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Posted by: @threefold31

Her lifetime spanned . . . three Aeons in the Crowleyan sense

What do you mean here by "three Aeons in the Crowleyan sense"?

 


   
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He means that her lifetime began 58 days before the end of the Aeon of Osiris, and included the entire 116 years of the Aeon of Horus, and ended 58 days after the reception by The New Seer of the new Word, or whatever, that began the New Aeon of Ma, the one that began in November of last year. So, she lived in three Aeons.


   
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Posted by: @ignant666

So, she lived in three Aeons

In threefold31's sense, yes, I'm aware of that. However, surely not in the "Crowleyan sense", since Crowley – certainly in his later years – expected the Aeon of Horus to endure for more than 2,000 years. Whether or not Crowley was right in this, that's how the "Crowleyan sense" has it.

 

 

 


   
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Posted by: @michael-staley

that's how the "Crowleyan sense" has it.

This is true.

Depending on the Crowley sense one subscribes to.

From Ankh to the Cairo Hotel was ~2400 years.

(Science says 1/12 of  26,000 (years) = 2167)

O.M. says 2,000 years. This is the kindergarten explanation that you refer to, and it is undoubtedly the most popular.

The undoubtable explanation is doubted by the doubters who cite AC writing that an Aeon can be short or long as "time is not here as there" (or "there as here," I get them confused).

So 3x31 obviously subscribes to this last definition, which not only moves the goal posts, but hides them out of sight, and so we have this thread.

I know enough Astro to build a chart from scratch. Well, i did back in the days before computers. The Aeon-Astro duplex doesn't work well from an overhead view (of history). But it works pretty good if you're in 1904.

I personally subscribe to the flexible time-frame, because it is unfortunate when the traveler gets stuck in someone else's rut, but I was always under the impression that an Aeon had to be fulfilled before the Seat in the East got cold for a moment as the Hierophants played musical Seats.

I respect The Legend of Horus and Set and the rest of the Royal Family. There are several versions. Did Horus really have such a short childhood? Only 118 years?  Setting the metaphors aside, our civilization is certainly a battleground between the Individual and the King (any Establishment gov).

All of the versions of the Legend end the same: Neither side wins. Eternal, ongoing conflict; every morn and every sundown.

Well, there is one version that does not promote ongoing conflict. Set backs off into a hole in the ground. Horus turns himself into a pole stuck in the ground next to the hole (for eternal vigilance). We haven't reached that point yet. The sun still rises and Sets (Set wins in the showdown at the Sunset Corral) (Horus wins every morning).

I'd say this thing can get to be very subjective.

 


   
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Posted by: @michael-staley

In threefold31's sense, yes, I'm aware of that. However, surely not in the "Crowleyan sense", since Crowley – certainly in his later years – expected the Aeon of Horus to endure for more than 2,000 years. Whether or not Crowley was right in this, that's how the "Crowleyan sense" has it.

Dwtw

What I meant was that this woman definitely lived before the Aeon of Horus, and died in the Aeon of MA. There is certainly ambiguity here, derived from AC's changing perspective on 'aeons' and their length. 

AC also said the Aeon of Horus might last 100 years or 10,000:

Old Comment on verse 3:34

"Following him (Horus) will arise the Equinox of Ma, the Goddess of Justice, it may be a hundred or ten thousand years from now; for the Computation of Time is not here as There. "

Where the mix-up occurs is concluding from his later writings that an Aeon is equivalent in time to an astrological Age. Now this is curious because there are only 4 officers in the GD Equinox ritual; if each of their rotations of position equated with an astrological Age, then they would have to go through the ritual cycle three times to complete the circuit of twelve signs.

My own view is more synthetic. I think the Aeons of Isis-Osiris-Horus were completed by an Aeon of Ma'at, who is the daughter of Ra, whose throne she assumes after it is vacated by RHK. She brings the Balance that harmonizes all three of those Aeons. This is evidenced by the fact that Liber MA is spoken in the words of the Theban Triad, which is a Family, unlike Liber AL.

Ma'at is the fourth personage as Initiator, so that the cycle is Mother-Father-Son-Daughter. But on another level, the Aeons of Mother and Father and Child give way to an Aeon of the whole Family combined. As Carl Jung would have it, any quaternity always has a fourth member that is related to all of the other three.

This sense of Balance is also achieved, in my view, by the fact that the beginning of the Aeon of MA coincides with the beginning of the astrological Age of Aquarius. There is much dispute as to when this Age begins, with claims ranging from the 20th to the 24th century:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

There are number of current astrologers who feel that the Aquarian Age began with the Great Conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in the 0 degree of Aquarius on December 21, 2012. And as I showed in another thread, calculating the beginning of the Aeon of Ma'at using the names of Isis-Osiris-Horus-Chronos, along with the Golden Ratio, results in a time that is a mere 28 minutes from the solstice point on that day. The Great Conjunction took place within hours of this point, which is awfully exact considering the Age of Pisces lasted ~2148 years.

So it may be that the Aeons as AC understood them have finally synced up with the astrological Age.

If we were to assume that they were always coincident, then what Age did the Aeon of Horus line up with? It was certainly too early to be considered the Age of Aquarius, but if one insists on stretching it to fit, then the previous Age was ~2148 years before, which would be ca. 245 BCE, and frankly, not a lot was happening in that era other than the usual wars and political intrigue.

If, instead, we see the Aeon of Horus as the precursor to the next Age, rather than its beginning, then the model makes more sense. If the Aquarian Age began in 2020, that puts the beginning of the previous Age at ca. 129 BCE, when Hipparchus published his star catalog:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/129_BC

This event is directly connected with astrological Ages, since Hipparchus is credited with 'discovering' the Precession of the Equinoxes, which is what causes the Ages in the first place.

And note the New Comment on the same verse 3:34 (emphasis mine)

"Note the close connexion between Leo and Libra in the Tarot, the numbers VIII and XI of their Trumps being interchanged with XI and VIII. There is no such violent antithesis as that between Osiris and Horus; Strength will prepare the Reign of Justice. We should begin already, as I deem, to regard this Justice as the Ideal whose Way we should make ready, by virtue of our Force and Fire. "

That Way has been made ready, and the Aeon of MA has begun.

 

Litllwtw

O.L.

 

 

 

 


   
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The Stele of Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu ... was discovered in 1858. It was originally made for the Montu-priest Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu i, and was discovered near his coffin ensemble of two sarcophagi and two anthropomorphic inner coffins. It dates to

circa 680–70 BC
675 BC

the period of the late 25th Dynasty / early 26th Dynasty. Originally located in the former Bulaq Museum under inventory number 666, the stele was moved around 1902 to the newly opened Egyptian Museum of Cairo (inventory number A 9422 ... where it remains today.

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675 + 1904 = 2579 years

Yes, AC had (in one version) the Aeon of Osiris commencing with the expansion of the Roman Empire, rounding  it off to end in 1904, which means it began in 96 BC, if an Aeon is 2000 years.

Anyway, I wanted to verify the Stele date, so as to clock the length of an Aeon as measured from Ankh's death, which was very close to the initiation of the Aeon of Osiris ... according to Across the Gulf, the Cairo Museum, Aleister Crowley, and the Incredible Circa- Averaging- Method of mine.

Although many thingd equal other things, ~2579 does not come very close to 2000.


   
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"A myth is not so much an expression of one particular time as it is an expression of time. What was ancient for us was in its own time a reworking for what was ancient for the ancients"  William Irwin Thompson, The Time Falling Bodies Take to Light,  pg 210

 


   
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Posted by: @shiva

The Stele of Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu ... was discovered in 1858. It was originally made for the Montu-priest Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu i, and was discovered near his coffin ensemble of two sarcophagi and two anthropomorphic inner coffins. It dates to

circa 680–70 BC
675 BC

the period of the late 25th Dynasty / early 26th Dynasty. Originally located in the former Bulaq Museum under inventory number 666, the stele was moved around 1902 to the newly opened Egyptian Museum of Cairo (inventory number A 9422 ... where it remains today.

