I had wanted to do a proper review of this book but I will not be doing a proper review. The best and most fair thing that I can do is give my impressions and, hopefully, other people who have read it can help unpack and clarify it.
I was worried that the book might be a very short treatise on the subject while only hinting at revelation. Instead it is a glut of information (which is usually a great and welcomed surprise) without a table of contents or appendix. It is also in need of an editor if only to lend it better structure.
The book begins with a concise enough thesis: "...if you are a man and you have a penis, it's high time that you learn how to wield it correctly as if it were the Sacred Lance held in the hands of Parzival." And, despite this, I did keep reading. And, as the first few chapters progressed into more and more of "Now that I have said this, let me say this other thing before we get to the subject of the book," I also kept reading.
To truly review this book would be to rewrite the book and discuss the entire thing in at least as many pages as it is written in. It covers a lot, from Masonry to Enochian to the Bible to copyright issues to OTO history and beyond.
Here's the gist and, again, if you have read the book correct me if I am incorrect. The real secret is that the penis is "a vehicle for transmitting the True Will of the One True God and only His, and to think anything less is bathed in illusion, phantoms, lies and the wants of a magician." This is reiterated throughout the book in different expressions. The start of Chapter Eleven says the prerequisite for performing sex magick correctly is "defining your own set of morality and believing in the One True God."
The One True God (OTG) idea is central. So, what is the OTG? Cornelius says: The bottom line, your definition of OTG, whether it be male or female, is your definition, not mine, and let's leave it at that." Except it can't be left at that as that is contradicted several times. He liken the creation of gods to the Golden Calf, and uses the analogy more than a few times (all of which I'd quote if there were an appendix). He also writes: "If you're an atheist or someone who doesn't believe in the OTG, or you have created illusions and phantoms in your mind, then you've doomed yourself right from the start."
Is OTG the HGA? Unclear. Unfortunately.
There is some solid effort spent comparing the idea of the True Will to biblical conceptions. A good example of this is when he writes: "Still, so many Thelemites claim that they know their True Will, throwing it around as if it were a fact. But how many can claim in all honesty that 'I seek not my own will but the will of my Father who send me?' Your conscious will must become synonymous with your Father's True Will."
If there's a secret in this book it remains buried. Simultaneously there is a wealth of interesting knowledge that may or may not be useful. I'll leave you with this from near the end of the book. "The bottom line, for a man to waste his semen through masturbation or with a simple "Wham! Bam! Thank-you ma'am" for mere pleasure, whether one is married or not, is an utter sin for a sex magician. It's not only the waste of of the gift given to us by God, but it's restricting God's True Will from properly manifesting, and we all know that restriction is a sin, whether it is something imposed upon us - or forced upon God."
And it is with such...proselytizing, that I always get off the bus at the very next stop - as fast as fucking possible.
By their deeds shall you know them...
"...if you are a man and you have a penis, it's high time that you learn how to wield it correctly as if it were the Sacred Lance held in the hands of Parzival." – Ha ha ha ha. Oh, the irony would be sublime were it not so farcical.
The onset of Horus abrogated all that testosterone-fuelled vending machine man-Magick into the bin, where it belongs. Yet, the failed Neophyte of Death Valley still babbles-on over its dead and fossilised embers and still takes forever to say absolutely nothing. The 80 books he’s squirted out in the last year or so have less literary, educational and spiritual worth than the list of ‘E’ numbers printed on a sachet of M.S.G. and released solely as a nest-feathering exercise for his “muse” – Who returned the favours by leading him by the Sacred Lance into a cut ‘n’ shut honey trap. Hooked, reeled-in, gutted and hung out to dry.
It took decades for the wanton mismanagement of Tipsy McStagger and Bilious Wheeze et al to entomb Crowley’s legacy in a stagnant mire. In just a few years, and almost singlehandedly, the cringingly embarrassing antics of the failed Neophyte of Death Valley has sunk this tradition lower than whale-shit and towards a tainted oblivion from which any hope of recovery is negligible. But, hey, the new bathroom suite looks great.
without a table of contents or appendix
Every initiate must cut their own way through the jungle.
