I am fairly versed in modern history - never heard of such! I can not believe you are advocating Hitler's officer class! Now if Germany chooses a recession to cut off gas payments to Russia - now there is virtue! (To be a little more clear, if you are right, that is not what not normally goes into a history book, it is particular detailed specialist history - although I guess if you live in Poland and you did not hate the Pope at the time, you should know the Nazi who ruled you then, just like in America we know Daniel Boone)
I am fairly versed in modern history - never heard of such! I can not believe you are advocating Hitler's officer class!
No, you think you're versed in modern history, there's a difference and are you taking the piss? If you have been following the thread properly you'd find that no I am not 'advocating' Hitler's officer class.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Good to know! A touch of the whiskey! I actually enjoy your writing on the forum Dom. You are one my faves! Almost always bring a good smile to my face! Trying to sift the Nazis from the non-Nazis! And it appears there just might be a few of the former on this forum! Or not! Are there any Nazis out there?
Good to know! Just being silly!
Yeah but this forum isn't the place to get silly.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
I did not say I was being a silly dick. I said I had had a touch of whiskey - but yes you were advocating the officer class of Hitler - for what ever reason. I am not versed in modern history. I am fairly versed. Let us say on scale from one to ten - four? And yes you can be silly on Lashtal - was not Crowley Mr Silly himself? But you are right we should be all schooled in history philosophy and science, otherwise we are idiots. Believe it or not that is the first time I have ever used the word "dick" in my entire life in my writing, only because you used it (did you erase it?)
I did not say I was being a silly dick. I said I had had a touch of whiskey -
Is there a difference? You came to the forum and interacted whilst stoned on a particularly pernicious beverage and made and continue to make silly posts. I did not 'advocate' Hitler's officer class. I already explained that, how old are you? Fifteen?
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
You win David. You are the winner. You are right, I am wrong. I am not 15 but you do seem to really like the idea of double doctorate leaders! I will not destroy you with Nuclear Missiles (I had to lug my mobile nuclear missiles around Germany to protect the idiot Europeans from the Russians back in the day (where are you from England?) Can not you people protect yourselves? Is it the British Invasion?
You win David. You are the winner. You are right, I am wrong.
A sound observation on your part.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Are there any Nazis out there?
yikes, I hope not.
Yeah but this forum isn't the place to get silly.
Really? I know I've only been here since August but it seems like we get pretty silly here regularly.
a particularly pernicious beverage
I'm actually very fond of whiskey. Particularly in Old Fashioneds and Manhattans.
a particularly pernicious beverage
I'm actually very fond of whiskey. Particularly in Old Fashioneds and Manhattans.
I see...then let that be yet another notch added to the degeneracy of thy blackened soul.
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
😀 🤣
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
I see...then let that be yet another notch added to the degeneracy of thy blackened soul.
I'm pretty sure it's vantablack at this point 😉
I am fairly versed in modern history
But Everything you Know is Wrong! Says so, Robt A Wilson.
Good to know! A touch of the whiskey!
I winder if there are guides in The Guidelines about alcoholism and posting while impaired? Now that it's become a regular feature, complete with self-incriminating confessions, , futher research (into said Guidelines) is warranted. A Warrant may be issued in your name.
Are there any Nazis out there?
Ich bin (I am) 50% DNA Deutschlander. My uncle fought the Naz at Normandie (out there on a LST boat). My father went to the Draft Board, saying, "I will go." They (the Board) said, "You are an Engineer. You're not going anywhere." Personally (along with some other lost souls) hold the Naz up as a prime example of the outward manifestation of The Black Lodge.
Yeah but this forum isn't the place to get silly.
There is Silly Humorous and Silly Stupid. How do we tell the difference?
I did not say I was being a silly dick. I said I had had a touch of whiskey -
The defendant better not keep on repeating his confession. Holy cow, don't you have a solicitor to advise your oralyama?
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It is now (today) April Niner. RTC has been spotted on the Horus-zone horizon. JG is sotted in the setzone (his sun is setting). What we need now is a drive-by posting of the secret puzzle solution ... or two.
Ignant ... Spring has arrived. The birds are tweeting.
Good to know! A touch of the whiskey!
Writing posts on the forum whilst downing whiskey? Yeah, why not?
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Would you imagine that anything that the USA has done in the way of "imperialism" has ever led to anything remotely comparable to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, with the massive and heedless loss of civilian lives, the deliberate and systematic murder of civilians by the hundreds (at the very least) as a deliberate military strategy of terror through war crimes, as a result of an literally imperialist invasion of a sovereign nation for purposes of genocide, which has created the largest massive refugee flight since WW II?
