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04/04/2020 6:08 pm  
Posted by: @therealrtc

@the_real_simon_iff - "...will torn apart by me, or so I do hope."  With a nice Chianti?  Wow. That sounds a bit... fanatical! 😵

@therealrtc All in the spirit of friendly competetion and advice of course! Can't let have Crowley's ship sunk...

 


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04/04/2020 8:47 pm  
Posted by: @the_real_simon_iff

Can't let have Crowley's ship sunk...

Hilarious if it's Carrot_Childe's boat that is sunk, not Crowley's.


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04/04/2020 9:07 pm  
Posted by: @michael-staley

oat that is sunk, not Crowley's.

Venezuelan warship rams cruise ship in international waters that would not be arrested and impounded, and said warship sinks. (The cruise ship was reinforced against ice (and, apparently, warships). See yesterday's BBC, if you haven't already heard this one.

 


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04/04/2020 9:35 pm  

@michael-staley - "Hilarious if it's Carrot_Childe's boat that is sunk, not Crowley's."

- Michael, move away from the carrot! You are now more Manio than man... 

THE REAL CARROT CHILDE1

  


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04/04/2020 10:02 pm  
Posted by: @tiger

So is I on, or O on or is O off and I off ?

AM I ON? NO I AM! IO MAN‽ IN A MO! I AM ON? IO MAN‽ I AM ON!

We hold the Earth fro Hell away. 🌹


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04/04/2020 11:17 pm  
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Posted by: @kidneyhawk

I'm still hoping Faustian might yet emerge to comment further re: the Mars Face.

He also left this little clue: "מקור ההר", a quick Google Translate gives "the source of the mountain".

Olympus Mons? 🤔

I feel like I am destined to never complete a crossword puzzle.

I'm been pondering this cryptic comment and it seems to relate to remarks made in another thread rolling at the present moment:

Posted by: @jamiejbarter

So do you think it (the whole universe) therefore subscribes to the "Anthropic Principle"?

SHIVA: It must, because it's an invention of the human mind.

Ergo, the Source of the Mountain is the Human Mind with its tendency toward pareidolia.

And I can appreciate the insight here with reference to curious craters (I know, it's more of a "humanoid hill") but two questions remain:

1) How does the Mars face/Cydonia etc relate to the Book of the Law

and

2) How is pareidolia related to the Book of the Law

I would answer number 2 with Crowley's own words that everyone must interpret the book for themselves. But I have a feeling that, in the game of Hot and Cold, I will likely have dropped off the map (or line grid) in terms of Faustian's meaning.

Still feeling that I will never complete a crossword puzzle.  


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04/04/2020 11:56 pm  

@dom 

No not necessarily but consider that perhaps 'five eyes Zeus' have essentially trapped 'Gaia' and 'Kali' in a trademarked smart phone shrine voodoo box with which to justify the ongoing 'arson', for they have chained Promethe'us' enslaved to regrow livers daily to be fed to the vultures of finance... 


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05/04/2020 12:05 am  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

No not necessarily but consider that perhaps 'five eyes Zeus' have essentially trapped 'Gaia' and 'Kali' in a trademarked smart phone shrine voodoo box with which to justify the ongoing 'arson', for they have chained Promethe'us' enslaved to regrow livers daily to be fed to the vultures of finance... 

Where are you at? When can you get to my house? i definitely need some of that.


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05/04/2020 12:13 am  
Are you saying that the COVID-virus is a weapon-tool of GAIA in Her Kali aspect as it were?
 
 
 
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum
 

@dom 

No not necessarily but consider that perhaps 'five eyes Zeus' have essentially trapped 'Gaia' and 'Kali' in a trademarked smart phone shrine voodoo box with which to justify the ongoing 'arson', for they have chained Promethe'us' enslaved to regrow livers daily to be fed to the vultures of finance... 

The Gaia hypothesis is more scientific than mythic realities ie I'm not talking in metaphors but from the fact that  Gaia as a living organism applies severity to survive.     You initially  mentioned Malthus which is very relevant to his present virus-war situation. 


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05/04/2020 1:35 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Suffering cats and good golly Moses, what an epic post! I actually read the whole thing and am... there are no words.

Please share your drugs immediately

Much appreciated!...And certainly glad to share, but remember, set and setting!

Thanks


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05/04/2020 2:47 am  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

set and setting!

Set: 418 pranayamas.

Setting: New York.