If there's a secret in this book it remains buried.
Of course.
And it is with such...proselytizing, that I always get off the bus at the very next stop - as fast as fucking possible.
I was about to comment on the proseletting, but hardly knew where to start. Then your ultimate sentence popped up. The "bottom line" sums up Crowley's repeated claims and injunctions, so the author remains true to his book's Title. It is unclear whether these are also the thoughts or bottom lines of the author, Mr Cornelius (?)
Of great personal drive, Jerry has announced and verified (to me) that he is a 9=2 operative. However, his highest grade in the OTO was VIII* (another Illuninatist). It is said that nobody can understand or operate the intricacies of the IX* without standing for the initiation. Handing out, or reading, Emblems does not constitute "standing."
So Secret sexual teachings is a library research project ... undoubtedly enhanced by VIII* encounters (the VIII* is sexual, but does not include the final ultimate supreme secret of the IX*, which Baphomet said could be disclosed in a sentence or two ... which he did, in Emblems).
The entire Secret may be studied further by examining what has been said, elsewhere, about dharana and dhyana.
Thank you for your perusal and partial revelation.
@therealrtc - Welcome back.
Will you now be responding to the reviews of your pathetically bad 666, Sex,and the New Aeon of Horus?
When will you be publishing the long-promised (for many years) appendices containing:
- the Pirie watermarks evidence that you claim to have had for many years; AND
- the Rose Crowley honeymooon diaries that you also claim to have had for many years?
You know, the long-promised evidnce that might give anyone any reason to believe your extravagant claims, which are so far (for oh so many years) mere evidence-free fantasy material.
@therealrtc - Welcome back.
Will you now be responding
Don't hold your breath. I am confident that after his falling out with Jerry Cornelius RTC uses Lashtal just like his Facebook solely for ridiculing Jerry after the latter's long-time partner and collaborator Erica left him, or to promote his "literary, educational and spiritually worthy" oeuvre (like the "long-awaited" amalgam of Bogus AND eLGMOR). Or for his fantasies about the love affair between me and Bill Breeze. Now I just wonder: is it a Horus Toy side effect or does enlightenment generally turns you into a pathetic disgusting prick?
The Sex Magic Authors now head for The Gunfight at the Sexual Corral.
Don't hold your breath.
Was not planning on doing so. i am sure he is still aching from the severe spanking he took hereabouts over eLGMOR.
RTC shows no signs whatever of being more enlightened than, or even as enlightened as, the average doorstop or curbstone, so i think you may have posed a false dichotomy?
RTC shows no signs whatever of being more enlightened than, or even as enlightened as, the average doorstop or curbstone, so i think you may have posed a false dichotomy?
Let's not let RTC's brief appearance derail the topic, please.
It is unclear whether these are also the thoughts or bottom lines of the author, Mr Cornelius (?)
It doesn't seem unclear to me but I get what you're saying.
Of great personal drive, Jerry has announced and verified (to me) that he is a 9=2 operative. However, his highest grade in the OTO was VIII* (another Illuninatist). It is said that nobody can understand or operate the intricacies of the IX* without standing for the initiation. Handing out, or reading, Emblems does not constitute "standing."
Very well. But this is just a book review, not a personal/achievement review. But you know I can never tell if you're writing with your tongue in your cheek, or saying something more than you're saying.
but does not include the final ultimate supreme secret of the IX*, which Baphomet said could be disclosed in a sentence or two ... which he did, in Emblems).
I feel as if that secret is well enough known (though perhaps to very few members of OTO?), but that has never seemed very near the whole truth. Cornelius certainly dances around the edges of it.
Let's not let RTC's brief appearance derail the topic, please.
You are right sorry. I haven't read the book so far but I totally agree that (like Crowley's and many other occult authors') Jerry's books often do need an editor, though I still admire them. I like that they are very personal and usually not proselytizing.
Is that the cover of your new book Richard?..."The OTO Tries Out the Horus Toy"!
he deliberatedly left the final puzzle piece out.
Sure. Same old baloney that was used by AC for decades.
The final solution to any enigma or mystery is never declarable - for there is an unkowable and infinite factor involved.
