So it is primarily a tool for self-delusion, and self-aggrandizement, as you mentioned above?:
He said none of those things, which demonstrates why your arguments are hard to take seriously.
So far nothing you and you co-solver have presented impresses anyone as being "results that [you guys] could not have been created consciously.
Another problem with taking you seriously is you simply fail to acknowledge the facts presented. Upon demonstrating my birth name and birthplace can be produced using all of the II:76 puzzle letters, you accused me of searching for a gematria system until I found one that makes my information appear in the puzzle, regardless of the fact that it is impossible for me to cheat using a gematria system derived from the letter frequencies of the Book of the Law. At least Simon Iff had the sense to form an argument based on the possibility the results are simply luck, which I respected, until he started submitting false equivalencies.
None of my work using English gematria involves changing the spelling of words, or tweaking letter values to arrive at a desired result, and yet you accuse me incessantly of "fiddling" to produce results, which proves your position is untenable and incorrect. Instead of dwelling on what others think of me, maybe you should consider whether your arguments are well-formed, and have an actual basis.
There is only one way to make Boleskine equal the gematria value 418 using Hebrew values, and as long as established techniques are used, and they were, long before Aleister Crowley was born, it makes no difference how the word is spelled to arrive at 418. Also your denial of appealing to tradition when you obviously were, demonstrates that you want one set of rules for the protagonist, and a different set for the antagonist, which is clearly a double-standard.
Simon Iff is more willing than i to take you more seriously on your own terms, and runs rings around you both.
Now it is you that are skirting on the edge of delusion if you think any of the arguments made against my work will have a detrimental effect, or result in failure.
You guys seem more interested in gematria as a technology of the latter than in ego-death.
The concept of ego-death is rooted in the concept of sin as defined and by the Abrahamic religions, and has no bearing on Thelema as defined within the pages of the Book of the Law, regardless of how desperate the Biblical religions are to attach themselves to the text, and use it to prop up their backward views of the universe.
Technology has served as an extraordinary tool in my work from the very beginning, and the results bear that out for anyone willing to make an honest comparison of my work with that of others. Based on my decades of experience researching the dynamics of gematria systems, I can state with complete confidence that very few people have the insight required to determine whether a formidable gematria expression is random, contrived, or genuine, and yet those trying to do serious work are constantly criticized by those that have little insight into subject, and that includes you.
What knowing the things that our Cypher-Solving Comrades tell us they have found may be useful for is an issue they both seem unable to address.
Try to imagine your worst nightmare: the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen: it will be magnitudes worse than that.
None of my work using English gematria involves changing the spelling of words, or tweaking letter values to arrive at a desired result, and yet you accuse me incessantly of "fiddling" to produce results, which proves your position is untenable and incorrect.
I again advise you to your "Thelima" thing, which was exactly that: changing the spelling of words to arrive at a desired result. This was Tri-Key already and maybe you have gotten over it, but don't pretend you never did it. And please: it might be that "Thelima" is a modern spelling (though not in Liber L), but in other cases you need to rely on ancient spelling. As is the using of letter groups multiple times to succeed. I have forgotten when this happened but not so long ago and as usual you did not respond.
Try to imagine your worst nightmare: the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen: it will be magnitudes worse than that
Here's the funny thing. You have been promising this for at least 13 years. Just deliver - like soonish. Because your Tri-Key may work wonders with your name and address but Thelemic key words do not. They do not at all. Deliver! You said women will be so much better off with your solution, and there will be a whole new Magical System for Thelemites. You said that 13 years ago! It is time to deliver and not to be a sissy when anybody doubts that Liber L is nothing more than your calling card.
until he started submitting false equivalencies.
I never did that. I simply showed you that "Timmy Moss" is by definition of Gematria not the only solution (myself being a prime example), as did threefold31 in his "solutions" booklet. You might run your computer to find out how many possible names match 143.
So it is primarily a tool for self-delusion, and self-aggrandizement [...]?
Oh, no no no no!! A thousand times no, they say:
Try to imagine your worst nightmare: the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen: it will be magnitudes worse than that.
