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Set-Tetu-Ra
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02/03/2020 4:07 pm  

In AL we generally accept that Aiwaz is speaking on behalf of three other beings - Nuit, Hadit, and Ra. Crowley called these three literary devices in some cases, but also seemed to think Aiwaz was an objectively existent entity. Just a passing thought I had was what if AL is the book of a single God - Aiwaz - using literary devices to describe various aspects of itself?

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"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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02/03/2020 4:22 pm  

Amicus, you discovered exactly what happened. Log it in your journal and Dwtl.

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02/03/2020 6:50 pm  
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

what if AL is the book of a single God - Aiwaz - using literary devices to describe various aspects of itself?

What if Aiwass/Aiwaz/I-was was simply a mask over the None, True, "God" that is Nothing?

That is: No name, no form, no words. Nothing.

We are able to peer into various dimensions, even here on LAShTAL, which normally runs along in reasonable Hod mode. Politics and certain forms of drunkenness or insanity can push the discussions over to Netzach. When any two cultures, egos, or schools of thought clash, we take the elevator down to Yesod.

Sometimes the banter will fade, and a few gems will shine through from Tiphareth. When two or three heavyweights step into the Octagon, the arena of Geburah is opened (coronavirus does not travel over the www). Examples include: Ignant666 vs RTC. Los vs anyone with any ideas. Currently showing. RuneLogix vs Shiva's style. We rarely hear from Chesed these days. The Moderator Exemptus will give updates, warnings, and can lock threads and expel disturbed members; he will comment from time to time.

The Magister is hidden. I suspect his vehicle is EOL. If he speaks, we all know our reality is about to be transformed.

Now, to be butt bent blunt: These matters of Aiwass, God, gods, Atma, True Self, etc, are all supra-rational concepts that will not fit into any of the lesser seven spheres (without evoking its opposite). So you, or me, or any otherguess ass, can run our minds and come up with the most fabulous explanations of what is who.

The term "praeter-human" is an excuse, not a description.


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The HGA of a Duck
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02/03/2020 6:58 pm  

Flipping the understanding of AL

Yes, nicely put. I can appreciate the word "flip", I believe this kind of process is mentioned right there on the first page: "The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs". These beings are just "literary devices" when read and are "flipped" into "Gods" when understood.

As a side note, Aiwass is the messenger god here. This makes him related to Thoth in some way.


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christibrany
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02/03/2020 7:05 pm  

What I would like to know, is how kebabs relate to khabs? 

Also the pronunciation 'ku' in portuguese is a naughty word. 

 


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02/03/2020 7:12 pm  

And few of us want the kebabs in the ku. Same in word in French BTW.


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02/03/2020 7:13 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

What if Aiwass/Aiwaz/I-was was simply a mask over the None, True, "God" that is Nothing?

Better yet, what if Aiwass were the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat as stated in Liber L? People keep creating new definitions where none are needed.

 


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Set-Tetu-Ra
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02/03/2020 7:14 pm  
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Posted by: @shiva

What if Aiwass/Aiwaz/I-was was simply a mask over the None, True, "God" that is Nothing?

Better yet, what if Aiwass were the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat as stated in Liber L? People keep creating new definitions where none are needed.

 

He is, but he's the minister of the Aeon, not the God imo. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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Set-Tetu-Ra
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02/03/2020 7:17 pm  

For an example of my thinking: Nuit in Ch.I says "seek me only", but there's also Hadit and Ra. AL teaches to enjoy life as well, not just to immediately dissolve - that happens upon death. So if this is Nuit herself then her ideas are contradicted elsewhere in the book. If "seek me only" applies to Aiwaz, however, then there is no contradiction, for he's describing aspects of himself. 

 

Idk. I think out loud. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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02/03/2020 8:02 pm  
Posted by: @herupakraath

Better yet, what if Aiwass were the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat as stated in Liber L? People keep creating new definitions where none are needed.

Well, yes, but HPK is still a name, and therefore is merely a mental concept ... as opposed to nothing itself. Your ending, "where none is needed." pretty well sums up my point.

Now, if you want to insist on a specific title or name (ie.e. "minister" - "hpk") of any kind or concept, that's okay. You well may become "a leader of a school of thought," and you can look forward to finding out it's all illusion.

Did you know that Adi-da, who was trying to get the above concept over to his group, unsuccessfully, just "gave up" and fell down dead in their midst. No pulse, no heartbeat, no breathing. A while later he came back, then shriveled into a corpslike state, from which he continued teaching. Before and After ...

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Adi Da and Adidam: Surrender at the Master's Feet

 

Anyway, I never fell down dead, except once - as reported in my newest, upcoming book, with pictures and Comic Sans MS font usage for cartoon figures, where my death is not related to explaining not (LA). But then Adi-da, who was born one month after me - in N.J., died dead a few years ago ... and I'm still opening my Eye on any fixed mental concept.

This is, of course, disturbing for people with fixed concepts. So I soften the blow, like in Ai-ki-dow, by trying to apply humor, like cartoons, spread out among authoritative, mental constructs that serve as waypoints on the cosmic journey into Naught. And still be here at the same time.

Except when someone throws a sloppy punch from Geburah.

So, yeah: AL = LA. That works for me.

Let's stroll on together to the next pile-up Pylon.

 

 

 

 


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christibrany
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02/03/2020 8:41 pm  

@ignant666

 

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I think AC liked kebabs in the ku but not in the khabs. 

Behold it is my meat spread over you. 

 

 

OK thats enough Chris. 

 

 


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ignant666
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02/03/2020 8:46 pm  

I did say "few", no "no one", but still i think even those who like a bit of meat back there might balk at the skewers.

For the non-Portuguese (or French) speakers, in both languages, "cul" (pronounced "ku") means the ol' vas nefandum.


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The HGA of a Duck
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03/03/2020 5:39 pm  

@christibrany @ignant666

The universal humour that crosses all borders: "There is no bond that can unite the divided but arse jokes"

 


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christibrany
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03/03/2020 5:44 pm  
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@christibrany @ignant666

The universal humour that crosses all borders: "There is no bond that can unite the divided but arse jokes"

 

All else is a curse. 


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