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Hello and 93,

 

I've been pursuing a personal project of tracking down received transmissions beyond the official Class A Publications.  I've managed to track down every one that I've heard minus one.

 

Liber Ku'Wa by a Frater ABRANeShR of a Tempus Aurum Diva.  I've only seen it mentioned in passing on one site whose owner says that he knows nothing about it.

 

Has anyone else out there run across this?  Does anyone have any further leads on it?

 

Thank you in advance,

93, 

Tzeenj

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By received transmissions do you have guidelines on in a particular subject, topic, or Current?

There are a lot of creative writings going around. Some holy some not. 

Just want some clarification please.

 

thank you

 

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Posted by: @tzeenj

... whose owner says that he knows nothing about it.

Neither do I. Know Nothing. About it (the transmission).

I congratulate you on your search and your collection. I encourage you to use these to obtain your own transmission, which is the only one that really counts.

 


   
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Posted by: @christibrany

By received transmissions do you have guidelines on in a particular subject, topic, or Current?

There are a lot of creative writings going around. Some holy some not. 

Just want some clarification please.

 

thank you

 

93s

 

For the purposes of this discussion, i've been collecting Thelemic, holy book type received transmissions but I have gathered them from other currents too. I've gathered every one that I have heard of so far except for Liber Ku'Wa. 

 

and the Book of Desolation, of course, but that's because the Book of Desolation just plain does not exist.  😉 


   
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... whose owner says that he knows nothing about it.

Neither do I. Know Nothing. About it (the transmission).

I congratulate you on your search and your collection. I encourage you to use these to obtain your own transmission, which is the only one that really counts.

 

 

Thank you!  It's proven a very interesting project so far.  And indeed, that is part of my motivation.


   
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I've been pursuing a personal project of tracking down received transmissions beyond the official Class A Publications.  I've managed to track down every one that I've heard minus one.

Firstly: Greetings, and whatnot, tzeenj! 

By virtue of Sod's Law, this will probably be the one which really counts... (Would the rest of them be in preparation for some alternative vision/version of Liber Nuts perhaps, or what?)

Posted by: @shiva

... I encourage you to use these to obtain your own transmission, which is the only one that really counts.

Could you have intended (passive to oneself) "reception" rather than (active towards others) "transmission"?  if not, maybe you could expound expand on what you mean?

Unhairsplittingly yours:

Norma N Joy Conquest


   
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Firstly: Greetings, and whatnot, tzeenj! 

By virtue of Sod's Law, this will probably be the one which really counts... (Would the rest of them be in preparation for some alternative vision/version of Liber Nuts perhaps, or what?)

Thank you!  I'll confess that I've used the page for research for years but only now decided to actually become a member.

 

I do keep wondering if that is the case. If/when I do find it, it'll either open doors for me or be a total wallbanger.  I can't even turn up anything for  Frater ABRANeShR or Tempus Aurum Diva aside from the page where I first saw it mentioned.   

 

I'm trying not to judge anything, I just want to find what's out there and see what it can say to me, and perhaps prime my psyche to become more open to such gnosis myself.  


   
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Posted by: @tzeenj

Liber Ku'Wa by a Frater ABRANeShR of a Tempus Aurum Diva.  I've only seen it mentioned in passing on one site whose owner says that he knows nothing about it.

 

Has anyone else out there run across this?  Does anyone have any further leads on it?

https://basileus-oto.org/content/pr_prophets.pdf

 


   
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Could you have intended (passive to oneself) "reception" rather than (active towards others) "transmission"?  if not, maybe you could expound expand on what you mean?

No. It was clear enough in the first place.

 


   
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Could you have intended (passive to oneself) "reception" rather than (active towards others) "transmission"?  if not, maybe you could expound expand on what you mean?

No. It was clear enough in the first place.

Yes, you're quite right: you actually meant "reception", but put down the word "transmission" by mistake instead.

Don't worry about it though - it's easily done (I suppose).

Non-nitpickingly yours,

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Yes, you're quite right: you actually meant "reception", but put down the word "transmission" by mistake instead.