New York?

 


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05/04/2020 1:41 pm  

@shiva

Om Namah Shiva!

Jai Ma Kali Ma Durga Ma

Yes next time I am in the City then most certainly and at the Roerich as it has been a while!

I like the neighborhoods of St. John the Divine but why wouldn't I my parents met there

but I was a virgin spark when it comes to Manhattan

 cycles of  they years becomes a Pranayam

that has so nestled certain plateaus of experiences 

be it the Lela of ones humors

level of pilgrimages that do resonate with certain

geologic formations swarmed one does find 

breath like pointing out while down in China Town the circular rainbow

two days before Katrina 

and I slept in my car up on the riverside nests and the City was in midst 

and an escape from New York was punctuated by getting our and pulling a fallen

another guy we pulled it out of the road, sunday not crowded, but he was fleeing 

the storm too I can not imagine but went through Grand Central 

just as the pandemic would flare into the papers....

 

It was for papers that I used to wander from Penn Station down 

to Herman Slater's but that is another story I need some coffee and 

get closer to a real fire...

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05/04/2020 4:10 pm  

@hadgigegenraum
have some more coffee
and tell us of Chelsea and Henry then.

And the matter with all
that haven’t figured it out ?
When Its right there in front of you,
plain as day
on a stick
and there
you still are.


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05/04/2020 4:26 pm  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

Herman Slater's

If you mean the Magickal Child shop in Manhattan, the people most likely to be behind the counter (besides Herman) were the two creepy heroin-addicted hippies depicted on a fire escape in a recent post. They both also worked at Weiser's at various times.

The earlier Brooklyn Heights version, the Warlock Shop, was just Herman (and his boyfriend Ed very early on). It would have been quite a wander from Penn Station. My friend Sam used to make dildo candles for them as an after-school job in high school.


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05/04/2020 5:21 pm  

 Greetings to all

@kidneyhawk wrote that he feels he is destined to never complete a Xword puzzle. I know how he feels!

In II:76, the x seems too small, in relation to the other letters, to be regarded as a letter itself.

Rather, it appears to indicate a multiplication sign.

So, if x=times, 63x gives 666.

LISTEN to the numbers and the words...

2=to

4=for

284=to wait for

B=be

R=are

which could give

BST 666 TO WAIT FOR 93.

GO KAYRO.

R TO WAIT FOR L.

v. L FOR A MAP.

Sounds like an urgent telegram for someone!


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05/04/2020 6:09 pm  

@hogaire - "which could give" - It could, it could.  If only we could tempt @faustian back... If only.  Or, you could grab a copy of my solution book.  It's the perfect antidote to self-isolation - You may plotz...

@shiva - Why the 'r'?  Because, everything is better with a bit of sun in it. Mmmmmm. 😎


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05/04/2020 6:42 pm  
Posted by: @therealrtc

you could grab a copy of my solution book.

"Grab" makes it sound so rapid- when will these Lulus print, and mail, my damn book? Can you have a word, please?


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05/04/2020 6:46 pm  

@ignant666 - Just be ****** grateful I didn't use the same printer as, well, you know who (even if nobody knows when, or if)...   🙂


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05/04/2020 7:03 pm  

No idea what that means, or who "you know who" with this slow printer is? And was just joshin' ya anyway, i'm sure it will arrive in my literary forensic abattoir soon enough.

I do know of some folks with some decades long copy-editing issues- perhaps they're who you meant?

Indeed, you are veritable incarnation of Mercury compared to some (at least with this book- how are those Bogus appendices coming along)?. But hardly a competitive standard- kind of a "tallest midget in the league" sort of honor.

 


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05/04/2020 7:51 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

The earlier Brooklyn Heights version, the Warlock Shop, was just Herman (and his boyfriend Ed very early on). It would have been quite a wander from Penn Station. My friend Sam used to make dildo candles for them as an after-school job in high school.

There has to be cable mini-series in there somewhere.

 


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05/04/2020 8:01 pm  
Posted by: @herupakraath

There has to be cable mini-series in there somewhere.

Starring Steve Buscemi as ignant.


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05/04/2020 8:28 pm  

A great actor, and a great NYer, but i am much more handsomer.

The actors to whom i have most often been compared are Crispin Glover in River's Edge, and Robert DeNiro in Taxi Driver.

