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Horemakhet
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I have recently become enthralled with a new current. It seems that Crowley understood something that is very provocative. Much has been written on the matter, but yet I have found that very few are actively pursuing the same. Throughout history we have examples of those on the Path who were involved directly with these women - indeed, there were institutions that were delegated the mystery- Well, I am talking about " The Scarlet Woman" my friends. The tendency with this subject in these circles is to view her as a Therion concept, but it has come to my attention that it is much more. This Goddess and her Priestesses are amongst us if you look for Her. I am interested in starting a conversation on this matter, and would be thankfull if any of you would like to share your experiences here, or provide links for further study...


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Well, I am talking about " The Scarlet Woman" my friends. The tendency with this subject in these circles is to view her as a Therion concept, but it has come to my attention that it is much more.

Kenneth Grant postulates that Crowley's system is a revival of ancient practices dating from Sumer.

My understanding is that The Scarlet Woman and The Great Beast are posts rather than specific individuals. That is they describe certain functions related to the Great Work.

Jane Wolf describes her vision of what it is to be The Scarlet Woman in her biography put out by Red Flame.


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I have felt for a few years that She is the key to Initiation, so that is why I want to see what the rest of you have to say about this. I have to say that when you enter the Silver Star you are presented with particular Women, and it took me a little while to figure out what was happening. I have figured out that she presents herself in strange ways. I think that AC was always chasing after Her, and I find that now I do too. There are ancient origins to this practise, and I have studied some of them. I want you boys and girls out there in cyberland to share experiences. We are talking about the holy mystery of the sexes,and what happens when we approach it from another way..


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I am no expert I have a limited understanding of Al. So I am going to give you my idea of the Scarlet Woman...

Her surname is not O'Hara. Southern humor..... 🙂

Okay so any woman worth her salt can chanel the goddess in her most primal form, call Her what you will the names don't matter just the intent. Some believe in ancient times priestesses and prostitutes were much the same. Such as in the Temples of Aphrodite.

In some of the things that I have read and now I am not sure where there was Crowley talking about sex and how an O can get you closer to the divine. See Nine Inch Nails song Closer.

I am most courious as to the tap danceing around the subject though. Is it the ritual sexual experience, or the power that attracts you.

Can you tell that I am not well versed in Crowly High Magic or what?

I think that sex has nothing to do with spiritual enlightenment, and ultimate re-union with the divine sorce. The Goddes may show you the path but it is you that must tread it.

My advice: step softy and carry a big stick.


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Thanks for the reply. I find it amusing that you bring up the song "Closer". No, that is not the kind of encounter that I am specificaly refering to ( for it is but one degree ), nor is my motivation based exclusively on the other points that you mentioned.

Having said that - What I would love to read is yours and other's personal experiences in this area. You say to "carry a big stick". i love that quote. Why did you write that?


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I am doing some "anthropological and linguistic" researchs about this. I don't know is this interesting for anyone, but I am going to publish article about this soon.


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I cant wait to read your article.. let us know when Frater_HPK


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Well, I need some time to finish this and I think it will first appear in Croatian in one of their thelemic magazines. The point is that in the pre-patriarchal time, prior to the time Slavs come to the Balkan, in the region existed female based priesterhood called Babas. My idea is that witchcraft derived from them, and that it is influenced via Anatloa. I don't connect this with Lilith but with one other middle eastern Goddess. In this light Jack Parsons just re-contacted ancient Goddess Oriented current. Also, I am traing to connect this with medieval Bogomiles of Bosnia. When I finish this I will see where I will publish this in English.

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I cant wait to read your article.. let us know when Frater_HPK

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I spear headed the topic as "Lillith" for fun. I know that there are many names that we can deal with Her here. i have been out of cyberspace for awhile and it made my heart glad to see the thread that I started carried on in the terms that it was started. i asked for inspiration for further study and HPK and my other Fraters and Sorors are here.Cool.

I digress...

In another thread that I was originally happy to discuss- the "Confessions"- Paul closed because of too much political mumbo jumbo. But in that there was this debate about "scholarship" as opposed to being a real (dont laugh now) "Magickian". Aside from some unfortunates, the second thread yeilded the fruit we were waiting for. Thank You Paul!

Back to Lillith...