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675 + 1904 = 2579 years

Dwtw

This number 2579 is actually very interesting from the standpoint of Precession. We know that the Egyptians used (if not invented) the Decans of the zodiac, which are 36 divisions of 10 degrees of the circle. But if we flip that and look for 10 divisions of 36 degrees, we come to the vicinity of Ankh-af-na-khonsu.

The currently established rate of precession is 5,028.796195 arc-seconds per Julian Century, (i.e. 36,525 days). 1 degree is equal to 3600 arc-seconds; therefore 36 degrees is equal to 129600 arc-seconds. How long would it take to precess this distance?

129600 / 5,028.796195 = 25.77157534 Julian centuries.

So 2577 years and a couple months would be the time span for the Equinox point to precess backwards 36 degrees of the zodiac. Starting from 1904 (and remember there is no Year 0), that would put us at 674 BCE.

Since precession is backwards against the zodiac, you have to reverse this and go forward to see where the Equinox point was in 674 BC. According to the Fagan-Bradley ayanamasa, the Equinoctial Point was at 6 Pisces 37 in 1904. Moving this forward puts it at 12 Aries 37.

This position is very close to the location of the star Hamal at 12 Aries 55. Indeed, this star is recognized as an “Equinox Star” from ca. 2500 years ago:

https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/hamal-ancient-equinox-star/

Hamal is “a yellow star situated in the forehead of the Ram and commonly known as the ram’s Following Horn”. The traditional name Hamal derives from the Arabic راس الحمل  (rās al-ħamal) which means head of the ram.

History of the star: A Babylonian title from cuneiform inscriptions has it as Dil-kar, the Proclaimer of the Dawn, As-kar, and others Dil-gan, the Messenger of Light. It also was Anuv, and had its constellation's titles I-ku and I-ku-u,- the Prince, or the Leading One, the Ram that led the heavenly flock. Of the Grecian temples at least eight, at various places and of dates ranging from 1580 to 360 BCE were oriented to this star; those of Zeus and his daughter Athene being especially thus favored, as Aries was this god's symbol in the sky.”

http://www.astroweb.cz/doc/clanky/fixed_stars.pdf

 

The difference between 12 Aries 37 and 12 Aries 55 is only 18 arc-seconds. This amount of space takes only about 130 days to precess, so it doesn’t really change the calculation of ~674 BCE.

The takeaway from this is that at the time of the death of Ankh-af-na-khonsu, Hamal was the Equinox Star, aligning with the Vernal Equinox point in March in the northern hemisphere. About 2577 years later, when one-tenth of the zodiac had been covered by Precession, his burial stele was seen by Rose Crowley and the Cairo Working was initiated.

The implications of this are actually rather important. Instead of concerning ourselves with the ‘zero point of Aries’ as the beginning of the zodiac sign, where there is no significant star from which to measure, it makes more sense, especially for a stellar cult, to use a fiduciary star. In this case, that star is Hamal And dividing the zodiac into ten parts goes back to ancient Mesopotamia:

 “Brown associates it (Hamal) with Aloros, the first of the ten mythical kings of Akkad anterior to the Deluge, the duration of whose reigns proportionately coincided with the distances apart of the ten chief ecliptic stars beginning with Hamal…”

Now Hamal is the Horn of Aries the Ram, and this same horn is used to symbolize Zeus-Ammōn, making yet another connection between Liber AL and the concealed god Amun.

 

Litllwtw

O.L.

 


   
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Posted by: @threefold31

there is no Year 0

Not in number-counting as we cross the Osirian Equator of the early 26th dynasty. In mundane numerology (1-9), when figuring dates, one is advised to "Add one" (+1). But when going back further, it would be "Add two" (=@). But in this case, with an artifact guessed at "somewhere around" a ten-year range, one has plenty of room to just add 'em up as-is.

Posted by: @threefold31

25.77157534 Julian centuries.

Yes, this is very close to 2579 years. With the stele's exact age being a guess (a ~circa), it seems we have stumbled upon a new cosmology in which everything fits. I will leave it to others to measure everything, to ensure the validity of the Ten-Aeon Paradigm.

 


   
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Dwtw

As noted in my podcast last week, Magus Time Episode 5 my first act as Magus in March 2020 was to listen to the instructions of my Angel, who told me to discover the name of The Stele of Revealing and ‘count well’ its name.

It then occurred to me that the word ‘Revealing’ in the name could just as well be 'Revelation', so why not use the Greek word Apokalypsis, which is the title of the Apocalypse, the Book of Revelation. And thus, I translated the entire name into Gree, with the following gematria total:

2574 = H Stélé tés Apokalypsis – The Stele of Revelation.

This fits right within the timeline of the death of Ankh-af-na-khonsu, and the creation of this Stele in ca. 680-670 BCE

Going backwards from AD 1904 to 671 BCE is 2574 years.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/bc-to-ad

So the name of the stele I was told to discover is also the ‘age’ of the stele in years when Rose Crowley recognized it. And this in turn is 1/10 of the length of time of the Axial Precession.

What takes this to the next level is the fact that in ternary, the decimal number 2574 = 10112100. We reverse the digits to make 00121101, which is the decimal number 442, the Hebrew gematria of מאאת Ma'at.

 

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Posted by: @threefold31

And this in turn is 1/10 of the length of time of the Axial Precession.

Firstly, I re-cognated that the Romans (?) had 10 months, but changed to 12. Bingo, it hit me. I'm born in Sept, yet Sept is our ninth month. Yeah, the Romans added January (for Janus, god of beginnings), and Feb for I don't know who.

This was a Christian or Osirian upgrade, twelve being sacred to that sect (12 apostles, etc).

The twin warriors about the pillars of the world are about to revise the Gregorian calendar (and possibly the Chinese lunar calendar) by revealing the hidden esoteric equation ...

12=10

 


   
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Dwtw

I have computed the gematria totals for Liber MA.

 

There are five numerals in the text: 7 + 4 + 20 + 414 + 717 = 1162 = Katalysis in Greek. So, the Word of the Aeon is equivalent to the numbers of the text.

 

There is a Hebrew word and a letter = 102 + 8 = 110, or ‘in full’ 329 + 418 = 747.

747 = Amun אמון.

 

Leaving these two non-English groups aside, the sums of the Trigrammaton English gematria of the three chapters is as follows.

Chapter 1 = 86718 = 2 * 3 * 97 * 149 = 194 * 447 = צדק * מאות = Tzedek * Maut

Chapter 2 = 86524 = 2 * 2 * 97 * 223 = 194 * 446 = צדק * מות = Tzedek * Mut

Chapter 3 = 91374 = 2 * 3 * 97 * 157 = 194 * 471 = צדק * היכלות = Tzedek * Hekhalot – (palaces, temples)

 

Each chapter is a multiple of 194, the value of Tzedek, which means Justice and Righteousness, and is also the name of the planet Jupiter.

Since מאות Maut is 447 and אמון Amun is 97 and Khonsu can be spelled as חענסו to equal 194, then each chapter is a multiple of the name of the god who is speaking.

 

The odds against all three chapters being a multiple of 97 and identified with the god-names must be astronomical, but I will leave it to TDM to calculate such a thing. Insofar as gematria can 'prove' anything, these results show that an extraordinary intelligence was at work in the creation of Liber MA.

 

The grand total of the English is thus 264616

264616 = 2 * 194 * 682 = צדק * מעשה מרכבה = Tzedek * Ma’aseh Merkavah – The Work of the Chariot.

The sole Hebrew letter of the text is Chet, attributed to the Chariot of the tarot, and the sign of Cancer. Tzedek = Jupiter, who is Exalted in Cancer.

 

Using only English gematria of the text, the grand total points to chapter 3 verse 51:

194 = crescent disguise

682 = On my Hawk’s head a crescent disguise is seen as I have taken up the crook.

 

 

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I quite enjoyed this work, thank you for putting this on my radar. I found it very beautiful, and what parts of the book I felt an intuitive understanding of it felt aligned with my own views in many ways.