Based on my decades of experience researching the dynamics of gematria systems, I can state with complete confidence that very few people have the insight required to determine whether a formidable gematria expression is random, contrived, or genuine, and yet those trying to do serious work are constantly criticized by those that have little insight into subject, and that includes you.
Delusive self image, and inflated ego? Check!
Poor reality orientation? Check!
Fails to deliver the goods, because there are none? Need we even ask? Check!
While i reserve the right to submit more evidence to the Tribunal, i now believe that this reply provides incontrovertible evidence of the correctness of my arguments as to Prophet A, and move for summary judgement.
The somewhat more sane, less deluded, and better reality-oriented, and also nicer, Prophet B may feel free to hop in, or not, as he wills.
As is the using of letter groups multiple times to succeed.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. I did convert the letter groups into single values using gematria, and reduced each number group into a single value, and showed that by adding groups of values together, the sums 143 and 219 appear six times each in the II:76 puzzle, which are also values that can be generated from within the puzzle using both its letters and numbers independently of one another. After searching through billions of system permutations, I could not find another gematria system in all of the universe that can equal these results:
76 + 4 + 6 + 3 + 8 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 24 + 89 = 219
ABKALGMORYXRPSTOVAL = 219
ABK ALGMOR OVAL = 143
4 + 6 + 3 + 8 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 24 + 89 = 143
21 + ABK + YX + OVAL = 143
6 + 21 + YX + RPST + OVAL = 143
3 + ABK + ALGMOR + RPST = 143
3 + 21 + ABK + RPST + OVAL = 143
6 + ALGMOR + RPST + OVAL = 143
3 + 21 + 113 + ABK + YX = 219
6 + 21 + 113 + YX + OVAL = 219
3 + 113 + ABK + ALGMOR = 219
6 + 113 + ALGMOR + OVAL = 219
3 + 6 + 113 + ALGMOR + RPST = 219
It is only through repetition and symmetry that intelligible patterns can be exampled, as demonstrated.
I also posted a remarkable pattern formed from the individual letters in the puzzle that suggest the Tri-key was indeed used to create the puzzle. When the letters are arranged alphabetically, four perfect patterns of cosmological components appear:
A, B, G : Venus, Jupiter, Saturn
K, L, M, O: Earth, Water, Air, Fire
P, R, S, T : Capricorn, Cancer, Taurus, Aries
V, X, Y : Uranus, Neptune, Mars
The evidence is there, you and the other critics are simply in denial.
The evidence is there, you and the other critics are simply in denial.
There just aren't any words.
Evidence? This Bible Code stuff is "evidence" in your mind?
In law, "evidence" lets us prove things about past events. In science, "evidence" is used to construct and test hypotheses: we can successfully predict future events.
What you have is a bunch of alleged patterns. You believe that these are "real".
But your alleged patterns don't enable anyone, even you, to do anything in the real world, or to successfully predict future events. So not scientific evidence.
And because your alleged patterns do not enable anyone to do anything in the real world, they are of no use to "attainment"/"getting out"/stopping the chattering of the monkey mind.
And whether your alleged patterns are even "real", or are mere mathematical artifacts of your self-created "system", or coincidences, is in dispute, so they are not yet admissible evidence in the legal sense.
We know that you have never taken even a moderately rigorous college-level math class (you did not know that "arithmetic" and "mathematics" are not synonyms until i told you this). Thus, the odds that your system has inherent mathematical flaws that are the source of your "findings" are very very high.
The fact that no one has been willing, or is likely ever to be willing, to devote the large amount of effort that is needed to find, and demonstrate these flaws does not mean that they don't exist. It means that other folks have better things to do than that- they aren't getting the ego-gratification from finding that Liber AL is all about me-me-me that you are.
So, no "evidence" here. Only a bloated ego, would-be comic book supervillain who is going to kill my dogs, and family, and immiserate all living humans because someone calls him a nut on an internet forum.
Kind of over being polite to you after your threats about things worse than my worst nightmares that you are going to inflict on me.