Trans means "across." There are two ends in a transmission. One sends. The other receives. Sometimes it goes two ways, simultaneously. Nits.

 


   
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Sometimes it goes two ways, simultaneously

Like the AUM - OM mentioned recently elsewhere, maybe.


   
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Like the AUM - OM mentioned recently elsewhere, maybe.

Exactly.

 


   
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No. It was clear enough in the first place.

Shame you couldn't exactly have said it back in the first place.

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So, here's a question, has anyone out there even heard of Tempus Aurum Diva and/or Frater ABRANeShR at all?  Those could at least provide me with some leads.


   
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anyone out there even heard of Tempus Aurum Diva and/or Frater ABRANeShR at all?

No. Sorry.


   
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I am afraid I cannot help, but I would like to thank @herupakraath for his link to that Russian pdf.

It's easily readable if you use Google translate.

I think that received texts are fascinating. I wish there were more, but they are always difficult to read.

IMO the best by far are Crowley's - I mean, by light years.

I suppose the next most famous are the catholic ones by Hildegaard of Bingen and St John of the Cross.

There is the colossal Book of Urantia, and the very boring Oahspe, a New Bible.

I have Norton's edition of C C Jung's The Red Book, which doesn't have the drawings, and they are the only interesting part.

Lastly, leastly, there is the outsider art book called The Story of the Vivian Girls by Henry Darger. I am not sure if that was "received", but since it runs to 15,000 single-spaced foolscap pages I'd imagine some sort of trance was involved. It is quite possible that no one except the author has ever read it.


   
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Posted by: @tzeenj

For the purposes of this discussion, i've been collecting Thelemic, holy book type received transmissions but I have gathered them from other currents too. I've gathered every one that I have heard of so far except for Liber Ku'Wa. 

Dwtw

Have you gotten this one yet?

https://solignere.com/book-of-the-seven-spirits

 

Litlluw

Omega Logion 9=2


   
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Omega

Dwtw

This term once applied to the Tibetan lineage in which I received empowerments. The term was never explained and, admittedly, I never asked. I assumed, at the time, it might have hinted at "The End," as in alpha and omega, and perhaps even implying the end of one's search, which it was and was not, for me.

Would you care to expound a little on your take of the word?

Litlluw

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Have you gotten this one yet?

https://solignere.com/book-of-the-seven-spirits

 

No, I had not! I hadn't even heard of this one! Thank you so much!


   
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Omega

Dwtw

This term once applied to the Tibetan lineage in which I received empowerments. The term was never explained and, admittedly, I never asked. I assumed, at the time, it might have hinted at "The End," as in alpha and omega, and perhaps even implying the end of one's search, which it was and was not, for me.

Would you care to expound a little on your take of the word?

Litlluw

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Dwtw

The motto Omega Logion is meant, in part, to be an homage to my predecessor Magus,

To Mega Therion.

In his book Liber B vel Magi, he says that "He is the First and the Last", so the Omega as the last Greek letter refers to that. Omega 'spelled in full' also has the value of 849, the same as EThELŌ, meaning 'to will, to love'; it therefore combines the concept of Love under Will in one word.

The second word Logion means an Oracle, its value is 233, a Fibonacci number. It is closely related to the word Logos, and of course the task of the Magus is to utter a Word. Also, we are now in the Lovers year of the Hierophant cycle, and the name of this card is "The Oracle of the Mighty Gods".

Together the two words sum to 1082 = Ouroboros, the snake that devours its own tail; a fitting symbol of cyclic Change.

 

I should add that last night I finally made visual contact with Comet NEOWISE, and I can now say without hesitation that this comet was the confirmation of the coming of a new Magus. The home of the Magus is in Chokmah, which means Wisdom. The name NEO-WISE can be translated as a New Wise One, i.e., a new inhabitant of Chokmah.

I accepted the Grade and the burden of that attainment on March 20, 2020 e.v. Exactly 7 days later, Comet NEOWISE was discovered. In the interval, I have gathered much information from this harbinger, some of which will be made public at the appropriate time. 