What we need is Theory and Practice. We can assemble the books. We will write what needs to be written. This is an area of study that AC was at pains with, and the work needs to be continued. Should we dare to catergorise Her? Can we call Her by an ancient name? By many names? But why did he focus on egyptian and sumerian names?

Oh...I fear the dreaded "Scholar-Ship" creeping up amongst us. Fuck it. Man the Oars!


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By many names!

She's not necessarily "dark". From personal experience, She can manifest within love and respect -- another "incompatibility" to ponder?


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Well that all depends my Friend upon what statute of limitations you wish to display. She is Dark. We could all write Poetry upon the deft slappiness of Her slippers in the morning Sun, but She is what She is.


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Yes!
But, your into depth here (?). Not "all" have experienced "the dreams" -- personal introduction, as it were (and dark they certainly are!).
I'm most certainly interested in your "interest"!

Michael


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I have a poem :
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Somewhere… There…along an Eternal Ocean, Where Mists of Time lilt Away… Within the very Fires of Devotion, an Apparition of Evening took bay – Whence She Came : Arraigning Silvered jewels, Scarlet gowns, Visions of Pearl;- An Halo for all She’d Sorrowed. - Out There… outside MoonLight’s penitent Gaze; the Serpent waves of ebony Hair have sowed seeds of Stars in a Midnight Raze- …

My Dark one. My Only one.

There is no Dusk, and there is no Dawn, only Black Heaven affixed around Her candescence : My Heart sinks into the Immure which guards Her Presence - I am not Now what I will become to Be ; Those Deeds will be Undone before they can Murder me - For I can see the bloodied Crucifix between Your Breasts : - You are the Betrayer & Inquisitor - & It is I that am Your Savior…

My Dark One. My Only One.

As Her blue lids Eclipse, A vagabond Serenity encloses the Prefecture of Her Kiss, and all that once lived dies softly in arms of Her caress. I have been Born to love Her once again - My Blood is the Sea that She Parts, Her Holy Water is the Draught that imparts Pain & Wisdom to those who dare seek Her- For under the diaphanous Folds of Her Desire, her Lover Expires…

My Dark One. My Only One.

Hallowed halls behind Your Eyes, where the dread Succubus come to Die, and the bloated wombs lay eggs for Our Child to suck upon; The Dream that You gave to me lifts it’s Veil, and the Kiss of Life becomes the Kiss of Death. Between the mirrors of Your splintered Reflexion my Heart burns with the direst Affection – All that You are is Everything I long for- Oh Lonely, Lonely, Loneliest Star…

My Dark One. My Only One.

The Bed of Sabotage for you and me my Love, is pulsing the Blood of Others that came before Us. Faith in Doubt, and Doubt in Faith – Twin mystery of our Tragic fate. One lifetime cannot hold Us - For you to me grow more Beautiful with each passing Age, and though Time may change allegiance to each of These, your Sacred Heart is always before me. - I bow to your Divinity, my Soul and Queen…

My Dark One. My Only One.

The Summer comes in wisps and whispers; Some are gone who should be with Us. We cannot remember their names - Their Souls have changed- I ask not for forgiveness. I ask for Your patience. I am Bent and Sore and lie upon this shore of Rock lifting our offspring to the Skies. She cries for her Mother, and Her Mother is a Whore…

My Dark One, My Only One

BABALON


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Wow thats a very inspired piece of writing there Horemakhet.. 😮 In my humble opinion; I love the verse: "As Her blue lids Eclipse," very cool..


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It is my belief and understanding that the "scarlet woman" is an entity from the "other side". and she does indeed play a key role in initiation. as for her being dark, following this path is the path of darkness though this darkness is so unimaginably dark that it appears bright. looking for her is pointless for she is in every woman. if you look in the darkest recesses of your"self" it is there you will find her.


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That's an interesting view.


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"Omnihilus" wrote:
That's an interesting view.

Moderator's Note

I'm not entirely surprised that you consider it an "interesting view" given that you're both using the same IP address.

I detect a 'sock puppet' and require a public explanation here. If none is forthcoming then your accounts will be closed.

How is life for you both in Jeffersonville, Indiana?

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We're both different people that live in the same house.
and we don't live in Indiana we're in Kentucky.
Our pics are actually of us edited on photoshop...we are 2 different people
if 2 people aren't allowed to use the same computer here..then i dunno what to say


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Actually i do. This threat and ultimatum with no regard to manners or tact is paltry. Close the accounts.