What's going on here? Has spring arrived early due to the immanent collapse of the magnetosphere? So many authors ... and new books issuing from the highest numbered levels we can count ...
... but still falling short of zero.
Thanks for your excellent review and tip in another thread that the book is available.
While I have not read the entire book thus far, I will note that Mr. Cornelius in the introduction states that he intended purpose of the book is to be offensive.
Perhaps it was a comment on Lashtal, for Cornelius refers to a comment on the internet calling Francis King's Secret Rituals of the OTO" as "the most boring book in the world" with the punch line that "...if you know what your selling your soul for, Jesus is at the center of the gnosis" And where J. Edward goes on to affirm this, referencing that it was OTO instructions, though Crowley, that would lead Achad to taking Mass with the Catholic Church.
Of course the controversy of Jesus Christ, from Mr. Cornelius's admitted dualistic perspective, is that God has entered into the flesh, and that the great teaching of Jesus concerns the admonition that "The kingdom of God is within." and that Jesus was of the light side of the primal dualism, where the New Aeon, has opened the gates the Abyss, of darkness, Set, and that the teachings of the OTO, which are based upon Phallicism as a means of contacting the God, or as he states in the book, the "One True God" which would literally seem to be phallic in nature, and flesh, the tube by which the fire of heaven...is by a Promethian genius, where instructions on using one's penis, are given at Hod on the tree of life...get studying...
Thus it should be noted that Jerry was given by Grady McMurtry the VII degree of the OTO due to his work and library on phallicism that had impressed Grady, to which understanding of Hargrave Jennings work seems to have been one of the prerequisites that allowed J.Edward to pass the test so to speak, and followed by the VIII degree, but where the IX degree was not obtained relative to the death Grady, and hijacking by the Mottaites where Jerry was apparently destined to succeed Grady because he understood the secrets and the purpose and scope of the Order.
Of course J.E.C. says that he does not care about occult degrees at the same time as he is outlining his achievements, to which i get some sincerity about his statements, just as he seems very sincere in warning of the dangers relative to gripping ones penis incorrectly.
Thus i think Damien's concerns regarding a proselytizing in the book is relevant, as it would seem that there is a rather neurotic obsession at play, with rather stern warnings relative to abusing ones sexuality along the lines of what is redolent of teen age masturbatory gnosis and angst, where post ejaculatory malaise plays a part in providing a redux of old ministerial warnings regarding onanism and fucking one's brains out. indeed there does seem to be a certain anger at hand, relative to letting woman and men co- mingle in the lower OTO grades, or thinking the secret has anything to do with woman's anatomy, or those who romanticize the Qliphot or Lam, eastern tantras, etc,..
Anyways, as Lashtal concerns Aleister Crowley, then Mr. Cornelius's book, as with his others are important in providing a particular tradition of understanding about what the AC was about, like the note to Achad from AC that a husband has the right to tell his wife to sleep with someone else and that she must obey....or that women should just be delivered with the daily milk. (Back when civilization had milkmen bring fresh raw milk to people!)
Such are some of my early impressions and evaluations, to which I agree with Damien that the book does have a certain welcome density, that to fairly unpack what Jerry is getting at, with fairness to Mr. Cornelius, which this little review might not be, does require much more reflection and indepth writing.
Anyways,
Merry Christmas!
Sure. Same old baloney that was used by AC for decades.
And many others. It wouldn't be as silly and aggravating as it is were it not always predicated by grandiose statements about the "abolition of all obligations of secrecy.” If the abolition of secrecy is the premise and what follows is not a full revelation (because something MUST be kept secret), then it follows that the secret is not known.
While I have not read the entire book thus far, I will note that Mr. Cornelius in the introduction states that he intended purpose of the book is to be offensive.
True!
Such are some of my early impressions and evaluations, to which I agree with Damien that the book does have a certain welcome density, that to fairly unpack what Jerry is getting at, with fairness to Mr. Cornelius, which this little review might not be, does require much more reflection and indepth writing.
You put it all very well.
I was naturally drawn in by the title of this thread, and then I saw this
"...if you are a man and you have a penis, it's high time that you learn how to wield it correctly as if it were the Sacred Lance held in the hands of Parzival.
