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Azidonis
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15/07/2011 3:11 am  

93,

A couple of years ago we had a thread about what book was on your bedside table.

How about if you were stranded on a deserted island? If you were stranded on a deserted island, and you could only have five (5) books, which books would they be?

And to keep the "Holy Books" from being on everyone's list, let's make it a bit more interesting... each of Crowley's "libers" count as one book each. Actually, let's make each of his independent works count as one book each. So you could say, "The Temple of Solomon the King", but could not say "The Equinox volume I", or Volume I Nos. 1-10. Note that some volumes of the Equinox are simply one book, so that would be fair. Of course, we would have to treat everyone's works equally, so all works follow the same rule.

My list:

Liber AL vel Legis by Crowley
Liber VII by Crowley
The Book of Mutations by R.L. Gillis
Siva Sutras by Jaideva Singh
The Heart Sutra

93 93/93


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15/07/2011 3:30 am  

Liber IV
Finnegans Wake
Book of Lies
Liber LXV
American Book of the Dead


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stanforda
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15/07/2011 3:56 am  

The Nightside of Eden
The Outer Gateways
777
The Confessions of Aleister Crowley
The New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures


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15/07/2011 4:22 am  

5 books of matches...


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Azidonis
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15/07/2011 4:28 am  
"666TSAEB" wrote:
5 books of matches...

Touche!


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15/07/2011 4:33 am  

Against the Light by K.G.
Outer Gateways by K.G.
Outside the Circles of Time by K.G.
Azoetia by Chumbley
Qutub by Chumbley


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15/07/2011 8:39 am  

"Magick in Theory & Practice", by AC
"The Illuminatus! Trilogy", by RAW
"The Book of Ugly Ecstasy", by AOS
"Promethea", by Alan Moore
"Wraeththu", by Storm Constantine


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15/07/2011 10:33 am  

The SAS Survival Handbook - John Wiseman
Playboy: The Complete Centrefolds -Hugh Hefner
Liber AL - Crowley
Liber E - Crowley
Liber O - Crowley

That should cover all requirements.


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15/07/2011 12:18 pm  

The SAS Survival Handbook - John Wiseman
Liber ABA - Crowley
Histories - Herodotus
Critical Path - Buckminster Fuller
Prometheus Rising - Robert Anton Wilson


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15/07/2011 12:47 pm  
"nashimiron" wrote:
Liber AL - Crowley
Liber E - Crowley
Liber O - Crowley

93!

Just a quick tip: All three of them are included in the Blue Brick! This would give you the chance to choose another two...

Love=Law
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15/07/2011 1:44 pm  

After receiving my copy this morning, I would be sure to add Richard Cole's highly entertaining "The Un-Magickal Record of The Great Beast 666" Vol 1. A lovely treat to thumb through under a palm tree when the sun is too hot for intense reading.


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Azidonis
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15/07/2011 3:16 pm  
"the_real_simon_iff" wrote:
"nashimiron" wrote:
Liber AL - Crowley
Liber E - Crowley
Liber O - Crowley

93!

Just a quick tip: All three of them are included in the Blue Brick! This would give you the chance to choose another two...

Love=Law
Lutz

This is unfortunate, as more than one person has said Liber IV thus far. I suppose one could say the published Liber IV, as opposed to the blue brick, as the blue brick could possibly be against the rules of this little exercise (debatable).


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15/07/2011 4:24 pm  

One's own Magical Record.
Starfire catalogue.
Three Hands Press catalogue.
Weiser Antiquarian catalogue.
Cheque book.


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15/07/2011 4:49 pm  

For today this will do :

Confessions by Crowley
The Law Is For All by Aiwass, Crowley and Regardie
Magick Without Tears by Crowley
Cults of The Shadow by Grant
The Book of Pleasure by Spare


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15/07/2011 4:55 pm  
"Azidonis" wrote:
"666TSAEB" wrote:
5 books of matches...