Vietnam, Iraq, Grenada, quite a few of 'em. I don't want to get into the weeds, especially since it's a hot topic and this isn't a contemporary events/politics board, but aren't you forgetting the 13,000 (UN figure, Russians say around 16,000) ethnic Russians who have been killed by Ukrainian ultra-nationalists in Eastern Ukraine? And there's plenty of evidence of similar quality or better, of very bad behaviour on the other side too.
(I must admit, it's quite stunning to me how some people have turned on a dime re. "Nazis.")
Also, consider the Bucha business - Russia has asked twice now for an independent investigation, but the UK has cockblocked it - perhaps rumours of MI6 involvement in setting up a false flag have something to do with it, perhaps not, but you know, fog of war. Plus there's the whole backstory re. NATO encroachment to the conflict. There are ALWAYS two sides to every story.
Don't believe everything you see in the media, and make an attempt to see the other side's propaganda too. You have a better chance of triangulating for the truth that way. Truth is the first casualty of war, as the saying goes - and that's true for all sides involved in any war.
Weird partial post above, can't edit. There was another bit I wanted to add at the end:-
Posted by: @ignant666
I just have to wonder: Have you actually been on a US university campus, like, ever?
I visited the campus of the University of Texas at Austin for a Dalai Lama speech, and I once visited Rice to meet a friend studying there. Does that count? 🙂 (Actually one of my other friends, an Englishman, also went to Rice - he did something I can't remember now, something related to literature, but it was heavily Theory-based as I recall. He himself is more of a Lacan fan.)
But believe it's all Right-wing propaganda if you will, I don't mind.
[A]ren't you forgetting the 13,000 (UN figure, Russians say around 16,000) ethnic Russians who have been killed by Ukrainian ultra-nationalists in Eastern Ukraine?
For those who don't follow this stuff closely, our Comrade refers to the total casualties the last time Russia invaded Ukraine, in 2014. Kind of tough to blame Ukraine for their soldiers being killed defending against a Russian invasion, and also for the Russians they killed, and for the thousands of civilians slaughtered by the Russians as is their way.
The President of Ukraine is one of those "ethnic Russians" you, and Putin, imagine are oppressed by living in a democracy.
consider the Bucha business - Russia has asked twice now for an independent investigation.
Uh, huh. These days there is satellite evidence, and probably cellphone footage. There is no getting away with the old Kremlin "It is well known that..." horseshit anymore.
NATO encroachment to the conflict
Again, for those that don''t follow this stuff closely, this is Kremlin-speak for "the desire of Eastern European countries not to be invaded by Russia, as manifest by desperation to join NATO."
Obviously, events have demonstrated that the majority of Ukrainian citizens who voted in free elections to have Ukraine join NATO were hysterical pawns emotionally manipulated by Euro-American capitalist military-industrial-complex interests, since we now know Russia views Ukraine with benevolence as a "little brother nation" that "can only enjoy true independence as a part of Russia" (direct Putin quote, translated by evil NATO interests of course; oh no, that's the Russian Foreign Ministry official translation of Putin's lunatic speech justifying invading Ukraine and slaughtering Ukrainians).
There are ALWAYS two sides to every story.
Always the whine of apologists for tyranny, dictatorship, and slaughter. No, there really aren't always two sides to every story.
[just mentally plug in "Putin" every time Leadbelly says "Hitler"]
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BTW, thank you for your post admitting that you have literally no idea what you are talking about when you make claims about what "US academia" is up to. Good of you to acknowledge that you are in the habit of talking out the side of your neck with no idea of any actual facts.
Yeah, why not?
Several reasons. None listed here. Why bother?
(I must admit, it's quite stunning to me how some people have turned on a dime re. "Nazis.")
We are in the middle of a planetary "cosmic changeover." There appear to be two timeline outcomes in competition for the seat of power Iin the East?) in the coming era-age-aeon-dispensation, although it's really a case of every star for him-her self. Individual, stand-up, self reliance will not come about by discussing philosophy, taking sides with other non-related squabblers, or political affiliations. It is now time for every unit to get prepared to "stand and deliver" or "beat a retreat.
The higher circuits of morality and abstract thinking are being subued in favor of that old standard: first-circuit survival (talk-talk and ideas temporarily suspended).
