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13/03/2019 5:40 pm  

AC somewhere or other says that Thelemites, if male, ought to shave their heads except for a tuft in front, the "solar-phallic forelock", and, if female, to henna their hair.

I can't recall any actual photo of even AC sporting this hair-style. The Engers-Kennedy portrait shows the forelock, and a shaved (or balding?) bit in front, but hair on the sides and back of the head behind the ears, and is of course not necessarily a realistic depiction. There are many pics of him with a tuftless dome, of course, but are there any with his head shaved, and an unshaved forelock?

I am curious how many, if any, among us, or those we've known over the years, follow this tonsorial regime?

I, as those with eyes can see, do shave my head, both for cultural reasons as a retired skinhead/punk, and for the very practical reason that my hair is rather thinning in the front top of the head region.

As a high-school student around 1972-3, i, under the influence of strange drugs, shaved my head with front tuft more or less a la the Engers-Kennedy portrait, except with much longer hair in the unshaven region rear of the ears. More or less a Solar-Phallic Mullet. This may have contributed to my reputation of being a weirdo.


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13/03/2019 10:05 pm  

Ig: Thelemites, if male, ought to shave their heads except for a tuft in front, the “solar-phallic forelock”, and, if female, to henna their hair.

This counts pretty low on the Deviation List under There is no law beyond do what thou wilt.

I am curious how many, if any, among us, or those we’ve known over the years, follow this tonsorial regime?

I think it's ridiculous (as a cult identifier) and it does not conform to wearing the robe of the country in which you are traveling. But that wasn't AC's rule, was it?

Answer: No, not me ... and nobody else I know or have known.


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13/03/2019 10:53 pm  

I agree it is a silly hairstyle, though any big city is full of folks with silly hair these days, and also agree that mandatory Thelemic hairstyles seems a bit contradictory. On the other hand, AC in his writings demanded that Thelemites engage in all sorts of silly behaviors, from saying "Will", to "Thelemic greetings"; the list goes on and on.

I think the hair-edict was from the Cefalu Abbey period. In the family picture in front of the Abbey in the Confessions, we can't tell if he has the approved 'do, because he is wearing kilts and a Scottish bonnet (which seems warmish, all that wool, for that part of the world).

I strongly suspect there are few if any who have complied, but was just curious.


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14/03/2019 1:48 am  

Aleister Crowley's physical appearance changed so much over the years. This seems to make it difficult for actors who portray him to choose a look that is both accurate and syncs up with how the general public remembers AC. The general public usually assumes that the Apocalypse Now shaved head portrait (Crowley in his 30s) to be what AC looks like. But in his later years he was rather thin and had hair again.

One of my favorite pictures of Crowley is with shaved head holding a pipe. He looking to be in his later years probably aged 70.

It will interesting to see what Angus Macfadyen does with the AC character on the second season of Strange Angel TV series.


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14/03/2019 2:43 pm  

This is a standard gatekeepers who quibble over who qualifies to describe themselves as a "Thelemite" haven't used in my experience.

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14/03/2019 3:00 pm  

Could you clarify some more here, mal? [baffled remarks removed]

Nevermind, i figured out what you are saying- folks don't use this a standard to judge who is a "Thelemite"; agreed.


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14/03/2019 3:57 pm  

“Crowley with shaved head holding a pipe.”

must be a glitch in my interference pattern
for a sec
i thought it was Shiva with the Atlantean Starbase Gateway Router


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14/03/2019 8:13 pm  

I have never heard of that precept nor have I nor any other I have known, practised it.

It sounds a bit Kim Jong Eun-like.


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14/03/2019 8:19 pm  

AC somewhere or other says that Thelemites, if male, ought to shave their heads except for a tuft in front, the “solar-phallic forelock”, and, if female, to henna their hair.

This wasn't intended to be any sort of prescriptive instruction; AC actually wrote it somewhere in his Diary of a Drug Fiend where he was describing the appearance and modes of dress of Thelemites on the island where King Lamus had his Abbey of Thelema. I don't have a copy to hand at the moment so can't dig out the exact reference for you, but think maybe it was in the first part; maybe some other accommodating Lashtalian who does will do the work for us.
To my knowledge, there wasn't any other allusion to this anywhere else (in the canon).

