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azrael2393
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10/04/2020 8:24 am  

Topic says all, but let me expand just a little.

So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema.

What are you going to do with it? Does this solution bring you anything, to you personally or to share with the rest of the world? 

Crowley certainly thought of his role as Prophet (ahem...) as one of shining Light onto the World: will you do the same? Are you re-establishing the Invisible College? Is there anything else to it than just proving that you are good with Gematria (ahem!!!)?

 


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10/04/2020 12:19 pm  

Ah yes the demi-God who solves the riddle.  Where are they? Probably queuing up for toilet paper in a supermarket car park as we speak.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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10/04/2020 12:41 pm  

@azrael2393 - "So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema.  What are you going to do with it? Does this solution bring you anything, to you personally or to share with the rest of the world?"

- Hey, I get to wear the Magicole Hair cap. How uber-cool is that.  What more could anyone want!

You have this the wrong way around. Solving the riddle is incidental, save that it underlines my Greater Heresy suggestive that the Cairo material was Crowley's best effort to describe an experience beyond his capacity to assimilate.  So, scrape all that receptive, flappy angel hogwash off your aura and get with the Horus crowd - We can play with the Horus Toy™ and self-manifest the New Aeon.

Spreading this this unimaginable joy upon Earth, this Glad Word, to everyone on the planet, is the motto on the Magicole Hair cap. 😎  

  


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10/04/2020 12:48 pm  

@therealrtc that sounds reasonable to me, but your solution is also a little different from Tim Moss' or Wizaordian or however that name is spelled. Those two kinda say the cypher speaks of THEM - both, of course, according to different solutions - directly. 

I am curious to hear what it means to them, what are they gonna do with it.


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10/04/2020 1:44 pm  

@azrael2393 - Apologies for being me, again.  Using ALL riddle characters gives:

R I  4 +A(1)+ G(3)=8=Ch   A R 4(=D)

T

8(=Ch) O L e

29    8    1 (6+3=) 9 V(5) O

X(10) 24 PM

L S B?

 

Can I add my name to the bespoke solvery club?  It took about ten minutes to derive my full name, plus correct date and exact time (as per my Birth Certificate) of birth, using all but three of the riddle characters. Thankfully Aiwass obligingly added a ‘?’, indicating that one shall come after me who will solve this final trinity and claim my Magicole Hair cap (LSB correlates to 30+60+2=92. Thus awaiting the ‘1’ who will complete the equation.)

Alternately, it demonstrates that numerology can be bent into any shape, to suit personal agendas - Unlike my solution, which has only one true form. 🙃  


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10/04/2020 6:14 pm  
Posted by: @therealrtc

What more could anyone want!

Um, maybe to NOT wear the Magicole Hair beanie, and thus be free of retributory karma and other bad press?

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Can I add my name to the bespoke solvery club?

In terms of News Briefings and Advertising, I'd say their names are to be added to yours. But yes, if you want to rearrange the pricking pecking order, your name may be added to the List of Saints Who Tried.

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Alternately, it demonstrates that numerology can be bent into any shape, to suit personal agendas

Careful now. You are giving away Secret Occult Knowledge on a public forum that is not a "teaching" site.

 


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10/04/2020 6:31 pm  

In my humble opinion the cypher is a red herring. A big waste of time with everyone scurrying for a "solution" Aiwass never asked for. Too many assumptions are made about it's significance. Too much time is spent analyzing it. It has become quite a contest with the "winners" waving their tickets and yelling "BINGO!" from the back of the room. Entertaining nonetheless. I just ordered RTC's latest book and I am interested in what he has to say about it being a setup by AC. But that's probably wrong too.

75. Aye! listen to the numbers & the words:
 
76. 4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y X 24 89 R P S T O V A L. What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it. But remember, o chosen one, to be me; to follow the love of Nu in the star-lit heaven; to look forth upon men, to tell them this glad word.

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10/04/2020 7:38 pm  

How I view "solutions" to the Cipher:

ganesh

 

They're interesting but so far I haven't been convinced by any of them as being "The One Solution to Solve Them All".

 

What I want from the Solution should it even be possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmwYqoUp44

 

(I am actually wacky and "quacky" enough to believe it is somehow possible 😉 )


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10/04/2020 8:08 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

Topic says all, but let me expand just a little.