The gematria of NEO-WISE = 83.

My Word - Katalysis = 1162 = 14 x 83.

The fact that such a large prime is related to both of these words is not a coincidence. Sometimes an 'outside' confirmation is provided. Make what you will of all this information, but it is the Truth.

 

Litlluw

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@threefold31

 

Am I wrong in stating that Omega is 800 in Greek 'gematria' (Isopsephy)?  How do you spell it out to make it 849?

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I accepted the Grade and the burden of that attainment on March 20, 2020 e.v. Exactly 7 days later, Comet NEOWISE was discovered. In the interval, I have gathered much information from this harbinger, some of which will be made public at the appropriate time. 

Sounds like you and @xon have a lot to talk about.  He made the comet appear after all. 


   
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@threefold31

 

Am I wrong in stating that Omega is 800 in Greek 'gematria' (Isopsephy)?  How do you spell it out to make it 849?

 

Dwtw

 

Yes, Omega the letter by itself has a value of 800.

O-Mega as a letter-name (meaning 'large O'), spelled 'in full' is:

omega-mu-epsilon-gamma-alpha = 800 + 40 + 5 + 3 + 1

 

Litlluw

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@threefold31

 

Thanks! I have never personally dealt with Greek, yet. Only Hebrew. 


   
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@christibrany

 

Dwtw

Most of the Greek letter-names don't mean anything, unlike Hebrew.

The exceptions are O-Mega 'large or long O", and O-Mikron 'small or short O'

both referring to their pronunciation.

Litlluw

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Sounds like you and have a lot to talk about.  He made the comet appear after all. 

These types of mass events aren't zero sum to me in this context. That's more of a Black School of Magick thing to do. Trying to get people arguing. Fighting over inconsequential egocentric entitlement claims of exclusivity. As though people all over the world don't have their own things going on.

Doesn't seem like @threefold31 is about that zero sum mindset.

Success is thy proof.

As I said about Comet Holmes in a post 9 years ago:

Posted by: @xon

The comet was a shared experience and means something different to everyone. This is only what it meant to me.

The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events is a received book that covers this material.

There is always the future for more signs, as well. It's not really prediction when you've lived through this before.

About a dozen big drops from the Grue are going to happen soon. Should be quite something.


   
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@xon

 

Dwtw

Hey, if you can manifest a comet, you're more advanced than me! LOL

My interest is in the name-coincidences and the information I've gleaned from its presence.

But it's here for all humanity to see; I think that's the point of comets, isn't it?

At least the really bright ones always seem to be harbingers.

Just to clarify, I don't think it came here strictly on my behalf;

it's signaling a forthcoming change, one part of which is related to my Word...

or perhaps it's the other way around.

Litlluw

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Hey, if you can manifest a comet, you're more advanced than me! LOL

LOL

We all have our roles. 🎭

I want to say "oh it's not me it's the power of such and such" like Melisandre. In a way it sort of is. The experience with V'ger and Holmes was celestial in nature and has influenced my work in that realm.


   
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About a dozen big drops from the Grue are going to happen soon. Should be quite something.

How will they be recognizable when they happen?

Since you know about these "big drops from the Grue" in advance, why not be specific and dazzle us all with your siddhis?

My understanding of "Grues" is that they eat folks; this implies that they must defecate from time to time. Is this what is meant by "big drops from the Grue"?

What does it mean for a mass event to be "zero sum"? Or "not zero-sum"? Do you mean that your ritual caused comet NEOWISE, but so did other stuff, like its rotation in a 6,800 year cycle around the planet? Would the comet still have passed if you had not done your ritual, or had erred in doing it?

What does a dead crow you buried 13 years ago have to do with a comet this year?


   
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I predict someone will play the imaginary-victim card here.  Imaginary.  That's my prediction, no comet's millennial orbit involved.  

Why would someone come here announcing their magical stature?