Yeah, The Fascia and the Naz and the Comms and the Izlams, and the Rus, and the Labs, and the EUks (have I missed any?) all have these bang-boom things and triggers are being pulled on the ground and (especially) in the digital marketplace.
Abaddon! The Opening of the Eye!
Yeah, people everywhere are changing their minds about certain things. Money, gold, food, politics, good vs bad, bad vs good. Don't folks recognize mass psychological tumbling when they see it?
it was heavily Theory-based as I recall.
What is "heavenly theory?"
Shiva never served in the United States of America Military and all of his words should be avoided.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xDwdIVJAY&list=PLAxT_DkSwQLuq9R351Vp9kVGbE4TiMzQ6&index=7
Good to know! A touch of the whiskey!
Writing posts on the forum whilst downing whiskey? Yeah, why not?
I've done it enough times. Does any impairment not depend on how much one has imbibed and how much tolerance one has? 😊
No not everyone believes the West's war propaganda about the Ukraine....but the sad pathetic fact is that you Ignant666 are the one, of all people on this thread, who is actually supporting the side composed of actual Nazi's flying actual Nazi Swastika's and other fascist racist insignia, who have been involved in ethnic cleansing murder since the Obama/Biden/Clinton/Nuland sponsored coup against the legitimate government in the Ukraine utilized Banderite Nazi's murder to take power.
all of his words should be avoided.
Qhy? (invoking because).
I have to say WOW! But I am not surprised. There are a lot of "Thelemites" bathing in the conspiracy thing. Of course they are also here on Lashtal, or maybe better back on Lashtal. Speaking of Bucha "business" (I guess that says it all: business), there are dozens of fact-checking sites that have settled the fact. There is video evidence, there is audio evidence, Bucha massacres happened, but some people - you know who I mean that have just come back recently - still take the conspiracy path, just WOW! Would love to see "the other side's propaganda too". No, I actually don't. I guess there is a specific reason this person joined again. On the other hand: what is so special about Lashtal that someone would post again after years of silence just to spew this shit? I guess it's a plus for Lashtal!
And to make it clear: unfortunately there are something like 25% of Nazis in every country right now, including Ukraine. There might be more in the US. But ... that's not the majority so far. Let's keep it that way.
Each day this becomes sadder.
Love=Law
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who is actually supporting the side composed of actual Nazi's flying actual Nazi Swastika's and other fascist racist insignia, who have been involved in ethnic cleansing murder
Sorry, but are you out of fricking mind? You are saying that Putin is right?
For those who don't follow this stuff closely, our Comrade refers to the total casualties the last time Russia invaded Ukraine, in 2014.
No that's total casualties from 2014 to 2021. Civilian deaths are just over 3,000, separatist forces 5,795 so 8,795 ethnic Russians. I admit, I was relying on memory and garbled a bunch of different things, I should have checked. Anyway, the point is there's enough horror to go round.
Re. "Russian invasion" that was corrupt US puppet Poroshenko's claim, but it's actually separatists who were pissed off that the vote for independence was ignored (so much for "living in a democracy"). Yes Russia supported them - what would you expect?
I mean, at the end of the day a big reason this is a mess is because Ukraine was gerrymandered into existence by the USSR, it was never a country in its own right, it's just that part of the gerrymandered region was ethnic/native speaking Ukrainian (and ofc it's understandable that that side would want independence - but by the same token it's understandable that the Eastern part would cleave to Russia, that they do so isn't necessarily evidence of eeebil Pootler meddling.).
(Zelensky is a Jew, not an ethnic Russian. Russian is common throughout the Ukraine for obvious historical reasons, and still used at home by nearly half the population across the board, so Russophonia (phonicness? 🙂 ) is not the relevant distinction with the Eastern parts, it's an ethnic/native language distinction.)
Uh, huh. These days there is satellite evidence, and probably cellphone footage.
Well in that case the UN (and the UK) should have no problem doing an independent investigation, as Russia's twice asked for, right? After all, it would settle the matter and thoroughly indict Russia beyond any reasonable doubt - if it wasn't a false flag.
Or are we to believe that media and propaganda reports in the middle of a war are sufficient to discern the truth of what happened?
the majority of Ukrainian citizens who voted in free elections to have Ukraine join NATO
What are you talking about?
No, there really aren't always two sides to every story.
