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I read that some Occultist claimed that the Duke of Edinburgh( R.I.P. Sir) was the international head of all Masonic groups including the O.T.O. and the A'A'.

 

Bullshit or not? 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Posted by: @dom

I read that some Occultist claimed that the Duke of Edinburgh( R.I.P. Sir) was the international head of all Masonic groups including the O.T.O. and the A'A'.

 

Bullshit or not? 

Bullshit, obviously.

Here is his Masonic affiliation -

"HRH Prince Philip, was passed and raised in Navy Lodge No. 2612 in the Metropolitan Grand Lodge of London, UGLE. Despite never advancing further than Master Mason he was a regular paid up member of the Lodge until his death."

https://www.facebook.com/masonicnetwork/photos/a.10150827409836512/10157965593231512/

Of course if you are determined to believe in a conspiracy, then of what use are facts and published statements? 


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the Duke of Edinburgh( R.I.P. Sir) was the international head of all Masonic groups including the O.T.O. and the A'A'.

Why yes, of course he was. I thought that everyone knew this.

It is commendable that Price Philip found time to run all these "Masonic" groups, what with his huge responsibilities being in charge of all illegal drug trafficking worldwide.

Those lizard people are nothing if not energetic.


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Here is a secretly-taken photograph of his wife, Queen Elizabeth, known as "Big Liz", also known in international drug-trafficking circles as "The Enforcer", machine gunning some drug business rivals:

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Posted by: @dom

I read that some Occultist claimed that the Duke of Edinburgh( R.I.P. Sir) was the international head of all Masonic groups including the O.T.O. and the A'A'.

 

Bullshit or not? 

Bullshit, obviously.

Here is his Masonic affiliation -

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What about the O.T.O. and the A'A' are they Masonic groups?   Furthermore why do some writers refer to Crowley as 'Sir' is it because they believe he was actually knighted?  

 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Posted by: @dom

Bullshit or not?

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What about the O.T.O. and the A'A' are they Masonic groups?   Furthermore why do some writers refer to Crowley as 'Sir' is it because they believe he was actually knighted?  

 

I'm not an expert on Freemasonry, but I'm confident that A:.A:. can not be considered in any way a Masonic group.

O.T.O originated as an "Irregular" Masonic group. Many OTO members are also Freemasons, but I don't know the general feeling of Regular Masons towards a group like OTO. 

My guess is that it is like the feeling that Anglicans and Catholics have towards irregular or "wandering" bishops of various lineages. A general disdain, don't take it seriously. Given the track record, why would they?  


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 Furthermore why do some writers refer to Crowley as 'Sir' is it because they believe he was actually knighted?  

 

He claims that he was knighted by... going by memory here, "Don Pedro," during the Spanish civil war. I'll find the reference.

Not the later Spanish civil war, which resulted in Franco's victory and long-lasting regime. But some earlier one.


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Long article on AC and the Freemasons, from a Masonic site, by "Bro. Martin P. Starr", the well-known author on Thelemic topics, who is a legit, non-"clandestine" Mason, unlike AC:

https://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/crowley.html


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some earlier one.

To say he was involved in a Spanish civil war is a bit of an exaggeration:

I actually joined a conspiracy on behalf of Don Carlos, obtained a commission to work a machine gun, took pains to make myself a first-class rifle shot and studied drill, tactics and strategy. However, when the time came for the invasion of Spain, Don Carlos got cold feet. [Hag, ch 13, p. 121]

His "knighting" was indeed part of this debacle:

I obtained the honour of knighthood [footnote: There is a great deal more to this story; but i may not tell it- yet.] from one of Don Carlos' lieutenants.  [ibid., first words of ch. 14]

Interesting to note that he goes on to say that

It is part of the legitimist theory that the sovereign had abrogated to himself the monopoly of conferring spurs, while on the other hand a woman could not confer knighthood. All Victorian creations are invalid.

I imagine that "Big Liz The Enforcer" might have a thing or to to say about that!

Surprised that david would not remember these details from a book he has read hundreds of times!


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@ignant666

Great, thanks! I forgot to look it up.

Don CARLOS, then. 

I'm sure I've read a more detailed account of this affair. Maybe in Churton. 


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Interesting to note that he goes on to say that

It is part of the legitimist theory that the sovereign had abrogated to himself the monopoly of conferring spurs, while on the other hand a woman could not confer knighthood. All Victorian creations are invalid.