So I guess I'm not really qualified. 😥
for mere pleasure, whether one is married or not,
Why would marriage even matter?
is an utter sin for a sex magician.
or at least a waste of a good opportunity.
But you know I can never tell if you're writing with your tongue in your cheek, or saying something more than you're saying.
With Shiva the two aren't necessarily exclusive
"...if you know what your selling your soul for, Jesus is at the center of the gnosis"
Oh, this is just a derivative from those VIII* and IX* papers that don't make much sense, which Crowley wrote for/under Reuss, in which he makes a lotta references to Jesus. Reuss was still a Christian and he ordered that every Order document begin with "INRI."
So Crowley, the exuberant Jesus-hater, finds himself writing praise to the savior. It gets published in Secret Rituals, and some dork reads about Jesus in the higher grades, then thinks this is what it's about.
This is very high-level cause-and-effect to end up in a book that discloses secrets with no secrets at all revealed ... issued with malice ?
... where the New Aeon, has opened the gates the Abyss, of darkness, Set ...
Yeah, I agree with this part. Since Set murdered Osiris to get his throne, he must have gotten the throne, but that part is not recounted or otherwise mentioned in the legends. So the aeon of Osiris was ruled by Set (no wonder it was so cruel) from the shadows (darkness). The new aeon has merely thrown light into the shadows ...
"I can see [more] clearly now - the curtain is pulling away"
instructions on using one's penis, are given at Hod
The Anatomy & Physiology
of the Body of God
he seems very sincere in warning of the dangers relative to gripping ones penis incorrectly.
In Kendo ("The Tao of the Sword"), which is related to lance-poking and spear-slicing, the first lesson involves how to hold the weapon. Duh!
Incorrect Holding can (actually, will) lead to errors and probably death in combat.
with rather stern warnings relative to abusing ones sexuality along the lines of what is redolent of teen age masturbatory gnosis and angst
Here is the "official" oral transmission about this abuse, relative to the ninth and final practical degree of here-and-now-dom:
In Emblems, Baphomet tells us that [I paraphrase] at the Event Horizon, we may simply radiate light in all directions, but this can lead to mischief (the astral spirits messing with your pure light, you know) and it is best if you stay focused on a specific goal (like getting gold coins).
I have personally found most of this to be discretionary dogma that could more easily be explained as what you put out is what you get back, which is a universal principle that can also be applied to home construction and literary attempts, as well.
There are two key "secrets" to keep in mind, although they are not secret at all, and they are applicable to any endeavor ...
1. Every act is a magickal act.
2. Dharana must be steady.
In the case of sex magick, an orgasm is merely a trigger for entering dhyana.
In the case of Magickal Acting, one can hardly do this properly unless they first have ceremonial magick down to an automatic reflex action.
So Jerry, more or less, has laid out the proper doctrine, dogma, and directives that accompanied the original Crowley version of Sex Magick IX ... or more properly, VIII, as I have heard no mention of The Medicine of Metals, which is probably the final secret he omitted.
(Back when civilization had milkmen bring fresh raw milk to people!)
Back when? Not so long ago. When I was a kid, the milkman was a common utility. They drove milk trucks. They dressed in white, with military-type hays. They were very official. But in my youth, their milk was not raw, it was pasteurized. I don't know what it was in Crowley's long-term time zone.
While I have not read the entire book thus far, I will note that Mr. Cornelius in the introduction states that he intended purpose of the book is to be offensive.Damien reinforces with
True!
This saga gets saggier every second ... and sadder too.
So I guess I'm not really qualified.
The entire Crowley line, based upon European Esotericism for Gentlemen, is completely penis-based, and Crowley was the crown of that member. Nowhere in his writings, or those of his informants or successors is their instruction for the yoni or advice on how a woman should approach the union.
Blavatsky writes in the he tradition, and her descendant, Alice Bailey, refers to HPB as "him," and she writes in the he tradition as well. At least Bailey gives some Yin balance in her texts, compared to AC's Yang-style phallicism.