But of course we need the 1970s teenage version of me, long-haired, motorcycle-booted and Hawaiian-shirted, acid-eating, always armed, with two beautiful hippie girlfriends, and more Crowley books than i own now.

Utterly feral, out of control, and of course dangerously smart, even back then. But i had a great deal to learn, and zero willingness to listen to anyone else. Haven't changed much, i suppose.

I often think back on what i was like as a teenager and think "My poor parents!" The drugs, the guns, the constant explosions, the politics, the going to Afghanistan at 19- oy gevalt!


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05/04/2020 8:52 pm  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

get closer to a real fire.

Real fire, like 5G, activates the virus and causes it to spread.

Posted by: @hogaire

@kidneyhawk wrote that he feels he is destined to never complete a Xword puzzle. I know how he feels!

Solve the first half of the puzzle. Just abandon the finishing up of any projects. Leave them "unattacked" and they will not turn on you ... like your home might.

Posted by: @therealrtc

Why the 'r'?  Because, everything is better with a bit of sun in it.

Right. And warmer temps are expected to (hopefully) slow the flow.

Posted by: @ignant666

Can you have a word, please?

Words with Lulu usually go okay ... if you're reporting a damage or error: they ship you a new one. No problems there.

But Lulu is just a Borg brain - it sends orders out to actual print shops all over the terrain. I suspect any attempts at micromanagement of the printing, binding, packing, shipping routine is similar to an attempt at getting the one true God to reveal himself on CNN before the world ends ... April 10, by the way.

While I am sort of On the Top of the Topic, it has been my own fortune to (sometimes ... some years) experience profound magical and/or mystical manifestations and insights. I do not directly attribute this to the supposed, so-called, and maligned Three Days in an al-Qāhirah Hotel, but I could have been subconsciously brainwashed by the Antichrist.

Posted by: @ignant666

how are those Bogus appendices coming along)?

Stop reminding the man! He is trying to save the world for (from?) us, and he needn't be pestered about such things as "lack of credible foundation and history"). I have an idea. Surely the angels must have come and touched my noggin.

You know how there's a division hither homeward in Thelema? There are (1) The Class D Libers and straight instruction manuals, and (2) Crowley philosophy, novels, and social interaction.

(repeat with modifications) ...

You know how there's a division hither homeward in Coleism? There are (1) The Books and straight evidence of facts, which can be quite interesting, and (2) Cole philosophy, suppositions, and marketing style.

The Angel sez: "Tell me the difference between these two, and then atone for any sins perceived." That's what she said.

 


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05/04/2020 10:38 pm  

@hadgigegenraum

Dwtw,

Thank you for purchasing, I hope the Book is useful in your Work.

I will spend the 3 dollars so earned on ice cream, as always instructed by my grandmother.

As for hardcover, Lulu allows that option but it's rather pricey. I bought one myself, for annotation purposes.

Perhaps with some revision, and a change of the multiple colored graphics to a halftone format, I might yet convince a publisher to reproduce said Book at a reasonable price.

To stay on topic, solution to Cipher and grid page, as well as much of the rest of AL, included at no extra charge.

Litlluw

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05/04/2020 11:19 pm  

@ignant666

My dear sir,

 

I was actually thinking about Olde Time, New Yorke today.

 

In the Nineteen-Seventies it must have been quite the world. 

 

I was hearing that song by Lou Reed about transvestites and sucking . I belay it was  Take A Walk on the Wild Side.

I have been in city jungles myself in Korea, Japan, New York, Denver, San Fran, etc and yes-  NYC in 70s must have been crazy. 

I kind of envy the experience.  kind of. 

Thats all.

 


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05/04/2020 11:30 pm  

NYC was a far better place when a young man could go walking deserted streets dosed on a few hundred mikes with a Marine combat knife strapped to his belt, confident that, as long as he did not actually kill anyone and stick around, the cops didn't care about anything, and that anyone without cars and radios was handle-able.

Perhaps all these COVIDs and Horus Toys and what-not are taking us back to those Bad Old Days, but something has changed. Kids these days are just so damn nice- we were horrible, violent, and mean. My son has been in no more than three fights by age 17- i was usually in three fights by lunch at his age.


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06/04/2020 12:48 am  

@ignant666

 

Thats true.

 

I am not sure if its good or bad.

 

I am only 37 but I am the last adage of the old garde. 

I banged some heads into troughs to make blood in my childhood. 

Then I realised of the use of humour and talk.

Thats more powerful.