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Are you open to questions about this work and your reception/inspiration of it? Do you have a community forum?

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I have computed the gematria totals for Liber MA.

 

What is "Liber MA" I can't locate it.  Does it go another name?  Thanks.


   
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What is "Liber MA" I can't locate it.  Does it go another name?  Thanks.

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It can be found on the files section of my blog here:

Liber MA vel Laudum

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@threefold31 

Are you open to questions about this work and your reception/inspiration of it? Do you have a community forum?

There's a FB group called the Aeon of Ammon, or you can ask questions on any post in my blog at Omegalogion.com

Litllwtw

O.L.

 


   
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Posted by: @threefold31

There's a FB group called the Aeon of Ammon, or you can ask questions on any post in my blog at Omegalogion.com

Well I am curious to ask you about its reception. How was it received and written? Do you have a story about how it came to be?

Also, can you make future cultural predictions and predict shifts happening using Liber MA?

From my view, it does appear to have plenty of alignment. I am not much of a gematria guy, I only dabble there if necessary I have other methods that I use.

I don't want to join the FB group because I would like to remain anonymous.

The Egg is in the nest, but an egg hatches, a baby birdling is alive but requires a mother to be nurtured––but of course a bird grows up, takes flight, and leaves the nest.

The narrative structure is also in the nest 😀 

Cheers

 

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The origin was mentioned on page 3 of this thread; I will give a recap here.

I hiked several miles into the Badlands of Nambé, where I did a lengthy meditation on the word AMN, which appears in Liber AL 1:51. At some point my HGA told me to write this word down. As soon as I did, the rest of the words began flowing, as they were told to me by the Angel. Each chapter took about an hour and a half to scribe, each one on a different day culminating on 22-11-22.

I memorized Liber AL before I did my self-initiation at Boleskine House on the December solstice of 1986, so I was well trained for the task of 'translating' it for the Next Aeon of MA. In the case of Liber MA this is not simply substituting some of the words of Liber AL; it is a syllable-by-syllable transformation of Liber CCXX into Liber CCXXI. All of the syllables align, with the accents in all of the same places, and some words even replaced by rhymes. Thus, the number of words are not identical in both books, but the number of syllables is the same.

There are 7667 syllables. This number is 11 * 17 * 41. Many interpretations can come from this. In Trigrammaton Qabalah, 11 is the Libra trigram, and 17 is the Venus trigram, ruler of Libra. Libra's tarot card is Adjustment, featuring an image of Ma'at; while the card of Venus is the Empress, the mother par excellence, whose symbol is the Dove. Thus, the Love of the Dove is one of the foci of this Liber, whereas the Love of the Serpent is a prime focus of Liber AL. The third factor is 41, and the Hebrew word אם AM = 41, meaning Mother. Whereas the Mother archetype is not mentioned in Liber AL, the entire first chapter of Liber MA is dedicated to her in the form of Maut.

A different interpretation might be that the factors of 11 and 17 indicate the tarot Atus of XI and XVII;  Lust and the Stars, (Babalon and Nuit) attributed to the axis of Leo and Aquarius, which is supposed to be activated at the onset of the 'Age of Aquarius', according to Crowley. That Age began in December of 2020, coinciding with the movement of the equinoctial point  ~1.618 degrees from the point of the Equinox of the Gods in 1904.

As far as predicting cultural shifts, there is a focus on health and healing in Liber MA, as opposed to war and conflict. Instead of a war-engine, there is a life-master, and so on. And one of the key tenets is that "all of the righteous shall repair the world". This is the agenda of Tikkun Olam. On the societal level, this seems to indicate that those who are able will develop the solutions necessary to repair the broken vessels that have characterized our flawed social constructs. I suppose that most of the characteristics of Aquarius in astrology will be developed over the next century, with a focus on humanity, but also the dramatic increases in innovation characteristic of Uranus. And as always there will be a struggle between the vestiges of the old power structures and the emergence of the new ones, because unfortunately governments and corporations still operate from a mentality of scarcity rather then plenitude.

In verse 3:54 it says" The Aeon! Adjustment! I deal out the wondrous cards".

This not only indicates the symbols of the Aeon of Ma'at directly, but overall the idea of Adjustment is going to come to the fore in this Aeon; a correction to the egregious excesses perpetrated by humans on this planet. In verse 2:18 it says "You are made for the orb of land: take care of the earth as your sister." If humans actually accomplish this, then the species will survive; if they ignore it, then they will go the way of many species before them. Nature will adjust the injuries we have inflicted, whether we help the process or not.

 

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Posted by: @threefold31

I memorized Liber AL before I did my self-initiation at Boleskine House on the December solstice of 1986, so I was well trained for the task of 'translating' it for the Next Aeon of MA. In the case of Liber MA this is not simply substituting some of the words of Liber AL; it is a syllable-by-syllable transformation of Liber CCXX into Liber CCXXI.

I accept your story of how you did come hither! Question; is Thelema, Thelemic magick, especially gematria along with Liber al vel Legis your...how should I ask this...your only "occult" language that you speak with your angel? for example, do you have any deep immersion in any other systems, for example any other religious systems, or even sciences, etc etc? Or is this pure 93 current? I hope my question makes sense, very curious to learn more!

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This is the agenda of Tikkun Olam.

Indeed!

From my view, it appears obvious that you and your angel have gematria as a shared language, and I can follow that you can lay out what appears to be a sequential pathway for each verse. However, unfortunately for me, gematria is not my natural internal language, other than a few recurring strings that I can follow intuitively. What I find remarkable is how much alignment there is with your revelations and my own in spite of this, both of us arriving at what appear to be aligned summaries relative to each our own view (as it should be) although my own methods are entirely different than yours, and of course I am not making a claim to actually rewrite the actual text itself, which is quite a literary feat that you did.

I will continue to study more of your work now that it is on my radar. I'm not sure how your work is absorbed by the community here but I hope they can appreciate it at any level.

Well done! Great Work! 

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Posted by: @sangewanchuck56

I accept your story of how you did come hither! Question; is Thelema, Thelemic magick, especially gematria along with Liber al vel Legis your...how should I ask this...your only "occult" language that you speak with your angel? for example, do you have any deep immersion in any other systems, for example any other religious systems, or even sciences, etc etc? Or is this pure 93 current? I hope my question makes sense, very curious to learn more!

Dwtw

I have three college degrees, one of which is in philosophy. I keep abreast of advances in particle physics and cosmology from an amateur perspective. I'm trained in the classical kabbalah and am a Baal Shem (thus the reference to Tikkun Olam). I'm familiar with numerous 'religious' expressions of different cultures, in particular Hinduism. I have extensively studied the I Ching and decoded the King Wen sequence. But primarily I have focused on Western Hermeticism and establishing Crowley's theoretical qabalah based on Liber Trigrammaton.

Posted by: @sangewanchuck56

From my view, it appears obvious that you and your angel have gematria as a shared language..

I use gematria as a means to an end. It is a way of checking the validity of transmissions, and finding linkages that are not obvious on the surface. But the methodology of TQ achieves much more than the garden variety of gematria practiced by beginners in the G.D vein of so-called 'qabalah'. The entities I'm dealing with are very precise, and certainly not interested in a long list of word equivalents. The fact that each chapter of Liber MA is a multiple of the name of the entity that is speaking is only a simple example of what they're capable of, and how they transmit information. They use gematria as a tool to point out words of power and mantras to be vibrated that have resonances that are useful on the Path.

But as I said, this is a means to an end. Gematria is supplemental to the meaning of the text, and is not the sole factor in comprehending it. In Liber AL, there are a set of four 'ordeals' that the Fool will go through to reach higher levels of understanding of the text. In Liber MA, there are not four ordeals, but alloys to be made with the alchemical metals of the planets. As one progresses through these alloys, it is certainly helpful if one has a roadmap for the recipes, and this might include gematria. But one could perform this type of alchemy with no knowledge of the trigrams and gematria involved, because some people are just natural alchemists and would progress on a more intuitive level.