I was fortunate enough to have a lady adept available for instruction - after after I drifted out of the Thelema stable. Welcome to the ashram of Isis, the Divine Mother, affiliated with all the traditional masters (Morya, Koot Hoomi, Djwhal Khul, etc), and dealing out some of the most practical magic on anybody's record.
So, yeah, there's teaching available for guys and gals from the feminine point of view, but it's rather rare. You won't get it from Isis any more, as the avatar faded away a couple decades ago. Oh, she wasn't teaching sex - she was teaching The Garden of Consciousness, the Solar Angel, and Light.
I wrote a lot about her view (and potency) in a Chapter or two. Let me know if you'd like them ... for a relief from pointy lances and yang go-go.
But you know I can never tell if you're writing with your tongue in your cheek, or saying something more than you're saying.Katrice informs him
With Shiva the two aren't necessarily exclusive
Due to the nature of Damien's quandary, qualified by Katrice's response, I must assume that I am the ambivalent mumbler or scribbler as it were and is. You see, I missed the original Damien post and even the Katrice post and I'm playing catch-up now but finding even more posts missing in memory (MIM). Please have pity. I'm not scrolling further back in time at midnight.
If it is me who writes with a forked keyboard, you have at least identified the problem. I will now provide the solution in two modalities ...
1. Anytime something writ is, perhaps, confusing to intent or meaning, you are encouraged to say "WTF do you mean?" I can easily drop down from ambiguous announcements to street-level lingo. In my books, I almost always try to keep lofy subjects at street-level view. "No punches pulled" is written on the back cover of some of them.
I just exercised that mode while laying out the dogma of divine dickdom, above.
However, here in the hallowed halls, I am prone to shift into wu-wei for the purpose of effortless combat with [some] people who show true signs of insanity - it's a common enough condition at certain points along The Path, and it [usually] wear off, so that's the way it is. The only hope for liberation from paradox is to practice number ...
2. Have you noticed how many Magi are popping up around recently? Horus Toys, New Aeons, The Revelation of Long-Suppressed Hidden Sex Secrets. Probably some others that I missed.
Anyway, this Magus stuff is hard work for the prophet, and it provides fodder for The Grand Tribunal. Since the Tribunal part is passive, more yin you see, I now sit on that side and let phenomena arise.
When I'm operating properly, which is certainly not all the time, you may think of me as the Atu who precedes The Magician. The Magicians have an agenda - something to prove.
Then a few of us leave our Atus and get on over to Atu VIII to ask for proof of the something that claims to be proven.
Yeah, but that's a burden, and I'd rather move on to the holy-er place.
Note: [hint] The holy place is "peaceful," not ecstatic. Ecstasy is a hedonistic yang state, promoted by Aleister himself. It surely has its place, because it appears here and there, under certain conditions. For example, ecstasy is experienced when leaving the separate self for the peaceful place that leaves understanding behind.
That's a great question.
The question was about marriage. Let me slip in the feminine viewpoint of The Divine Mother ...
1. "God does not recognize Earth marriages" - a direct quote.
2. Marriages are made in Heaven was not one of her mantras, but her thinking and teaching moved along those lines.
Jerry has announced and verified (to me) that he is a 9=2 operative.
Do you mean the grade of Magus? If so, I'd be interested to know the nature of the verification.
Do you mean the grade of Magus? If so, I'd be interested to know the nature of the verification.
Around her, 9=2 = Magus, the Word. Yes.
"Verified" means I heard he had claimed 9=2, which is a pretty big step - so I asked him, "Is it true you have claimed 9=2?"
He responded, "Yes."
A clear and simple verification that, yes, he claimed 9=2.
If you thought I meant that his grade level has been verified by external entities, authorities, or Prophet Directories at the Chokmah Registry ... well, ha
There seems to be a tradition in the McM lineage for the upper canine to be a Magus. This tradition was founded by McM himself. What else can I say?
Nothing.
was a particular word proclaimed as well?
The Word proclaimed in relation to the question of verification was "Yes." It might have been followed by a ", I have," but that is merely collateral rubbish.