Touche!

Okay, all joking aside - I think this list of "bricks” would cover most needs in a desperate situation:

The Blue Brick (Book 4 - Liber ABA) As long as you have you reading glasses with you on the island for all the fine print therein.

The Red Brick (Gems from the Equinox) next best thing to having the full set.

The Yellow Brick (The Supernatural Omnibus) or some other such huge fictional compilation, perhaps even "The Drug and Other Stories."

The Green Brick (SAS Survival Handbook) Revised Edition: For Any Climate, in Any Situation.

The Black Brick (Playboy: The Complete Centerfolds) Hardcover, Deluxe Edition in custom black briefcase, 736pp

Seems Amazon has a few of ours included in theirs:

http://www.amazon.com/Books-Needed-Survive-Deserted-Island/lm/I994ORM74G6S


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Azidonis
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15/07/2011 5:10 pm  
"666TSAEB" wrote:
"Azidonis" wrote:
"666TSAEB" wrote:
5 books of matches...

Touche!

Okay, all joking aside - I think this list of "bricks” would cover most needs in a desperate situation:

The Blue Brick (Book 4 - Liber ABA) As long as you have you reading glasses with you on the island for all the fine print therein.

The Red Brick (Gems from the Equinox) next best thing to having the full set.

The Yellow Brick (The Supernatural Omnibus) or some other such huge fictional compilation, perhaps even "The Drug and Other Stories."

The Green Brick (SAS Survival Handbook) Revised Edition: For Any Climate, in Any Situation.

The Black Brick (Playboy: The Complete Centerfolds) Hardcover, Deluxe Edition in custom black briefcase, 736pp

Seems Amazon has a few of ours included in theirs:

http://www.amazon.com/Books-Needed-Survive-Deserted-Island/lm/I994ORM74G6S

I see number 1 is the NIV holy bible... I guess it would be okay to use as kindling.

I'm loving the Playboy inserts... classic. And Noc, you have quite a good one yourself with the catalogs and checkbook!

I thought at first 5 blank journals and enough pens to fill them all, but well, ya.

I'm sure you've all heard this joke:

A man was stranded on a deserted island with [insert desirable woman's name here]. After about a month on the island, neither of them could take it anymore, and they began having sex. They had wonderful, carnal sex for about three months daily.

One day the man was really depressed. [Insert desirable woman's name here] walked up to him and asked, "Why do you look so upset?" He replied, "Do you really want to know?" "Yes," she said. "Well okay, here put on this shirt, these pants, these shoes..." He handed her all of his clothing and she put them on. "Okay, now stay right here. I'll be right back." "Okay," she said.

The man took off running. He ran all the way around the island, and ran right up to her and said, "Dude! You won't believe who I've been fucking for the last three months!"


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christibrany
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15/07/2011 5:41 pm  

1. Magick/Book IV - Yu No Hu
2. Against the Light - KG
3. Wind-up Bird Chronicle - Haruki Murakami
4. Outer Gateways- KG
5. Necronomicon - HP Lovecraft ( a barnes and noble thing with all the stories)

thats a tough choice though. one or two might want to get switched out. but thats off the top of my head.


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15/07/2011 5:43 pm  

Noctifer a whole catalogue doesnt count haha


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15/07/2011 5:52 pm  

1. Liber Al
2. 777
3. 50 year ephemeris (can't honestly see me getting past 100)
4. Heinleins Stranger in a Strange land
5. Dummys Guide to Building a Still 😀


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15/07/2011 6:10 pm  

Just five - difficult choice:

Against the Light - Kenneth Grant
The Book of the Law
The Confessions of Aleister Crowley
The Book of Pleasure - Spare
Zos Speaks! - the Grants.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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15/07/2011 6:11 pm  
"christibrany" wrote:
Noctifer a whole catalogue doesnt count haha

The idea was that with said volumes I could conjure any book to visible and tangible appearance, once psychic control of a postal carrier-albatross had been secured.

