures the word would have to some up a few times in even a brief article.


   
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Sure, I got it from a website called: History's Newstand Blog, Timothy Hughes Rare & Early newspapers.  The newspaper was NOT called the New York Daily Times, it was The New York Daily Tribune, a completely different newspaper published by the famous Horace Greeley.  "Go West Young Man"  I am afraid you started your research with the wrong reference citation.  The original newspaper article is included.  Curses! foiled again!


   
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ignant666
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

I am afraid you started your research with the wrong reference citation.

Silly me- i relied on the "reference citation" you provided:

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

It was based on an article that appeared in The New York Daily Times, September 3, 1863, entitled:  Feeding soldiers on worms.

However, there is another small problem- your source* does not at all support your claim. Even a little bit.

It does not say or claim that the childrens' song has anything at all to do with the 1863 article from The New-York Daily Tribune (note the hyphen, which you again omit**: "New-York" was nearly always hyphenated until the very late 19th century), but merely uses the article as an example that, once upon a time, someone, somewhere, actually ate worms, just like in the song.

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* Why on earth do you not provide a link to your source? Why make me google it? Is that what they taught you in library school? I think not.

** Again, is that what they taught you in library school, misquoting the names of cited publications? Again, i doubt it.


   
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toadstoolwe
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@ignant666 Don't take my word for it, look up the blog which I already cited.  Anyway, it's The New York Daily Tribune.  The word "Times" not appear in it at all.  If I referred to it as "Times" I was mistaken, but if you read on, I corrected my error.  By the way, are you too lazy to google? Or do I have to spoon-feed you information?


   
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ignant666
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@toadstoolwe - I linked to "the blog which [you] already cited"- obviously i have looked it up.

And obviously i don't consider you a very reliable source, and am not inclined to "take your word for it" when you make claims that sound fishy- that's why i checked your claim.

And the problem is that your source doesn't say what you said it does. It doesn't say the song has anything at all to do with the article.

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

If I referred to it as "Times" I was mistaken

Yes, you were.

And the "if" is a bit rich, coming from a person who claims to have a grad degree in library science- it is pretty darn easy to verify that yes, you did indeed refer to your source as The New York Daily Times [sic], since i quoted you doing so, in the post you were replying to, or you could just scroll up to your post from earlier this morning, or click on the arrow in the upper-right corner of the quoted matter.

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

but if you read on, I corrected my error. 

Yes, you did, after i pointed it out to you.

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

are you too lazy to google?

Clearly not, since i found both the sources you cited.

However, when you are asked to provide information, it is courteous to provide a link to your source, since it is so very easy to do. This is not "spoon-feeding", this is politeness, and correct scholarly practice.

You might want to review the site guidelines, where you would learn that

Submissions must not contain false or misleading information. If a member is unsure of his sources, he or she should say so. [emphasis added]

Though perhaps this wouldn't apply when you seem to still think that your source supports your claim, even after i have pointed out that it does not. You are sure of your source, but are just entirely wrong about what your source says.

Once more: The source you cite does not say the children's song has anything at all to do with the 1863 article, and definitely does not say that the song "was based on" that article, as you claim above.

 


   
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@ignant666 And this is important because......?  I take it no one invited you to a Thanksgiving Dinner.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

this is important because......? 

It is important because, here at the Aleister Crowley Society, we are not in the habit of talking out the side of our neck.

In fact, we aren't allowed to post "false or misleading information", as you have done several times this morning. And of course i am not the one who started this discussion up- you were the one who claimed to know the answer to Shiva's question, when you actually didn't.

And when you were called on it, you ignored the First Law of Holes, and kept digging.

You are correct that "no one invited [me] to a Thanksgiving Dinner". This is because all the living members of my family will be coming to my house today, and i will be cooking for them, as i do every year.

Since i am doing just a turkey breast this year, and not a whole stuffed turkey, i am not yet busy cooking this morning, and thus have time to fact-check, and cite-check, your dubious-sounding claims.

Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans, and happy belated Thanksgiving to all the Canadians. And best wishes to all you benighted non-Thanksgiving-celebrating foreigners too, of course.


   
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@ignant666 Have a great Thanksgiving to you and yours!   I was not knowingly disseminating "false information" I simply made reference to a blog I read, Also I was simply complying with Shiva's request made to me.to look it up.  I didn't bring up, Shiva did.  Not that really matters.  I did my duty as a Probationer.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

1863

Whoa!  An oldie but goodie gooey.

Posted by: @ignant666

- could you provide a source or citation here?

Aha!  Now we get to the "proof" stage.

Posted by: @ignant666

Silly me- i relied on the "reference citation" you provided:

This will teach you, once and for eternity: Never trust another person. Sure, sometimes they hold up, but sooner-or-later a trusting person is going to get pitted (thrown in the pit) - pity not the thrown.

Posted by: @ignant666

Why make me google it?

Although LAShTAL is not a teaching site, Mr Stool has decided to teach you the ropes by having you do the work. It's an old trich used by greasy gurus and slippery swamis.

The question remains, Are the ropes slippery, too?

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

Or do I have to spoon-feed you information?

Around here, When anybody make a "statement of fact," they may be asked to provide proof. Citing a blog, an article, a book, or an angel is not enough.

When aked for "proof" (source, link, quote - that sort of thing), it is considered really bad form to say, "Are you stupid? Go look it up!"

As with all things soever
Statements made anew
require a reputable cover
and it all falls on you
... to deliver

Posted by: @ignant666

And obviously i don't consider you a very reliable source, and am not inclined to "take your word for it" when you make claims that sound fishy- that's why i checked your claim.

Toad ... I told you this was a test.

Posted by: @ignant666

However, when you are asked to provide information, it is courteous to provide a link to your source, since it is so very easy to do.