Step up or step off, delusional bitch-ass lunatic.
herupakraath: "After searching through billions of system permutations, I could not find another gematria system in all of the universe that can equal these results: [...]
a remarkable pattern formed from the individual letters in the puzzle that suggest the Tri-key was indeed used to create the puzzle. When the letters are arranged alphabetically, four perfect patterns of cosmological components appear: ..."
herupakraath, how is this not just you thinking up a gematria system, or gematria systems, providing you with results that you appear to find convincing, according to your opinion, or your way of thinking?
herupakraath, how is this not just you thinking up a gematria system, or gematria systems, providing you with results that you appear to find convincing?
I am tired of repeating myself:
You accused me of searching for a gematria system until I found one that makes my information appear in the puzzle, regardless of the fact that it is impossible for me to cheat using a gematria system derived from the letter frequencies of the Book of the Law.
You said women will be so much better off with your solution, and there will be a whole new Magical System for Thelemites
I'd really like to know what those are, especially the former.
I am tired of repeating myself
So stop then? No one will care about your delusional wank for a second after you stop posting about it. No need to be both a Martyr and a Prophet.
Maybe go get some mental health evaluations done with all your new free time?
Continuing with the original topic, the first sentence in verse II:27 of the Book of the Law offers an interesting clue as to the origin of the name Aiwass:
There is great danger in me; for who doth not understand these runes shall make a great miss.
The use of the term runes is odd, and in itself suggests there is an esoteric meaning involved. As it happens, there is a literal rune that bears the same pronunciation as Aiwass, and symbolizes the yew tree, suggesting further that Aiwass is not an alternate name for Satan, but instead finds its roots in the Indo-European languages:
"Eiwaz or Eihaz is the reconstructed Proto-Germanic name of the rune ᛇ, coming from a word for "yew". Two variants of the word are reconstructed for Proto-Germanic, *īhaz (*ē2haz, from Proto-Indo-European *eikos), continued in Old English as ēoh (also īh), and *īwaz (*ē2waz, from Proto-Indo-European *eiwos), continued in Old English as īw (whence English yew). The latter is possibly an early loan from the Celtic, compare Gaulish ivos, Breton ivin, Welsh ywen, Old Irish ēo. The common spelling of the rune's name, "Eihwaz", combines the two variants; strictly based on the Old English evidence, a spelling "Eihaz" would be more proper."
herupakraath:
"... You accused me of searching for a gematria system until I found one that makes my information appear in the puzzle, regardless of the fact that it is impossible for me to cheat using a gematria system derived from the letter frequencies of the Book of the Law."
Well, duh, herupakraath! Your above weak or sham argument about it supposedly being impossible for you to cheat when using the gematria system mentioned by you in said argument, is easily refuted by the lack of others agreeing with you, with respect to the validity of the results of this system.
the lack of others agreeing with you, with respect to the validity of the results of this system.
Yes.
The set of those who believe Timmy is not a delusional nut consists of Timmy alone. He has literally zero converts in more than a decade. People believe that the late 'Big Liz" sold drugs, QAnon, etc- you can convince some folks to believe anything. But no one can be convinced to believe this ego-boo swill.
Almost certainly those who interact with Timmy just have no idea who he is. If they only knew! Can't imagine that he has told his parents, siblings, or other family members, or that he even has a wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend to tell.
Must be a lonely life plotting world destruction and revenge. Poor widdle Tim-Tim.
Sorry for double-post:
Try to imagine your worst nightmare: the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen: it will be magnitudes worse than that.
Just wanted to note that this is like the 20th anniversary of my first lashtal death-threat, and there have been dozens of others since.
The real world results of dozens of death threats over 20 years: a few harassing emails, a fabricated and slanderous chan post that made it to reddit, various shenanigans here that Paul deletes when they are pointed out to him, and one of those glitter-mess cards (that failed to make a glitter mess- i didn't open it the way the seller presumes you will).