Fine. "Desert Island Books" it is, although this time it doesn't appear to be only Crowley's works, from the first post. Presuming we're talking "magick, Crowley, etc.", and is confined to already-published works, then:

Opuscula Magica volume I (probably my favourite book on magic), by Chumbley.
Outer Gateways (probably my favourite book on mysticism), by Grant.
The Book of the Law, by Crowley.
Cosmic Meditation, by Bertiaux.
A blank notebook.

Addendum: If a monograph of Steffi Grant's artworks ever appears, it will automatically go to the top of the list.


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15/07/2011 6:24 pm  
"spike418" wrote:
1. Liber Al
2. 777
3. 50 year ephemeris (can't honestly see me getting past 100)
4. Heinleins Stranger in a Strange land
5. Dummys Guide to Building a Still 😀

I like the Dummies Guide to Building a Still idea, but I wouldn't waste an entire book choice on it. You can memorize the key process here using island resources in minutes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_wine


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15/07/2011 8:15 pm  
"666TSAEB" wrote:
"spike418" wrote:
1. Liber Al
2. 777
3. 50 year ephemeris (can't honestly see me getting past 100)
4. Heinleins Stranger in a Strange land
5. Dummys Guide to Building a Still 😀

I like the Dummies Guide to Building a Still idea, but I wouldn't waste an entire book choice on it. You can memorize the key process here using island resources in minutes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_wine

Ah yes Palm wine, but methinks you want proper instructions to distil unless you fancy going blind due to the poisons. Which is not the greatest outcome on a desert island with only books for company 😉


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15/07/2011 9:24 pm  
"nashimiron" wrote:
The SAS Survival Handbook - John Wiseman

What a great choice nashimiron! Wiseman's book was my Bible from the age of 10 to 15. Superb!

John


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16/07/2011 4:18 am  

1. Magical Revival by Mr. Grant
2. Confessions by AC
3. Titus Groan by Mervyn Peake
4. The Giant's Thumb by AC
5. Complete Fiction of HP Lovecraft ... in no particular order ....

although Liber VII comes in 6th! Wow, I'm missing my other books already..... 😥


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16/07/2011 8:44 am  

Five books with blank pages -and several pens...

😀


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16/07/2011 11:43 am  

I liked Nashimiron's very pragmatic take on this dubious venture - and a lot else, besides.

Not sure whether Azidonis may be aware of the long-running BBC Radio 4 programme 'Desret Island Discs' where celebrated people are invited to select their 8 favourite/most significant pieces of music. They also get to take with them the 'Compleat Works of Shakespeare, and 'The Bible' as a a matter of cultural necessity, of course.

Its great to hear the likes of Terry Gilliam and Debbie Harry responding to this magnanimous suggestion !

OK here's my five, and I don't care if I'm cheating:

1. Liber AL (uncommented by anyone apart from AnfK, thank you).

2. Magick (edited by KG and JS; bought my copy in 1975 e.v. and I would be 'Lost' without it).

3. Hecate's Fountain (hard to choose one of KG's books, but this is the most magically enigmatic and I need to further explore his 'Outside' take on Liber AL.

4. The Glass Bead Game - Herman Hesse (have possessed a copy for ages, but have still not read it YET).

5. Hebrew Torah/Old Testament (a never failing source for heretical mind mine-workings and the source of all Qabbalah).

And should I get disillusioned with this programme of beatific hermithood, I can always trudge the short distance to the other end of Oesopus Island and borrow that battered copy of Playboy centrefolds....

Cheers - S.A.


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Azidonis
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16/07/2011 4:34 pm  
"Satan'sAdvocaat" wrote:
Not sure whether Azidonis may be aware of the long-running BBC Radio 4 programme 'Desret Island Discs' where celebrated people are invited to select their 8 favourite/most significant pieces of music.