So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema.

What are you going to do with it? Does this solution bring you anything, to you personally or to share with the rest of the world? 

Crowley certainly thought of his role as Prophet (ahem...) as one of shining Light onto the World: will you do the same? Are you re-establishing the Invisible College? Is there anything else to it than just proving that you are good with Gematria (ahem!!!)?

 

I don't really buy the idea that solving the riddles makes you anything more special than a guy who solved a riddle. The idea of the magical child isn't related to humankind, its a reference to the true identity of Aiwaz as Set, the Son of Nuit and Ra, the solution to iii47. Likewise the solution to ii76 being 777 says nothing about the solver, its just a logical solution to prove the intelligence of Aiwaz. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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10/04/2020 8:20 pm  

Like I said, demi-god (or golden child) in supermarket queue for toilet paper.   

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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10/04/2020 11:25 pm  

@dom

 

May your left hand stay clean, inshallah. 

 

I dont think these riddles really mean anything to these people.  Well minus Richard. At least he is keeping it 'generalised'

I too distrust those that ego-ise all their riddles to include their names.

Hi Michael T. 😉 

Not a ribbing? 

Now I am hungry.

How much muscle- 

 

 


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11/04/2020 1:46 am  
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

The idea of the magical child isn't related to humankind, its a reference to the true identity of Aiwaz as Set, the Son of Nuit and Ra, the solution to iii47.

That is a very liberal, but specific, cosmology

 


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11/04/2020 1:49 am  

@shiva

I'm not sure if that's compliment or critique :). But as someone well read in early Egypt, its actually not that novel at all. In fact its pretty much original, pre-Osiris Egyptian religion. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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11/04/2020 2:27 am  
Posted by: @azrael2393

So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema.

This is one of many presumed and false assumptions.

Posted by: @azrael2393

Crowley certainly thought of his role as Prophet (ahem...) as one of shining Light onto the World: will you do the same? Are you re-establishing the Invisible College? Is there anything else to it than just proving that you are good with Gematria (ahem!!!)?

The longer and more drawn out the "solution", the more time spent analyzing and decyphering, arguing about it...only goes to prove TRUE what was said in the prophetic and most holy of holy movies "Repo Man":

"The more you drive, the less intelligent you are."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgBz2CMCqE

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11/04/2020 2:42 am  
Posted by: @dom

Ah yes the demi-God who solves the riddle.  Where are they? Probably queuing up for toilet paper in a supermarket car park as we speak.

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Like I said, demi-god (or golden child) in supermarket queue for toilet paper.   

Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.


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11/04/2020 8:42 am  
Posted by: @xon

Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.

Otherwise expressed in the proverb, "Wack on, wack off."

Which very much applies to the spring festivities currently ongoing.

Carry on fools!


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11/04/2020 9:32 am  
Posted by: @elitemachinery

Otherwise expressed in the proverb, "Wack on, wack off."

 

That's you revealing your truth. 🤚  The implication in my post was along the conventional interpretation.

Posted by: @elitemachinery

Which very much applies to the spring festivities currently ongoing.

Carry on fools!

Maybe if you keep advertising your superiority you will convince who you need to.


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11/04/2020 9:34 am  
Posted by: @elitemachinery

This is one of many presumed and false assumptions.

Is it? Maybe, but surely a lot of the "solvers" believe it.


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11/04/2020 10:06 am  
Posted by: @xon

That's you revealing your truth.

Yes sir I am a certified professional wacka! Didn't you know?

Posted by: @xon

The implication in my post was along the conventional interpretation.

Effective trolling requires a response. Thank you. You may continue.

Posted by: @azrael2393

Is it? Maybe, but surely a lot of the "solvers" believe it.

Yes it's that time of year again..

Posted by: @xon

Maybe if you keep advertising your superiority you will convince who you need to.

Superior?! Why yes of course thank you! I have officially graduated the "last rites of spring" and moved to a higher more efficient level of stupidity!


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11/04/2020 10:16 am  
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Posted by: @xon

That's you revealing your truth.

Yes sir I am a certified professional wacka! Didn't you know?

Posted by: @xon

The implication in my post was along the conventional interpretation.

Effective trolling requires a response. Thank you. You may continue.