If you inquire about the intonation of a big word from a high plane that rumbles the reality of Life, I did not inquire, nor have I read about that sort of thing in relation to JC. He has not announced the opening of a new Aeon, and he continues the Crowley version of the A.'.A.'., named after McM, in a responsible and non-duplexed manner, so I assume his Word would sync with Abrahad or Thelema or something - so as to not conflict with the Word of the present Aeon.
But his preceder, the rascal McM, is the one to watch. He jumped - directly - from "Expelled Probationer" to Magus, 9=2, his Word was "OTO," and he got his Word - He won the federal case, retaining "OTO" legally. The irony, the calamity, the Universal Joke, is that he died a day or two after winning, but never heard about it, himself.
his Word was "OTO," and he got his Word - He won the federal case, retaining "OTO" legally. The irony, the calamity, the Universal Joke, is that he died a day or two after winning, but never heard about it, himself.
So the word didn't fill him...it killed him?
So the word didn't fill him...it killed him?
Ladeez and gennums, i believe we have a winner here! Give the man as his prize a cigar, spliff, or goldfish as he Wills!
Very nice indeed.
So the word didn't fill him...it killed him?
Heyo! Very well done.
So the word didn't fill him...it killed him?
An astute observation, framed as a question.
Of the top of my cranium, I'd say, "Yes."
Possibly, both are correct - with filling coming first.
The entire Crowley line, based upon European Esotericism for Gentlemen, is completely penis-based, and Crowley was the crown of that member.
The dickhead, so to speak 😉
Nowhere in his writings, or those of his informants or successors is their instruction for the yoni or advice on how a woman should approach the union.
Indeed, and that's left something of a legacy since then.
and dealing out some of the most practical magic on anybody's record.
How so?
So, yeah, there's teaching available for guys and gals from the feminine point of view, but it's rather rare.
Rare but prominent female sex magicians do exist. Notably, for example, Maria De Naglowska during Crowley's time, and Rosaleen Norton, and Jane Hurley-Cross, sometime after.
I wrote a lot about her view (and potency) in a Chapter or two. Let me know if you'd like them ... for a relief from pointy lances and yang go-go.
Certainly! Thank you!
But you know I can never tell if you're writing with your tongue in your cheek, or saying something more than you're saying.Katrice informs him
With Shiva the two aren't necessarily exclusive
Due to the nature of Damien's quandary, qualified by Katrice's response, I must assume that I am the ambivalent mumbler or scribbler as it were and is.
For the record, I meant nothing negative by that.
Please have pity. I'm not scrolling further back in time at midnight.
It can be challenging catching up.
2. Have you noticed how many Magi are popping up around recently? Horus Toys, New Aeons, The Revelation of Long-Suppressed Hidden Sex Secrets. Probably some others that I missed.
9=2 seems to be in the air. Unfortunately, some seem to not understand that the grade does not necessitate a new Aeon.
When I'm operating properly, which is certainly not all the time, you may think of me as the Atu who precedes The Magician.
In some senses acting like the IOT's office of Insubordinate.
Ecstasy is a hedonistic yang state, promoted by Aleister himself. It surely has its place,
Which I enthusiastically appreciate.
The question was about marriage. Let me slip in the feminine viewpoint of The Divine Mother ...
1. "God does not recognize Earth marriages" - a direct quote.
The bond is more important than official recognition by others
In the case of sex magick, an orgasm is merely a trigger for entering dhyana.
That is one of the most popular approaches, yes.
Which I enthusiastically appreciate.
Hopefully such things need no celebrity endorsement to remain valued and useful.
Hopefully such things need no celebrity endorsement to remain valued and useful.
Not needed at all, I was just expressing my appreciation for hedonistic yang states and their place in practice. 😀
ow so?
Certainly! Thank you!
Here. Combined from two sources (from my books), the typesetting may have shifted a bit ...
https://mega.nz/file/dEQ0SRxa#oqem8BA5L9zgbHOXspfTQBfmZCJbXOGTLDgQWNn6M6k
Due to the nature of Damien's quandary, qualified by Katrice's response, I must assume that I am the ambivalent mumbler or scribbler as it were and is.
Oh, okay ... welcome to The Obscure Mumblers Club (an obscure sub-club of The AC Society where people mumble and scribble in paradox.