Love is the law, Love under will.


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"Omnihilus" wrote:
Close the accounts.

So, just to confirm: you're two people, you 'both' post in the same writing style from the same computer and you speak for both when you ask for the closure of the accounts?

Okay.

Perhaps we can return to the topic now.

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Fascinating prose.

My experience has been a combination of admiration and angst... I used to get email from her until she discovered i wasn't a one woman type of guy. It's been overcast, punctuated by periodic rays of sonshine ever since... *sigh*

😉


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Thomas Karlsson - Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic is a great book that deals with Lilith from a qabalistic perspective.
www.ajnabound.com

Concerning techniques related to the work with some of the aspects of Lilith, namely the Incubi and the Succubi: do some research on the christian mystic and magician Abbé (Joseph-Antoine) Boullan.
People speaking swedish should definately read the swedish translation of his biography by Bricaud, published by Sitra Ahra:
www.sitraahra.se


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"flux" wrote:
Fascinating prose.

My experience has been a combination of admiration and angst... I used to get email from her until she discovered i wasn't a one woman type of guy. It's been overcast, punctuated by periodic rays of sonshine ever since... *sigh*

😉

Your "joke" falls flat. Why in the world would you claim, even for the sake of humor, that Lilith (or the Scarlet Woman or any other manifestation of this role) is a "one man type of gal"? Your post makes you sound like a sad, rejected boy declaring "well I didn't want her anyway!"


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"mika" wrote:
"flux" wrote:
Fascinating prose.

My experience has been a combination of admiration and angst... I used to get email from her until she discovered i wasn't a one woman type of guy. It's been overcast, punctuated by periodic rays of sonshine ever since... *sigh*

😉

Your "joke" falls flat. Why in the world would you claim, even for the sake of humor, that Lilith (or the Scarlet Woman or any other manifestation of this role) is a "one man type of gal"? Your post makes you sound like a sad, rejected boy declaring "well I didn't want her anyway!"

Greets,

To answer your question: 'Because I can.'

Nothing teaches like personal experience.
Thanks for your interest.

Regards


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The Scarlet Woman always reminded me of the Character "Babylon" in the Book of Revelations. It says in the Book of Revelations the following:

"[3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
[4] And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
[5] And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
[6] And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."

If you notice the woman sitting ontop of the seven headed Beasts' name is Babylon and is wearing scarlet. If you look at the A.'.A.'. Brotherhood Sigil you'll notice it's a septegram with the name "BABALON" written on it, a letter on each point. Sounds to me like it's a sigil representing Babylon writing ontop of the seven headed Beast in Revelations being "The Mother of All Harlots" and drinking the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus.


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"selflessone" wrote:
The Scarlet Woman always reminded me of the Character "Babylon" in the Book of Revelations.

You don't say?!

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"lashtal" wrote:
"selflessone" wrote:
The Scarlet Woman always reminded me of the Character "Babylon" in the Book of Revelations.

You don't say?!

🙄

Well I'm glad you're well-read, makes me proud.


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#1 Listen guy, we don't you to "help us out" with any of this stuff, everyone here already knows everything you've posted. #2 No one asked you for any sort of answer to a question or anything. #3 Take your forum cluttering, thread resurrecting bullshit elsewhere.


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"N.O.X" wrote:
#1 Listen guy, we don't [need] you to "help us out" with any of this stuff, everyone here already knows everything you've posted. #2 No one asked you for any sort of answer to a question or anything. #3 Take your forum cluttering, thread resurrecting bullshit elsewhere.

Ya, I don't get it either. We welcome new people all the time. Many new forum-goers tend to fit right in if they just relax and go with the flow of things. After a while we get to know them, they get to know us, it works out.

Then every once in a while we get someone who shows up and has something to say about everything.

While the excitement and zeal is appreciated, too much is too much. "You can talk all you want, but you don't have to do it all at once."

At the moment, I am sensing the makings of a troll. Hopefully that is not the case.

"Thread necromancy", as it is called when you dig up old threads, is not a common practice here, but when it happens it's usually done with something specific in mind. Just going through every thread in the archives making comments about every thread in the past 5 years may invite more hostility than acceptance.


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I don't understand. The Lady simply said "I am interested in starting a conversation on this matter, and would be thankfull if any of you would like to share your experiences here, or provide links for further study..." and so I decided to offer commentary on the matter.

