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Posted by: @wellreadwellbred

(Bold added by me to quoted text[-s], for the sake of clarity:)

 

 

I think more than bold would be required for that.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Mary is a female name...not knowing who the father was is legion...an old story, including calling all woman whores...to which the gesture of Joseph speaks to a protection of mothers and their children, and the child in question, who identified who his father really was, did not segregate stars by not treating a prostitute named Mary as something other than a receptacle to be used under contract (where the house gets paid, not the vehicle)...

Be fruitful and multiply is not anti-sex, but guilt regarding physical contact was the source of great sado masochistic guilt trips which Thelema has served to break (???),... by not crushing the little flowers...!

 

 

 


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If anyone is interested in exploring Liber AL text reversed as mentioned previously, I uploaded it as text file here https://pastebin.com/qPtvnKY4 New lines are not truncated yet I will need to play around with the sed or tr to get that correct. (source: sed -e 's/\s+/ /g' -e 's/ /\n/g' < liber.txt | rev | tr '\n' ' ' ; echo )

In Prophetes Veritas Venit. Quod ambulas cum Thelema et Agape est semper fidelis pietas.


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@hadgigegenraum The only portion of Liber AL that bothers me is "let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!" What business is it of yours if the women are chaste? The disbanding of the Vestial Virgins and the extinguishing of the sacred fire is a prominent feature in the fall of Romanum pietas deorum. Unless women means something else.

In Prophetes Veritas Venit. Quod ambulas cum Thelema et Agape est semper fidelis pietas.


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Posted by: @runelogix

What business is it of yours if the women are chaste?

Crowley didn't like chaste women.

Therefore, the Book backs him up.


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Most scholars believe that religious influence paled in comparison to military, economic, administrative factors that contributed to the fall of Rome.

Vesta was not the only pietas.
There were a great number of deities honored.
Outside of civil theology there were also The Mysteries concealed from the profane.
A woman in status of her own right not owned by man or the disposable property of the father; a powerful woman of means, regardless of celibacy was sometimes referred to as Virgin.

Gather the wood, light the sacred fire, knead the dough and make cakes of bread, burn incense, pour out drink and offerings to her;
Bright Queen of Heaven.
Lady of the sky,
Daughter of the Moon,
erotic ,beautiful, unpredictable,
uninhibited, desirous, overwhelming, engorged, enraptured, inspired with urge of spirit;
calling forth treasures that erupt from the depths of moonlit crossroads and fathomless ever shifting seas;
more than mere ordinary utilitarian man;
not confined to inherent sin and civil perfunctory procreation;
turning heads
to beauty, magic and wonder;
may the foam-born
Aphrodisia festivals be launched !


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@hadgigegenraum The only portion of Liber AL that bothers me is "let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!" What business is it of yours if the women are chaste? The disbanding of the Vestial Virgins and the extinguishing of the sacred fire is a prominent feature in the fall of Romanum pietas deorum. Unless women means something else.

So that's the only line that bothers you?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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@dom Probably

Posted by: @tiger

There were a great number of deities honored.

Yeah you would almost think there was a Pantheon devoted to pantheist deities. This ingenious commentary is such an incredible epiphany, of such nuance and incredible depth, I would think you should have the BBC hire you to explain to the public that the BBC is the British Broadcast Corporation. I am grateful that someone of such profound insight could explain such a fact to a pantheist on a pantheist forum. Really incredible stuff. And your analysis is definitely more coherent than Mary Beard's 20 hour or so commentary on the topic. Presumably you have more teeth too.

@dom We know you have reading comprehension issues but really try to elicit a non binary response if you want a discussion to enfold because I am not going to repeat myself.

In Prophetes Veritas Venit. Quod ambulas cum Thelema et Agape est semper fidelis pietas.


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@dom We know you have reading comprehension issues but really try to elicit a non binary response if you want a discussion to enfold because I am not going to repeat myself.

There's a lot of sections in Chapter 3 that would give any SJW a lot to decry but you're not bothered about those sections because somehow now you're an ultra-feminist or something?  

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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@dom We know you have reading comprehension issues but really try to elicit a non binary response if you want a discussion to enfold because I am not going to repeat myself.

