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ptoner
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07/11/2013 2:44 pm  

Living Thelema: A Practical Guide to Attainment in Aleister Crowley's System of Magick
by David Shoemaker

Have never seen this listed on LAShTAL and according to the reviews on Amazon, its giving it a lot of praise. Is it justified? Has anyone else recently bought and read it?

Personally, I enjoy David's segments on "Speech in the Silence" podcasts, so have purchased the book and it has duly arrived with me.
It no doubt will take me an age to get through as books like this generally do for me, as I try to absorb as much as possible.
All the same I am expecting a very good end product.

Some comments on Amazon in the review section.
" A must have"
"Finest book on Thelema produced since Crowley"
"A Gem among the Rough"
"Exceeded Expectations"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Living-Thelema-Practical-Attainment-Aleister/dp/0989384411


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Hamal
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07/11/2013 6:16 pm  

I've ordered the hardback edition, but not read it yet. I heard it was good, but cannot confirm that yet.

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William Thirteen
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07/11/2013 6:37 pm  

Quick, before anyone actually buckles down and reads it, let us engage in ill founded speculation, along with copious

homespun magical and philosophical homilies, nostalgic reminiscences of long-gone meetings [...] and passages of quite incomprehensible ramblings


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07/11/2013 7:00 pm  
"WilliamThirteen" wrote:
Quick, before anyone actually buckles down and reads it, let us engage in ill founded speculation, along with copious "homespun magical and philosophical homilies, nostalgic reminiscences of long-gone meetings [...] and passages of quite incomprehensible ramblings"

Without assuming responsibility for making a final judgment, I need to point out that this is another example of some author explaining Crowley to us, and therfore is catalogable into the "Author Explains Everything" catagory. The title/claim "A Practical Guide to Attainment ..." is particularly subject to close(r) analysis. Shoemaker is apparently going to tell us HOW to apply Thelema in daily life.

Hamal buckled down and bought the book. He likes to buy books, apparently, and it seems like we can "always" ::)  count upon him to eventually tell us what's really in a book.


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07/11/2013 7:31 pm  

Table of Contents: Living Thelema

Part One: Tools for the Journey
•An Introduction to the Qabalah
•The Holy Guardian Angel
•The True Will
•Getting Started with a Basic Magical Regimen
•The Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram
•The Lesser & Greater Rituals of the Hexagram
•Liber Resh vel Helios
•Methods of Ritual Construction
•Asana & Pranayama
•Meditation & Visualization Practices
•Astral Projection & Control of the Body of Light
•Devotional Practices
•Liber Samekh & the Invocation of the Holy Guardian Angel
•Sexual Magick & Sexual Mysticism

Part Two: Perspectives on the Path of Attainment
•The Methods & Tools of A∴A∴
•Tarot & the Path of Initiation
•Initiation & Tetragrammaton
•The Chakras
•The Role of the Ego in the Great Work
•The Formulas of LVX and NOX
•The Right Use of Magical Power
•21st Century Alchemy
•The Practical Use of Alchemical Symbolism

Part Three: Life Outside the Temple
•Patterns & Cycles in Magical Practice
•Dreamwork
•Relationships
•Qabalistic Coping Techniques
•Psychotherapy
•The Anima & Animus
•Cognitive Therapy for Magicians


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Hamal
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07/11/2013 9:04 pm  
"Shiva" wrote:
Hamal buckled down and bought the book. He likes to buy books, apparently, and it seems like we can "always" ::)  count upon him to eventually tell us what's really in a book.

My name is Hamal... I like to buy books!  :-[

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07/11/2013 10:53 pm  

I have had it for a few weeks, i havent really cracked it open much sorry.


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alysa
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08/11/2013 4:42 am  

It was announced here on Lashtal!


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08/11/2013 9:10 am  
"alysa" wrote:
It was announced here on Lashtal!

Yes: http://www.lashtal.com/portal/news/thelema/2834-david-shoemaker-living-thelema.html

I've read the book and have to say that I was impressed.

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ptoner
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08/11/2013 10:38 am  

As a news item,  thanks for the link and comment Paul. I did search the forums and it did not come up,  hence my post Alysa.

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jamie barter
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08/11/2013 2:40 pm  
"WilliamThirteen" wrote:
Quick, before anyone actually buckles down and reads it, let us engage in ill founded speculation, along with copious

homespun magical and philosophical homilies, nostalgic reminiscences of long-gone meetings [...] and passages of quite incomprehensible ramblings

Not guilty here – and I hadn’t even heard of this book before now!  (Shows how out of touch I've become!)  However, I tend to share Shiva’s – not “cynicism” that is probably not the right word!  ;D – but disinclination towards these type of wordings…

"Shiva" wrote:
Without assuming responsibility for making a final judgment, I need to point out that this is another example of some author explaining Crowley to us, and therfore is catalogable into the "Author Explains Everything" catagory. The title/claim "A Practical Guide to Attainment ..." is particularly subject to close(r) analysis. Shoemaker is apparently going to tell us HOW to apply Thelema in daily life.

"Row, row, row yer boat, gently down the stream..."
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jamie barter
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11/11/2013 3:44 pm  
"jamie barter" wrote:
However, I tend to share Shiva’s – not “cynicism” that is probably not the right word!  ;D – but disinclination towards these type of wordings…

Reply #45 on the "Golden Dawn & 1999 Compared To The O. T. O. (also About Sumerian Magick)" thread by sumerian131 dated: November 09, 2013, 08:57:53 pm:

I never meant to imply that Shiva was officially a "cynic" in every aspect of his life. I should have used the word the word "skepticism" and I meant it to be limited to the topic discussed. I also recall being a bit drunk when I called Shiva cynical. Apologies Shiva.

We are now informed, apparently, that “skepticism” is the favoured vernacular.  So be it!  (I think I remember Gerald Suster once saying a skeptic was an amateur cynic still working away at the job – but still!)

Maybe, William Thirteen, you could let me know (out of curiosity) why it is that every time you repeat this little passage of mine (originally in reference to Grady McMurtry’s pieces in the C.O.T.O.’s Magickal Link) -

[Throughout this term as “Caliph” McMurtry was] inordinately fond of treating [the front page of The Magickal Link] as his personal mouthpiece, filling out two to three pages in each issue with a written-up version of his notion of a presidential “fireside chat”.  Interspersed with homespun magical and philosophical homilies, nostalgic reminiscences of long-gone meetings, and military anecdotes and escapades were passages of quite incomprehensible ramblings

on each occasion, while in the course of butchering it around, you omit the clause which comes after it, viz:

contrasted with occasional shafts of luminosity that indicated the one-time promise which Crowley might have seen.

Why do you keep omitting luminosity in your fondness to repeat this extract? Is it that you do you not like a shaft of Light now and again??! 

One repetition may be funny.  Twice even, if something’s really funny.  A third time would be a bore, indisputably.

…Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream”
N Joy


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