I happen to be a musician, and I do understand a lot of music theory, but it isn't necessary to know that to make good music. Nor is it necessary to be able to read sheet music. But those who CAN read sheet music can adapt to a variety of situations for making music that are beyond the reach of those who can't read. Is one musician 'better' than the other? Of course not; but one is 'better equipped' to play something unfamiliar, because they have a script that they can follow.

 

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Posted by: @threefold31

I have extensively studied the I Ching and decoded the King Wen sequence.

Have you adopted the base three count by any chance? 0, 1, and 2?

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But one could perform this type of alchemy with no knowledge of the trigrams and gematria involved, because some people are just natural alchemists and would progress on a more intuitive level.

Indeed! For this i use the narrative method, special to my angel and i 🙂 I've studied multi-disciplinary as well, similar to you.

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I happen to be a musician, and I do understand a lot of music theory, but it isn't necessary to know that to make good music.

yeah I am a disgruntled former musician, long time ago, no sheet music here, I just hear in in my head and sing it.

Lovely chat! thank you! I look forward to more rich study of your work.

 

 

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@threefold31 sorry for double post, I forgot to mention this "All answers in the Lauds are to be decoded only by appeal to the trigrams, each for themselves."

Sheesh I love that. Why i ask if you related the trigram back to 0, 1, and 2. This has very very deep psychological and even computational properties.

Glad you are here brother!

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Thanks for the curriculum vitae, very nice...and I agree having levels of training helps a lot, and your work does demonstrate a proficiency...Congratulations.

Anyways a bit off topic, but relative to your study of "classical Kabbalah" I wonder if you are familiar with the work of Leonora Leet, such as the Universal Kabbalah or the Secret Doctrine of the Kabbalah?


   
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@threefold31 sorry for double post, I forgot to mention this "All answers in the Lauds are to be decoded only by appeal to the trigrams, each for themselves."

Sheesh I love that. Why i ask if you related the trigram back to 0, 1, and 2. This has very very deep psychological and even computational properties.

Dwtw

Yes, the trigrams are simply numbers in base 3. As AC said, this is the ultimate basis of theoretical qabalah, only one aspect of which is gematria. Base 3 is how the letter-values are determined for gematria, by using AC's letters for the trigrams, and translating those base 3 digits into decimal. Crowley himself says that ternary is the method of his work. I quote from On the Nature and Significance of the Magical Alphabet - Aleister Crowley:

“We can refer everything in the Universe to the system of pure number whose symbols will be intelligible to all rational minds in an identical sense...

This present attempt at a magical alphabet is, in fact, a projection, both intensive and extensive, of this system to infinity. On the one hand, all possible ideas are referred by progressive integrations to the pure numbers 0 to 10, and thence to 2, 1, and 0. On the other, the connotations of 0, 1, and 2 are extended, by progressive definitions, to include every conceivable idea on the plane of the Universe.”

 

I use this quote as a preface to The Book of Mutations, which covers the topic quite extensively.

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@threefold31 

... a bit off topic, but relative to your study of "classical Kabbalah" I wonder if you are familiar with the work of Leonora Leet, such as the Universal Kabbalah or the Secret Doctrine of the Kabbalah?

I have studied Leet's work extensively. It is not for the faint of heart. She has done excellent research, and I respect it quite a bit, though I don't use it directly in my own work, because my job is to deal with base 3, the Elohim and the septagram, and she is deep into base 10, the tetragrammaton and the hexagram matrix. To oversimplify, if one has 7 circles, one can neatly put the seventh circle inside the other six surrounding it, or one can make a ring of seven circles with a void in the center. Many like the symmetry of 6-around-1, and relate the Genesis creation to that. This creates a stasis. But the dynamic approach is 7-around-0.

 

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the trigrams are simply numbers in base 3

How so?

Aren't the trigrams composed of three lines, each of which consists of either a solid or broken line?

And isn't that only two "digits", whereas base 3 requires [gasp] three digits?

If the trigrams consisted of solid lines, broken lines, and no lines, your statement would make more sense.

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Aren't the trigrams composed of three lines, each of which consists of either a solid or broken line?

It's essentially binary. The Tai Hsuang Ching is based in threes, adding another line with two breaks.  


   
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It's essentially binary.

Yes, that is certainly my perception; awaiting clarification of @threefold31's base 3 claim here.

I have to confess i am curious how many math classes he took to get those three college degrees he mentioned.

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Tai Hsuang Ching is based in threes

Had never heard of this, but this does indeed seem to be a base 3 system, unlike the I Ching.


   
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Posted by: @threefold31

the trigrams are simply numbers in base 3

How so?

Aren't the trigrams composed of three lines, each of which consists of either a solid or broken line?

And isn't that only two "digits", whereas base 3 requires [gasp] three digits?

If the trigrams consisted of solid lines, broken lines, and no lines, your statement would make more sense.

Or am i missing something here?

Dwrw

I'm speaking of the trigrams in Liber Trigrammaton, subtitled "The Book of the Mutations of the Tao with the Yin and the Yang." Tao = 0, Yang = 1, Yin = 2. These are the digits of ternary. The 27 trigrams of this book are the decimal numbers from 0-26.

I assumed that by referring to Crowley attributing the letters to the trigrams, that it was understood I was speaking about Liber XXVII.

The trigrams of the I Ching are of course a binary system. As Katrice noted, the T'ai Hsuan Ching is also ternary, but uses tetragrams, for a total of 81 figures whose decimal values run from 0-80. This was the precursor to AC's work, though it is extremely unlikely he was aware of its existence.

It is well known that the King Wen sequence of hexagrams in the I Ching appear in pairs that are reversals of each other, except when they are palindromes; then they are paired with their opposite hexagram. So each hexagram can be seen as a number in two directions. It may be of interest to Thelemites that hexagrams #43 and #44, which are reversals of each other, have binary values that equal decimal 31 and 62, which add to 93, the only hexagram to do so.

 

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a gram would thus be composed of one or the other yes, and the tri refers to the bundling. Don'f forget the bundling...


   
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I assumed that by referring to Crowley attributing the letters to the trigrams, that it was understood I was speaking about Liber XXVII.

To me, "trigrams" means "I Ching trigrams". Never having paid any attention to Liber Trigrammaton, which does not (as originally published) assign any trigrams to any letters, no, it was not at all clear to me what you meant. I had in fact never until today seen the version with letter attributions added before googling it after reading your answer.

Of course, Liber XXVII, as originally published, with no letter attributions, is a "Class A" publication, and as such "may be changed not so much as the style of a letter; that is, they represent the utterance of an Adept entirely beyond the criticism of even the Visible Head of the Organization".

This would seem to ban adding the letter attributions, but i suppose when you make up the rules of the A.'. A.'. game, you get to make up exceptions to them. The letter attributions AC later offered in the New Comment seem rather tentative, like undeveloped research notes, make little sense to me, and, AFAIK, AC never made any use of them. 

The claim that any of this has to do with base 3 is perhaps defendable, but makes as little sense to me as the rest of your work.

Thank you for clarifying.


   
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The claim that any of this has to do with base 3 is perhaps defendable, but makes as little sense to me as the rest of your work.

Thank you for clarifying.

Dwtw

If you didn't know that AC had assigned English letters to the trigrams, it is no surprise that you didn't know what I was referring to.

AFAIK, no one has ever claimed that the English letters attributed to the trigrams are part of the received text of Liber XXVII. They were Crowley's attempt to fulfill the injunction of Liber AL verse 2:55. He said in the Old Comment that this was the solution; then he said in the New Comment that he wasn't sure. You can choose which of those to believe. This subject has been discussed quite a few times in these fora, and I need not go through it all again. But I will repeat myself with more clarification to remove any ambiguity:

The trigrams of Liber XXVII are simply numbers in base 3. They are, as Crowley said, "the ultimate foundation of the highest theoretical qabalah". And since I'm a Thelemite and a theoretical qabalist, that is what I use as the basis of my work.

The trigrams of the I Ching are numbers in base 2, as noted by Leibniz and many others. I do not use these as much in my work per se except in the sense that they are a subset of the 27 trigrams of Liber XXVII. Then their binary nature becomes ternary.