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


   
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Very likely so. And we certainly won't get any actual predictions/advance explanations of what "Grue drops" are, since he realizes that he will look even more foolish than usual when they fail to pan out. And can't wait for the big V'ger events of October 23 (that will fail to occur, or will involve a magickal dead bird again or something).

An interesting tid-bit: in the dead crow story, we learn that our Comrade From Canada is vegan.

So, my intuition in saying "you almost certainly don't eat meat, and very probably don't eat cheese" is proven correct- we see why he never denied it. Because it's true.

Which means that he almost certainly does carry a water bottle everywhere he goes, as i accused him of doing. After all, as a man approaching middle age, who is very anxious to be seen as "with it", and "hep" to all the latest youth pop culture things, he must copy this teenage/millennial habit.


   
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Ah the water bottle yes.  The crow thing was tragic yknow he was releasing the crow's soul into the ether.....but it wasn't his pet, he saw it dead on the road but went back a week later to go and shovel it up and bring it back home. 

Imagine if there was a crime around that area that night and some cop on his night shift had to watch the CCTV footage and there's our Great Adept getting out of his car to pick the crow up haha.  You'd have to make a call to ask what the fuck he was doing.  How do you explain your way out of that?  Haha.

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Ah the water bottle yes. 

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Given what we are told is the slow pace of evolution, it is hard to imagine how human hydration needs could have accelerated so massively within a generation. Maybe Lamarck and Lysenko were right after all?

But anyone spending 10 minutes in any busy public place (assuming they still have those round your way in these Plague Times) will see that almost everyone under 30 is carrying a water bottle.

And, of course, some much older folks, those who are anxious to appear "hep" to the kids' "jive", also have their Hydroflasks, and Nalgenes, aping the habits of the young. Most likely @xon has the former because it is super-trendy.


   
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Imagine if there was a crime around that area that night and some cop on his night shift had to watch the CCTV footage and there's our Great Adept getting out of his car to pick the crow up haha.  You'd have to make a call to ask what the fuck he was doing.  How do you explain your way out of that?  Haha.

😝

'What are you doing here son?'

'Sir, I am picking up this dead crow and taking it to a place where I can properly release it's soul into the ether'

'You been drinkin tonight? Ether you say?'

'No sir, I believe my nalgene bottle is the only thing I have been imbibing thus far.'

'What?'

'No sir'

'Drop that animal and step away- it's a health hazard (Dispatch,  possible 10-30 echo. repeat possible 10-30 echo over. immediate 10-64 and 10-65 needed over.) Now just stay calm son, you have blood on your hands. Just take a seat and we'll talk about this'

Ambulance and armed escort arrives. ..

 

 

 


   
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@ignant666

 

Here in the high altitudes we routinely carry hydration around when we are walking outdoors for longer than say 45 mins and not around any public utilities, so I have a nalgene!  But I definitely dont' carry it around all the time.  Just sayin' 


   
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I spend lots of time in the woods (in a normal year), and own two myself. And at least 3 24-ounce insulated water bottles for when on the bike. And my teenage son carries his Hydroflask everywhere, and i even drink my morning coffee from one of their superb vacuum-insulated cups, which i also use when camping. Keeps coffee hot for almost an hour. ignant666 Approved®

But i am talking like on the street, on the subway, in a mall, on a school campus where there are water fountains in all buildings, that type of use that did not exist in the very recent past.

Reminded of the W.C. Fields line expressing his disgust at the thought of drinking water: "Water?! Fish fuck in it!"

What part of Colo are you in?  Was there last May, visited Durango, where an old bass-player lives, and 12 hours in Grand Junction when Greyhound decided to screw me (saving me from spending the same amount of time on a bus stuck on the interstate behind snow and rockslide; gotta love that divine guidance), and then a few days in Ft Collins where one of my few living close friends lives. The one who used to be a Hebrew Israelite, later the first black pro mountain bike racer, which is why he lives there. He is no longer racing pro but still a monster, at 56.


   
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Given what we are told is the slow pace of evolution, it is hard to imagine how human hydration needs could have accelerated so massively within a generation. Maybe Lamarck and Lysenko were right after all?

