No drugs here
Among your many problems.
So clever mocking drug use, on a site devoted to the life and legacy of one of the biggest druggies ever to walk the planet. In the course of discussing the interpretation of a book that commands taking "strange drugs".
And so classy mocking Shiva for mentioning that the other (non AL) "Class A" docs are mostly "drug-induced, rambling but pretty prose", when he was agreeing with you that he too has "no interest in any of the other texts that are classified as A in Crowley's corpus."
No drugs here, but I can't say I'm certain about you given your posture.
Um, you seem to have missed the point. I was referring to the Liber Class A Scriptures having been scripted by AC who was in a drug-induced euphoria at the time.
I mentioned that you, like myself, disdain the importance of (some of) the A docs. I then ran on about Liber B, which might be the fourth most-important text in Thelemic literature ... according to my Thelema short-count Kalendar and List.
Anyway, if there's no strange drugs in your Temploratory, how can anyone take you seriously or Siriusly? The injunction in Ch 3 of the "holy" scripture, (L or AL), says you are supposed to take [them] with wine. However, you are advised to not break any laws in the UK or USA wjile doing so.
... the biggest druggies ever to walk the planet.
Um (again), there's a consideration here involved.
Rather than get philosophical about it, please allow me to modify your sentence as a possible alternative ...
"... the biggest druggies ever to walk the planet" without overdosing unto disability or death, while maintaining an unjailed, semi-normal position in contemporary society.
a book that commands taking "strange drugs"
Oh. You noticed.
... he was agreeing with you that he too has "no interest in any of the other texts that are classified as A in Crowley's corpus."
Oh. You noticed.
Um, you seem to have missed the point. I was referring to the Liber Class A Scriptures having been scripted by AC who was in a drug-induced euphoria at the time.
My apologies. A person can only absorb so much cryptic double-speak before the need arises to deflect it, referring to Crowley among others.
Anyway, if there's no strange drugs in your Temploratory, how can anyone take you seriously or Siriusly? The injunction in Ch 3 of the "holy" scripture, (L or AL), says you are supposed to take [them] with wine. However, you are advised to not break any laws in the UK or USA wjile doing so
That would be chapter two. As your neighbor next door, you know in Tejas such forms of worship are still met with a Draconian frown. Your neck of the woods seems to be coming around though.
A person can only absorb so much cryptic double-speak before the need arises to deflect it
The irony.... oooh, it stings!
The irony.... oooh, it stings!
Not as bad as you humping my leg constantly. 🤣
Not as bad as you humping my leg constantly
No more warnings, @herupakraath
Stray from the Guidelines one more time and your account will be deleted.
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LAShTAL
As it takes two to tango, and from my reading of the Judgment of the last locked thread, did concern two participants, one of whom is not named in the present warning.
Unfortunately there is a third, whom works in a tag team, and in this thread started the collapse of the discussion by calling Herupakraath's participation not on topic and accusatory in a superfluous manner:
"Oh, how elevated beyond the drug-induced, rambling but pretty prose you are." --Shiva
Of course Herupakraath has opened himself up to the potential that 'folk folly' might meet his computed discoveries, which might be the desired badge of recognition sought through the auspices of this Society and participants doing their part to deliver the bait.
And where I have found Ignant666's critique of Herupakraath's work welcome; and at times 'baroquely' comical, to then though pile on to Shiva's innuendo by attacking Herupakraath work because Herupakraath does not do drugs is silly and represents what is more of a popular culture misperception of Crowley and his work in my opinion.
But that, in itself, should not have caused Herupakraath to resort to such a thoroughly indecent response as to suggest he is the victim of continual attempted rape by a canine for said "15" years by Ignant666. That certainly goes beyond the pale as Ignant666 obviously is not a dog per the his avatar picture, suggestive of man or a god, though most likely high, we might look at the words as "God" "dog" and "highest" found in II.19, might be argued that the rejoinder was proper, but relative to an back alley and not Society.
