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Thelema as a religion and the order


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I have a brief question, I'm a thelemite, or at least I consider myself to be a thelemite, a accept the Law, the Liber Legis and the prophet, but I'm not a member of any order, the OTO or any other order. My question would be, is it necessary to belong to the OTO (or any other group) in order to be a Thelemite?


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spike418
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Thelema Asclepio

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Orders can help or hinder ................

ALWays

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 Anonymous
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I must concur with the above comment. I also consider myself a Thelemite but am not presently affiliated with any organization making a similar profession of faith. (I simply use the term faith for lack of a better word) πŸ™‚


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Nobody needs to belong to an Order to be a Thelemite. Orders can be, and many times are, a distraction from the Great Work. There is more than enough information in books and on the internet, and if you are fortunate, from an experienced teacher, to discover and execute your True Will. The Work is what is important. If you want to play with others of like mind, then a social club will do. Thou art a King, and only "the slaves shall serve".

Caveat emptor.

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Personally I think that being a Thelemite involves obeying the Prophet, which entails making our own way through the ordeals of life, undertaking the rituals concealed & revealed, and accepting the Law. That second clause, I personally think includes initiation according to the instructions of the Prophet.

I recommend that you check out the Djeridensis Working for more of Crowley's view on what makes a Thelemite.


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 Anonymous
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Thiebes, thank you for the reference to the Djeridensis Working, I've scanned the contents. Will read in full as time allows.:) The one thing I'm learning is this....I have a lot more to learn! After all, I've only recently discovered I'm living in a New Aeon! Of course one doesn't necessarily shed the old Aeon's programing and addictions instantly. I accept the Law! πŸ˜€ Now begins the process of self discovery in order to define what that means and then to do it. This is the Genesis of The Great Work. My personal mission is to learn, meditate and understand the Holy Books of Thelema, at least as best can be accomplished through devotion to study, practice etc. Will see where it goes! 😯


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I would add that you don't even need to don the word "Thelemite" to be a Thelemite...in fact, if the word is replaced with one of your own choosing-or no word at all-you don't even need that word to be it...although, I'm not in any way indicating that Orders or Titles or Self-Definition should be done away with, either...Crowley took so much from his own Universe (such as the Symbolism from Revelation) and made it his own in the Cauldron of his Spiritual Life...I can no longer see the Beast or Babalon adored as something inimical to Revelation's condemnation of the same...from their brief cameo in the Bible emerged a complete symbol-saga in Crowley. And as we all connect into Crowley, so those energies and forces form a very unique and special connection to our own lives...and perhaps will transform and metamorph yet again, be such for sharing or ourselves alone.

I really like your posts, Edge. You just come at the whole thing with a feeling of authentic love and eyes untarnished by Cultish Preprogramming. You also post pretty frequently and I hope this continues as I feel your own insights, discoveries and enthusiasm will have a lot to offer (without even trying to make it so!).

I think I WILL call you Little Sunshine!

93, Brother!

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πŸ™‚ Thank you for the kind words, I'm happy to have found a community such as this one. I see it as a opportunity for learning which as everyone knows = knowledge and this of course =power! Power is what is needed in great demand when one discovers "there is no god but man". I can assure you I'm all to familiar with (cults.) I really dislike that word because I feel to often it has negative connotations. Unfortunately as has been proven time and time again this is often the case. In fact one only need to look very closely to see examples. I can tell you this, I've walked the silent halls of the cloister, (OSB) I've preformed the prescribed rituals, I've studied and prayed amongst the so called chosen ones. Mind you these are old Aeon systems. Yet here am I today..ATU IX.

What does all this have to do with orders..? It comes down to karma and a brother or sister's choice. There is a place in any system for Orders, just not for everyone. Personally I'm glad Thelelma has sacred orders, after all these brave souls have safeguarded many of the prophetic writings which quite frankly would have been lost, distorted or destroyed. What introduced me to Thelema, none other than Aleister Crowley's Thoth tarot. Would that have happend without the efforts of McMurtry and the like? πŸ˜€

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If you're asking that question, I'd like to recommend to you a very good book - The Equinox Volume 3 Number 10 - it answered all those kind of questions for me.

Check it out here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0877287198/sr=8-1/qid=1155331198/ref=sr_1_1/103-6335437-9540661?ie=UTF8

To briefly answer your question though, no, you don't need to belong to any magickal order to be a Thelemite.

93


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