 

You are what you eat and you're a load. Maybe there's another guru out there for you to fellate who will convince you that you saw your angel. Not that there's anything wrong with the sexual act.


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11/04/2020 10:23 am  
Posted by: @xon

You are what you eat and you're a load. Maybe there's another guru out there for you to fellate who will convince you that you saw your angel.

Unlike yours my observations and opinion weren't meant to be personal. I'm sorry if I offended your anonymous forum profile. Did you somehow lump yourself in with the rest of my underlings? I'm sorry you feel that way. And yes that's Mr Blow to you.


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11/04/2020 10:36 am  
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Unlike yours my observations and opinion weren't meant to be personal. I'm sorry if I offended your anonymous forum profile. Did you somehow lump yourself in with the rest of my underlings? I'm sorry you feel that way. And yes that's Mr Blow to you.

It's more worthwhile to have people sharing their interpretations of the solution than reading someone talking themselves up while belittling and discouraging solvers whose contributions may help in understanding the riddle in unexpected ways. You used my post as a springboard for your attack. That made it personal.


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11/04/2020 10:39 am  
Posted by: @elitemachinery

In my humble opinion the cypher is a red herring. A big waste of time with everyone scurrying for a "solution" Aiwass never asked for. Too many assumptions are made about it's significance. Too much time is spent analyzing it. It has become quite a contest with the "winners" waving their tickets and yelling "BINGO!" from the back of the room. Entertaining nonetheless. I just ordered RTC's latest book and I am interested in what he has to say about it being a setup by AC. But that's probably wrong too.

75. Aye! listen to the numbers & the words:
 
76. 4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y X 24 89 R P S T O V A L. What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it. But remember, o chosen one, to be me; to follow the love of Nu in the star-lit heaven; to look forth upon men, to tell them this glad word.

Yeah it could be an amoral booby-trap (or a trap that is there merely to test/lure/ lead to a dog-pit of reason). 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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11/04/2020 11:01 am  
Posted by: @xon

It's more worthwhile to have people sharing their interpretations of the solution than reading someone talking themselves up while belittling and discouraging solvers whose contributions may help in understanding the riddle in unexpected ways. You used my post as a springboard for your attack. That made it personal.

Did it sound like I was discouraging? I was merely fanning the flames. And flaming the fans. Anyone brave enough to upload a "solution" to this website (and suffer the consequences) deserves a medal of honor.  My self included.

I do find myself a tad bit ashamed that I too posted a solution in these forums. I'm finding myself more and more fond of the few remaining Lashtalians (reptillians?) that have yet to offer one including ignant shiva dom staley etc.

Posted by: @dom

Yeah it could be an amoral booby-trap (or a trap that leads to an OCD dog-pit of reason)  an enigma which tests the reader for his nerdiness and fitness levels and possible outcast status. 

I'm not saying that I am correct. It's just a theory. But you seem to understand what i'm hinting at. It kinda like the image below:

The amount of time distance and thought one puts into understanding the above image is in direct proportion to a deficiency in another area.

But don't take my word for it. It's just a theory.

Do what thou wilt!


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11/04/2020 11:06 am  
Posted by: @elitemachinery

The amount of time distance and thought one puts into understanding the above image is in direct proportion to a deficiency in another area.

But don't take my word for it. It's just a theory.

Do what thou wilt!

Haha like a fly banging it's head against a window.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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11/04/2020 2:28 pm  

Funny how nobody answered  my questions yet. 

But keep flaming, have fun 🙂


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11/04/2020 2:38 pm  

@azrael2393 - "Nobody"?  Nay, the one true Magicole Hair responded to your query! 😆    


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11/04/2020 3:15 pm  

@azrael2393

I haven't found what I consider a solution but I did get the cipher to turn into the word "OM". So you could say the real solution is the real "Om" and this is just a "graven image" of that real Om.

 

Posted by: @azrael2393

What are you going to do with it? Does this solution bring you anything, to you personally or to share with the rest of the world?

I guess its telling me to do "Om" (to do meditation). It brought me the "satisfaction" of finding something meaningful in the cipher, the maths behind it is pretty simple but it might appear quite obscure if you are not familiar with it. I shared it with the "rest of the world" by posting it on this forum, the OP is a bit rambling but the later pics I posted might communicate it better.