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14/03/2019 9:22 pm  

This seems very plausible as to what i am (so poorly due to old-timer's disease) remembering here, and i thank you for the pointer, but on a quick skim of the Telepylus section of Diary, i can't find any mention of hairstyles. Probably belmurru, or another among us who is more erudite than i, will come up with the answer soon

Note as to any descriptions of Thelemite hairstyles in this novel that Telepylus is "a real place. ... ts customs ... are accurately described" [note, p. 247].

On another topic, how often we all find ourselves saying "[W]e should all be the better for a little heroin" ["King Lamus"/AC, p. 261]. Or not.


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14/03/2019 11:41 pm  

Here we go:

"I must explain that members of the abbey bore certain distinguishing marks. The official costume for those not entitled to the special robes of the A.·.A.·. was a vestment of bright blue hanging from neck to ankle with sleeves widening from shoulder to waist so that on extending the arms horizontally from the body it suggested the letter Tau. It was lined with scarlet and provided with a hood. When desired the dress was completed by a golden girdle. In addition the male members shaved the head with the exception of a single lock in the center of the forehead. The women wore bobbed hair dyed red or yellow with henna. In these customs were symbolized certain spiritual or magical affirmations. The aureole of the women was in honour of our father the sun, and the upstanding lock of hair worn by the men a token of worship to his viceregent in the microcosm."

(The Spirit of Solitude (Confessions), Part Six: At the Abbey of Thelema, Chapter 91)

(On Hermetic here, original pages 880 & 881)

Answer: not me, as well.


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15/03/2019 12:37 am  

I ain't gonna wear no dress and not a girdle too!


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15/03/2019 12:59 am  

ditto


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15/03/2019 1:33 am  

Thank you so much, Serpent 252, for confirming i am not entirely a dotard just yet- but whence the very Crowleyan phrase "solar-phallic forelock"?

To perhaps stretch folks willingness to believe, i was 95% certain the girls had to "bob", as well as henna, their hair, but only 95%, so left this out. For those not soon eligible for old-age benefits, to "bob" one's hair is to cut it at or shorter than the chin, rather than growing it in endless coils like Rapunzel. This was very scandalous (as was henna-ing) in the period in which AC laid down these guidelines for the regulation of aspiring free-thinkers at the Abbey.


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15/03/2019 9:11 am  

Despite missing that reference I'm hopefully not entering my dotard dotage just yet but well spotted there, Serpent252!

As for 'the bobbed hair dyed red or yellow with henna' "for the girls", didn't Jane Wolfe model that style in the shocking '20s, or is that a false memory? Call me mad, but I can see Betty May ('Tiger Woman') with one as well - doing the Charleston!

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And yes, the central mystery of the "solar-phallic forelock" meanwhile still remains unattacked (I wonder, if one were to "tug" that forelock if that then may be a euphemism of some sort?!) As for feeling "better for a little heroin", well that's all very well, the only trouble with it being, as British comedian and ex-doctor Harry Hill put it, "that it's all a bit moreish"...


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15/03/2019 4:14 pm  

The "Solar-Phallic Forelock" may very well be a literary device used to refer to the Lamina Papyracea, the "Paper Plate" or "Blade Plate", often described as "a smooth bone shaped like a leaf". It sets the nasal cavity apart from the brain and is situated close to the ethnoid bone, which forms the area of the skull at the roof of the nose. It sets the nasal cavity apart from the brain.

The ethnoidis right between the two orbits, which contain the eyes, thus it is perfectly positioned with the ajnacakkra. The element attributed to the sense of sight is Fire.


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15/03/2019 4:28 pm  

Thank you for that, but the hypothetical "forelock" is hair not bone, and we are talking about a thing at the front of the hair line (or perhaps drooping down, like a precursor to the Misfits' "devil locks"), not eyebrow level.

The open questions:

Is there any evidence that AC's description of this hairdo is not another of his, um, flights of fancy?

Can anyone find the source of the phrase i am certain i remember "solar-phallic forelock"?

And, i suppose, has any latter-day Thelemite besides myself ever been silly enough to have one? The whole-hearted "Nos" from all concerned attest to the good sense of most here.