So the record here, and the consequent Bayesian odds, says that you will be not be able to deliver on threats of delivering unto me something "magnitudes worse" than my "worst nightmare". Or even a wet fart.
i appreciate your contributions here!
Without having to even consider the merits of your Cabalistic system, positive or negative, it does seem you have endured folk folly here for at least a decade....Congratulations.
Now it is interesting that you get attacks on your system, but those attacks are are silent upon what is a potentially a very important thesis that takes our understanding of the word/name Aiwass into another reality through the lens of the runes...a contribution which I appreciate with its resonation to archetypal imprints and pollens...
HG
"Eiwaz or Eihaz is the reconstructed Proto-Germanic name of the rune ᛇ, coming from a word for "yew".
So how would that link with interpretations of the rune itself?
Evidence? This Bible Codes stuff is "evidence" in your mind?
Now go back and actually read the information provided in the link you posted. I am quite familiar with the concept of the Bible Codes, and here is the difference between that concept and what I posted relating to the II:76 puzzle:
1. The focus of the Bible Codes is the text of The Torah, a literary work that consists of nothing but written text. The II:76 puzzle seen in Liber Legis is a demonstrable cipher that invites the reader to solve it: comparing the two concepts is a false equivalency.
2. Critics of the Bible Codes have pointed out that in creating the codes, the text of The Torah is specially formatted in order to facilitate the results: not so in the case of my work with the II:76 cipher. I work with existing patterns in the puzzle, which shows another false equivalency on your part.
3. Computer scientists demonstrated they could produce results similar to those of the Bible Codes in other texts, thus indicating the codes are random. An equivalent effort as it applies to the numeric patterns I have exampled in the II:76 puzzle will require showing other gematria systems can produce the same results: as stated, I have already searched and could not find a single system that can recreate the results: I invite and encourage anyone else to attempt the same examination. .
But your alleged patterns don't enable anyone,
They are not alleged, they have have been demonstrated. Anyone can check the results by referring to the Zodiacal Array, which I made available on this site recently.
But your alleged patterns don't enable anyone, even you, to do anything in the real world,
You have a habit of speaking on behalf of the entire population of the planet, when your view of the universe is yours and yours alone, regardless of the rank you may think you hold within the herd.
And whether your alleged patterns are even "real", or are mere mathematical artifacts of your self-created "system", or coincidences, is in dispute, so they are not yet admissible evidence in the legal sense.
Kangaroo courts have no authority, and neither do you in regard to the subject matter being discussed.
We know that you have never taken even a moderately rigorous college-level math class (you did not know that "arithmetic" and "mathematics" are not synonyms until i told you this).
"Addition in math is a process of combining two or more numbers. Addends are the numbers being added, and the result or the final answer we get after the process is called the sum. It is one of the essential mathematical functions we use in our everyday activities."
We, we, we--you should stop presuming you speak for others. Your argument is absurd.
Thus, the odds that your system has inherent mathematical flaws that are the source of your "findings" are very very high.
The patterns I provided in my previous post consist of simple addition--they can be be verified by a 12-year old! And, I hope the irony is not lost on you that you were critical of me for using the term mathematics to describe the nature of some of my work, and then used it yourself to describe the very same work.
Kind of over being polite to you after your threats about things worse than my worst nightmares that you are going to inflict on me.
Step up or step off, delusional bitch-ass lunatic.
Seriously? You wrote:
What knowing the things that our Cypher-Solving Comrades tell us they have found may be useful for is an issue they both seem unable to address
I addressed your statement by inferring that one of the primary uses of my "cypher-solving" will consist of your worst nightmare, it will accomplish the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen.
I would like to apologize for referring to you as Jethro in the past: I hope he'll forgive me. 😆
[Bold added for emphasis:]
herupakraath: "... one of the primary uses of my "cypher-solving" will consist of your worst nightmare, it will accomplish the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen."
"... your worst nightmare, ..." herupakraath, is the actual meaning behind what you describe as "The II:76 puzzle seen in Liber Legis is a demonstrable cipher that invites the reader to solve it:"
"4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y X 24 89 R P S T O V A L" (Source: Aleister Crowley's The Book of the Law, Chapter 2, verse 76.)