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11/04/2020 3:52 pm  

dom: "Yeah it could be an amoral booby-trap (or a trap that is there merely to test/lure/ lead to a dog-pit of reason). "

 

Concerning Crowley's track record of humor at the expense of others, that can indeed be the case:

 

"“Ordinary morality is only for ordinary people.” ― Aleister Crowley, The Confessions of Aleister Crowley: An Autohagiography" (Source: 'Thelema Quotes Quotes tagged as "thelema" Showing 1-30 of 64' - - -  https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/thelema  )

"“The initiation undergone by St. John of the Cross was a very high one, and one which Crowley fancied himself to have taken. He makes much of ‘The Wastelands’ and ‘Babe of the Abyss’ and one of his groups was called the Order of the Silver Star after the title of the Tarot Trump of this Path. But initiation is not merely a question of knowing the externals of symbolism, it is a state of being, and anyone can judge for themselves the extent of Crowley’s real condition by comparing his writings with those of St. John of the Cross, who achieved without any advanced knowledge of symbols, secret or otherwise, but purely by faith and spiritual will. An even more revealing and damning analysis would be to compare their lives. It seems necessary to emphasise this, not so much for the doubtful pleasure of kicking a man who is already down, but in order to act as a warning to the many who tend to injure themselves by trying to follow the Crowley system without sufficient knowledge of its pitfalls — some of which, sad to say, seem deliberately placed, either through malice or a misplaced sense of humour.” ― Gareth Knight" (Source: Thelema Quotes Quotes tagged as "thelema" Showing 1-30 of 64 - - - https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/thelema )

( https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/37643.Gareth_Knight  )

 

"This Book proves: there is a Person thinking and acting in a praeterhuman manner, either without a body of flesh, or with the power of communicating telepathically with men and inscrutably directing their actions. I write this therefore with a sense of responsibility so acute that for the first time in my life I regret my sense of humour and the literary practical jokes which it has caused me to perpetrate. I am glad, though, that care was taken of the MS. itself and of diaries and letters of the period, so that the physical facts are as plain as can be desired. My sincerity and seriousness are proved by my life. I have fought this Book and fled it; I have defiled it and I have suffered for its sake. Present or absent to my mind, it has been my Invisible Ruler. It has overcome me; year after year extends its invasion of my being. I am the captive of the Crowned and Conquering Child." (Source: The Equinox of the Gods, CHAPTER VII. Remarks on the method of receiving Liber Legis, on the Conditions prevailing at the time of the writing, and on certain technical difficulties connected with the Literary form of the Book - - - http://www.oto-hu.org/documents/publication/english/Equinox_of_Gods.html  )


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11/04/2020 6:18 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

Funny how nobody answered  my questions yet. 

I didn't catch the question. But I didn't submit a solution to anything, so how would I know the answer to anything?

Posted by: @therealrtc

Nay, the one true Magicole Hair responded to your query!

There is a division hither homeward. There is a sign of response on the horizon ("Horus-zone").

Posted by: @wellreadwellbred

"This Book proves: ...

So many claims of "proof," yet all claims so far are nothing but "poof." (See what happens when the elusive "r" is in the occulted phase?)

Poof: "Onomatopoeia indicating a cloud of smoke or wind;
caused by a deflating object, or a magical disappearance."

 


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11/04/2020 11:33 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema

The phrase, the chosen one, is absent from the Book of the Law, which demonstrates the capacity of the average critic to make a fair and accurate assessment of the solutions. The misuse of the phrase is remarkably common, which suggests it is a preconception born from within the ego of critics that fear the power the solution might bestow upon someone chosen for such a task. Phrases that are seen in text are chosen one, and chosen ones, which suggests there is room on the train for everyone that can afford the price of a ticket.

To answer your question: Who gives a shit.

 


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12/04/2020 2:22 am  
Posted by: @herupakraath

Who gives a shit.

I do. Occasionally.

 


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12/04/2020 4:39 am  
Posted by: @azrael2393

Funny how nobody answered  my questions yet. 

No one has answered your question directly because it's a loaded question. It makes false presumptions.

Posted by: @wellreadwellbred

Concerning Crowley's track record of humor at the expense of others, that can indeed be the case:

I don't think Crowley set this up. I'm suggesting that Aiwass set Crowley up.