No, there really are, always, always, always - even to WW2. e.g. the disastrous aftermath of Versailles (now admitted even by milquetoast mainstream historians as ridiculously unfair to Germany under the circumstances), The National Socialist economic success in the 30s (mainly as a result of extricating Germany from the global finance system of the time), Churchill's pushing for war with Germany when Hitler had stated numerous times in private and public that he had no interest in war with Britain. Britain bombing Germany quite a bit before the Blitz to provoke Hitler. Etc., etc., et multae ceterae.
admitting that you have literally no idea what you are talking about when you make claims about what "US academia" is up to
No, I merely answered your question. 😉
I'm just not inclined to do the emotional labour I'd have to do to enlighten you on that topic, and there's already enough proliferation going on.
You can have the last word. Seeing as we've linked each other some cool videos, I'll leave you with this one. You probably know it, but it's worth a refresher even if you do - check out her tone, what does your intuition tell you about her? My intuition tells me pure evil with a mellifluous voice. 3:09 is hilarious, particularly the venom in the enunciation, and it's what grabbed most peoples' attention, but the whole thing strikes me as chilling, enlightening about 2014 events (check the blurb below the vid), and representative of the way the US has been meddling all over the world since the end of WW2.
Yeah, The Fascia and the Naz and the Comms and the Izlams, and the Rus, and the Labs, and the EUks (have I missed any?) all have these bang-boom things and triggers are being pulled on the ground and (especially) in the digital marketplace.
Eh, I'm not convinced that there'll be a nuclear war, but I do think there's could be at least some kind of partial collapse of globalism (good), and a lot of resource-starvation and misery for a lot of people (bad), especially in Europe (both Western and Eastern).
Unless Germany decides to hand over the Rubles, which would be the sensible thing to do. But Germany is so sensitive to atrocity propaganda and so desperately wants to be a gud boi that I doubt that will happen.
As I see it, the tail wagging the dog here is US/globalist fear of the pan-European economic powerhouse that could have been formed by the combination of German industry and Russian resources. Germany was just getting too cozy with Russia (see Nordstream 2) for comfort, and the US, having forsworn native industry in pursuit of the globalist dream, has weakened itself to the point that a German/Russian rapprochement (especially if the link were to have been made through to a pan-Asian alliance on Russia's other side) could have potentially dealt the US a deathblow as the world hegemon. So the bear had to be poked, and here we are. Dead Ukrainians, dead Russians, and a likely a whole lot of other knock-on suffering.
IOW: "ffFuck the EU" (cf. the link I gave to ignant666 above).
I have to say WOW! But I am not surprised. There are a lot of "Thelemites" bathing in the conspiracy thing.
cf. the video I linked to ignant666 above. Seems pretty conspiratorial to me.
There are conspiracies and conspiracies - some are obvious nonsense, some are dubious, some are plausible. The accusation that people are doing things behind the scenes for nefarious purposes isn't inherently silly, is it?
The counter-argument is obvious: things are hard enough to organize above-board, far less in secret, and the more people involved the more chance of leaks. But these things do happen.
the US has been meddling all over the world since the end of WW2.
They (the legends) say it is the outfrowth of the O.S.S. who are to be looked unto for this (meddling).
here's some conspiracy.
" There was never a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Russian military focus was on the Donbass region in east and south Ukraine. Inhabited by Russians and part of Russia herself until Soviet leaders transferred it, like Crimea, into Ukraine for their reasons. When the US overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government in 2014 and took control over Ukraine, the Crimean and Donbass Russians voted overwhelmingly to be reunited with Russia. The Kremlin accepted Crimea but not Donbass.
To protect themselves, the Donbass Russians declared their independence in the form of two republics, the Donetsk and Luhansk Republics. Ukrainian troops and neo-Nazi militias began attacking these “breakaway republics.” They have been shelling with artillery Donbass villages, towns, and cities for 8 years, killing thousands of civilians, and the Ukrainian forces, although twice defeated by hastily assembled forces in the Donbass, managed to gain control over large areas of the breakaway republics.
It was the deployment of a 100,000 or more Ukrainian force on the shrunken borders of Donbass for an invasion to reconquer the territory that provoked the Russian intervention. Washington’s refusal to give the Kremlin a security guarantee was a second reason for the Russian military intervention. Russia told Washington in completely clear language that Russia would not permit Ukraine to be a member of NATO. Nevertheless, Washington persisted in its provocation.
Most of Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine is focused on clearing Ukrainian and neo-Nazi forces out of Donbass. This is the reason for Putin’s go-slow war that rules out heavy weapons use on civilian areas.