"glamour noun [...] variants or less commonly glamor[.] Synonyms of glamour[:] 1 : an exciting and often illusory and romantic attractiveness[.] [...] Synonyms[:] [...] hex"[.]
Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/glamour
"... hex [...] verb [...] transitive verb[:] 1 : to put a hex on[.] 2 : to affect as if by an evil spell: JINX[.]
Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hex
"... jinx [...] verb [...] transitive verb : to foredoom to failure or misfortune : bring bad luck to"[.] Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jinx
What I write in this posting, is not me competing with you herupakraath, in solving the above mentioned cipher. And a different person than me, did already early in 2015, point out that the said cipher pertains to glamor:
https://www.lashtal.com/forums/thelema/various-ii76-cipher-solutions/#post-86156
Reponse to your latest imbecilic bullshit:
The focus of the Bible Codes is the text of The Torah, a literary work that consists of nothing but written text. The II:76 puzzle seen in Liber Legis is a demonstrable cipher that invites the reader to solve it: comparing the two concepts is a false equivalency.
This makes little sense. So what? You do not just attempt to solve the cypher, you apply your "work" to the whole text. The Bible Code bullshit is an exact and correct parallel.
The only difference, which of course is why your bullshit still survives, is that AL is obscure and of interest to a couple thousand persons in the world, whereas the Bible is of interest to billions. Thus, actual mainstream stats folks and mathematicians have taken the time to refute the Bible Codes; your delusional bullshit hides in the reeds of obscurity because no one can be bothered with your petty ego-induced delusional crap.
Computer scientists demonstrated they could produce results similar to those of the Bible Codes in other texts, thus indicating the codes are random.
Yes, including eg phone books.
I have already searched and could not find a single system that can recreate the results
No one has said that you are competent to do this work, so that you are incapable of finding the flaws in your system should surprise no one. Again, we must ask "So what?"
You have never taken a college level math class, you are in over your head and have no idea what you are doing, and the fact that you turn up empty is evidence in your mind? Please.
If you really think you have something here, enroll in community college math classes until you find a prof willing to work with you on this project. Without someone who actually knows some math, your chances of success are zero. Of course, your project will not survive contact with anyone with a math grad degree, so you will carefully protect it from such contact and will never take this advice.
I invite and encourage anyone else to attempt the same examination.
Why on earth would i or anyone else who wasn't getting paid to do this invest the time and effort?
Your "work" is obvious delusional bullshit, but demonstrating exactly how you have deluded yourself and exactly which aspects of your ignorance account for the results is likely to take a good deal of work, and stronger math background than mine (i've taken rigorous math at undergrad and grad levels, but certainly am not competent to teach 'em).
See comment above on how you can indirectly pay someone to do this work: by enrolling in community college math classes which are subject to considerable subsidies by govt.
They are not alleged, they have have been demonstrated.
No, they have not been "demonstrated"; they have been claimed by an obviously mentally-ill person with no math background.
There is no person on this planet except yourself who agrees that your claims have been "demonstrated". The universal reaction among all who are aware of your work is mockery.
Publish your "results" in a peer-reviewed math or stats journal and then we can talk.
You have a habit of speaking on behalf of the entire population of the planet, when your view of the universe is yours and yours alone, regardless of the rank you may think you hold within the herd.
We know your delusional bullshit is useless for anything in the real world because you have been asked over and over and ever for years by me and many others what it is good for. You still have no answer.
Your "work" flunks the "So what?" test, even if the patterns were "real". It has no significance outside itself.
Kangaroo courts have no authority, and neither do you in regard to the subject matter being discussed.
I never asserted any, dumb-ass. "Evidence" is a key concept in the two disciplines in which i hold graduate degrees (law, and science). I evaluated your claims to have "evidence" from each point of view.
We, we, we--you should stop presuming you speak for others. Your argument is absurd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the fact still remains that you last took a "math" class in high school, (or middle school) and have no training adequate to allow you to evaluate your "work".