I find a useful analogy to be that the I Ching is Newtonian and Trigrammaton is Einsteinian.

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Posted by: @threefold31

I assumed that by referring to Crowley attributing the letters to the trigrams, that it was understood ...

Funny thing those assumptions ...

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i suppose when you make up the rules of the A.'. A.'. game, you get to make up exceptions to them.

The Rules made up are actually quite good overall as the support base for the curriculum, which actually can be applied by an individual to him/her self, or a Lineage or Tong can adopt them for group work, which is always fun.

In my opinion, fortified by my experience in the hot zone, Liber AL is worthy of the quoted Class A stamp/seal. The rest appear to be channeled with drug-assistance experiences, and they hardly match up to AL, which AC makes clear. When I was in the driver's seat of administering the curriculum, I ensured that everybody got their copy of any Class A doc they were supposed to memorize, with AL requiring the utterance of any one chapter (everybody chose Ch 1) before passing on to Yesod. After that, nobody had to recite anything.

I had a copy of Trigrammaton with penciled/penned letters 6 decades ago. It is my understanding that AC penciled or penned the letters. He was the visible head of the org. Yup, fiddling is not restricted to QBL, but can be inserted into rules, dogmas, and other forms of stability.

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The letter attributions AC later offered in the New Comment seem rather tentative, like undeveloped research notes, make little sense to me, and, AFAIK, AC never made any use of them. 

He tried. He shuffled, but nothin' come of it. He wrote that his results were "unsatisfactory." ... ? ... And yet this doc is required to be run off my mouth from memory before proceeding to the next grade.

I sorted these various comments out in the 60s, and I found this to be unreasonable, and that's when the "other" Class As were removed from the curriculum. AC wasn't the only one who knew how to fiddle.

 

 


   
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On the other, the connotations of 0, 1, and 2 are extended, by progressive definitions, to include every conceivable idea on the plane of the Universe.”

You are the only other adept I have known to mention this and make this connection! Great work! 

Are you familiar with Stan Tennen's work? He was able to unwrap the book of Genesis by counting the text in base three (0, 1, 2) to create a new string of meaning, which then became geometric objects.

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It's essentially binary. The Tai Hsuang Ching is based in threes, adding another line with two breaks.  

Tao is a hidden ternary system, it appears binary, but when you unlock the language, you have yang (1), yin (2), and both yin/yang (which is TAO or Wushi) as the 0 represents the whole TAO or whole system.

This is systems language!

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I'm speaking of the trigrams in Liber Trigrammaton, subtitled "The Book of the Mutations of the Tao with the Yin and the Yang." Tao = 0, Yang = 1, Yin = 2.

yeah, what our new magus said 🙂

Divide, add and multiply.

Dividing 6 into 50 we get 0.12

Its actually more than just base three, its ternary paraconsistent logic, which is when things start to get really weird, as paraconsistent logic collapses binary logic and is applicable in computational psychology.

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I find a useful analogy to be that the I Ching is Newtonian and Trigrammaton is Einsteinian.

another useful analogy is binary is duality, and ternary is non-duality

we get 0 for Mystery, 1 for True, 2 for False

also known as 'The two truths" which of course are actually three truths when this is absorbed.

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The claim that any of this has to do with base 3 is perhaps defendable, but makes as little sense to me as the rest of your work.

The jump from binary to ternary, the jump from duality to non-duality, is an entirely new perspective of the text as well as reality, it's like a systems reboot.

For me the 0, 1, and 2 was uncoded many many many years ago, but it then took many many many of those years to reintegrate the text and the symbolic meaning from within this view.

Reality is ternary, yet appears binary.

The Book of the Law, and the Book of Lauds, is written in ternary, not binary, and from there you can now begin to decode everything else (at your leisure and if, and only if, this is your kinda thing)

Hail to the Priest Prince of the Aeon of Maat!

Seems like a lovely fellow, and not nearly as obnoxious as the previous herald of the new aeon of horus 😆 

 

 

 

 

 

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we get 0 for Mystery, 1 for True, 2 for False

I appreciate this analogy. As a long time student of ternary and its application to Thelema, and using it to explore the Mysteries of the Aeon of MA, I can tell you that there is a precision to it that is beyond any form of QBLH out there. Yet it has taken a lot of hard work and dedication to get here. The QBLH that has evolved from Liber Trigrammaton is not even QBLH, it is something much more then that. 

I normally do not post very often in this forum, yet I have been following this thread, and figured I might as well put in my 3 cents. 

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He tried. He shuffled, but nothin' come of it. He wrote that his results were "unsatisfactory." ...

I think that if AC had access to the technology we do today, he may have felt different. The work of calculating every word of every text by hand is quite laborious, yet with a simple excel formula and macro, I can do all that in a click of a button. And yes, following the serial order of his ILC order of the alphabet is quite unsatisfactory. Yet once these are interpolated to their 3-base equivalent, according to the trigram he attributed them to, that's when the magic happens. 

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your kinda thing

It is indeed my kinda of thing, but noy many would agree. And that's okay

 


   
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Posted by: @sermo-nihil

I think that if AC had access to the technology we do today, he may have felt different.

The terms "if" and "may" make your statement speculative, which is fine and in line with the What would Crowley think? questions.

Regardless of timezones and technology, AC might just have been the introducer, not the producer. In fact, it seems this is exactly the case.

In terms of trigrams and letters, I'm still waiting for the practical application.

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... that's when the magic happens. 

What magic? Change occurs? There is a practical application to this sideshow of fifth-ray numbers-crunching with Borg  assistance and assimilation not far away? 

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It is indeed my kinda of thing, but noy [not] many would agree. And that's okay

It has to be okay, because that's the way it is. 5th ray scientists are in their own room (this thread and its likenesses), where they discuss Shinola to the tenth degree, which is complete exhaustion. They chat in company with Einstein ("one stone"), Maximus Planck,, and Jack Parsons. Someday, something big and practical is waiting to reveal itself.


   
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Posted by: @shiva

Regardless of timezones and technology, AC might just have been the introducer, not the producer. In fact, it seems this is exactly the case.

I would agree with you on this.

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Shinola

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Thanks for you reply relative to Lonora Leet's work...to which I will take comfort in knowing that you think highly of the work and that it is tough plowing. Your synopsis concerning the number/geometries she is working with is helpful and remarkable in brevity.

For those not familiar one of the interesting things that Leet explores are geometrical growth one might say of  the Star of David pattern to which I find something that speaks to the diagrams found in Achad's Anatomy of the Body of God...in a way....

 

 


   
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Are you familiar with Stan Tennen's work? He was able to unwrap the book of Genesis by counting the text in base three (0, 1, 2) to create a new string of meaning, which then became geometric objects.

Dwtw

Yes, I have studied Stan's work quite a bit; he takes a very innovative approach. And you're right, we're using systems language.

Posted by: @sangewanchuck56

Divide, add and multiply.

Dividing 6 into 50 we get 0.12

This alone is enough to show that Nuit was indicating a ternary system. And its logical counterpart is indeed where things get weird.

Once you've divided, 6 by 50 to get 0.12, you can then add 6 to get 6.12, and then multiply by 50 to get 306 = the Greek word Galaxias, meaning Galaxy. An apt description of Nuit, and my preferred name for the XVII Atu.

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The jump from binary to ternary, the jump from duality to non-duality, is an entirely new perspective of the text as well as reality, it's like a systems reboot.

Indeed, that's precisely what it is.

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Reality is ternary, yet appears binary.

The Book of the Law, and the Book of Lauds, is written in ternary, not binary, and from there you can now begin to decode everything else (at your leisure and if, and only if, this is your kinda thing)

It's no accident that these books are threefold.

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The Dzogchen folks told us that it is 3=0. Atma has 3 faces (Kether, Chokmah, Binah). An Atom has 3 components (Neutron, Proton, Electron), Note the 5 converging (or emerging) in the central emblem ...