The civilians are Russians, and, as Putin said, “we went in to liberate these people, not to kill them.”
Most of Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine is focused on clearing Ukrainian and neo-Nazi forces out of Donbass. This is the reason for Putin’s go-slow war that rules out heavy weapons use on civilian areas.
The civilians are Russians, and, as Putin said, “we went in to liberate these people, not to kill them.”
What the sanctions have done is to destroy the dollar-based world that allowed the Americans to impose the financing of their huge trade deficit, due largely to US corporations offshoring their production for the US market, on the rest of the world. Russia, China, central and east Asia will now create their own methods of payment separate from the West. This will destroy dollar hegemony and American power.
In the Russian government their most powerful person is the head of the Russian central bank whose policies serve the West and not Russia. Putin, despite the warnings from Russia’s only economist, Sergey Glazyev, trusts the pro-American head of the Russian central bank with Russia’s future. The Russian central bank, which has never served Russia, is Washington’s greatest asset in its hopes to defeat Russia. It is Putin’s blindness to this threat that is the dagger at Russia’s heart. "
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/04/01/ukrainian-update-9/
Putin's work around.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-says-russia-will-start-selling-gas-unfriendly-countries-roubles-2022-03-23/
Putin is not happy with any of this unnecessary conflict, but seeing that he has the might to take out the west's command centers in an entirely justified preemptive nuclear first strike, all done before one can finish reading the Third Chapter today, might be cause for saner minds in the west take up the offer to settle things through diplomacy, particularly as the sanctions against Russia will hurt the people of the west more than it does Russia.
Of course the Saturnian leadership of the west is in its "eat it own children" phase for quite a long time, and now in hyperdrive with the war provocation of the Corona Virus attacks and Great ReSet agenda, now moves to provoke the Russia...with the people of the west have been well distracted by bread and circuses from being able to summon the sensitivity of thought come to appreciate the essence of the Treaty of Westphalia, of the notion of the "advantage of the other" relative to never ending war being pushed by the West.
might be cause for saner minds in the west take up the offer to settle things through diplomacy,
There's no diplomacy possible with people like Hitler or Putin. Best to go out fighting than bend the knee to butchers like those.
an entirely justified preemptive nuclear first strike
Justified? Seriously? You're a Putin apologist?
Three so far.
Well, I guess some people hate the "West" and "modernity" so much that they go with "the enemy of what I hate so much is my friend." No wonder that a lot of the Corona-deniers and anti-vaccers are now Putin-apologists.
here's some conspiracy.
If you were soap-boxing on one of the Societies' Major Social Media Emporiums, your post would be blocked and your links deleted. People would call you a domestic and international terrorist. How can you live with yourself?
the sanctions against Russia will hurt the people of the west more than it does Russia
More Extreme terrorist Philosophy. The prices at my local market have not risen by 30-50% at all. My petrol gasahol has not tripled recently. This 5G (fifth generation) war (digital psyop) is just an illusion. How can you live with yourself?
I have to say WOW! But I am not surprised. There are a lot of "Thelemites" bathing in the conspiracy thing. Of course they are also here on Lashtal, or maybe better back on Lashtal. Speaking of Bucha "business" (I guess that says it all: business), there are dozens of fact-checking sites that have settled the fact. There is video evidence, there is audio evidence, Bucha massacres happened, but some people - you know who I mean that have just come back recently - still take the conspiracy path, just WOW!
People get enamoured by Fascism, it works on the unconscious level, for those who wish to explore further see Wilhelm Reich's Mass Psychology of Fascism. Anyway on the Russian atrocity- naysaying issue see Syria where al-Assad invited Russian troops to commit similar war crimes;
Russian war crimes - Wikipedia
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims that Russian air strikes and artillery shells have killed 18,000 people, including nearly 8,000 civilians, in Syria by 1 October 2018
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Just a reminder that the OP FMN quote is from a book which strives to attain to the perception that evil is but a human construct and doesn't actually exist out(?) there in Nature 'or' inside us. Cabalsitically speaking, The Creator is in everything, as He-She made the four QBL worlds and is in all events and possibilities that take place in the animal kingdom involving aggressive domination whether for survival or for territorial games (have you ever seen a fox toying with a cat or a cat toying with a mouse?) The Creator is beyond good and evil therefore. The christian devil has horns and a tail like an animal for a reason. Christ, Buddha and Mohammed criticised unthinking indulgences and tried to instil a human-animal dichotomy.