We know this because you equivocate, and evade, and change the subject each time i point out this obviously super-relevant fact.
If you could, you would refute my claim by saying "Oh-ho-ho, Mr. Smarty-Pants, yes i did so take college math. i took Math 101 at Amarillo Community Agricultural College in fall 1999."
I would then (in this alternate universe) reply "That's Dr. Smarty-Pants to you son, but fair enough".
But you haven't, can't, and won't, cause you didn't.
And, I hope the irony is not lost on you that you were critical of me for using the term mathematics to describe the nature of some of my work, and then used it yourself to describe the very same work.
Look, i get that you are dumb as a rock, but to say that an elaborate system of arithmetic analysis of a text is almost certain to be mathematically flawed is not to make an ironic statement, as you imagine, but to make a statement that goes well over your head, because you have zero math background.
You are, as African American Vernacular English puts it, "showing your ass" [displaying your utter ignorance] with this statement.
I addressed your statement by inferring that one of the primary uses of my "cypher-solving" will consist of your worst nightmare, it will accomplish the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen.
So get at it, son. Proof is in the pudding and all. Your delusional bullshit is over a decade old- when will you unleash your might? Whip it out, and show us what you got.
We both know why you haven't done this, and will never do this, and why the "new system of magick revealed to you by Egyptian Adepts" will never be published: it's all delusional bullshit wank.
You got nothing, and you know it just as well as i do,
Just to remind you, this is what you actually said, punk-ass wannabe comic-book supervillain:
Try to imagine your worst nightmare: the one thing that you and others have convinced yourselves is impossible and could never happen: it will be magnitudes worse than that.
You have told me that your will use your mighty powers to kill my dogs and my family and immiserate humanity. That would be about my worst nightmare. You have promised to do things "magnitudes worse than that".
Get at it, bitch-boy- use those mighty powers. You are a sad joke of an Internet Tough Guy, Occult Division.
I would like to apologize for referring to you as Jethro in the past: I hope he'll forgive me. [emoji]
Baffled by this. If you want to follow up on your threats, ask any passing Nazi for my contact info, they all seem to know it. Then you can come and kill my dogs and family in front of my eyes as you have threatened to do.
Come well armed, and plan to be very lucky. I am an old man now, but have plentiful stores of guile, malice, and bitter experience under my belt. Do be sure to make a will first, just in case you have a bad day. It would be a shame if the state of Texas got your action figures and porn vids etc because you died intestate.
Done replying here, as it is a waste of time talking to a gibbering moron like you, and i may well get banned anyway.
@herupakraath I THINK I might have found the post that made me accuse you of grouping and regrouping numbers with a desired result, though I am not totally sure. It is simply too nauseating to search all your posts to find what I was referring to, but you surely never answered this one, it is from WLWB's 395 solution thread, it would be supernice if you can explain yourself here:
this is accomplished by including number groups in the puzzle that can be added to the letter groups:
ABK ALGMOR OVAL = 143
21 + ABK + YX + OVAL = 143
6 + 21 + YX + RPST + OVAL = 143
3 + ABK + ALGMOR + RPST = 143
3 + 21 + ABK + RPST + OVAL = 143
6 + ALGMOR + RPST + OVAL = 143ABK ALGMOR YX RPST OVAL = 219
3 + 21 + 113 + ABK + YX = 219
6 + 21 + 113 + YX + OVAL = 219
3 + 113 + ABK + ALGMOR = 219
6 + 113 + ALGMOR + OVAL = 219
3 + 6 + 113 + ALGMOR + RPST = 219Can you please explain what you mean by number groups here? I do not get it. I could imagine 21 is 4+6+3+8. Kind of makes sense. But then why suddenly add 6 (which is not a group by the way) to 21, which already contains the one and only 6. Or 3 (which also no sane human would call a group) to 21? It should be quite clear that you can come to every desired conclusion if you use the numbers more than once and add or substract it however you feel. Or am I missing something here?