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Once you've divided, 6 by 50 to get 0.12, you can then add 6 to get 6.12, and then multiply by 50 to get 306 = the Greek word Galaxias, meaning Galaxy. An apt description of Nuit, and my preferred name for the XVII Atu.

Interesting, I applied the Add and Multiply to get keys to a narrative structure,  I added the 1 and 2, which gives us three, and then multiplied by 3, giving us 9, the narrative structure of a whole system.

Very glad you are here (finally) brother! More later

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Dwtw

In Liber MA verse 1:60 it says:

My number will be 7, like all those counted here among us. The Six Pointed Star, with a Seventh in the Middle, & the seventh is Black.

Now we know that in Liber AL the star of Nuit is the Five Pointed Star, (which in Egyptian iconography is not a pentagram but 5 rays emanating from a center). In Liber MA the star of Maut is Six Pointed, but has a seventh point in the middle. This suggests the Unicursal Hexagram, as the Star of David does not have a central point.

When AC symbolized the ARARITA process with 6 letters around the Yod in the center, he is using the idea of the Unicursal Hexagram. This is mentioned in Liber LXV: "Also he taught me the holy unutterable word Ararita, so that I melted the sixfold gold into a single invisible point whereof naught may be spoken." Leonora Leet does not make use of the UH, but it would be an interesting exercise to incorporate some aspects of her work to include it.

Taking the typical 6 planets around the Sun at the center, we could use their Hebrew letter attributions to add some insight. Sol in the center is Resh = 200. The other six planetary letters are Bet-Gimel-Dalet-Kaf-Peh-Tav, which total 509. This is the 97th prime number, and 97 is the Hebrew word זמן  Zeman, meaning Time. In the TQ, if there are two given numbers we can always find the third, hidden number, by using the Triad method:

509 = 200212

200 = 021102

386 = 112022

The hidden number is thus 386, which is the value of the Greek word Epta, meaning Seven.

We can then utilize Trigrammaton Gematria to examine the first 7 words of Liber XXVII, which describe the Zero trigram, the pure Tao:

386 = Here is Nothing under its three forms. 

This is the 'invisible point whereof naught may be spoken", for Naught is Zero is Nothing. And the end of Liber XXVII points the way to this, for the verse about the final trigram says:

"Therefore was the end of it sorrow; yet in that sorrow a sixfold star of glory whereby they might see to return unto the stainless Abode; yea, unto the Stainless Abode." 

The Stainless Abode is none other than the Zero trigram that starts the Book, for at the end there is nowhere else to go but back to the beginning. So the sixfold star collapses back into the Zero, just as the Ararita process collapses into the Yod which is the naught. And thus the seventh point in the center becomes the Zero trigram, whose initial 7-word description has a gematria of 386, the same as the Greek word for 7.

 

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Well well well...and with what appropriately corresponds to your 638th post, I am quite astounded by this tour you have given: Thanks!

 


   
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Dwtw

You're welcome.

To go slightly off topic, but complete the exegesis above, it should be noted that the final verse of Liber XXVII has a very interesting gematria:

"Therefore was the end of it sorrow; yet in that sorrow a sixfold star of glory whereby they might see to return unto the stainless Abode; yea, unto the Stainless Abode."  = 1561

1561 x Pi = 4904.026

Let us round this to 4904, which is the gematria of the word Katalysis spelled 'in full', i.e., by using the nine Greek letter-names instead of the single letters. Thus, the Word of the Aeon can be derived from the final line of Trigrammaton; it is the circumference of a circle whose diameter is the last sentence of the Book. And this word Katalysis means Dissolution, and this is precisely the process that occurs when the final trigram resolves itself back into the Zero trigram, just as the "sixfold gold" of Ararita is "melted" i.e., dissolved, i.e. undergoes Dissolution, into the single invisible point in the center.

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Posted by: @sangewanchuck56

Tao is a hidden ternary system, it appears binary, but when you unlock the language, you have yang (1), yin (2), and both yin/yang (which is TAO or Wushi) as the 0 represents the whole TAO or whole system.

True, it is,  I just meant that the I Ching more overtly deals with just yin, yang, and the transition from one to the other rather than a full synthesis of the two, while the Tai Hsuan Ching is more clearly a ternary system.


   
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That is very interesting, it certainly comes full circle so to speak and with an enlivening confirmation which must certainly astonish you, in what I have described with the adage "the gift that keeps giving" !

There is a creativity you display in say multiplying a numeral by Pi thus speaking to spiraling forces and trajectories

It also plays an interface relative to your distillation of Lenora Leet's work, about the void...system and system so to speak

Or is there some evolution, as is the course that you have had the wide range of tools and experience to so take the wave forward into deciphering that which Aleister Crowley did by ~ ! gift and work,  that which appeared on the record!

And from the record and with dissolution I suppose new patterns emerge to old tricks! But may astonishment be the continued gift on the way ~!

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(Quote from post by threefold31, posted 23/12/2022 11:55 am, at the beginning of this thread:)

threefold31: "The Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA vel Laudum) is hereby released, on the 7th anniversary of the burning of Boleskine House, which marked the beginning of the end of the Aeon of Horus. [...]

Liber MA (= Liber MA vel Laudum) is the continuation of the work of To Mega Therion 9°=2, and the evolution of The Book of the Law."'

 

Quote from posting posted by threefold31, 22/07/2021 1:28 am, in a thread started by the same, titled The Next Aeon:

"I respect Fr. Achad in this work, and of course I am not simply repeating what he said, but elaborating on his insight. [...]

Also, Achad was not a Magus and could not utter the Word of the Aeon that he thought began on his birthday. That word is Katalysis. [...]

When I was urged by my HGA to accept the Grade of Magus, I knew I'd have to utter a Word. But I was not aware at that time that another Aeon was about to begin. Indeed, the record shows that I announced that grade on this forum and made no mention of a coming Aeon. I initially thought the Word was simply my own as a Magus and that the Word of the Prophet was still in force. But the subsequent revelations after that utterance made it quite clear that the Aeon of Horus was being superseded."

 

threefold31, does your statement "I initially thought the Word was simply my own as a Magus and that the Word of the Prophet was still in force. But the subsequent revelations after that utterance made it quite clear that the Aeon of Horus was being superseded.", lead to any new practical application(-s), for how to work with Crowley's The Book of the Law, and the Thelema based on it?

That is, have you threefold31, as a consequence of Crowley's "Word of the Prophet" not being "still in force", and his "Aeon of Horus [...] being superseded", developed any new practical application(-s), for how to work with Crowley's The Book of the Law, and the Thelema based on it?


   
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have you threefold31... developed any new practical application(-s) ...

I have asked this question two or three times, already. No practical application(s) has/have been set forth that I can determine. However, the abstract revelations may, in time, prove to be the basis of time travel or infinite riches.


   
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Verse 39, in the last chaper of  The Book of the Lauds, provides threefold31 with this instruction:

"Write this in a book that spells how you have come to me and an introduction of these words and numbers for ever – for in this are the runes hidden & beyond the runes of English – and your comment upon this the Book of the Lauds will be printed letterpress with black ink and red upon Japanese vellum made by hand; and for each man and woman that thou greetest, were it but to wine and to dine with
them, these are the Lauds to give. Then they can choose to reside in this house or no; it matters not. Draw this freehand!" 

threefold31, have you published the "book that spells how you have come to me and an introduction of
these words and numbers for ever – for in this are the runes hidden & beyond the runes of English", that you in The Book of the Lauds, are instructed to write? 

 

threefold31 earlier in this thread:
"... the nature of Liber MA [= The Book of the Lauds], as being a conversation with Liber AL [= Crowley's The Book of the Law]. What appears at first glance as merely imitative is in fact an 'evolution' of the original text, as I stated in the original announcement. It is entirely possible that the two texts derive from the same source, and are mirror expressions of each other."
( Source: 31/12/2022 2:46 pm [:] https://www.lashtal.com/forums/thelema/the-book-of-the-lauds/paged/2/ )

That Crowley's The Book of the Law, Chapter 2 verse 55.: "Thou shalt obtain the order & value of the English Alphabet; thou shalt find new symbols to attribute them unto.", has been fulfilled, is an 'evolution' implied by the text in threefold31's The Book of the Lauds:

[Chaper 2, verse 55.:] Now rearrange the value & order of the English Alphabet; there will be new trigrams for explaining them to you. [...] [The last verse in the third and final chapter of The Book of the Lauds:]

"... All answers in the Lauds are to be decoded only by appeal to the trigrams, each for themselves. [...] High Priest of the Princes, [...]."