Nobody ever said there was anything wrong with resurrecting old threads. I don't understand what's with your guy's attitude. It's like Kanye West and Lady Gaga make Thelemite video's based on my Thelemite work and you get all jealous. You guy's need to quit you're bitching and shut the fuck up.


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"selflessone" wrote:
I don't understand. The Lady simply said "I am interested in starting a conversation on this matter, and would be thankfull if any of you would like to share your experiences here, or provide links for further study..." and so I decided to offer commentary on the matter.

Nobody ever said there was anything wrong with resurrecting old threads. I don't understand what's with your guy's attitude. It's like Kanye West and Lady Gaga make Thelemite video's based on my Thelemite work and you get all jealous. You guy's need to quit you're bitching and shut the fuck up.

The question was asked six years ago, genius.


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selflessone,

What? You are babbling about Kanye West and Lady Gaga? They both are fucking terrible musicians. and no one is jealous of you, shit I don't know even who the hell you are and don't really care. I smell a troll too, so you're gonna get the same thing I gave wrwb, Rhubarb, Rhubarb, Rhubarb, until you leave.


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I don't think I've encountered such evil since God knows when. You two are fucking evil as fuck. Eeeviillll....

By the way I don't know what the fuck is Rhubarb. I'm backing up wrwb gonna show him some Love.

"As brothers fight ye!"

Love is the law

You guys are the complete opposite, you're Evol, Evil, Evil...

You know and I just waned to say something else, because I keep getting a lot of shit from Christians, Catholics, and Jehova's Witnesses for not believing in Christ and thinking I'm a Satanist and then I'm come to congregate with my people my fellow Thelemites and I get this treatment.

If you ask me this fighting to me sounds like the result of some sort of curse on our Philosophy Thelema. We have to fight together! I didn't want to say this but those fucking asshole Christians/Catholics/Jehova's Witnesses aren't pussies how they come off as, I heard those bastards know how to give people cancer and all this shit, they keep saying that it's like "End of the world" or something like that and they're giving all of the sinners cancer with their like holy Christ Powers, I'm not even lieing and then I come to gather with my fellow soldiers fighting against these curses and you start treating me like shit.

I think you guys need to snap the fuck out of it and realize there's a real fucking war going on here and we've got a lot of religions to face. How can you guys fucking try and take out one of your own soldiers? That's fucking pathetic.

"50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

52. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

53. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

54. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.

55. Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!

56. Also for beauty's sake and love's!

57. Despise also all cowards; professional soldiers who dare not fight, but play; all fools despise!

58. But the keen and the proud, the royal and the lofty; ye are brothers!

59. As brothers fight ye!" - The Book of the Law

Emphasis on verse 57 and 59. I think you guys are ignoring that. Now I have a humongous fucking Thelemite influence on the whole world. I keep seeing all of these artists depicting all kinds of Thelemite shit in their videos. I think a lot of people could consider me a leader amongst Thelemites.

We have to save all those dumb bastards getting cancer from all these Christian fucks and you stupid idiots are trying to fucking rule me out? What the fuck is wrong with you? We need all the fucking soldiers we can get.

I've got a fucking plan, I'm currently trying to round up all the fucking Thelemites I can get.

I just made this thread on Zoklet last night so we can start congregating and exchanging Magickal secrets so we can all prepare ourselves and defend each other when the "End of the World" shit starts to get even crazier. I also heard these fucking Christian fucks know how to give people heart attacks. We need to start fighting back.

Now whoever is with me I suggest if you've already established yourself as a Thelemite to join my Social Group and join me in the battle against asshole religions. Who's with me?


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Everybody watch the fuck out for these fucking crazy fuck Jehovah's Witnesses, supposedly if you answer the door to them, they go through you're memory and if they find sins hard enough, they'll fucking start to kill you with all kinds of holy diseases until you pray. You guys have heard of the plagues of Moses right? What makes you think these fucked up Jews are lieing about this shit, the Bible isn't fake a lot of their shit is true, it's just secret you have to just get initiated deep into the church to find all these fucking secrets out.

Here's my thread on Zoklet: http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=2771094#post2771094

Join my team if you're with me.


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Have you ever really thought about what Prayer is? It's just basically a way of kneeling down and begging for mercy for all their sins so they won't fucking die that's all it is.