Yes AC had a "monkey on his back" but that he and the Ape of Thoth had succumbed to everyday drugs, does not mean that they were not strange when first used...but I digress, and while AC was not known to bark, he certainly wag a tale.
Thus my note comes as one a bit disappointed with the locking of the last locked thread, but do recognize the Moderators's exercise of discretion to keep things in line for sake of a wider audience and other participants.
The consolation, relative to locked threads, is that all the threads seem to blend themselves in such a way that what was the original concern of a thread might be seeming lost by locking...For we see that lost topics things pick up again on other thread, as all the threads seem to have the potential off wondering off into any part of the hologram of the greater Crowleyean Ur-topic, which is the greater beast...
Thanks for this Site!
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@shiva I think you made a typo, "strange drugs" is found in Chapter 2, not 3.
H.'.,
An extraordinarily long post with rambles and long words. So long that I just skipped to the reply box, wondering ...
You are replying directly to LAShTAL, explaining how Heru came to losing his cool and degenerated into vulgar sex-dog mode lingo ... in the longest, most twisted post I have seen this week, wherein you try to explain the dynamics of what is going on.
Thank you.
Thus my note comes as one a bit disappointed with the locking of the last locked thread, but do recognize the Moderators's exercise of discretion to keep things in line for sake of a wider audience and other participants.
Um, thanks.
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LAShTAL
That is really bad reading comprehension.
Crowley is known to have imbibed random things before getting his mind right to channel these Libers.
"... the biggest druggies ever to walk the planet" without overdosing unto disability or death, while maintaining an unjailed, semi-normal position in contemporary society.
'semi normal'
Grady McMurphy and others on this board, myself included come to mind.
Sometimes annoyingly so. Oh well.
Embrace the suck?
I am getting a very vague grasp of the mathematics in this thread.
I thought the encoding of Pi etc into AL per the book OF THIS TOPIC/THREAD was very astounding.
Can someone explain how it is not astounding but, perhaps, expected? It would be appreciated.
I know it involves factors as in numerical factors? as in a factor of number X.
Grady McMurphy ...
McMurtry, if spelt correctly, was a bit the other side of semi-normal. He admitted to overdosing [LSD] and losing his grip for 2 years. He had to be looked-after and guided on the physical plane due to alcoholic overdosing.
Embrace the suck?
No. Please control your output.
Can someone explain how it is not astounding but, perhaps, expected? It would be appreciated.
I, personally, that is, me, have found nothing to be either astounding or expected in the words, letters, code books, numbers. Whenever something comes up that has a practical use, I will be congratulatory.
By "practical use," I mean find water (or gold is ok), restore health, open portals to other dimensions, promote internal or external harmony, or both ... that sort of thing.
I beliwvw (oh, no) that this is not the explanation you were seeking. Oh, well.
Dwtw
I discovered another relationship of the Golden Ratio to the text of Liber CCXX. As noted earlier in the thread, there are 5820 alphanumeric ‘words’ in the text. This ignores the 86 ampersands, which have no numerical value. It also ignores the 220 verse numbers, not normally counted in the gematria. These combine to make 306 other ‘words’ of the text.
So, we add these 306 'words' to the 5820 mentioned above to get 6126 ‘words’ in the complete text of Liber CCXX. This turns out to be directly related to the appearance of ‘foreign’ letters in all of the Holy Books of Theléma. In these Books, there are seven places where Greek and Hebrew words or letters appear, (I am not including the tables of sigils in Liber 231, or the mish-mash of letters that appear in the names of the genii).
373 = ΛΟΓΟΣ - Logos - Liber LXVI verse 65
93 = θελημα - Theléma – Will – Liber CCXX cap. 1 verse 39
90 = צ Tzaddi– 18th Hebrew letter – Liber CCXX cap. 1 verse 57
1495 = The entire Hebrew alefbet arranged in triads in Liber CD
813 = ארארותא – Ararita – a notarikon - Chapter headings of Liber 813
518 = Ου Μη – Ou Mé – Not Not - Liber 813, cap. 5 verse 1
404 = קדש – QaDoSh – Holiness - Liber 813, cap. 7 verse 0
3786 = total of all 48 foreign letters
Now divide the number of words in Liber CCXX by this total:
6126 / 3786 = ~ 1.61806656
Golden Ratio = ~ 1.61803398
Difference = ~ 0.00003258
This approximates the Golden Ratio, accurate to four decimal places.