But I am not sure what these kids are doing these days.

You tell me. 

I say keep the balance.

 


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06/04/2020 3:02 am  

The Mountain of Sourcelets


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06/04/2020 3:07 am  

"the floor of that palace is of silver and gold" - to be taken literally


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06/04/2020 12:14 pm  

@faustian - Your new carpet sounds positively divine, but I'd avoid sniffin' too much of the glue... 🤑

 


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06/04/2020 3:34 pm  

When it smells of almonds, avoid the sniffing altogether...


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06/04/2020 3:46 pm  

@faustian

OK, I think I have some idea where you are going with this. "Four gates to one palace"?


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06/04/2020 4:26 pm  

93,

my Lulu copy has just been delivered. Will delve into it tonight and check out the differences to the early proof and hopefully can sit down tomorrow for my little review - and in spite what Kyle suggested, mine will be astonishingly short.

Love=Law

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06/04/2020 6:16 pm  

@the_real_simon_iff - I did feel a disturbance in The Force earlier this afternoon... and is it "OMG?" 😎  


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06/04/2020 10:02 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

Herman Slater's

If you mean the Magickal Child shop in Manhattan, the people most likely to be behind the counter (besides Herman) were the two creepy heroin-addicted hippies depicted on a fire escape in a recent post. They both also worked at Weiser's at various times.

The earlier Brooklyn Heights version, the Warlock Shop, was just Herman (and his boyfriend Ed very early on). It would have been quite a wander from Penn Station. My friend Sam used to make dildo candles for them as an after-school job in high school.

The one in Manhattan... the one with dirty yellow banner with the cloven footed logo  that did provide enough visual umph to identify the place from the corner, but that flag certainly when viewed up closer was a foul harbinger of what lay within...basically all one could wish for from sordid New York, a trashy dark claustrophobia where wicca tackiness dominated the shop as book shelves were more of an afterthought, though thought did not seem to hover much above the feeling that convincing one that indeed the occult was not far from being just a pile of mildewed paper in a dirty dark basement, dominated by the Crowley 'Egg Head" painting which seemed to capture a certain nauseating presence amongst the grime...

Hopefully someone is happy I did not purchase the copy of AMARITA that I will think of now and again, viewed one morning when the front door was open, in spring and actually some natural light came in to provide a disinfecting sense for a moment....though I doubt it, natural light, ever made it to the private chambers to the side... (I later heard that Gnostic Masses were held there)... that seemed to be of some significance to those around the register area which was another shrine to entropy, feeding an ectoplasmic atmosphere for human slugs to inhabit with conversational vapidity that seemed to drone any of the few times I made the visit...which I am glad I did, but I can not remember one significant book I bought, other than AMIRITA, but one bizarre paper tract comes to mind by a Geoffrey Basil Smith, if I recall, on some history lecture on occultism that then spun into an X OTO claim via a Gerald Gardener Charter from AC into some sort of admixture via Alice Bailey into some novel spheres but perhaps as legitimate a claimant as others....

Who knows but that little closet was NYC shrine to AC back in the Eighties...'abased' is perhaps the proper word to so describe....why the "AC Egg Head Painting Poster" might well have been in the window looking out...

Onward

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06/04/2020 11:58 pm  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

I did not purchase the copy of AMARITA

Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

I can not remember one significant book I bought, other than AMIRITA

Interesting, HG: On the one hand you didn't buy a book called AMARITA but on the other, did buy a significant one called AMIRITA - interesting, because of the additional fact that the genuine article & real McCoy (assuming you mean the book published by Martin Starr, that is) was in actual fact spelled AMRITA, but which you didn't appear to have encountered there at all!(?)

As you aver, a very unusual bookshop to run across...

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07/04/2020 12:10 am  

It was that, believe me. The smell is always what i remember most, a combination of patchouli, hippie body odor, herbs, spices, every known incense, reefer, and some kind of mildew/old book smell.

The shop had an indescribably sleazy aura that @hadgigegenraum has captured very well. If Herman was working, and you were a good-looking young man, he would invite you to coven meetings and things, and offer to do your cards. If the fire-escape boys were working, and you were a good-looking young woman, ditto, except parties and Gnostic Masses.

The second-best selection of occult books in NYC- Weiser four blocks east was always better. i still have quite a few books bought at Warlock Shop/Magickal Child, and a t-shirt with the Church Of Satan goat-head in an inverted pentagram logo.