I'm not gonna fucking let them win. I'm not taking your guys' bullshit you need to snap the fuck out of it and start gathering all the fucking soldiers you can fucking get. I'm not letting these bitches win, snap the fuck out of it!


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Evil...me? I'm a dick I'll admit that, but to be called "Evil"....fuck yeah! Hell, I'll just take that as a compliment. What are babbling about now? First it was some nonsense about Kanye West and Gaga, now its some paranoid shit about Christians causing cancer, and mind reading Jehova's Witnesses....You're delusional and need to seek psychiatric help.

Rhubarb, Rhubarb, Rhubarb....(you don't deserve an explanation)


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"N.O.X" wrote:
Evil...me? I'm a dick I'll admit that, but to be called "Evil"....fuck yeah! Hell, I'll just take that as a compliment. What are babbling about now? First it was some nonsense about Kanye West and Gaga, now its some paranoid shit about Christians causing cancer, mind reading Jehova's Witnesses....You're delusional and need to seek psychiatric help.

You're in denial, consider how seriously people take the Bible. It's not all just fairy tales, they're talking about real shit. They obviously talk about all this kind of fucked up Jewish Magick, I'm not lieing about the cancer, they can literally cause cancer, I've seen the telescreens flash before my eyes. You need to stop bouncing fellow Thelemites, we need all the fucking soldiers we can get so stop being a dick to all the newcomers. I'm taking this shit very seriously. I'm cursing the fuck out of a bunch of Jehova's Witnesses as we speak with the craziest fucking Magick you can think of, I'm not even lieing.

I suggest you start claiming victims and read Chapter III verse 57 again. Try reading some books by Chuch Palahniuk I think he mentions how crazy some people get in his book when they're getting cancer like for instance in this one book called "Choke" it's about how this guy would pretend he was choking at restaurants just pretending just to get attention and help. That's how fucked up he was, it also mentions how he was a sex addict and all this other crazy shit. You need to wake the fuck up.


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I am awake, its 3am here and I should be asleep but I'm having far to much fun fucking with you and being "Evil" as you put it. You really are coming off as a a total loon here. I'm not in denial, you are in a psychotic break it seems. And don't go quoting AL to me you little crazy fucker....

Well, it was fun but I really should be going off to bed. I'm done with you, crazyone, I mean selflessone, I'm sure your account will be deleted by the morning, probably this thread too, so one last time....this is for you: Rhubarb, Rhubarb, Rhubarb!


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Well anyway, any of you who are willing to fight the fight against all evil religions I'm starting an army called "93 Magicians" on my website Volukur.com join me if you're willing to fight!

"50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

52. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

53. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

54. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.

55. Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!

56. Also for beauty's sake and love's!

57. Despise also all cowards; professional soldiers who dare not fight, but play; all fools despise!

58. But the keen and the proud, the royal and the lofty; ye are brothers!

59. As brothers fight ye!" - The Book of the Law

Here's the link to my Thelemite Army:
http://volukur.com/smf2/index.php?action=sgroups;sa=view;id=5

Don't worry I have a lot of defense tactics against them, so if you contact me I'll protect you with my Magick.

If any of you are getting any of this same treatment from people on lashtal.com feel free to post on my website Volukur.com I own it, I created and designed it. It's a nice and friendly enviroment feel free to drop in and post whenever you like. It just opened so it's kind of empty right now, but hopefully soon more people will come in and join.

www.volukur.com/smf2

The Thelema forums are at the bottom.


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I'd stop locking threads and start locking people up.


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"FraterLucius" wrote:
I'd stop locking threads and start locking people up.

This brief extract from the linked blog suggests that you might have a point...(though 'locking up'on its own is no longer the preferred treatment)

"theblog93, June 9 2011" wrote:
Schizophrenia
Nine Nine Nine = 192
Schizophrenia = 192
Schizophrenia is a Holy Mental Disorder characterized by Auditory Hallucinations. I listen to voices all day. Hathor's horns remind me of antenna's.

selflessone, you need to calm down a lot and probably have a quiet chat with someone who is not a 'Thelemite' or a 'Christian' about your worries. I'd suggest that you stop reading AC for a bit too (too many triggers) but doubt that you'd listen.


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So this thread has been resurrected, and the topic has been changed to "all things selflessone"?

Not so selfless.


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It seems like someone's gone off their meds, off their rocker, off on a tangent, or all of the above...


