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Posted by: @michael-staley

The Egyptian mythology – Nuit, Hadit, Ra-hoor-khuit – are simply trappings, reflecting Crowley's upbringing in the Golden Dawn.

 

Thank you!   This was essentially the point that I was trying to make earlier in this thread.  

 

Posted by: @damien

To take it even farther: Can a reasonable person believe that whatever the "Aeon" is is the end all be all of anything?

 

What we see now is only part of a whole. The previous Aeons, viewed as historical periods rather than as stages of individual human development, certainly did not represent universal paradigms for the whole of humanity at the time, just what was seen as what predominant trends in human civilization.  Isis- not so much literally matriarchal as animistic, shamanic, hunter-gathering, etc, and Osiris- not so much literally patriarchal as permanent settlements developing in to cities, establishing laws, more widespread use of language vs pictograms, etc. 

Crowley didn't have a monopoly on the idea either, others had similar concepts for a new Aeon emerging at the time. 

 

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

Sometimes mavericks who eschew the trappings of vanity

This does not mean that all mavericks are right, though.  Flat Earthers make the exact same claims, for example. I once met someone who claimed that the Morrigan was a sweet, nurturing mother goddess and not the war goddess that literally every other account in existence gives.  I was not inclined to believe this was an accurate interpretation just because it went against convention.   Don't let a maverick idea take hold just because you like the sound of it and it flouts convention, compare and contrast with multiple sources.   

 

Posted by: @toadstoolwe

This leads to the theory that King Tutankhamen was NOT the strapping youth we see in tomb art and statues,

 

I believe that this has been established fact for a while.  Akhenaten is theorized to have possibly had acromegaly. 

 

Posted by: @shiva

There is no reason that anyone (everyone) cannot attain Maat status in their lives.

The Maatians and Chaotes would agree with this, all Aeons are accessible in the here and now. 

 

 

 


   
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This does not mean that all mavericks are right, though.  Flat Earthers make the exact same claims, for example. I once met someone who claimed that the Morrigan was a sweet, nurturing mother goddess and not the war goddess that literally every other account in existence gives.  I was not inclined to believe this was an accurate interpretation just because it went against convention.   Don't let a maverick idea take hold just because you like the sound of it and it flouts convention, compare and contrast with multiple sources.   

 

True.  I never said that I believe Dimitrios T. assertions, but I do find them intriguing, and thought provoking.  Whether he is a self-taught mariner, or a professor of Egyptology, he is definitely a breath of fresh air.  Discoveries are still to be made in Egypt that will, I am sure shake-up the status quo.


   
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Posted by: @katrice

I believe that this has been established fact for a while.  Akhenaten is theorized to have possibly had acromegaly. 

 

Again, you are correct.  When I visited the old Cairo Museum of Antiquities, and saw King Tutankhamun collection, he had a huge trove of canes and walking sticks.  True, these canes and staffs were signs of status, but it is believed that he was so crippled, that he was required to walk with canes in both hands.  He also had an overbite.  The idealized images of him painted in his tomb would magically be brought to life as he entered the Field of Reeds.  In Ancient Egypt, art was not for the living, but for the dead.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

True.  I never said that I believe Dimitrios T. assertions, but I do find them intriguing, and thought provoking.  Whether he is a self-taught mariner, or a professor of Egyptology, he is definitely a breath of fresh air.  Discoveries are still to be made in Egypt that will, I am sure shake-up the status quo.

 

That could be said for about any field.  

 

I find the people like RTC and Amado Crowley intriguing and thought provoking, but that doesn't mean that I believe them, or would argue for their veracity.

 


   
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@katrice It's a free country, do what thou wilt


   
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People who, in their interior development, make it into the Horus Aeon then find life is a battle. Some folks, with well-grounded DNA, take the world by storm; they become rich, famous, and powerful. Do they have problems?

Other folks look around and say, "I'm getting out!" These people then have problems. It's part of the Path.

People who are 50-something, and still live with one or more parents cannot be classified as having entered their own, personal Aeon of Horus. There are other categories that do not qualify.

Sometimes a person fights the good fight, maybe with dirty tricks, and he or she comes to the point where the next Aeon looks better. They start looking around in Tao-Teh, Dogschain, and Zen, or some other perspective that might help conquer step number two. Two? Yeah ...

Sit still
Stop thinking

   
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Posted by: @shiva

Sit still
Stop thinking

Which is one of the most essential parts of Thelemic practice anyway, to the point of being in Crowley's De Cultu regimen.  

"Finally, exercise constantly the Eight Limbs of Yoga. And so shalt thou come to the End." 


   
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@ignant666 If you, or anyone else is interested, Dimitrios Timijopulos is having an open forum discussion of his article "Analyzing the Sodom Story"  It's inreal time, so you can commeent on it, and he will respond.  (It's on the Academia Website) Here's your chance to tell him off.  He has Rabbi's pissing their pants over it.


   
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Posted by: @toadstoolwe

Here's your chance to tell him off. 

Thanx for the tip, but i will be too busy alphabetizing my sock drawer to participate.


   
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@ignant666 Oh yuck-yuck.


   
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Just to try to move things a little more back on topic, I want to clarify that, while the Aeons in history represent cultural shifts, in essence they, like they do when applied to human development, more accurately represent shifts in consciousness. The changes we effect in the world have their origins within our consciousness, and what we effect in the world in turn affects our development and can lead to further changes within. The development of language makes a good example of this. 


   
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@katrice Well said!


   
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There's been a few mentions of The Path recently, on one thread or another. I just came across a picture by Gustav Dore that he undoubtedly captured from the akashic recording studios and then made into a woodcut impression. You may notice that in the lower stages of the path, it is very narrow and pity not the fallen.

the path

 


   
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