Or to make things clearer. I just invented an arbitrary qabalah system, where every letter jumps up 7 in value and why not? Isn't 7 a perfectly magical number? So i f I do that I get:
A = 1
B = 8
C = 15
D = 22
E = 3 (29-26)
F = 10
G = 17
H = 24
I = 5 (31-26)
J = 12
K = 19
L = 26
M = 7 (33-26)
N = 14
O = 21
P = 2
Q = 9
R = 16
S = 23
T = 4 (30-26)
U = 11
V = 18
W = 25
X = 6 (32-6)
Y = 13
Z = 20
Then:
ABKALGMORYXRPSTOVAL = 1+8+19+1+26+17+7+21+16+13+6+16+2+23+4+21+18+1+26 = 246
I then use your "letter groups" and add "number groups", meaning groups, or single numbers, or repeating numbers and I get this:
ABK + XY + 113 + 24 + 21 + 21 +21 = 246
XY + OVAL + 113 + 24 + 24 = 246
ABK + ALGMOR + 113 + 4 + 6 + 2 + 3 = 246
ALGMOR + OVAL + 89 + 3 = 246
ALGMOR + RPST + 113 = 246
Works perfectly I think. Some of them are even more elegant than yours. ( maybe there is some error in it, it was done fast, but then I will have no problem in arriving at the same outcome).
So, what is your system with number groups?
@ignant666 OUCH!!!
No ouch needed. If you haven't grasped the steadily increasing arrogance and boasting in Herupakraat's posts maybe I should single them out (you can also read his PDFs). Would be quite some work though. It seems he THINKS he has found something that will crush all us doubters. But what can I say? This is going on for months and years. Either he has it or not. If he won't share it it's non-existent. Nobody can deny that using HIS qabalah will show Tim Moss or Amarillo TX over and over, but so far no Thelemic concepts go with these numbers or anything new has been revealed. And the only other 143 sentence is "But exceed exceed" which isn't exactly super important (though the chances might be one in a million). We - and especially Thelemic women - are waiting for something fruitful. The funny thing is: WE are the 5-10 Lashtalians who are kind enough to engage with him, there are also 2 or 3 in a totally fringe and useles Facebook group. His websites appear and disappear quite unfollowed - though he might be posting his shit on other Social media I am not aware of. I have the feeling he really only wants to show US HERE how cool his solution is. Which is by the way the most un-adept thing to be done. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe we will be crushed. Maybe he is the "chosen one" (the heading of all of his websites - EDIT: no it was: the child of the prophet). I surely would like to know. But if this goes on for another 13 years no-one will listen. C'mon, Tim, show us. Crush us!
It seems he THINKS he has found something that will crush all us doubters. But what can I say?
Nothing. Just silently prepare to be crushed.
Look, I am sorry, it took me a while to see that 2+4 is 6 which is the group you probably thought of (still doesn't make 3 a "group"). So okay. Still - as I showed - you can make up everything with these numbers. There can be another 6 and also a 17. This is just logical. You can do every thing with these numbers (including what you did). There is no end to it.
I'd really like to know what those are, especially the former.
I started a long response to your request yesterday but stopped amid the contentiousness and teeth-gnashing. I'll post something soon in a different thread. I enjoy reading your thoughts by the way.
You have told me that your will use your mighty powers to kill my dogs and my family and immiserate humanity. That would be about my worst nightmare. You have promised to do things "magnitudes worse than that".
Get at it, bitch-boy- use those mighty powers. You are a sad joke of an Internet Tough Guy, Occult Division.
Anyone that has read this thread knows I neither wrote nor implied any such thing, and went out of my way to clarify exactly what I meant: I was referring to effect my written work will have on you, and nothing more.
I enjoy reading your thoughts by the way.
Thank you.
Curiosity is one of my weaknesses, but also one of my strengths.
Eiwaz
It's been a while since I've worked extensively with runes, so I'm typing this from memory. Please forgive me if I make any errors, and point them out to me.