I imagine that "Big Liz The Enforcer" might have a thing or to to say about that!

Surprised that david would not remember these details from a book he has read hundreds of times!

Yes, I suppose he wanted to magically invalidate every knighthood Victoria conferred. But his legitimist theory would also invalidate Elizabeth I's dubbings.

I'm not sure what he's talking about, really.


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Great, thanks! I forgot to look it up.

Don CARLOS, then. 

I'm sure I've read a more detailed account of this affair. Maybe in Churton. 

Yes, Churton, Aleister Crowley: The Biography, starting page 39.

Nothing new on AC particularly, just good background on this Carlist conspiracy, and speculation on Crowley's role.


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Yes full bullshit for Phil "the Mountbanke Manikin" Battenberg, aka Windsor, the Royal parasite and consort was too dumb, devious and devoid of any higher aspiration in life so represented by the Argentum Astrum or Ordo Templi Orientalis, than to be an Episcopal cuck...and imported stud who could handsomely fill all sorts of costumes relative to the job...

The aspirations of Philip Andrew of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderberg-Glücksburg; His Royal Highness Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark; the Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, and Baron Greenwich; Knight of the Order of Australia; and Member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council;who was husband of Queen Elizabeth, all came down to what he wished after he died.

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

Well I think the one walking totem pole got his wish with the Corona... badgers down at old Porton Downs, not batty stories from a Fu Manchu novel...

Actually it was King Edward VII who was Masonic Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England, who was behind the Entente Cordial, and who thus created the conditions that gave us World War I....but that is another thread...

 

 


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Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

an Episcopal cuck...and imported stud who could handsomely fill all sorts of costumes

Careful!  Your words are being broadcast. They'll have you down in the dungeon for this. Windsor Dungeon. 

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"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

Please cite a reference for your "quote." Please note that Members are prohibited, restricted, and restrained from posting Fake News, false quotes, etc.

 


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Our Woodchuck Comrade is correct as to "Phil The Greek" having said he hoped to be reincarnated as a deadly virus:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/prince-philip-deadly-virus/

 


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"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

 

 

Sounds kinda amoral.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Actually it was King Edward VII who was Masonic Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England,...

 

 

Oh, really?   

 

If that's the case then why is it so far out that the Duke of Edinburgh should have been also?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Actually it was King Edward VII who was Masonic Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England,...

 

 

Oh, really?   

 

If that's the case then why is it so far out that the Duke of Edinburgh should have been also?

Because he wasn't. 


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Our Woodchuck Comrade is correct as to "Phil The Greek ..."

Oh. OK. Drop the charge of Fake Quote and bring in the charge of a Disgustingly True Quote.

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then why is it so far out that the Duke of Edinburgh should have been also?

Possibly because Ed the Viith is historically listed as being the Kingpin ... while Phil is not?

Any influence wielded by anyone other than BafometR, during his time in office, even a King or a Prince, is unthinkable (except by the feeble minded). There is, perhaps, some abstract notion whereby the secular guys get to pretend to be in charge of ALL secret and serious Orders on the planet, but that's just wishful thinking.

As for the A.'.A.'., why would anybody want to be in charge of a non-secret and non-profit collection of no more than three people ("Nobody shall know diddly about anybody other than the glorious adept who introduced anyone and the unsuspecting student one has taken aboard"? - One Star in Sight, paraphrased edition (c)2021. 

But the really real question is: Who is this "occultist" who made the claim/accusation in the first place?

 


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Possibly because Ed the Viith is historically listed as being the Kingpin ... while Phil is not?

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Oh you mean it goes public?  I thought it was all shrouded in secrecy.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Possibly because Ed the Viith is historically listed as being the Kingpin ... while Phil is not?

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Oh you mean it goes public?  I thought it was all shrouded in secrecy.

Dom here is from UGLE itself regarding Edward VII Freemasonic status

https://www.ugle.org.uk/9-famous-freemasons/188-king-edward-vii

Note that the Masonic compass and square has been turned into a modern logo that reminds me of the Rolling Stones tongue and lips logo, but without the tongue, and here without the G in the midst

If there is no letter, and no tongue, is there a heart or word?!

Unless ugle has any significance other than rhyming with google and ugly....

Also note no Thelemic greetings present either...

So here is a 93!

HG


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I thought it was all shrouded in secrecy.

Only part of it, like the secret Words and backroom deals. The personalities are often cited in the papers and how does the anonymous "ocultist" know who the godfather mason is, if it's shroulded (properly)?


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