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herupakraath
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For future reference: The Zodiacal Array, the graphic interface of the Tri-key alphabet:

The Zodiacal Array

 


   
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Very thoughtful of you but isn't this most reproduced image in books concerning the occult?  It figures largely in Magick in Theory and Practice.


   
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@toadstoolwe - May want to see the optometrist; it appears that your eyeglass prescription may be out-dated. There are 10 spheres and 22 paths in the one you are thinking about, not 9 and 26.


   
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@ignant666 Does that really have any significance?  Enlighten me.


   
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Posted by: @Anonymous

Does that really have any significance?  Enlighten me.

I surely do hope you are joking. If not, a whole lot of what is discussed hereabouts appears to have gone over your head (by miles!).

To put it country simple: 9 is not 10, and 26 is not 22.

 


   
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@ignant666  I admit it.  Much of it does. I don't really get into magic numbers and ciphers, adding, subtracting, dividing, etc.  I know it is a huge part of Thelemic teaching, but I just take it at face value, and say to myself, okay.  I find it ascetically pleasing to look at the formulas, but I don't necessarily know what it means. Like magic(K) squares, they look cool, and they are enjoyable to draw.  "SATOR ROTAS" "ABRACADABRA" vs. ABRAHADABRA.  that sort of stuff.


   
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Posted by: @Anonymous

Very thoughtful of you but isn't this most reproduced image in books concerning the occult?

No. It is a variation, derivative, wherein the paths and spheres have been rearranged from the traditional Tree we know so well.

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Does that really have any significance?

Noy at all. Anybody is free to design their own unique, individual, personal Tree scaffold to become the girders and pillars of their minf.

On the other hand. if someone invents a new language, alphabeta, or numero system, and nobody else can understand it, or disagrees, new Trees and Lingos will not be sustained by the audience.

Please refer to fiddle, fiddling, and finessing.

Posted by: @ignant666

To put it country simple: 9 is not 10, and 26 is not 22.

Are you able to prove these ridiculous inferences?

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I just take it at face value

The face value of the ancient and accepted Tree of Life consists of ten (10) spheres (circle things) and twenty-two (22) paths (connecting lines with archetypal figures controlling or defining each path (line).

 

 


   
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Posted by: @shiva

Noy at all. Anybody is free to design their own unique, individual, personal Tree scaffold to become the girders and pillars of their minf.

 

So the variations of the Tree of Life are infinite.?


   
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So the variations of the Tree of Life are infinite.?

Everyone is also allowed to invent their own version of the periodic table of the elements.

Switching Hydrogen and Helium may not work as well as the standard version, but when self-expression is at stake, who cares about mere vulgar results?

The 10 sphere, 22 path tree of QBL is not quite as "real" as the periodic table, but is tried and true enough that we can say it "works". It has a consistent internal logic. New versions must demonstrate that they are better in some way.

Of course the OP considers this superiority as having been demonstrated by him having created it. One imagines his infant bowel movements must have been met by ecstatic approval.


   
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Posted by: @ignant666

Posted by: @Anonymous

So the variations of the Tree of Life are infinite.?

Everyone is also allowed to invent their own version of the periodic table of the elements.

Switching Hydrogen and Helium may not work as well as the standard version, but when self-expression is at stake, who cares about mere vulgar results?

The 10 sphere, 22 path tree of QBL is not quite as "real" as the periodic table, but is tried and true enough that we can say it "works". It has a consistent internal logic. New versions must demonstrate that they are better in some way.

Of course the OP considers this superiority as having been demonstrated by him having created it. One imagines his infant bowel movements must have been met by ecstatic approval.

  Indeed it was.  My bowel movement was encased in gold and placed in a holy relicquary in the bowels of the chapel perilous.

 


   
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My bowel movement

Was not referring to you, but rather to the "OP" ["Original Poster", ie thread originator], who is another person. But i am gratified, and not a bit surprised, at this information.

Congratulations on successful quoting at last.


   
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@ignant666   Thanks for that.  What can I say?  I'm a narcissistic egotist.... Everything is about ME!


   
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So the variations of the Tree of Life are infinite.?

Yes, but we can Qliphoth most of the. We (anyone who has made a study of this stuff) would be interested in reviewing any version, out of infinite possibilities, that makes sense ... in terms of

Correctly Reflecting the
Spectrum of Consciousness

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New versions must demonstrate that they are better in some way.