Crowley had a big ego, so hearing words like 'Holy Chosen One' and "Prophet" were an important part of getting AC to participate.

Given a puzzle of sorts. Crowley struggles to understand it and writes about it's meaning even though Aiwass said:

"What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever."

So Crowley took the bait first. And his struggles with the text and search for an explanation added great significance to the "finding of a solution" for anyone watching.

Through this Aiwass has created a honeypot of sorts. Sort of like a pretty gal on the side of the road struggling with a flat tire. Every asshole driving by is suddenly a hero and gets to take a shot at being the "chosen one."

Another scenario: Let's say you ran a company and had an important position to fill. You needed someone who was smart, worked well with others, etc.

You interview 15 candidates and make it clear that you're looking for the "smartest fellow in the room."

Before you make your choice you invite all the candidates to a company party at your home. On the coffee table you leave a scrambled Rubik's Cube.

Now your honeypot is activated. You as the boss will receive all sorts of data about your prospects by how they react and interact with this Rubik's cube.

Is there a solution to the Rubik's cube? Of course. But it's irrelevant. The placing of the Rubik's Cube on the coffee table was for an entirely different purpose.

You will quickly find out who thinks their smart, who's an asshole, who cooperates, how people work together, and all sorts of other information as you watch the prospects take the bait and try to unscramble the cube after a few drinks.

Now if you really want to have some fun you alter the color of one the squares on the Rubik's Cube making the puzzle unsolvable. Now you have a bunch of drunk smart "assholes" arguing about how to get it done and embarrassing themselves publicly.

Of course there will probably be a couple of prospects that don't take the bait. And those may the ones you want to consider for the job.

Is there a solution to the cube? Yes: Correct the altered square and then solve the cube. But it doesn't matter. The puzzle serves an entirely different purpose. And all those that played the game (took the bait) lost.

Aiwass set Crowley up by buttering him up with terms like "chosen one" and "prophet" and in turn Crowley unwittingly set up the rest of you fools (myself included) so that any asshole who has read a few Crowley books feels he needs to take a stab at the puzzle.

Is there a solution? Maybe. But it's irrelevant.

I suppose the "white noise" and disruption a bunch of drunk assholes arguing over a Rubik's Cube might provide a cover for something else if needed. Similar to having 1000 people think and stating publicly that they are the Reincarnation of AC.

(as stated by Israel Regardie that he received many many -perhaps hundreds- of letters from people during the 60's proclaiming to be the Reincarnation of AC. So much so that he considered writing a book called Liber Nuts about the topic. In addition there were no doubt hundreds more people who thought same but never wrote a letter to Regardie.)

What purpose does it serve to have 1000 people running around claiming to be AC? Or a forum full of "chosen ones" all competing for a prize?

Is this a practical joke? Does it serve some purpose? Is Aiwass torturing the Lashtal Webmaster (remember it is he that must read all these posts.) Or does it serve some other purpose?

I'm not entirely sure yet. But in my humble opinion, the joke is on Crowley first. Then the rest of us.

 

 

 


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12/04/2020 5:14 am  

Try and see it from Aiwass's point of view:

cipher

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12/04/2020 7:34 am  
Posted by: @herupakraath

The misuse of the phrase is remarkably common, which suggests it is a preconception born from within the ego of critics that fear the power the solution might bestow upon someone chosen for such a task.

Darling Tim Moss, you are the smart one aren't you? With this kind of insight into the motives of others, there is no doubt you are indeed the Solver of the Riddle. And also an interesting case of psychological transference.

Posted by: @herupakraath

To answer your question: Who gives a shit.

You do, obviously. The people on this forum do, obviously. I do, obviously.

And I do because I am specifically concerned with two things: the first, that Thelema is more than just another religion, but an actual system of magical evolution that will take mankind to the next step. I know this to be true, and I am always looking out for ways to prove it further. The second, is that as a Solver of the Riddle you are in company of a vast majority of others, some of which have proven already to be problematic: J.Daniel Gunther, Augustus Invictus, just to name two. So consider it a sort of "watchlist".

 

Posted by: @elitemachinery

Is there a solution? Maybe. But it's irrelevant.