Put simply, FMN saw a certain time and place in Greece as an ideal which was apparently lost to Christian dominance (although he pointed out that 'the last Christian died on the cross') So these Greeks (?) aspired to strength , beauty, force and fire and delicious languor and generally stamped down on the wretched and the weak without any type of guilt (like any modern American college fraternity I guess) and slaves knew their place and the next question is did everything roll along brutally and not so nicely for the aforementioned disenfranchised? There was no consciousness or conscience that man owning man was 'not right.' Anyone who disagreed was a weak, ugly resentful, self-damning loser. There was no 'political correctness', that reality (according to FMN) did not exist.
Shakespeare alluded to the amorality of tyrants as Richard III prepares for battle and meets his fate in, "Conscience is but a word that cowards use, Devised at first to keep the strong in awe. – William Shakespeare. Richard III, Act 5, Scene 3.
It's easy to see why Hitler sent Mussolini the collected works of Nietzsche when he (Mussolini) was down in the dumps over losing some military campaign. Anyway, let the Gods bless America and the Greek ideal....lol;
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Well, I guess some people hate the "West" and "modernity" so much that they go with "the enemy of what I hate so much is my friend." No wonder that a lot of the Corona-deniers and anti-vaccers are now Putin-apologists.
That's true, I've observed that a fair bit.
But on the other hand (bringing it back to the thread topic) so did Nietzsche (hate "the West" and "modernity") 🙂
And there are serious questions to be asked about the pharmaceutical industry, even setting the vaccine aside. There are doubts about the vaccine still, and its potential future effects - not necessarily anything sinister or woo, but even just at the bland level of it having been rushed - by Trump funnily enough - and side-effects having been downplayed, in a context where, as we now know, for most people except the at-risk group, the survival rate is what, something like 99.7%? (I had the Rona myself last year, the symptoms were mildly peculiar relative to your usual type of flu, but it wasn't much worse than other flus I've had. And I'm 60smthahem.)
Incidentally, "weird videos coming out of China" was how the COVID phenomenon started back at the end of 2019 if we all recall (btw, what was all that about people falling down dead in the street in China - anyone remember those clips?), and now we're seeing "weird videos out of China" again, as it seems they're starting to do big lockdowns again in some places (there's a chilling vid of people locked up in tower blocks, screaming at night because they're fed up with it - apparently). So COVID was obviously a shock at the time, there was a lot of confusion re. statistics, effects, etc., but it looks like the Great & Good eventually took advantage of the scare to divide people even more than they're already divided.
But going back to the general pharmaceutical naughtiness, here's a recent vid from Russell Brand, who's been doing some sterling work recently (and fast accumulating a politically bipartisan audience of over 5m now on Youtube). (For those who don't know, Russell Brand is a British comic who became mildly famous worldwide after his initial burst of fame in the days of UK reality tv shows. He was pretty insufferable - although quite sharp and witty in live situations - for a long time, but recently it seems he's kicked his addictions and what have you, and been doing a lot of meditation with some traditional Asian system - might be Korean Zen or something, can't remember offhand - and my sense of him now is that he's pretty together and looks like he's gotten some mystical experience under his belt; in tandem with his togetherness, for the past few months or so he's been doing some quite hard-hitting YT vids examining and discussing articles, neutral and from both sides of the political spectrum, and asking questions about just how much we can trust the establishment on all sorts of topics.)
It's certainly food for thought: how much can you "trust the science" when the peer review system has been turned into a corporate shilling system?
the Greek ideal....lol;
Say, I haven't seen Charles Atlas in about six decades. He neglects to note that his own ribs are also showing in his muscle-picture.
Yeah, Charles was the poster boy for physical fitness (muscle variety) ... until this guy named Schwarzenegger came along and produced bigger bumps.
This is supposed to be a Nietzsche thread. Are their semi-daring pics of him? So that we can judge, you know, his mind based on his manly attributes?
Say, I haven't seen Charles Atlas in about six decades. He neglects to note that his own ribs are also showing in his muscle-picture.
What, you would've kicked his ass?
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What, you would've kicked his ass?
Hardly, or not at all
What, you would've kicked his ass?
Hardly, or not at all
Are you kiddin'? One chi-punch to the heart?
https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline
Are you kiddin'? One chi-punch to the heart?
A bit below the heart - at the xiphoid process junction, at the bottom of the sternum. But, no. Mister Atlas was a highly-developed muscleman, by the standards of 1940-50s. I was a skinny kid of 6'3" and 145 lbs. I didn't fight with anybody.