 

"This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it." 

The preceding quote , being, Crowley's The Book of the Law, Chapter 3, verse 47., has this "mirror expression" in threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, Chapter 3, verse 47.:

"47. These words shall be transmuted into new tongues: in no wise is the original in the writing of the Priest; but for the change type out the letters to make transitions with one another: in such are alchemies the sage Priest can divine. Let them try not to seek: for these numbers after it, compared with naught, can then uncover the Key in the lock. Then the line cut is a key; then this doubled cube in its failure holds a key in it. And Ankaqoqakna. I shall be this child & no stranger. Let them not tweak any bits: for thereby alone can they fail of it."

An 'evolution' implied by the the two verses number 47 just quoted above, is The Book of the Lauds not emphasizing the importance of its original manuscript to its readers, in contrast to Crowley's The Book of the Law emphasizing the importance of its original manuscript to its readers.  

Another 'evolution' implied by the the two verses number 47 just quoted above, is that the ancient Egyptian god of the Moon, (= the speaker of the third and final chapter of threefold31's The Book of the Lauds), is the child mentioned in that verse, in contrast to "Abrahadabra" being "his [= Crowley's] child & that strangely", as mentioned in Crowley's The Book of the Law. 

 

Verse 55., in the first chapter threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, contains nothing about "The child of thy bowels, he shall behold them [= [Crowley's The Book of the Law, chaper 1, verse 54:] "... all these mysteries hidden therein", in the text of Crowley's The Book of the Law].", mentioned in verse 55. in the first chapter of Crowley's The Book of the Law.

And verse 56., in the first chapter of threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, contains nothing about the child mentioned in the first chapter verse 56. of Crowley's The Book of the Law:

"Expect him not from the East, nor from the West; for from no expected house cometh that child."

I am not sure if this indicates an 'evolution' where threefold31 is "The child of thy bowels, he shall behold "all these mysteries hidden therein", within the text of Crowley's The Book of the Law, as the following is stated within threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, chapter 1 verse 54.:

"Strange are the touch and the style of the letters; but behold! you, o seer, cannot be told all the mysteries hidden within." 

And threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, chapter 1 verse 54., is comparable with Crowley's The Book of the Law chapter 1 verse 54.:

"Change not as much as the style of a letter; for behold! thou, o prophet, shalt not behold all these mysteries hidden therein."

 

"He that is righteous shall be righteous still; he that is filthy shall be filthy still.", Crowley's The Book of the Law, chapter 2, verse 57, has this "mirror expression" in threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, chapter 2 verse 57.:

"All of the righteous shall repair the World; none that is filthy shall behold the Pearl."

And "Let the Scarlet Woman beware! If pity and compassion and tenderness visit her heart; if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known. I will slay me her child: I will alienate her heart: I will cast her out from men: as a shrinking and despised harlot shall she crawl through dusk wet streets, and die cold and an-hungered.", Crowley's The Book of the Law, chapter 3, verse 43., has this "mirror expression" in threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, chapter 3, verse 43.:

" Let the Babalamun take care! If mercy and dispassion and kindliness vanquish their heart; if they love this Work with joy and pure graciousness; then their true nature is shown. I repay them with smiles: I will then penetrate their heart: I will cast my lot with them: a free-thinking and a wise adept shall they be who do the Work, and live life to the fullest."

The emphasis on ""All of the righteous shall repair the World", in chapter 2 verse 57. of threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, and the emphasis on "love this Work", and "a free-thinking and a wise adept shall they be who do the Work, and live life to the fullest.", in chapter 3, verse 43. in the same book, indicates the practical importance of repairing "the World", and of doing "the Work", according to this book.

 

It is in light of the just mentioned importance of repairing "the world", of loving "this Work", and of doing "the Work", I ask if you threefold31 ( – within The Book of the Lauds described as "The scribe Show-the-Light-to-You", "The seer Show-the-Light-to-You", and "High Priest of the Princes, Show-the-Light-to-You ..." – ) have worked out any new practical application(-s), for how to work with Crowley's The Book of the Law, and the Thelema based on it?


   
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Posted by: @wellreadwellbred
 … have you threefold31, as a consequence of Crowley's "Word of the Prophet" not being "still in force", and his "Aeon of Horus [...] being superseded", developed any new practical application(-s), for how to work with Crowley's The Book of the Law, and the Thelema based on it?

 

Dwtw

You ask a myriad of questions, any of which could go off on tangents. There have been inquiries into “practical applications”, but it is not specified as to what might fulfill the definition of ‘practicality’. Are you looking for new rites and rituals, new magic spells, new recipes for the cakes of light, or something else?

I am not sure that one should expect that an evolution of Liber AL in the form of Liber MA would provide new 'applications' for the Book of the Law which is its antecedent. There is a continuity but also an evolution, and the 'applications' would perforce be related to Liber MA more than Liber AL. It is its own Book, and you would have to provide examples of the ‘practical applications’ you find in Liber AL to examine what their counterpart might be in Liber MA. In Liber AL, the focus is on "do what thou wilt"; in Liber MA the focus is on "speaking the truth". 

That being said, the word of the Law is Theléma. That has not changed, and it does not seem to be the purview of Liber MA to comment on Theléma per se. Its word is Emunah, a very important term in Judaism which has no single-word English translation, whereas Theléma is Will (referring mostly to the will of God in the NT), and that’s pretty straightforward. It can be translated with a single word in English. One might say that a deep study of Emunah could help the Adept accomplish their Theléma. But that is a subject for another post.

There is one obvious example of a ‘practical application’, which is the anointing oil and the cakes of light. The recipe is well known from Liber AL. In Liber MA there is a different recipe:

For incense mix tears & resin & rich beeswing of red wine plus oil of pure anointing with olive oil and after this blend it & finish with drops of blood."

The “oil of pure anointing” is specifically mentioned in an earlier Class A text of the M.I.X. called The Book of the Seven Minstrels:

Take oil that has been consecrated and make seven marks for the chakras and limbs.
Forehead, throat, heart, & elbows & knees. These mark the points of a sigil and bless the Adept with its potency. Use cinnamon or myrrh or olive or olibanum sandalwood, acacia, or mint. A combination or a single oil. Bless thyself with the words …”

So, this particular anointing oil has seven possible ingredients. These are then mixed with the tears, resin, beeswing and blood to make the incense mentioned in Liber MA, from which the so-called ‘cakes of light’ can be made. This is entirely different from Crowley’s recipe, which is an alteration of the Abramelin oil recipe from Mathers, and ultimately from the Book of Exodus.

This is an example of something ‘practical’ that is not going to provide insight into Liber AL necessarily, because its purpose is to provide a recipe for the Next Aeon.

Posted by: @wellreadwellbred

threefold31, have you published the "book that spells how you have come to me and an introduction of these words and numbers for ever – for in this are the runes hidden & beyond the runes of English", that you in The Book of the Lauds, are instructed to write? 

Yes, it is called The Aeon of Amon, a 500-page tome detailing all the revelations and Holy Books given so far, and is available on lulu.com

The Aeon of Amon

All of the Holy Books of M.I.X. are also available separately there, with Commentary on a couple of them.

The Holy Books of M.I.X.

The full Commentary on Liber MA is still in development; it is much too soon to make an in-depth analysis of a very enigmatic Book that is only 8 months old. But the gematria calculations that were given earlier are evidence that there is a higher intelligence at work.