I suppose the "white noise" and disruption a bunch of drunk assholes arguing over a Rubik's Cube might provide a cover for something else if needed. Similar to having 1000 people think and stating publicly that they are the Reincarnation of AC.

(as stated by Israel Regardie that he received many many -perhaps hundreds- of letters from people during the 60's proclaiming to be the Reincarnation of AC. So much so that he considered writing a book called Liber Nuts about the topic. In addition there were no doubt hundreds more people who thought same but never wrote a letter to Regardie.)

What purpose does it serve to have 1000 people running around claiming to be AC? Or a forum full of "chosen ones" all competing for a prize?

Is this a practical joke? Does it serve some purpose? Is Aiwass torturing the Lashtal Webmaster (remember it is he that must read all these posts.) Or does it serve some other purpose?

I'm not entirely sure yet. But in my humble opinion, the joke is on Crowley first. Then the rest of us.

Now this is the kind of articulated reply I was looking for: thank you.

As a side note, Liber Nuts does exist, and is updated to this day.


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12/04/2020 3:47 pm  
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You do, obviously. The people on this forum do, obviously. I do, obviously.

 

Riddles in AL don't interest me personally.      

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12/04/2020 7:50 pm  
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I'm not entirely sure yet. But in my humble opinion, the joke is on Crowley first. Then the rest of us.

Frater Micro.'., thank you for this extraordinary post of yours.


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12/04/2020 8:04 pm  
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Riddles in AL don't interest me personally.   

Then you, like myself, either have that Splendour to look forward to, or you (I) have left that "making sense out of no-sense" behind. After the plague of death passes, let's get together and study up on the QBL, so we can be ready for the next plague of riddles to solve ... probably next Spring.

 


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12/04/2020 8:06 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

So you solved the Riddle of AL, and you proved (ahem...) that you are the Chosen One of Thelema. [...]

Crowley certainly thought of his role as Prophet (ahem...) as one of shining Light onto the World: will you do the same? Are you re-establishing the Invisible College? Is there anything else to it than just proving that you are good with Gematria (ahem!!!)?

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Posted by: @azrael2393

You do, obviously. The people on this forum do, obviously. I do, obviously.

Riddles in AL don't interest me personally.   

I think azrael was referring here not so much to the first part of the topic ("solvers of the riddle") as the second: ("what are you [they] going to do with it") along with "Does this solution bring you [them] anything,to you [them] personally or to share with the rest of the world?"

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12/04/2020 9:25 pm  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

("what are you [they] going to do with it")

What'choo goin' to do?
What'choo goin' to do?
What'choo goin' to do,
when they come for you?

 


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13/04/2020 3:02 am  
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What'choo goin' to do?
What'choo goin' to do?
What'choo goin' to do,
when they come for you?

Courtesy of 101 KGB!

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13/04/2020 3:33 am  
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I don't think Crowley set this up. I'm suggesting that Aiwass set Crowley up.

Crowley had a big ego, so hearing words like 'Holy Chosen One' and "Prophet" were an important part of getting AC to participate.

If Aiwass is a higher part of AC's brain/consciousness, as a lot of posters here lately seem to have been suggesting that he is, does this mean he is in effect schizophrenically setting himself up?

Posted by: @serpent252

 

Posted by: @elitemachinery

Aiwass set Crowley up by buttering him up with terms like "chosen one" and "prophet" and in turn Crowley unwittingly set up the rest of you fools (myself included) so that any asshole who has read a few Crowley books feels he needs to take a stab at the puzzle.

Frater Micro.'., thank you for this extraordinary post of yours.

I agree - this is an extraordinary post, considering the fact that Frater Elite has made his own claims to have solved the 'puzzle' himself at some length.  Surely, as above, this is suggestive of a split-persona at least?

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I do find myself a tad bit ashamed that I too posted a solution in these forums. I'm finding myself more and more fond of the few remaining Lashtalians (reptillians?) that have yet to offer one .

Does this mean you now regret making the claim yourself, Michael Sean? And are therefore now withdrawing it?

(Incidentally please do not read any hostility into my remarks Mr Blow; I actually find reading your contributions on the whole a pleasurable sensation, and in particular your last one!)

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13/04/2020 3:44 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

If Aiwass is a higher part of AC's brain/consciousness, as a lot of posters here lately seem to have been suggesting that he is, does this mean he is in effect schizophrenically setting himself up?