By their deeds shall you know them...
@shiva – Jerry has announced and verified (to me) that he is a 9=2 operative. [...] "Verified" means I heard he had claimed 9=2, which is a pretty big step - so I asked him, "Is it true you have claimed 9=2?" He responded, "Yes." – Ha ha ha ha. Oh, this just gets funnier. By those rules I can self-identify and self-verify as a miniature Schnauzer - Emphatic YES with tail wag. Thus duly verified. Woof, woof, woof. Thank Horus Crowley is not alive to witness this shambolic orgy of self-delusion.
“I believed then, and believe now, that the Probationer of A∴A∴ is nearly always offered the opportunity to betray the Order, just as the Neophyte is nearly always tempted by a woman.” (Crowley)
Crusty the Crab certainly talks (and talks and talks and talks) the talk, but Crowley’s insight demolishes his bullshit – Failed Neophyte, as described! As for Crusty’s practical Magus skills with the Sacred Lance…
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“Abrogate are all rituals, all ordeals, all words and signs.” (Crowley)
Anyone remember that? The New Aeon of Horus has dawned. Phallocentric Osirian Sex Magick is equally redundant to a 9.6Kbd dial-up modem. Anyone actually able to demonstrate (rather than babble-on impotently) the efficacy of Sex Magick PLEASE speak now. If not, PLEASE return, quietly, to polishing your ego and vanity.
P.S. The term 'she' is an improper pronoun for a "pan-sexual" entity. Perhaps 'it' fits more snugly.
Anyone actually able to demonstrate (rather than babble-on impotently) the efficacy of The Horus Toy™ PLEASE speak now.
Fixed that for you.
I know you are just here to troll, but how about you shut your pie-hole* until you finally come up with those Pirie watermarks and Rose's honeymoon diary?
No one takes you seriously. You are universally considered a clown and a joke and a failure.
No amount of obnoxious, guideline-violating, trolling will ever change that.
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* I would like to note my saintly, and near-Buddha-like restraint, in using the term "pie-hole" here, and refraining from using offensive and inappropriate terms for mouth, such as, for example, "cock-holster".
By those rules I can self-identify and self-verify as a miniature Schnauzer
Yes. This is True. People are self-identifying, on all threads, with Magi, Toads, and Sex Magicians. We have a miniature Schnauser. He is very smart, You may proceed.
Oh, "those rules" were set by AC. He allowed VVVVV to arise.
He, and no other,
except his mother,
ID'd another
name for himself
The Great wild Therion
Thank Horus Crowley is not alive to witness this shambolic orgy of self-delusion.
He should be made ito witness it. He started it.
It would be different if he had released the secret doc about Ipsissimusdom, the one that tells how it's all illusion, but No - It is forbidden for a 10=1 to tell the truth, even to other members of the Order.
The New Aeon of Horus has dawned.
Oh, that little bump in the road was upgraded to Maat-sized proportions a couple years ago. Where have you been? You can catch up on the MA thread.
P.S. The term 'she' is an improper pronoun for a "pan-sexual" entity. Perhaps 'it' fits more snugly.
Woke up, did you?
I know you are just here to troll, but how about you shut your pie-hole until you finally come up with those Pirie watermarks and Rose's honeymoon diary?
Karma is Eternal, until you pay the fine.
It will follow you, right down the Line.
If you thought I meant that his grade level has been verified by external entities, authorities, or Prophet Directories at the Chokmah Registry ... well, ha
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I had read what you said with too little attention.
I had read what you said with too little attention.
That's easy enough to do, especially since the verify word was dangling out there.
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While all this Magus stuff is going on, on parallel threads, no less (what is the sound of two words being intoned in two different, but adjacent forum halls?), let me slip in a different perspective.
In that "Across the Himalayan," other, yin lineage of the Great Light Personhood, a Master of the Wisdom is the title of their 5th initiation, which is equivalent to a 9=2 over here on this side of the mountains.