But anyone spending 10 minutes in any busy public place (assuming they still have those round your way in these Plague Times) will see that almost everyone under 30 is carrying a water bottle.

And, of course, some much older folks, those who are anxious to appear "hep" to the kids' "jive", also have their Hydroflasks, and Nalgenes, aping the habits of the young. Most likely @xon has the former because it is super-trendy.

Water bottles, what the Hell is that? Does it give off some sporty image? 

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It's evolution, david. The young people just get thirsty.


   
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@dom Around here we are at altitude and its super dry. Like no humidity ever, therefore high UV as well, so even on campus they are carrying them around. But I can see that because a lot of our buildings dont have fountains they have refill stations.  Before the ol' covid hit I would use the library and gym as alumnus. Its a bit hit or miss, the reasoning behind it.  I cant see it being sensible everywhere though. 


   
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But it's here for all humanity to see; I think that's the point of comets, isn't it?

At least the really bright ones always seem to be harbingers.

Just to clarify, I don't think it came here strictly on my behalf;

it's signaling a forthcoming change, one part of which is related to my Word...

or perhaps it's the other way around.

To clarify any misunderstanding between what I meant with my prediction of signs with what someone else said that I said: I didn't say I "manifested" as in I created it. LOL.  I said there would be signs in the heavens(celestial) immediately after the Greatest Hexagram Ceremony during the planetary alignment in early July.

Glad to hear its transmissions go well with your Word too and the announcement of your attainment. ☄️

 

 

 


   
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What part of Colo are you in? 

I am on the front range near Denver. 


   
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I said there would be signs in the heavens(celestial) immediately after the Greatest Hexagram Ceremony during the planetary alignment in early July.

And I said there are signs in the heavens, constantly.  You are falling into the fantasists trap, that everything is about you.  Or at best you are making 'predictions' such as 'The Sun Will Rise Tomorrow In the East!' 


   
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I said there would be signs in the heavens(celestial) immediately after the Greatest Hexagram Ceremony during the planetary alignment in early July.

Wouldn't the "signs in the heavens" have been there regardless of your "working", what with the 6,800 year orbit and whatnot?

There are "signs in the heavens" every single night for those who look hard enough.


   
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Imagine being born into a world where your head is permanently stuck in a mobile phone screen from then on.  That's where the young are at today. 

 

Ok I've noticed it where I work I'm like wtf is it with the water bottles?  Supermarkets even sell special big water bottles to cater for them.  I drink water also and daily but at meal times only.  I think you're teasing me about evolutionary dehydration however if you're not I would add to that the capacity for decent musical taste in young people as it's also being phased out by evolution. Have you checked out some of the latest big things in music or their top 20? 

Furthermore wtf is this trend to wear rock band's t-shirts whose music they are clearly not fans of?  

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Glad to hear its transmissions go well with your Word too and the announcement of your attainment.

Yes; I couldn't find a suitable card, so unorthodox though it may seem I wonder if I can be allowed to hereby offer my heartiest congratulations to you upon your attainment (to 9=2, I believe wasn't it?) here on @lashtal.  (Maybe somebody else could start up a collection?)

All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow..."

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I couldn't find a suitable card

Some wily entrepreneur will surely jump on this open market for grade-elevation Congratulations cards? So many Magi, and Magisters and Adepts about.

Can just recycle graduation cards with more pentagrams.

 


   
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9=2

That was :

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Omega Logion 9=2

 


   
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Posted by: @jamiejbarter

9=2

That was :

Posted by: @threefold31

Omega Logion 9=2

Why, thank you for that supplemental information there, mal!  And his Word was ---?

Delighted in being spoonfedfully yours,

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Posted by: @ignant666

 

Which means that he almost certainly does carry a water bottle everywhere he goes, as i accused him of doing. After all, as a man approaching middle age, who is very anxious to be seen as "with it", and "hep" to all the latest youth pop culture things, he must copy this teenage/millennial habit.

..and a conspicuous omission of a come back towards being classed as  'an unemployable nut living in his mom's basement'.   

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


   
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