Our higher self is always teaching us. "Do what thou wilt" is usually interpreted as "Do as you please" and then after a few bumps and bruises (if the person continues) it leads to finding the path of the True Will. Crowley had a vision and some good intentions but he also had an ego and a clear intention to win at the game he was playing.

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Does this mean you now regret making the claim yourself, Michael Sean? And are therefore now withdrawing it?

Not at all. I've just created a context whereas anyone who competes with me automatically loses. 😎 


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13/04/2020 6:21 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

If Aiwass is a higher part of AC's brain/consciousness, as a lot of posters here lately seem to have been suggesting that he is, does this mean he is in effect schizophrenically setting himself up?

No. There is this chicke-egg dilemma at play. Here is how I understand it.

It seems to the aspirant that his searching for truth has led him to the angel or the higher self ... but the first impulse for the aspirant to start searching is "activated" by an impulse from that higher self.

That is the rule as I understand it. Looking in the rear-view mirror, I remember being a dork until something zapped me. Hard. So I accept this rule, which is not the whole of the Law, but merely a subplane of How Things Work.

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I've just created a context whereas anyone who competes with me automatically loses.

Your Wu-wei exceeds your obscurity. I declare "No Contest!" The solution that remains hidden cannot be spun or dented.

 


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13/04/2020 8:28 am  
Posted by: @azrael2393

The second, is that as a Solver of the Riddle you are in company of a vast majority of others, some of which have proven already to be problematic: J.Daniel Gunther, Augustus Invictus, just to name two. So consider it a sort of "watchlist".

This is true. And the 'watchlist' is real. The path is full of pitfalls and anyone seeking to be considered the 'chosen one' of Thelema or a 'Holy Prophet' or 'magical heir' is more likely to end up burned at the stake, in jail, or dead.

It's a dubious distinction at best. Sort of like being labeled 'Sexiest Man Alive' only without the sexy part. Be careful what you wish for.

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The solution that remains hidden cannot be spun or dented.

I guess what i'm getting at is that the cipher cannot be approached head on. Anyone that attempts to do this is doomed to fail. At best they have a solution that makes sense but have lost the larger context (getting the job) and therefore fail.

The cipher in my view is one piece of a larger puzzle. Solved or unsolved it offers nothing in itself.

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The cipher, and any explanation, can only work in a larger context or puzzle. Alone it means nothing. If the aspirant can paint a picture using other pieces; an almost complete picture that purposely leaves the cipher piece out..

puzzle missing particles the last piece demarcation

..and this picture makes sense and paints a convincing portrait without the cipher piece, then the cipher piece will be the final confirmation direct from the 'Holy Book' that this is the correct explanation.

fitting the last puzzle piece 800

Without this final piece. The picture would be incomplete. By itself it offers nothing.

In this scenario, you must work a lot harder. It's not the short path. But i think it is the correct way to proceed.

 

 

 


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13/04/2020 10:53 am  

By the way if anyone likes prophecies, patterns and hidden codes then get over to the McKenna Timewave thread.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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Posted by: @dom

By the way if anyone likes prophecies, patterns and hidden codes then get over to the McKenna Timewave thread.

 


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13/04/2020 10:09 pm  
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Posted by: @dom

By the way if anyone likes prophecies, patterns and hidden codes then get over to the McKenna Timewave thread.

 

yep, that was probably one of the most desperate and pathetic posts ever made here, still I don't feel the need to jump over to that thread...


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13/04/2020 10:34 pm  
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yep, that was probably one of the most desperate and pathetic posts ever made here, still I don't feel the need to jump over to that thread...

Whoa, someone isn't handling isolation too well.     

@shiva

 let's get together and study up on the QBL, so we can be ready for the next plague of riddles to solve ... probably next Spring.

 

No problem, we can maybe catch a game of lower division soccer when you're over here too. 

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13/04/2020 10:41 pm  
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Whoa, someone isn't handling isolation too well.     

C'mon, trying to suck people over to one's own thread has a bit of a desperate and pathetic sound to it, hasn't it? No offense. The only thing you are right with is that I wouldn't be so much online without the isolation. Haven't felt compelled to check out McKenna so far, but maybe I will some time.


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