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15/03/2019 4:29 pm  

The Solar-Phallic Forelock may very well be a literary device referring to the Lamina Papyracea, the "Paper Plate" or "Blade Plate" often described as "a smooth bone shaped like a leaf. It's situated close to the ethnoid bone, which forms the area of the skull at the roof of the nose, where it sets the naal cavity apart from the brain.

Note the prefix-syllable LAM, the strange entity 666 drew which he sometimes described as the 'future state of humanity'.

It is also sometimes called the Orbital Lamina, because the ethnoid is right between the two Orbits, which contain the eyes: thus, it is perfectly situated (anatomically) at the position of the ajnacakkra.


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15/03/2019 4:32 pm  

I note your remark, but I used the phrase "literary device", not "literal device". And, I didn't mean to repeat myself, but I'm just getting used to using LAShTAL!


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15/03/2019 5:48 pm  

JDE: It sets the nasal cavity apart from the brain and is situated close to the ethnoid bone

I do not wish to introduce violence, as this is such a quietly proceeding thread, but I cannot hel;p but mention that these little bones are the target for certain karate techniques (which result in death). Protect your ethnoid and its neighbors!

Ig: Is there any evidence that AC’s description of this hairdo is not another of his, um, flights of fancy?

Well, there's no hard evidence (like written quotes or photos), but there's hearsay evidence (not admissible) such as me hearing (reading) your "fancy" interrogation ... and me saying, "Yeah, flights."


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16/03/2019 1:11 am  

There is one photo of AC with it. I did a quick search & came up with nothing, but it was for a newspaper or tabloid. I can't remember which at the moment.. sorry Gents. It's out there. I'm guessing that I first saw it in Sandy Robertson's book...


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16/03/2019 8:19 am  

This one is in the galleries.


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16/03/2019 10:53 am  

But is that a "solar-phallic forelock" or a cowlick? A bit Tin-Tin-esque.

There is a lot of hair that has not been shaved- he has not "shaved the head with the exception of a single lock in the center of the forehead".


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16/03/2019 11:07 am  

Indeed, not up to Abbey standards. But it does not look accidental. It is also pre-Abbey, by my estimation of his age.


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16/03/2019 5:07 pm  

Ok then there are two...the one that I'm remembering has the rest of his head shaved. He wasn't a man to prescribe something without doing it himself & benefiting from it. Doctor Crowley... Giving a twist to Allan Bennett's teaching with aplomb.


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17/03/2019 5:00 pm  

Reviewed the Abbey of Thelema section of Symonds' book to see if he would make fun of Abbey dwellers' funny hairdos (since he is always the go-to for anything anti-AC, or belittling him)- he mentions them having "phallic forelocks", but not "solar-phallic forelocks". When i made my teenage attempt to follow these instructions, i did not realize the obvious point that said forelock is to be greased or otherwise induced to stand priapically erect.

I earlier mentioned this important example of the "solar-phallic forelock" (and thus the "93 current") in 20th century pop culture (a Belgian cartoon character called Tin-tin, for my fellow Americans), whose "do" exemplifies that priapic erectness:

Tin-tin showing solar-phallic forelock


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17/03/2019 10:52 pm  

There's a kind of a self-portrait by AC (as To Mega Therion) reproduced in the Arkana edition of the Confessions where he has the forelock. It's quite phallic -- it's shaped like a little cock and balls.

(I found a version of the drawing online. It's tinted purple. I think I remember that he referred to it as the "Horus forelock").

AC self-portrait with bald head and Horus forelock

https://imgur.com/Depq6yc


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18/03/2019 12:12 pm  

There's no disputing, soz, that the "solar-phallic forelock" was part of the AC imaginarium- there are several other self portraits showing it, and in fact the copy of the Confessions that i've been skimming for more on this is that very edition.

The thing is that if AC, or anyone else, ever actually complied with his tonsorial prescription, they escaped being photographed.

Thankfully, there are no photos of my teenage "Solar-Phallic Mullet", but i can tell you it takes a long time to grow out and look even vaguely normal, so we are talking about a pretty long window of missed photographic opportunity.


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18/03/2019 9:07 pm  

I wonder how often he would let his hair grow out, and then shave his head. I remember there's a passage in the Confessions where he wrote that he would keep his head shaved so as to free up every available second. Thinking that he could have shaved his head/styled his forelock in preparation for the Abbey, where there might be a gap in the photographic record.