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93,

Okay, I'm bored and dodging Spanish work, so... play time!

"selflessone" wrote:
The Scarlet Woman always reminded me of the Character "Babylon" in the Book of Revelations. It says in the Book of Revelations the following:

Incidentally, the Great Wild Beast from (you guessed it) Revelations has a consort, the Scarlet Woman. Crowley used the name Babalon instead of the spelling Babylon for many reasons. This is nothing new.

"selflessone" wrote:
[Revelation quotes that I think Walterfive would enjoy.]
"selflessone" wrote:
If you notice the woman sitting ontop of the seven headed Beasts' name is Babylon and is wearing scarlet. If you look at the A.'.A.'. Brotherhood Sigil you'll notice it's a septegram with the name "BABALON" written on it, a letter on each point. Sounds to me like it's a sigil representing Babylon writing ontop of the seven headed Beast in Revelations being "The Mother of All Harlots" and drinking the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus.

That's part of the design, of course.

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"lashtal" wrote:
"selflessone" wrote:
The Scarlet Woman always reminded me of the Character "Babylon" in the Book of Revelations.

You don't say?!

🙄

Well I'm glad you're well-read, makes me proud.

This one I'm sure the owner of this site finds very endearing. Why you would attempt to mock the "biggest dog on this porch" though, is beyond me.

"selflessone" wrote:
I don't understand. The Lady simply said "I am interested in starting a conversation on this matter, and would be thankfull if any of you would like to share your experiences here, or provide links for further study..." and so I decided to offer commentary on the matter.

I believe I covered this with the "6 years ago" remark. That the thread is six years old and doesn't contain much information, may indicate that said information can be found elsewhere on this site, or it simply didn't become a popular topic.

At any rate, assuming the original poster didn't learn one single thing about this subject over the last six years is, well, disrespectful.

"selflessone" wrote:
Nobody ever said there was anything wrong with resurrecting old threads. I don't understand what's with your guy's attitude.

You never asked. On top of that, you didn't bring back just one old thread, you brought back a whole slew of them. If you had something about all of these threads you could have assimilated those thoughts, and summed them up in an introductory post, as most new posters do. It's simple forum etiquette, and one that exists on most internet forums.

"selflessone" wrote:
It's like Kanye West and Lady Gaga make Thelemite video's based on my Thelemite work and you get all jealous. You guy's need to quit you're bitching and shut the fuck up.

Okay, selflessone, I'ma let you finish but, WRWB was the best Lashtal troll of all time!

"selflessone" wrote:
I don't think I've encountered such evil since God knows when. You two are fucking evil as fuck. Eeeviillll....

I don't mind being known as a center of pestilence. It's much better than being known as a troll. Why are you so quick to judge? Oh, it's because we didn't take kindly to you flooding the front page with your attempt at thread necromancy. You might as well have painted a big red target on your chest that said, "Throw tomatoes here".

Also, evil? Judge much?

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By the way I don't know what the fuck is Rhubarb. I'm backing up wrwb gonna show him some Love.

Rhubarb essentially means you are saying a bunch of shit that either 1) doesn't make any sense or have a point (trolling), or 2) being met with resistance due to your posts. Simply, you are saying a bunch of shit that people probably already know, and don't care to discuss with you due to the manner which you have approached this site.

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"As brothers fight ye!"

Saying WRWB is your brother is definitely not going to get you off on the right track here. You may enjoy siding with the "underdog", but having no idea who WRWB actually was, you are siding with ignorance as well.

"selflessone" wrote:
You guys are the complete opposite, you're Evol, Evil, Evil...

Judgments, judgments, judgments...

"selflessone" wrote:
You know and I just waned to say something else, because I keep getting a lot of shit from Christians, Catholics, and Jehova's Witnesses for not believing in Christ and thinking I'm a Satanist and then I'm come to congregate with my people my fellow Thelemites and I get this treatment.

You didn't come to congregate. You walked into the room blabbering a whole bunch of nothing, with no introduction, and met with resistance. When you met with said resistance, you commenced to acting like a child. My guess is that you might want to relax and try and get to know everyone, and be social, or you may end up being shown the door.