Really - this is so altruistic. Lazy people everywhere should be forced (foresaid) to look up their own links..

Posted by: @ignant666

... does not say the children's song has anything at all to do with the 1863 article

I see. Perhaps the planes have been confused? Perhaps an acausal connection, that does not exist, has linked civil war grubs with a childrens's song?

The Can of Worms Diet has now progressed in stature to equal the profundities of the cipher-puzzle-code of Liber AL itself. Will the ecstatic revelations never cease?


   
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@shiva Since the subject of songs about worms, here are a few lyrics of another song of obscure origin: 

The Worms crawl in, the worms crawl out, the worms play pinochle on your snout.

They eat your eyes, they eat your nose, they eat the jelly between your toes.

They eat your clothes; they eat your hat.

They crawl in skinny and crawl out fat. Poem by Matthew Lewis, from The Monk, 1796.  Popular with British and American soldiers in W.W.!

 

 


   
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ignant666
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Do you ever check your claims before posting?

Needless to say, the quoted song is not from the poem "Alonzo the Brave and the Fair Imogine", by Matthew Lewis, author of 1796 gothic novel The Monk (which includes this poem in Ch.9).

It is possible that the first line of the song is parodying the poem, but none of the rest of either one resembles the other in any  way. However, it is more likely that Lewis was stealing a line from an old nursery rhyme, "The Gay Lady that Went To Church", in Gammer Gurton's Garland; Or, The Nursery Parnassus, a line which, much later, was also stolen by the song you quote. Here is that poem in its entirety, with the line that mentions worms bolded:

There was a lady all skin and bone;
Sure such a lady was never known:
It happen'd upon a certain day,
This lady went to church to pray.
When she came to the church stile,
There she did rest a little while;
When she came to the churchyard,
There the bells so loud she heard.
When she came to the church door,
She stopt to rest a little more;
When she came the church within,
The parson pray'd 'gainst pride and sin.
On looking up, on looking down,
She saw a dead man on the ground;
And from his nose unto his chin,
The worms crawl'd out, the worms crawl'd in.
Then she unto the parson said,
Shall I be so when I am dead:
O yes! O yes, the parson said,
You will be so when you are dead.
Here the lady screams.

We know this because the 1810 edition of Gammer Gurton's Garland footnotes the bolded line as follows:

This line has been adopted in the modern ballad of Alonzo and Fair Imogene.

Here is the stanza of Lewis' poem where worms are mentioned, and the following stanza, again with the sole mention of worms bolded:

All present then uttered a terrified shout—
All turned with disgust from the scene—
The worms they crept in, and the worms they crept out,
And sported his eyes and his temples about,
While the spectre addressed Imogine:

‘Behold me, thou false one! Behold me!’ he cried,
‘Remember Alonzo the Brave!
God grants that, to punish thy falsehood and pride,
My ghost at thy marriage should sit by thy side—
Should tax thee with perjury, claim thee as bride,
And bear thee away to the grave!’

If you post any nonsense between 2 pm (15 minutes from now) and roughly 90 minutes later, i won't point out that it's nonsense until the Brazil-Serbia game is over, so you will have that window of non-refutation to enjoy.

Or quit while you're behind, or maybe even start checking these claims before posting them and embarrassing yourself?

 


   
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@ignant666 Aren't you supposed to be cooking Thanksgiving dinner?


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

Since the subject of songs about worms

That is off-topic. You will be censored, canceled, or forced to eat worms. The subject is/was "can of worms" in relation to my submission. No further off-topicing can be permitted until the YEAR of the worm song is verified and coronated. After that, we'll get back to the SitRep and its implications. Or not.

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The SitRep asvises readers that Terra's magnetosphere is problematic. The poles haves shifted (N Pole is now over Siberia - S Pole is split and bi-located 'tween S America and Africa, with a Rrrriiiiipp in between). This is not sci-fi.

The upside for Thelemiyes, electrolytes, and other Metaphysicians is that the increaded frequencies (solar, cosmic) coming in through the Rriiipp will stimulate consciousness into transcendent mode.

When the grid goes down, you'll need a power source (or live in a cave). Do not eat the worms - put them in your garden!


   
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@ignant666 P.S. Thank you for your very informative essay on the song The Hearse Goes by.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

Aren't you supposed to be cooking Thanksgiving dinner?

Now that Brazil has finished shellacking those poor Serbians, the turkey and stuffing have just now gone into the oven.

That second goal was truly a thing of beauty. Just stunning.

 


   
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As my cat says,

As if to assert his reality.

 

'I'm here! I'm here!' 

He crawls up to you and even puts some claws in... to assert his reality.  He's a very smart boy. 

 

When deep down he is just scoring down an old wound which means we are all dead and hunted.

 

You're watching the football.

I am watching the wife cook.

 

You have years of learning.

I have years of yearning.

 

The only thing that really counts is our souls.

Do you believe in the soul? 

 

Turkey is good

 

Liber 334. 

 

 

 

 

 


   
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Posted by: @christibrany

Turkey is good

Or in our case around here, was good; better than expected in fact. Now but a memory. Actually, there are leftovers.

Posted by: @christibrany

Liber 334. 

One of AC's lesser-known works. Even obscurer than Liber Cactus.


   
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The PS is for the Brits

They watch this shite and say.

 

Wow.

 

They haven't learnt anything have they? 

 

That is in itself a very deep question. 

 

 


   
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@ignant666 

 

Love you iggers.

 

Anyway. 

 

we are in mountain time.

So I am hungry.

 

It's a SHOCKING BRITISH TURKEY FROM GORDON RAMSAY

 

great recipe 


   
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Right back atcha son, and enjoy your Mountain Time dinner. Lying down to digest and read now.


   
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