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18/03/2019 10:36 pm  

Without wishing to pick any nits amongst all the hair ig, Tin Tin doesn't exemplify the 'solar phallic forelock' in 20th century pop culture because
There is a lot of hair that has not been shaved - he has not “shaved the head with the exception of a single lock in the center of the forehead”
- if we look at the picture provided, he has got a lot of hair (down to his ear) on his right (our left) hand side. The bits sticking up are a lot more than a lock, also.

Talking of near-misses, I was once told years ago that Peter Gabriel had such a haircut, as was modelled by him fronting Genesis at the Lincoln festival in 1972 (and can also be seen on the inside gatefold sleeve of their album Foxtrot) but it clearly is not - if anything it looks the other way round in fact (i.e. it has a phallic shape shaven out of his hair straight up from the middle of his forehead). It looks about as silly as his Britannia or (sun?) flower headpiece, but unfortunately I do not have the expertise to provide a shot of it here for purposes of general amusement.

Supplemental queries I would also quite like to see answered are: if A.C. didn't originate the phrase and concept himself, then who did? Does it go back to ancient Antiquity (or Egypt anyway)? How long is one meant to grow the lock (for)? And what is the best way to get the forelock to be phallic i.e., "stand to attention"? (I imagine that one would have to take a leaf out of Salvador Dali's book with regard to his singular 'tash, namely a liberal application of a particular sort of wax.)
There's no reason in theory why all the ladeez - or one or two of them maybe - shouldn't grow one as well (the forelock that is, not the merry old 'tash) unusual - mightily unusual - though that would be.

I remember there’s a passage in the Confessions where he wrote that he would keep his head shaved so as to free up every available second.
But I don't get it, as surely all that extra effort would have the opposite effect - how many freely available seconds is it going to take to need to shave your head every day instead of just simply trotting off down to the barbers (say) once a month?

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18/03/2019 11:42 pm  

surely all that extra effort would have the opposite effect – how many freely available seconds is it going to take to need to shave your head every day instead of just simply trotting off down to the barbers (say) once a month?

I think he was referring to saving on all the time spent on coiffing and styling: combing, brushing, or even pomading, waxing, etc. If I remember he wrote that he used a straight razor! Seems to fit with his persona as a big game hunter and adventurer.


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19/03/2019 1:52 am  

ed grimley

Beg pardon if my image link fails but I just had to weigh in...Ed Grimley is a Thelemite.


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19/03/2019 12:19 pm  

Don't youknow
Tin Tin is just the mundane form
whose false memory
doesn't recall
the other part of his being
at another level
that commands the elements
and whose balls are pointy

https://goo.gl/images/4XAJtN


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24/03/2019 4:27 am  

Hair is a conductor for electricity, power currents and energy that has no business being ... well that's how I think today...

Samson lost his power when his hair was cut.. I feel that when my hair grows... and I wore long hair for my first 51 years...

my kids decided to purple me up,....gross... it looked fake and reminded me of the old blue rinse set


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24/03/2019 4:38 am  

solar-phallic forelock.... ?????

widows peak


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24/03/2019 5:21 am  

The whole issue of hairstyle and Personal Power is goofy and yet significant (in my humble estimate).

Ala OZ, we are free to do whatever we want with our scalps. Also, ala OZ, if someone wishes to compel a "Solar-Phallic Forelock," we're free to kill them.

(That escalated quickly)

But it's obvious that "The Prophet" swiftly lost ability to grow a Unicorn Horn. Better to write of a "tonsure" than a "toilet bowl."

There is, however, a relationship between the seeming outer form and the inner idea. In this matter, dogma inspires impotence but imagination evokes a tranformative power.

Name it and claim it.


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01/09/2019 2:53 am  

8 minutes in;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkww4xmCQg


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01/09/2019 3:00 am  

What a sucker.


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01/09/2019 1:56 pm  

@serpent252

What a sucker.

Whose that then?


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01/09/2019 4:33 pm  

d: Whose that then?

Yeah. He could mean you or the guy at 8:00 in, or one of his friends.

Serpent252, we need to know who you're replying to, and who you're referring to, otherwise we can't follow the plot.


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01/09/2019 5:09 pm  

And the lucky winner is one Genesis P-Orridge.