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If you ask me this fighting to me sounds like the result of some sort of curse on our Philosophy Thelema. We have to fight together! I didn't want to say this but those fucking asshole Christians/Catholics/Jehova's Witnesses aren't pussies how they come off as, I heard those bastards know how to give people cancer and all this shit, they keep saying that it's like "End of the world" or something like that and they're giving all of the sinners cancer with their like holy Christ Powers, I'm not even lieing and then I come to gather with my fellow soldiers fighting against these curses and you start treating me like shit.

Language, while it isn't exactly moderated here, is generally not flung about like you just got off a warship. Also, if you are here to bash any other religion or set of ideas, perhaps you should consider a deeper meaning of Thelema, one that does not include such actions. Also, constant bashing of other religions, beliefs, and ideas will eventually get you shown to the door.

Did you even read the Forum Guidelines?

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I think you guys need to snap the fuck out of it and realize there's a real fucking war going on here and we've got a lot of religions to face. How can you guys fucking try and take out one of your own soldiers? That's fucking pathetic.

I think you need to snap the fuck out of it and realize that there are members of this site working diligently around the clock both to promulgate the law of Thelema, and also to assist in understanding the current war efforts. It is not a Holy War, such as Osama bin Laden declared on the U.S. on 9/11, as it has not quite panned out that way since then, due to repeated efforts to maintain a country standpoint, not a religious one.

Even if it were, the Christians to the Lions!

"selflessone" wrote:
Cantankerous quoting of the Book of the Law.

While it is common to quote the Book of the Law on this site in efforts to drive home a point, you are not accomplishing that here. You are doing it in an attempt to show us how we...

"selflessone" wrote:
[...] are ignoring that.

If you had dug through any of these old threads, or just read the most recent ongoing one on fascism, which you have so eloquently trolled off the front page, you may not have made this statement.

"selflessone" wrote:
Now I have a humongous fucking Thelemite influence on the whole world. I keep seeing all of these artists depicting all kinds of Thelemite shit in their videos. I think a lot of people could consider me a leader amongst Thelemites.

I think you should go fuck yourself and troll some other website. You haven't demonstrated many qualities of a Thelemite thus far, and have certainly not demonstrated any leadership qualities.

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We have to save all those dumb bastards getting cancer from all these Christian fucks and you stupid idiots are trying to fucking rule me out? What the fuck is wrong with you? We need all the fucking soldiers we can get.

This again shows a very narrow and uneducated view of Thelema. What did you do, read the Book of the Law and get motivated into anarchy? Get over it.

"selflessone" wrote:
I've got a fucking plan, I'm currently trying to round up all the fucking Thelemites I can get.

You may want to begin by becoming a Thelemite yourself.

"selflessone" wrote:
I just made this thread on Zoklet last night so we can start congregating and exchanging Magickal secrets so we can all prepare ourselves and defend each other when the "End of the World" shit starts to get even crazier. I also heard these fucking Christian fucks know how to give people heart attacks. We need to start fighting back.

You really have no idea, do you?

"selflessone" wrote:
Now whoever is with me I suggest if you've already established yourself as a Thelemite to join my Social Group and join me in the battle against asshole religions. Who's with me?

No one. You aren't even with your Self.

"selflessone" wrote:
Everybody watch the fuck out for these fucking crazy fuck Jehovah's Witnesses, supposedly if you answer the door to them, they go through you're memory and if they find sins hard enough, they'll fucking start to kill you with all kinds of holy diseases until you pray. You guys have heard of the plagues of Moses right? What makes you think these fucked up Jews are lieing about this shit, the Bible isn't fake a lot of their shit is true, it's just secret you have to just get initiated deep into the church to find all these fucking secrets out.

Again, more Rhubarb.

"selflessone" wrote:
Here's my thread on Zoklet: deleted

Join my team if you're with me.

Thanks for the advertisement. The format in which you have presented it being appalling, I highly doubt I'll visit your little site.

"selflessone" wrote:
Have you ever really thought about what Prayer is? It's just basically a way of kneeling down and begging for mercy for all their sins so they won't fucking die that's all it is.

That's not what prayer "really is". It's what you, in your belligerent, hate-filled, and blind state have imagined it to be.

"selflessone" wrote:
I'm not gonna fucking let them win. I'm not taking your guys' bullshit you need to snap the fuck out of it and start gathering all the fucking soldiers you can fucking get. I'm not letting these bitches win, snap the fuck out of it!

Lay of the drugs.

