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christibrany
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09/05/2020 11:40 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

What happens as one "falls" asleep can be rather interesting, especially if one is doing some concentration or a similar practice.

Enter the Mauve Zone.

 

@michael-staley

?

🙂

 

'Mind awake-Body Asleep' is of course a pre-requisite for true OOBE's. 

 

In the in-between stage one may see many astral visions or even be transported elsewhere.

See 'The Art of Dreaming' 

 

 


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The HGA of a Duck
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10/05/2020 1:10 am  
Posted by: @christibrany

They taste good though

😟

I agree they don't tend to make the best pets but once you've kept some you get quite attached to them even if they are a bit annoying. The females are very loud and the drakes get a bit "vicious" in the spring/summer (its more comical than vicious as they can't really do much serious harm).


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gravunity
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10/05/2020 3:42 am  
Posted by: @christibrany
Posted by: @shiva

What happens as one "falls" asleep can be rather interesting, especially if one is doing some concentration or a similar practice.

Enter the Mauve Zone.

@michael-staley

?

🙂

'Mind awake-Body Asleep' is of course a pre-requisite for true OOBE's. 

In the in-between stage one may see many astral visions or even be transported elsewhere.

See 'The Art of Dreaming' 

Enter Silberer's autosymbolism, surely?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Silberer

93'z et al,
G.


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fraterphoebus
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13/05/2020 11:15 pm  

Liber AL is an esoteric, not an exoteric text, so it cannot be taken at face value. In fact we should urge quite strongly against taking it at face value, given some of the content in Chapter III!

Important to note that while all dictated by AIWAZ (whoever that may be), the speaker in each chapter is different - I: Nuit, II: Hadit, III: Ra-Hoor-Khuit. So, each offers different but complementary perspectives. Where there is apparent contradiction, as there often is in Crowley's esoteric writings, this is an invitation to the reader to solve the puzzle. When we find the nuance of interpretation which reconciles the contradiction, we find a deeper meaning in the text which can also be used to unlock or shed new light on other passages. Thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis.

If you haven't, I highly recommend reading The Book of Lies. It will help immensely in developing this mode of thought and also happens to be the most fiendishly clever, entertaining and complete compendium of Crowley's philosophy I've encountered.


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Shiva
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14/05/2020 3:15 am  
Posted by: @fraterphoebus

Important to note that while all dictated by AIWAZ (whoever that may be)

Not quite all. Some lines clearly are from the scribe, usually asking questions.

Of course, one could assume that the scribe merely thought these lines. Then Aiwass, assuredly whoever that might be, picks up on these thoughts and dictates them ... so that the scribe can write them down.

Posted by: @fraterphoebus

I highly recommend reading The Book of Lies.

Yes. Thank you, and welcome to the club. Both Ignant and I have specifically reck-o-mended this book, twice each, within the span of the present Aeon of Lockdown, Shut Up, Get Out.

Lies is more like Tune in, turn on, drop out, and there's a rumor/rumour floating around that says it is more understandable than AL.

 

 


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