They don't have one Master (Magus) - there are a few. If one were to count up the "open slots" to be filled by 4th-initiation Adepts (8=3) and 5th-initiation Masters, the number would be 49 (7x7), which could lead one to think of the Saints who succumbed to Babalon. The word is that there are not 49 ashrams open, so there are still some really "open" slots
An interesting thing is that the grade at the Binah level (4th-initiation / 8=3) and the Chokmah level (5th-initiation / 9=2) are both above the Abyss, and are thus without form and are void ... to the separate mind.
Since they represent and acknowledge, respectively, understanding and wisdom, one can appreciate the fact that these qualities or states have no form, color, name, or number.
If a person comes along and says, I am an 8=3 [a relatively common phenomenon], or [less common]. I'm a 9=2, then we must understand (can you do it?) that they are a human person in the 3D world, and that the X=X part is way out and above the vehicle who is speaking. AC said as much.
There are vehicles known as false prophets. There's supposed to be a lot of them during the end days, which surely is now.
You can tell the "true" prophets by their words (writ and spoke), by their aura, or by their ability to neutralize you (a state of temporary grace).
And the very last thing you want to recognize as valid, is when somebody announces their own, self-granted, initiatory degree (of a high level).
(If someone says, I'm a 2=9, it's probably true - because that's not high enough to project wonder or awe, or maybe holier-than-you.
If not, PLEASE return, quietly, to polishing your ego and vanity.
Why does this not apply to you and your own work?
Here. Combined from two sources (from my books), the typesetting may have shifted a bit ...
Thank you!
By those rules I can self-identify and self-verify as a miniature Schnauzer - Emphatic YES with tail wag. Thus duly verified.
Shiva's statement was very obviously tongue-in-cheek.
just as the Neophyte is nearly always tempted by a woman.” (Crowley)
Women can indeed be very tempting ,but it's what you do about that temptation that's important. 😊
Phallocentric Osirian Sex Magick is equally redundant to a 9.6Kbd dial-up modem.
I can agree with this idea in regards to Phallocentric Osirian Sex Magick. There are other options.
Anyone actually able to demonstrate (rather than babble-on impotently) the efficacy of Sex Magick PLEASE speak now.
Define your criteria for demonstration,please?
P.S. The term 'she' is an improper pronoun for a "pan-sexual" entity. Perhaps 'it' fits more snugly.
Singular "they" is more personal, though.
Women can indeed be very tempting ,but it's what you do about that temptation that's important.
Knowing how to resist the urge not to give in is the true test of the highest grade. 😉
Knowing how to resist the urge not to give in is the true test of the highest grade.
A test I can say from experience can be extremely challenging sometimes. 😉
A test I can say from experience can be extremely challenging sometimes.
Oh, a fellow initiate of the mysteries I see.
One of the secrets is learning how to give in to temptation without letting it own you, and using that for magick. The Word of Indulgence. 😉
Maybe it's all over thunk.
The male thinks
its in control,
missing the picture
until the penis
contols what he thinks.
Then the Bliss
bestowed by the Goddess
is touched and tasted.
Lost;
the strategery abandoned;
gone gone gone beyond.
But i read the book awhile ago and it seemed like it had an Actaeon and Artemis theme to it.
One of the secrets is learning how to give in to temptation without letting it own you, and using that for magick. The Word of Indulgence.
One of the simple secrets of life is learning how to give into temptation without letting it own you, or ruining you, magick aside (depending upon your definition of magick).
But i read the book awhile ago and it seemed like it had an Actaeon and Artemis theme to it.
Didn't this book just come out?
One of the simple secrets of life is learning how to give into temptation without letting it own you, or ruining you, magick aside (depending upon your definition of magick).
I will admit that another of the secrets is to not make a distinction between magick and "life" 😉
Didn't this book just come out?
No.It's been around a few months, or so. A review was offered a while ago [time passes] and this thread is the result of that review with other reviewers chirping in now.
From everything so far posted, it seems there are possible complexities, and most reviewers merely offer a perusal over-review, possibly because they are still scratching their heads. There is an indication or two that that no new "secrets" are revealed.
Did you know that Maat is the girlfriend of Tahuti? To think that one over puts a light on a whole new pantheon.
I will admit that another of the secrets is to not make a distinction between magick and "life"