"selflessone" wrote:
You're in denial, consider how seriously people take the Bible. It's not all just fairy tales, they're talking about real shit. They obviously talk about all this kind of fucked up Jewish Magick, I'm not lieing about the cancer, they can literally cause cancer, I've seen the telescreens flash before my eyes. You need to stop bouncing fellow Thelemites, we need all the fucking soldiers we can get so stop being a dick to all the newcomers. I'm taking this shit very seriously. I'm cursing the fuck out of a bunch of Jehova's Witnesses as we speak with the craziest fucking Magick you can think of, I'm not even lieing.

We understand that you may have many adverse feelings to Christianity and other religions, but these forums are not the place to air your dirty laundry, especially not in the manner which you have chosen.

"selflessone" wrote:
I suggest you start claiming victims

I suggest you stop while you are ahead. It's people like you who make the news for doing something asinine in the name of religion (in this case Thelema), and end up getting said religion further smeared into the mud.

If you really gave a damn about Thelema, you would take the time to learn what it is, take the time to actually be a Thelemite, and maybe go see a doctor or psychiatrist.

"selflessone" wrote:
and read Chapter III verse 57 again. Try reading some books by Chuch Palahniuk I think he mentions how crazy some people get in his book when they're getting cancer like for instance in this one book called "Choke" it's about how this guy would pretend he was choking at restaurants just pretending just to get attention and help. That's how fucked up he was, it also mentions how he was a sex addict and all this other crazy shit. You need to wake the fuck up.

You are projecting again.

"selflessone" wrote:
Well anyway, any of you who are willing to fight the fight against all evil religions I'm starting an army called "93 Magicians" on my website Volukur.com join me if you're willing to fight!

Again, it might be in your best interests to lay off the drugs, and go see a shrink.

"selflessone" wrote:
More inflammatory quoting of Liber AL.
"selflessone" wrote:
Here's the link to my Thelemite Army:
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I'm sure you won't be surprised to learn that there are no real Thelemites in your "army".

"selflessone" wrote:
Don't worry I have a lot of defense tactics against them, so if you contact me I'll protect you with my Magick.

Don't make me laugh. You can't even gather your own aura together, let alone protect anyone else.

"selflessone" wrote:
If any of you are getting any of this same treatment from people on lashtal.com feel free to post on my website deleted I own it, I created and designed it. It's a nice and friendly enviroment feel free to drop in and post whenever you like. It just opened so it's kind of empty right now, but hopefully soon more people will come in and join.

Link deleted

The Thelema forums are at the bottom.

Again, you won't be surprised to find there are no real Thelemites on your site.

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Shiva
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Say now, all you peace-loving fellows and filosofers. You have failed to get the message. A Call to Arms, with many Coats, er "Quotes," has been sounded in the name of the Thelemic Brotherhood of Anti-Witnessing and pro-Gagalism. And all this sexual-toilet type language (?), even to the point of crying aloud that most blasphemous retort imaginable: Troll !

Yeah there needs to be a Call to Arms alright, but maybe not against the reptilian Witnesses for IHVH (Inc), nor against the Christian Crusaders, nor even the Catholicums, but against that same old stanger in our midst.

But surely, mine is a voice crying in the wilderness, and there's a bunch of lashtalians out here in the desert, crying their own mournful tune, and we can all see what's happening even as it happens (a LIVE! report), so before this thread gets locked, I wanted you all to have a copy of the coin of the realm:

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Shiva,

I hadn't pegged you for a man to have such nicely manicured nails. Having just enjoyed your book detailing the hard building works your team got stuck into I thought they'd be somewhat erroded. 😉

Kindest regards,

RTh


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"Azidonis" wrote:
Okay, selflessone, I'ma let you finish but, WRWB was the best Lashtal troll of all time!

Wow. ROTFLMAO. Most hilarious comment of the year!

"Azidonis" wrote:
You haven't demonstrated many qualities of a Thelemite thus far, and have certainly not demonstrated any leadership qualities.

Yet, ironically, he has demonstrated several qualities that reflect some extreme aspects of Lilith posession - delusion, violence, irrationality, antagonism, detachment from reality, lack of impulse control...


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"mika" wrote:
"Azidonis" wrote:
Okay, selflessone, I'ma let you finish but, WRWB was the best Lashtal troll of all time!

Wow. ROTFLMAO. Most hilarious comment of the year!

I have to agree. I laughed out loud.


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