No Azidonis isn't... but the theme of the thread is a fairly common theater for brainstorming. The whole "what if, scenario" and all.

Plus, it has been a bit more fun thus far than reading long drawn out posts. Levity is healthy, and this site needs it.

They also get to take with them the 'Compleat Works of Shakespeare, and 'The Bible' as a a matter of cultural necessity, of course.

I wouldn't mind taking the Complete Works of Shakespeare. I actually own that book, and find it delightful. I do not see it as a cultural necessity.

The Bible... well, I have absolutely zero use for it (other than kindling), and I'll leave it at that.


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16/07/2011 5:23 pm  

Glass Bead Game is a real classic and well worth including.


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16/07/2011 5:47 pm  
"Azidonis" wrote:
The Bible... well, I have absolutely zero use for it (other than kindling), and I'll leave it at that.

I used to have the exact same attitude Azidonis.
But I then started to appreciate the immense value of the Bible as a reference for my magick.

I seem to remember AC said something along the lines of "the Bible being one of the best manuals of ancient magick there is. Can anyone remember where this quote was from?"

But then he also said "If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad."

In my opinion the best edition is The New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures. I've chosen this as the fifth book on my list for its reference value. And the incredible accuracy of the translation.

John


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Azidonis
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16/07/2011 7:27 pm  
"stanforda" wrote:
"Azidonis" wrote:
The Bible... well, I have absolutely zero use for it (other than kindling), and I'll leave it at that.

I used to have the exact same attitude Azidonis.
But I then started to appreciate the immense value of the Bible as a reference for my magick.

I seem to remember AC said something along the lines of "the Bible being one of the best manuals of ancient magick there is. Can anyone remember where this quote was from?"

But then he also said "If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad."

In my opinion the best edition is The New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures. I've chosen this as the fifth book on my list for its reference value. And the incredible accuracy of the translation.

John

Awesome. I'm glad you have use for it. I won't deny that some have a use for it, but I personally don't.

As for the "kindling" comments, the bible is not the only book included in that. There are quite a few books which, if stranded on a deserted island, I would be more inclined to use them for helping start a fire on a windy day than to read them.

Books are just books. Collections of material with symbols printed on them. The only value those symbols have is the value that the individual places upon them. As such, some symbols simply have little to no value for me. That does not necessarily mean that they do not have value for others. Everyone benefits from their own personalized symbol set.


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17/07/2011 5:24 am  
"stanforda" wrote:
"Azidonis" wrote:
I seem to remember AC said something along the lines of "the Bible being one of the best manuals of ancient magick there is. Can anyone remember where this quote was from?"
John

That would be MTP: A.·.A.·. Curriculum, I personally prefer The Golden Bough on this subject matter.


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Azidonis
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17/07/2011 8:29 am  
"666TSAEB" wrote:
I personally prefer The Golden Bough on this subject matter.

I've tried so many times to read that book... it's great if I want a quick nap though! 🙂


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17/07/2011 10:05 pm  

Liber ABA - for its sheer depth and wealth of information
Liber LXV - for its beauty, wisdom and guidance
Faust, A Tragedy by Goethe - due it being as enticing as unfathomable
The Science of Logic by Hegel - to ward off insanity
The Book of Thoth (cards) - to become learned in all matters (as Lévi once said).

That should cover my bases.
Markus


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19/07/2011 10:54 am  

I'm glad my choice of the SAS Survival Handbook has met with so much approval!

I chose Libers E & O to keep with the spirit of Azidonis original intent, but if I was to take "Magick" with me I would choose the Grant / Symonds edition. In this kind of situation you want to be travelling light, and in times of crisis when you need to pick up and run, such as when the cannibals from the other side of the island attack, the superfluousness of the superfluities of the big blue brick would become all too apparent.

😯


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19/07/2011 12:37 pm  

I find the blue brick most effective in knocking cannibals unconscious. It works on non-cannibals too. So I'm told.


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