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RuneLogIX
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24/07/2020 9:15 pm  

Is anyone aware of Thelemic research regarding the Assyrian gods Ishtar (Ianna) and Sin?

"Every man and woman is a star."

I thought "isastar" sounds phonetically close to Ishtar. Ishtar is known for being the goddess of all things love, sex, power, and war. The notion that "Every man and woman is Ishtar" is sublime and I admit quite a bit unorthodox.

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"The word of Sin is Restriction."

Sin is actually the name of the male moon god of ancient Assyria whose consort is Ishtar. 

Far from being a literal interpretation of the verse, a deeper layer of meaning could be "The Logos of Sin is Restriction" which probably relates restriction *as karma* rather than any quaint narrow definition of Thelemic morality as described virtually everywhere.

Also curious if anyone has research on 27. The reason being that 9 *3 = 27. The most apropos connection I can find is that there are 27 books in the New Testament. Although there are some references to Ishtar in the New Testament nothing strikes out to me in the KJV about Ishtar and the number 27.  

Also one final bit of the mystery of 27 is that it is the cube of 3 x 3 x 3. Thanks for reading.

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24/07/2020 10:09 pm  
Posted by: @runelogix

"Every man and woman is a star."

I thought "isastar" sounds phonetically close to Ishtar. Ishtar is known for being the goddess of all things love, sex, power, and war. The notion that "Every man and woman is Ishtar" is sublime and I admit quite a bit unorthodox.

But it wouldn't be "Every man and every woman is Ishtar", though, but "Every man and woman is Astar[-te?]".  (Does that still unorthodoxically count?)

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Moving on,

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24/07/2020 10:18 pm  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

"Every man and every woman is Ishtar"

Shurely sho. Ash the bishop shaid to the actresh.


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25/07/2020 3:17 am  
Posted by: @runelogix

the mystery of 27

In mundane numerology (1-9), 27 is the age where one completes their "first third" of their life. (At 28, the cartilaginous ends of the long bones seal over, and one's height is "fixed forever" as they start their new "second third").

At one time, I read all about Ishtar and the Sumerian paradigm, but I never retained much of that because it's not reinforced by references in other systems (like Thelema). I always liked the picture of the bearded guys in the flying ship, but I can't find it (the new disinformation act, no doubt), but I found this interesting pic of some guy talking to a Horus-type bird about their Tree of Life ...

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25/07/2020 1:38 pm  
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But it wouldn't be "Every man and every woman is Ishtar", though, but "Every man and woman is Astar[-te?]".  (Does that still unorthodoxically count?)

No because you wouldn't have to figure it on your own. And just to be clear this isn't meant to be a literally true suggestion but a metaphysical one. I have seen it suggested elsewhere that "all of humanity is Ra Hoor Khuit" and that argument does not appeal to me but reconsidered as children of Ishtar/Sin/Babalon/Scarlet Woman', that makes a whole not more sense.

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25/07/2020 5:12 pm  
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reconsidered as children of Ishtar/Sin/Babalon/Scarlet Woman', that makes a whole not more sense.

I think that's the plot to Neon Genesis Evangelion.

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Sin is actually the name of the male moon god of ancient Assyria whose consort is Ishtar. 

The only genealogy of which I'm aware that connects Sin to Ishtar describes the latter as daughter to the former. If it wasn't a mistype, I would be interested in seeing where you got the idea.

Here's a resource for anyone in the thread who wants an overview of the Mesopotamian pantheon: http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/index.html


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25/07/2020 10:35 pm  
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Here's a resource ...

And a good one it is. It told me ...

"Inana (Sumerian)/Ištar (Akkadian) is among the most important deities and the most important goddess in the Mesopotamian pantheon. She is primarily known as the goddess of sexual love but is equally prominent as the goddess of warfare. In her astral aspect, Inana/Ištar is the planet Venus, the morning and the evening star."

inanna sumerian god annunaki1

I am getting a "Nuit" drift here ... with Marduk being "Hadit-like."

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26/07/2020 1:59 am  
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I am getting a "Nuit" drift here ... with Marduk being "Hadit-like.

Compare the 'salt sea' Tiamat and the 'sweet sea' Abzu, the mingling of which birth the gods. Marduk later rises to slay Tiamat after the death of Abzu.


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26/07/2020 4:09 am  
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Marduk later rises to slay Tiamat

That would be Ra-Hoor. I will attempt to locate those more primordials folks ...

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Tiamat and Abzu

 


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26/07/2020 4:59 am  
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Also curious if anyone has research on 27...

...Ishtar and the number 27.

Is there some reason for why you are bringing up this number now? Can you give some info on why there may be a connection between Ishtar and that number?

Speaking of just the number 27, the most obvious Thelemic connection to it would be Liber Trigrammaton and the Trigrammaton arrangement of the English Alphabet. You may know one of the members here has done a lot of work on this.

I've messed around with this number along with 26, as they seem like the 2 most obvious numbers related to ciphering the English Alphabet.

(an excuse to spam my "beloved" infographic again, related to 27)

 

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Also one final bit of the mystery of 27 is that it is the cube of 3 x 3 x 3

I'd be interested to know what mysteries you may have found relating to this number.

I'm usually too lazy to make many "high-effort" posts but I have one of these planned involving the 3x3x3 cube, hopefully soon.


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26/07/2020 5:33 am  

@djedi: Yes, "the two primeval seas, the salt sea Tiamat and the sweet sea Abzu, mingling their waters together to create the gods ..."


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31/07/2020 5:22 pm  
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I'm usually too lazy to make many "high-effort" posts but I have one of these planned involving the 3x3x3 cube, hopefully soon.

Nothing profound per se, just that 333 connects to Choronzon.

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31/07/2020 7:24 pm  

Saturn Cube?

One does tend to Disperse some Parts after Death

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I'm usually too lazy to make many "high-effort" posts but I have one of these planned involving the 3x3x3 cube, hopefully soon.

Nothing profound per se, just that 333 connects to Choronzon.

 


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