Then, around age 18, I started lifting weights (thanks to the influence of Frater Taurus, who was a brawler as well). Around 19 or 20, I opened my first dojo - a room in a friend's house, the floor lined wall-to-wall with used but clean and uncut chaise-lounge pads. I invited all sorts of peers to enter and throw or be thrown - as directed by the Judo book - not Charles Atlas's Atlas of Muscle-Building.
By the time I was ready for Charles, I suspect he was old, infirm, or dead. I do not believe in kicking people once they're dead.
No.
So that we can judge, you know, his mind based on his manly attributes?
He had the most manliest and bushiest of mustaches - does that count? 🙂
Relative to the OP, the quote from AC, from the 76 chapter of the Confessions (and not that verse of that number in Liber AL) needs to be understood from its context, New York City, 1914, where AC is awaiting for the arrival of his books from England and states:
" So I bethought me whether I could not irrationally, immorally, unphilosophically, with a game leg but all my heart and brain, serve England.
I am furious at the stupidity of the British propaganda....As for German propaganda it is hardly noticeable." pg 816 Bantam Edition (Symonds and Grant)
Thus the quote that Dom finds, is in a section concerning AC high regard for contributions of Germans to science, arts, etc since his boyhood, and how England sought to emulate Germany regarding social sciences. Thus AC's mention of Nietzsche is really just but a list, and the mention of Thoth really more of a throwaway line. The full sentence is:
“Nietzsche was to me almost an avatar of Thoth, the god of wisdom, and whether of no he was a Polish Jew, Germany had possessed sufficient intelligence to profit from the wackings he gave her." pg 817
What profit Germany got from such wackings of Nietzsche, perhaps we can blame AC's propaganda efforts relative to pushing America into the war and helping to defeat Germany, for the rise of those in Germany, the Nazi's, funded by Anglo-American oligarchs, who would blame Jewish communist agitation for the loss of the war, setting the conditions for the next war, to which Jews would become the scapegoat, against very role of the yiddish renaissance relative to rise of the classical Germany.
(per Yiddish Renaissance see:
https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/fid_02-06/032_yiddish.html
https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/lar_related/2002/on_mendelssohn.html
Which thus brings us to the present praxis of propaganda and world war initiated by Barack Obama in launching the CIA Color Revolution against the legitimate government in the Ukraine in 2014 that would lead to that puppet government of the west beginning ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking Ukrainians, in what has always been part of a strategy (as Obama was always a puppet of the Zbigniew Brzezinski side of the western oligarchy) concerned with Mackinder's British "Great Game" approach that has always sought to cut Russia into little pieces. Prior to Russia being the bogey man, it was Germany, and King Edward VII Freemasonic orchestration of World War I (Something that Rudolph Steiner would speak in the "Karma of Untruthfulness" lectures)
Thus for the Anglo-American "Russia bashers" note that Russia was part of the Triple Entente against Germany, and the war against Germany was of the same nature of the present attack by the Anglo-American Empire against Russia and China today.
Thus we have the issue of propaganda that has popped up in this thread relative to Dom's asking about the influence of Nietzsche on Crowley...
So is this where it has all devolved, is this an actress with botox lips, Maria Abromobitch's stunt double yields (girt with a sword) but no its a sickle, emblem of the Soviet Union, and not Russia, that is to blame for the Holomodor now coming to the west as the "Come on Man" G.I. Joe Biden and other elites are bring to the world....all that they can blame Putin.
https://www.brighteon.com/56e1fcde-2b88-4521-ac73-70ac7a4ca6db
Of course the Russian military has provide a reply to the point of why are the Neocon Nazi men not fighting (they are, they are just killing their own)
Here is an article about believing one's propaganda as relates to the present conflict:
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/07/caitlin-johnstone-defending-psychological-war/
Of course there are sociopaths in the west who follow the path of propaganda , to become as Crowley consciously set course on to become "irrationally, immorally, unphilosophically" such that they categorically deny humanity, but denying the possibility of diplomacy with President Putin, just as they would not have sought diplomacy with Hitler to avoid World War II, and thus are presently coveting World War. It should be noted that it was the British, under the push of Bertrand Russell, that pushed the Americans towards building and using the Atomic Bombs against Japan, which was the beginning of the strategy of controlling the world through terror....until the Soviets built the bomb themselves.