Who is the 'we'?  A reminder of who you are unless you've had radical therapy since a year ago;

 

On page 3 of this thread here;  

Do Communists, Anarchists and Leftists ‘fear money’? – Thelema – LAShTAL.COM Forum 

our friend Runelogix (who hates 'binary responses')  had stated (as documented by me in my post @

The people of a nation on a whole are children and if they are not cared for, nurtured, and cared for to behave in beneficial ways you have the exact kind of dysfunction you see among a large percentage of black Americans: complete anti-social breakdown and an inevitable mass incarceration for societies protection from out of control people. The last thing these people need is more fentanyl. The people without discipline are no better than slaves.

In the subsequent post I asked "Why single out 'the black Americans' in your argument as oppose to white or any other colour?" and he answered; "  Because statistics lives matter."

 

As Ignant said on the same page;  (I think we now need to amend his summation and add  "ultra-feminist" to the following list) ; 

 

   

So far in just this thread, @runelogix is a Thelemic fundamentalist, Trump-supporter, Gorean warrior, homophobe, and hater of drug users, (and i'm sure i've left stuff out), who thinks self-described "superfascist" Evola was a pinko softy, and "liked men too" despite his (Evola's) virulent homophobia.

And is either a big fan of gay Nazi Ernst Rohm, or of other Nazis killing gay Nazis like Ernst Rohm, or, perhaps, both.

Clearly a man we should all listen to.

 

 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Posted by: @runelogix

because I am not going to repeat myself.

@dom Alas, he (or she) always does. So, don't be too touchy about his (or her) comments, he (or she) is nothing but a troll. I mean, we all envy him (or her) because of his (or her) achievements in the crypto currencies business (if they are true), but anything else from him (or her) so far was just ridiculous nonsense, though niftily phrased. A pathetic example of a loud-mouthed megalomaniac nothing. Or - as I just said - a niftily phrasing troll. We had quite a few of them over the years.

Just my two cents, as they say.

Love=Law

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Posted by: @the_real_simon_iff

Just my two cents

Congratulations!  For only two cents you have just ignited ww4 (ww3 is now online and in the streets worldwide). But, please, before the end, can you tell me why crypto-current-cy has any value (other than a few guys/gals at the bottom/top of the pyramid  agreed it was so ... then the followers ran in up like a manic stock market scramble)?


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Posted by: @shiva

can you tell me why crypto-current-cy has any value

Sorry, no, I can't, but it feels like we (old people) missed something. Maybe not. Probably not.

 


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Posted by: @the_real_simon_iff

Maybe not. Probably not.

All non-value pyramid schemes work really well for the founders and the early followers. The tail-end followers pay all the bills for those who are sitting higher on the pyramid. By doing so, they lose their investment. The trick is to know when "early" becomes "too late."

On the other hand, with the US Natl Debt looking toward 30 trillion, I believe it is all crytpo-casho now ... except for those ancient coin things that are made from gold or silver.


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Posted by: @shiva

All non-value pyramid schemes work really well for the founders and the early followers. The tail-end followers pay all the bills for those who are sitting higher on the pyramid. By doing so, they lose their investment. The trick is to know when "early" becomes "too late."

Yep, what looked like a real alternative in the monetary sector has become (logically in the end) just one more toy for the rich to get richer. A few exceptions allowed. Whoever still thinks of it as as "free and independent currency" is just foolish. It might break up "regular" currencies but it won't break up the money hierarchy.

For us regular folks it is probably way too late.

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Posted by: @the_real_simon_iff

For us regular folks it is probably way too late.

But we are not regular, except in our devotions. Says so in Liber AL, writ by ol' Fakey, who could not keep dates straight. That reminds me of a loose end.

In one of the introductory Libers, it is written that the Probationer, et al, must write his Record plainly, so that someone else can read it (no secret codes).

Then, here we are, a hundred years later, and reading the original manuscripts of yestercentury we find discrepancies, irregularities, and secret codes!

So much for Record writ that someone can understand.

Anyway, we are the boys of LAShTAL U.
Gamblin' with dollars we eschew.
We don't smoke and we don't chew.
And we don't go with girls that do.

 


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