Posted by: @wellreadwellbred
That Crowley's The Book of the Law, Chapter 2 verse 55.: "Thou shalt obtain the order & value of the English Alphabet; thou shalt find new symbols to attribute them unto.", has been fulfilled, is an 'evolution' implied by the text in threefold31's The Book of the Lauds:

[Chaper 2, verse 55.:] Now rearrange the value & order of the English Alphabet; there will be new trigrams for explaining them to you. [...] [The last verse in the third and final chapter of The Book of the Lauds:]

"... All answers in the Lauds are to be decoded only by appeal to the trigrams, each for themselves. [...] High Priest of the Princes, [...]."

Well, Liber AL verse 2:55 was fulfilled decades ago, starting with Crowley’s own letter-attributions to the trigrams. Liber MA is not a ‘fulfillment’ of that injunction to AC; it simply uses the same trigram-attributions that he worked out for the English letters, and it specifies that these will be used to encode the text.

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An 'evolution' implied by the two verses number 47 just quoted above, is The Book of the Lauds not emphasizing the importance of its original manuscript to its readers, in contrast to Crowley's The Book of the Law emphasizing the importance of its original manuscript to its readers.  

Correct, the Book of the Lauds is not concerned with the original handwritten version of the text, possibly because there is little deviation from the written and typed versions, whereas there are lots of differences in AC’s Liber XXXI (holograph) and Liber CCXX.

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Another 'evolution' implied by the two verses number 47 just quoted above, is that the ancient Egyptian god of the Moon, (= the speaker of the third and final chapter of threefold31's The Book of the Lauds), is the child mentioned in that verse, in contrast to "Abrahadabra" being "his [= Crowley's] child & that strangely", as mentioned in Crowley's The Book of the Law. 

I suppose it could be interpreted in that way.

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 The emphasis on "All of the righteous shall repair the World", in chapter 2 verse 57 of threefold31's The Book of the Lauds, and the emphasis on "love this Work", and "a free-thinking and a wise adept shall they be who do the Work, and live life to the fullest.", in chapter 3, verse 43, in the same book, indicates the practical importance of repairing "the World", and of doing "the Work", according to this book.

I don’t think that the idea of ‘repairing the World’ can be emphasized enough. In kabbalistic terms, this is Tikkun Olam. In the Lurianic kabbalah, the adept is urged to repair the vessels of the Tree that shattered because they could not contain the Light. These are the 7 lower sefirot, which are the only concern of Tikkun Olam, as the three supernals are not shattered and are also in a certain sense beyond the reach of human beings, at least those who have not ‘gotten out’ yet. Repairing the world is also a metaphor for the integration of one’s Nefesh, Ruach and Neshamah. This is really one of the most important verses in the Book, and a proper exegesis is too long for this post.

 

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It is in light of the just mentioned importance of repairing "the world", of loving "this Work", and of doing "the Work", I ask if you threefold31 ( – within The Book of the Lauds described as "The scribe Show-the-Light-to-You", "The seer Show-the-Light-to-You", and "High Priest of the Princes, Show-the-Light-to-You ..." – ) have worked out any new practical application(-s), for how to work with Crowley's The Book of the Law, and the Thelema based on it?

Liber MA must be understood as an evolution of Liber AL, but it must also be taken on its own terms. It is the dispensation of the Aeon of MA, and therefore concerns itself primarily with that. But there are some 'enhancements' of Liber AL, such as the major emphasis on asana and pranayama, as well as chanting.

One could approach it this way: what is in Liber AL is ‘settled law’ as they say. The purpose of Liber MA is not to overthrow it, but to further the work in terms most appropriate to the MA-ION. So, for example, in Liber AL verse 3:63-67, the emphasis is on the Fool gaining four levels of comprehension of the Book of the Law. In Liber MA there is no such concern; rather it gives a very specific formula of alchemy, based on the planetary metals, which are in turn connected to the seven oils of anointing mentioned earlier, which then create the pattern of the new septagram known as the Lovely Star, or “the Amalgamation of Distillation” mentioned in verse 3:19.

As far as ‘practical applications’ are concerned, the unicursal hexagram specified in verse 1:60 has evolved into the Lovely Star septagram. Within that design are a multitude of ‘practical’ effects, if one chooses to study the design and apply it in their work. It’s design is first encoded in The Book of the Seven Spirits, based on the atomic numbers of the alchemical metals.

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This septagram can be used to rearrange the Hebrew letter sequence as foud in Liber Carrus, and is the basis for the ritual of the septagram known as The Star Garnet, which can be found in Thee Book of Deceptions, whose 97 chapters are written along the lines of Crowley's The Book of Lies:

Thee Book of Deceptions

Three other ‘practical’ applications (not specified in Liber MA, but elsewhere) are the use of the number 97 (the value of the name AMUN) to reassign the 97 cards of the Minchiate tarot. 97 is also used to encode 8 full octaves of musical notes, thus aligning these chromatic intervals with 97 hexagram numbers that can be arranged into mantras and tones specific to the Adept or to particular ‘words of power’. In connection with this, an entire color scale is aligned with the 27 trigrams and their interaction as 729 hexagrams so that e.g., sigils on magic squares may be given specific color values for meditation and skrying, etc. (This is one way I can ‘Show-the-Light-to-You’). The hexagrams of color also form the seven walls of the Vault of the Adepts, within which a great deal of this Work can be applied. The Vault is the prism that refracts the Light.

Liber MA certainly refers back to Liber AL, but it is also the last of the 14 Holy Books of M.I.X. that was received, and must also be considered in light of all of them. The letters MIX are the notarikon of the Greek title Mysterion Ieros Chymeia – the Mystery of the Holy Alchemy – and it is in the alchemical nature of these Books that the reader will find many of the ‘practical’ applications.

 

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Posted by: @threefold31

it is not specified as to what might fulfill the definition of ‘practicality’.

"Assists or performs measurable work on the physical plane."

"Prevents or reduces astral-emotional obsessions and associated neurotic behavior."

"Provides or describes a method for stopping the mind."

"Allows praeterhuman entities to be heard, seen, and/or photographed."

That sort of thing.


   
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Question from me: "threefold31, have you published the "book that spells how you have come to me and an introduction of these words and numbers for ever – for in this are the runes hidden & beyond the runes of English", that you in The Book of the Lauds, are instructed to write?"

threefold31's answer: "Yes, it is called The Aeon of Amon, a 500-page tome detailing all the revelations and Holy Books given so far, and is available on lulu.com"

 

threefold31: "... It is entirely possible that the two texts [threefold31's Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA) & AC's Book of the Law] derive from the same source, and are mirror expressions of each other."

threefold31: "... Book of the Lauds is not concerned with the original handwritten version of the text, possibly because there is little deviation from the written and typed versions, whereas there are lots of differences in AC’s Liber XXXI (holograph) and Liber CCXX."

threefold31: "Liber MA must be understood as an evolution of Liber AL, but it must also be taken on its own terms. It is the dispensation of the Aeon of MA, and therefore concerns itself primarily with that. But there are some 'enhancements' of Liber AL, such as the major emphasis on asana and pranayama, as well as chanting."

 

threefold31, will "... some 'enhancements' of Liber AL"?, intended by, and derived from, its "entirely possible [...] same source", as your Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA), be that "... there is little deviation from the written and typed versions [of Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA)], whereas there are lots of differences in AC’s Liber XXXI (holograph) and Liber CCXX."?

 

Also, threefold31, that THE [short] COMMENT at the end of your Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA), apparently is and integral part of the of its orginal text, which THE [short] COMMENT is not with respect to AC's Book of the Law in its original form, is this among "... some 'enhancements' of Liber AL"?, intended by, and derived from, its "entirely possible [...] same source", as your Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA)?

 

And, threefold31, is it within The Aeon of Amon, that is the book which Book of the Lauds (= Liber MA) instructed you to write about its creation, or within the latter book (= Liber MA), clearly stated which numbers that are NOT to be included, (for example verse numbers and/or chapter numbers), when calculating its gematria totals?

I ask the last question, as such clarity corresponds to "... some 'enhancements' of Liber AL", with respect to calculating gematria totals.

 


   
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