Eihwaz is still a bit of an enigma, even it’s pronunciation is uncertain, as is its original purpose, so many interpretations seem to be more modern. The wiki link you provides mentioned some speculation about it having originally been a bindrune. It’s associated with the yew, and is also connected by some to Yggdrasil itself, and therefore to a model of the worlds, and of initiation, similar to the Tree of Life. It’s also been connected with the inverse form of Eolh, also linked with the yew, seen by some as indicating a connection to the mysteries of life and death. The yew itself of course is toxic, with the toxin having potentially psychedelic effects in small doses. I’ve seen mention that even the offgassing of the tree can cause hallucinations, but I have no solid sources for that. Note that “toxin” has an etymological connection to “taxus”, the Latin word for yew. So it can be seen as a rune (mystery) of initiation. Yew wood is also popularly used in talismans of protection
Any connection to the Wolfsangel, or Wolf Hook, or to the Armanic Gibor rune, may be superficial.
All that said, Crowley really didn’t reference runes much,though among Thelemic groups the Fraternitas Saturni delves in to them.
It's been a while since I've worked extensively with runes, so I'm typing this from memory. Please forgive me if I make any errors, and point them out to me.
My knowledge of runes is superficial, but it's a subject that interests me.
Eihwaz is still a bit of an enigma, even it’s pronunciation is uncertain, as is its original purpose, so many interpretations seem to be more modern. The wiki link you provides mentioned some speculation about it having originally been a bindrune.
So to clarify, a Bindrune is two runes that have been combined: in that case, Eihwaz could represent the union of a person with his or her true self or guardian angel, thus fitting remarkably well with the concept Crowley associated with Aiwass.
The yew itself of course is toxic, with the toxin having potentially psychedelic effects in small doses. I’ve seen mention that even the offgassing of the tree can cause hallucinations, but I have no solid sources for that. Note that “toxin” has an etymological connection to “taxus”, the Latin word for yew. So it can be seen as a rune (mystery) of initiation. Yew wood is also popularly used in talismans of protection
Fascinating. If not for your interest and response, it is unlikely I would have typed YEW TREE into my gematria program a few minutes ago, and learned that YEW TREE = 45 = AIWASS. It all adds up. 🙂
This an area that needs a lot more research. Thanks for your insight.
So to clarify, a Bindrune is two runes that have been combined: in that case, Eihwaz could represent the union of a person with his or her true self or guardian angel, thus fitting remarkably well with the concept Crowley associated with Aiwass.
The theory in this specific case is that Eihwaz may have been a bindrune composed of Isa and Jera
Fascinating.
Thank you.
This an area that needs a lot more research. Thanks for your insight.
Thank you for giving me a chance to share a little bit about runes. It's been a while. Like I said, they don't get a lot of attention in Thelema, and, honestly, I don't know how much of an interest Crowley himself may have had in them, if any. Even the Fraternitas Saturni's work in the area seems more focused on von List's Armanic runes and the work of later Armanists like Marby and Kummer.
I neither wrote nor implied any such thing
Horseshit.
You promised to do things "orders of magnitude worse than my worst nightmares." If my family and dogs are alive, you have not even approached the limits of "nightmare".
I was referring to effect my written work will have on you, and nothing more.
Your conceit unfortunately vastly exceeds your writing ability then.
If you were to get your work published in a top stats journal, and every Thelemite on the planet were to hail you as The One Who Comes After, I can imagine saying to myself something like "Huh, imagine some kinda shit like that! Ol' Cuckoo-Pants Texas Tim-Tim was right after all! Whooda thunk it ?"
But your shit is so trivial and pointless that I can't imagine anyone much caring if you were to prove you are right.
Of course, it would shut down Thelema- who would give a fuck about it/AL if the whole thing were so trivial as to be about encoding the name of of some Texas nobody? That would bother me like stubbing my toe. In retrospect, we would feel silly to have taken this stuff seriously i suppose.
But you are not, and never will be (no matter what you publish) "important" to anyone except your momma.
And of course it's all delusional bullshit, and the day you fantasize about when you "show them all" will never come.
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