 

This [^] quote has an automatically-inserted extra line above the end/quote. I will leaveit in to see what happens. It may merely be a line break at the end of your text.

Yes (new versions) must be "proven" to be a valid upgrade ... if they are to be accepted.

 


   
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Dwtw

Well it's pretty. And symmetrical.

The Lightning Flash is 97, which equals אמון Amun.

Litllwtw

O.L.


   
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Posted by: @Anonymous

ascetically pleasing

"aesthetically" pleasing, though maybe your aesthetics are ascetic?  😉 

 

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So the variations of the Tree of Life are infinite.?

 

Potentially, and there are even other "traditional" variations from the standard Kircher Tree,like the Gra Tree.

The 10 spheres/22 paths model is the standard for most Western Ceremonial magick,though it and the other Trees themselves are simply qabalistic versions of the emanationist model of the macro and micro cosms. The Kircher Tree, among other things, is the model for the grades of the A:.A:..  

 

 


   
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"aesthetically" pleasing, though maybe your aesthetics are ascetic? 

You got me there.  This even got by the hawk eyes of Ignant666, BUT you nailed me!  (Not to a cross mind you). I will now spend the day staring at the wall as punishment.


   
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Posted by: @shiva

No. It is a variation, derivative,

Modeled after would be a better assessment.

Posted by: @shiva

wherein the paths and spheres have been rearranged from the traditional Tree we know so well.

"Rearranged" suggests a modification of the Tree; the Zodiacal Array is an original, spontaneous creation, and only superficially similar to the Tree of Life.

Posted by: @shiva

The face value of the ancient and accepted Tree of Life consists of ten (10) spheres (circle things) and twenty-two (22) paths (connecting lines with archetypal figures controlling or defining each path (line).

Yes Dad, we know. 😎 

Posted by: @threefold31

Well it's pretty.

Thanks.

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And symmetrical.

One of its strong suits.

Five years after the Tri-key alphabet was created, I had made it a point not to copy the Qabalah by using a variation of the Tree of Life, but was noodling in a notebook one afternoon, and thought if I were to create an interface using numbers, it should use the values 1-9. I scribbled the nine stations of the array down on paper as fast as possible, and connected the stations together by drawing connecting lines as fast as possible, without counting them: it took no more than 30 seconds to create the figure. When the count of paths added to 26, I knew it was perfect for the Tri-key. That's my idea of pure will.

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The Lightning Flash is 97

Since the Zodiacal Array is not Qabalah, I have not made any real comparisons between it and the Tree of Life. The numbers were assigned to the stations with the goal of creating the most balanced configuration, with all three columns adding to 15, as do the two diagonal angles that pass through the center station. 97 is the Tri-key value of Do what thou wilt.

 


   
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Posted by: @herupakraath

For future reference: The Zodiacal Array, the graphic interface of the Tri-key alphabet:

The Zodiacal Array

 

You should consider making it in color.  Especially using the appropriate color scheme.


   
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@herupakraath 

The offering is worthy of beholding!

And where familiarity is challenged for all the better, for derivative or inspired, i do find it interesting to find the number five in the middle~` and where this whorl is at a particular station of nested trees...

And as we are as far away as stars and yet by these keys

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Posted by: @herupakraath

Since the Zodiacal Array is not Qabalah, I have not made any real comparisons between it and the Tree of Life. The numbers were assigned to the stations with the goal of creating the most balanced configuration, with all three columns adding to 15, as do the two diagonal angles that pass through the center station. 97 is the Tri-key value of Do what thou wilt.

Swtw

Yes, I noticed that it is more a variation on the Lo Shu than on the Tree of Life.

Are you saying you also deliberately placed the paths connecting stations 1 to 9 so that they would equal Do what thou wilt?

 

Litlluw

O.L.

 


   
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Posted by: @threefold31

Are you saying you also deliberately placed the paths connecting stations 1 to 9 so that they would equal Do what thou wilt?

No, I was unaware of the value until you pointed it out.


   
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Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

The offering is worthy of beholding!

Witness then its unfolding!

Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

And where familiarity is challenged for all the better, for derivative or inspired, i do find it interesting to find the number five in the middle~` and where this whorl is at a particular station of nested trees...

The fifth station is the seat of the element of Spirit, the point from which Hadit observes and interacts with the universe as portrayed.

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And as we are as far away as stars and yet by these keys

Rave on poet.

 


   
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