The number 3786 = 3 * 1262 = 6 * 631
1262 = Αλασσω - Alassō - to Transmute
631 = דצניעותא - Ditzniotah - Concealed Mystery
The number 6126 = 3 * 2042 =the TQ gematria of Liber CCXX v. 2:64
Oh! thou art overcome: we are upon thee; our delight is all over thee: hail! hail: prophet of Nu! prophet of Had! prophet of Ra-Hoor-Khu! Now rejoice! now come in our splendour & rapture! Come in our passionate peace, & write sweet words for the Kings.
This is the injunction to the Prophet to “write sweet words”, some of which are in foreign letters that reveal the Golden Ratio of the total number of words in Liber CCXX.
Litllwtw
O.L.
93
Thanks for sharing this latest discovery, as always!
Where my cabalistic prowess hovers around naught, I can not help to be drawn to this number you have so extracted, and stating that that number as you say:
6126 ‘words’ in the complete text of Liber CCXX.
For I can not help but note the significant number 61 for obvious reasons as "Nothing is a secret key of this law. Sixty-one the Jews call it;" CCXX I. v.46 and which makes up half of the four digit numeral, at least in what might be in equation, in my mind.
And when I think of the number 26, I think of the number of letters in the English Alphabet as the important consideration.
Now by the arts, which in my case might be of an autistic or foolish in nature of certain functions might find by the laws of substitution finds the 61 can be replaced by a 0 and thus we have a new threefold number 026, and wherein the 0 can flip to a 1 as the Tarot so provides, for if we count from 0, then the 26 becomes a 27 and thus my mind, as I know that you are beyond familiar, Liber Trigrammaton so speaks, and through such a bifurcation point that conceals and reveals the golden ratio!
But maybe I am barking up a wrong tree!..filled with apples...
As always
Love is the law, love under will.
HG
Dwtw
It is quite interesting that you make the symbolic connection with 61, which of course is mentioned specifically in verse 1:46. One could indeed parse the decimal 6126 as 0 & 26, indicating the range of decimal values of the 27 trigrams of Liber XXVII, and even the interplay of the Ain with the Tetragrammaton. Some support for this symbolism comes from the word total itself.
There are 6126 'words' in Liber CCXX. 6126 = 6 * 1021.
There are exactly 1021 'words' in verses 1 to 45 of chapter 1. So this is one-sixth of the total of the Book. Therefore verse 1:46, which mentions 61, is the beginning of the next segment, when the Book is divided this way. And the last word of the first segment is "none!". This word provokes the next verse about how Nothing is a secret key, etc.
This 'word' count of course includes the verse numbers. There are 45 of them in the first section, and one Greek word (Theléma), leaving 975 English words in this section. And 975 is the gematria of the Greek word Δρακων - Drakōn meaning a dragon or serpent, but also Draco, the Dragon constellation.
A circle with a radius of 975 has a circumference of ~6126.105; this can be rounded to 6126, the number of words in the Book!
So the simple formula is that the number of English words in the first 45 verses of Liber CCXX (the first 6th of the Book), is the radius of a circle whose circumference is the number of words in the whole Book.
As is well-known, Draco the constellation winds around the north celestial pole. The symbolism here would be that Liber CCXX represents the Celestial Equator, the Pole is the center of the circle, and the relationship between them is the Serpent/Dragon that forms the radius of this circle, and thus connects the Pole to the Equator.
1021 is the 172nd prime, and 172 is the TQ gematria of 'Star-splendour', a poetic neologism created by Crowley specifically for this Book. Nuit shows her star-splendour in the constellation of Drakōn, and this name is a key to the word structure of Liber CCXX.
Litllwtw
O.L.