Of course it has been said that the present war theater, of false flags, 9/11, Anthrax attacks, Covid-19 snake oil murder for profit, World War III, might lead to the next chapter, which is not the Incoming of Truth and Justice, of Maat, but mass projections of Lam interfaces on the next app upload of the great distraction....or Dis-ion that I think was proclaimed somewhere on these pages...
More lunatic Putin apologism that simply ignores actual, quite recent, history, fabricates a good deal of recent, and older history, and of course pretends the ongoing Russian genocide against Ukraine just isn't happening.
And all, curiously, 100% in accord with Kremlin propaganda. I can't imagine they are actually sending checks to Vermont, so just a "Useful Idiot", i guess?
Brandolini's Law states that "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is needed to produce it." See also "Gish gallop".
He had the most manliest and bushiest of mustaches - does that count?
Yes, it does. However, we know that these wimpy little shinny guys (who may be wiry) compensate for their miniturazation by displaying a fountain mustache, long hair that sticks up, elecator shoes, a naturally antagonistic persona, or a long whispy beard (thin). The wide, cloud-like beards are usually seen on taller bigger folks.
It seems that Grady McM adopted the Olcott broom-beard motif.
the beginning of the strategy of controlling the world through terror
What a novel idea. Genghis Khan used this method, but he only got a percentage of the world ... due to the armies of the EU oligarchs. Well, there was no Union in Europe, except maybe a Christian bond, and they were actually monarchs, and it has been said that the Mongols would have crunched Europe ... if the Khan had not died (or was dying) and they were ordered home. What would Crowley think and do (and be) if ... ?
What would Nee-chee, Crow-lee, you (anyone) and mee, think and be, if ... ?
Speaking of beards, I was shocked a few years ago to discover that my beard when fully grown to bushy extent, is one of those types that stick out horizontally to the sides, like some of those photographs of obscure Victorians glowering at the viewer. It also has a marked dark & white pattern. Who knew that that was the beard type of that would result from me growing my beard? At the time it got me to thinking about potential/actual, and Nietzsche's phrase "become what you are," True Will, etc.
That beard-shape, its existence, was "latent," or a possibility since yea time (not just a possibility for this body from birth, but a possibility latent in the Universe since the Big Bang). Now it's part of the actually-existing "me" (and now also a part of the actually-existing universe).
e.g. if my friends think of me now, that's the gestalt of "George" they'll think of, whereas in my youth, they would have thought of "George" as the handsome, clean-shaven, square jawed fellow.
Not sure where I'm going with that, but I just thought it might be interesting to some (not my beard, but the greater philosophical issues it raises 🙂 ). More recently I read up a fair bit about Aristotelianism/Thomism, where the concepts of "potential" and "actual" are delved into quite deeply, and where the distinction is one of the main engines of the Prime Mover argument. (It's interesting to compare and contrast those older metaphysics with the "modern," post-Descartes.)
Perhaps what our dear friend Ignant666 is trying to say is that sometimes the propagandist bites their own tale!
Thus he Judo's himself when support of the Nazi's can not be hidden.
Anyways good news....even Bernie Sanders is not buying the "come on man's" GI. Joe's Biden's "Blame Putin" for inflation....the common man will starve.... as we feed the military monster and the battle on the eastern front!
Not sure where I'm going with that
Me, neither, too. Your post is too abstract to decipher into practical actions, such as How to Make Gold. I am confused - are you looking for a barber-shaver or are you searching for secret ingredients to promote beard-growth?
the eastern front!
The Eastern Front has been the common man's equivalent of Going to the Entrance of the Tuat for quite a while now. It's that part of the world where East meets West (without an ocean in-between. The present disagreement can be traced back to ww2, then ww1, then backer further to Genghis Khan and the Teutonic Orders looking at each other across a river. Surely, you (anyone at all) can think of (or look up) other historical squabbles in this never-ending Hot Zone.
My condolences to our resident Putin/genocide fans at the unfortunate sinking today of the Russian flagship cruiser Moskva, whether due to a Ukrainian missile, as the Ukrainians say, or utterly unprecedented incompetence by the Russian Navy, as the Russians (somewhat less plausibly) claim:
“I am not aware previously of a fire onboard a capital warship which had led to the ammunition magazine exploding as a consequence,” one official said, calling it “remarkably inept” if true.
The Russians only have 2 more cruiser-class ships, both, like the sadly sunken Moskva, Soviet-era ships (all built in the Ukrainian SSR- there's irony for you). They will doubtless be more careful in future.