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01/09/2019 6:10 pm  

And the lucky winner is one Genesis P-Orridge.

Why's that then?


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01/09/2019 6:39 pm  

S252, we remain confused. We're only mortal mentats, trying to figure out how the universe runs, with limited success.

Why is lucky-winner GPO elected to the center stage? Why is he/she/it a sucker?


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01/09/2019 7:26 pm  

OK, i will try my best, but don't blame me for your lack of the understanding.

GPO's favorite aunt Sophronia had found TOPY for the recruitment of the young boys for her vampiric needs.
Young Porridge had no idea at the time, so he just proceeded to be tortured by his lady, one Cosey FT.

Fast forward few years in the future, still young Porridge meets a new lady, and all hell broke loose. He becomes an ugly fat-ass woman, his lady dies, then he gets cancer, and goes to a gim.

And what happened with the aunt Sophronia?, you ask. I have no idea, so if anyone knows, please inform us.

If you haven't understood why I've called him (her/it/whatever, GPO) a sucker by now, I cannot help you.


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01/09/2019 7:37 pm  

@dom said:

8 minutes in;

LOL is that @ignant666 circa 1979 NYC?!

@shiva said:

Serpent252, we need to know who you’re replying to, and who you’re referring to, otherwise we can’t follow the plot.

S252, we remain confused. We’re only mortal mentats, trying to figure out how the universe runs, with limited success.

Why is lucky-winner GPO elected to the center stage? Why is he/she/it a sucker?

I gave up some time ago trying to make sense of a lot of the posts on Lashtal.


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01/09/2019 7:54 pm  

@elitemachinery

Good point. It really could be our dear Ignant666.

Other than that I've explained it all re GPO in my previous post. Please, don't give up on Lashtal, many seemingly nonsense posts have occult (hidden) meaning.


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01/09/2019 8:59 pm  

I resemble these remarks, but never had the full-on pointing-up Tin-Tin version displayed in the video.

A Pakistani mathematician colleague who cut his own hair, and was, um, eccentric (he was prone to mohawks) had a Tin-Tin forelock for a while, but he was an atheist apostle of Art.

Also my SPF was in high school circa sophomore year, '73-'74.


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01/09/2019 10:57 pm  

@serpent252

OK, i will try my best, but don’t blame me for your lack of the understanding.

No we won't blame you for our lack of understanding.

GPO’s favorite aunt Sophronia had found TOPY for the recruitment of the young boys for her vampiric needs.

You're a British tabloid journalist from circa 1980?

Dafuck are you possibly on about?

Young Porridge had no idea at the time, so he just proceeded to be tortured by his lady, one Cosey FT.

...wack post alert.

Fast forward few years in the future, still young Porridge meets a new lady, and all hell broke loose. He becomes an ugly fat-ass woman, his lady dies, then he gets cancer, and goes to a gim.
And what happened with the aunt Sophronia?, you ask. I have no idea, so if anyone knows, please inform us.

What's a 'gim?

If you haven’t understood why I’ve called him (her/it/whatever, GPO) a sucker by now, I cannot help you.
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GPO is a towering tower-smashing 'figure' in the history of neo-pagan magick and Thelema. He endured police-raids, a national tabloid smear campaign and death threats (including poison shoved through letterbox of a household that included baby daughter) due to his promotion of magick.

'How to do sigils' is now all over youtube. Who do you think pioneered that 30 years ago etc etc ?

Who are you?

I suggest you get some respect and improve your research skills.


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01/09/2019 11:51 pm  

GPO (also stands for "General Post Office") is all you say, david, and also a total twat, mountebank, and delusional idiot.

As this is the site of the ACS, he fits right in.


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02/09/2019 12:06 am  

S252: ... don’t blame me for your lack of the understanding.

There is nobody else in view to blame for my lack of the understanding. So you are "it," in this category.

If you haven’t understood why I’ve called him (her/it/whatever, GPO) a sucker by now, I cannot help you.

Oh, crap! I'm lost and losing my understooding. If you can't help me, I'll have to take medications.

em: I gave up some time ago trying to make sense of a lot of the posts on Lashtal.

Oh, crap! You are lost and losing your understooding. If you (Elite) can't help me, I'll have to solve the Serpent's riddles myself.

d: What’s a ‘gim?

That's short for gimnauseum.


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