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07/04/2020 1:48 am  
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

that little closet was NYC shrine to AC back in the Eighties

Your adventure story about Passing Through the Tuat is quite good.

A-basement in the eighties. What a great film it will be.

 


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07/04/2020 5:15 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter
Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

I did not purchase the copy of AMARITA

Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

I can not remember one significant book I bought, other than AMIRITA

Interesting, HG: On the one hand you didn't buy a book called AMARITA but on the other, did buy a significant one called AMIRITA - interesting, because of the additional fact that the genuine article & real McCoy (assuming you mean the book published by Martin Starr, that is) was in actual fact spelled AMRITA, but which you didn't appear to have encountered there at all!(?)

As you aver, a very unusual bookshop to run across...

ZJoy

Good catch! The world if but for a proofreader.....

Well three spellings and yes AMRITA is correct and I am given a nice laugh from how you have pointed out a strange mystery around a word no less...Yes I do regret in a certain way not having purchased Martin Starr's AMRITA, of Essays in Magical Rejuvenation by Aleister Crowley at the Childe back in 1990. It was clean impressive fine production, purple cloth with an inlay I recall in gold the letter, yod, within the star of six with Roman numeral I and X which could be read the other way which is part of the play that generates energy, for life for healing, for variation, flashing colors or letters, where of course there can always be mutations in the transcriptions, which might be one of the tricks of the magician to lay that which might mutate upon....getting back to the thread, I think RTC's bet is based upon mutations of script... Crowley requires that attention to detail, lest all is lost, good catch...And what ever happened to those bets?

AMRIJOYTA  !

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HG

 

 


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07/04/2020 9:48 am  

@wizardiaoan

Any news on your "prelude"?


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07/04/2020 5:24 pm  

I am happy to say I was able to meet my self-imposed deadline on my birthday today of 4/7 and release the first draft of Part I of my book offering solutions to the major ciphers of the Book of Law.This is the not a prelude but rather Part I of my book: everything is explained in the introduction and first chapter.

I thank @hadgigegenraum for prodding me to begin writing this on 3/22, which I worked full time on up to today, being laid off due to the Corona virus. Enjoy everyone! You can download it in the new thread I created for it:

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/thelema/wizardiaoans-book-certainty-not-faith-the-book-of-law-proven-true/#post-106377

 


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08/04/2020 3:11 am  

@wizardiaoan

Happy Birthday! & Congratulations on getting your work out....Thanks!

I am glad that my 'prodding' has been appreciated.  Helping to nudge this considerable work with its own  magnetism and gravity field into a public orbit is an honor, for obviously this is a record of many years of dedicated work, punctuated by gleanings that have kept the fount flowing for you, that however it may be received by others, under no uncertain terms- you have worked and can not be deemed a professional soldier who has not fought!

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09/04/2020 9:23 pm  

It might be said that, in II:76, all (numerical) roads lead to 24

4x6=24, 3x8=24

But why 24 and 89?

The 24th Prime Number is 89.

89 is the atomic number of the chemical element Actinium, symbol...

Ac...

Could it be that the author of II:76 deliberately used these numbers to conceal and, eventually, reveal the initials of the scribe?


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10/04/2020 12:10 am  
Posted by: @hogaire

Could it be (...) ?

It could be.


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10/04/2020 1:05 am  
Posted by: @hogaire

It might be said that, in II:76, all (numerical) roads lead to 24

Another one:

Product of digits = 4*6*3*8*2*4*3*2*4*8*9 = 7962624, 5th power of 24 (24^5)


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10/04/2020 4:54 am  

Posted by: @hogaire

It might be said that, in II:76, all (numerical) roads lead to 24

4x6=24, 3x8=24

But why 24 and 89?

The 24th Prime Number is 89.

89 is the atomic number of the chemical element Actinium, symbol...

Ac...

Could it be that the author of II:76 deliberately used these numbers to conceal and, eventually, reveal the initials of the scribe?

Atomic number 24?

 

Chromium

Cr


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12/04/2020 5:07 pm  

I don't know if this thread is still going to continue now that RTC's book has a review thread. I vote that this thread should still have purpose as a place for ongoing discussion of the Cipher and a place to post "nuggets" of related info. I'll post this one though its fairly obvious and has probably been discussed before:

89 - 24 = 65

It may not be amazing but in this way the Cipher "encoded" the page number amount of Liber AL before the last page was written.


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