↑We can always fall back on the idea that the transmission takes on part of the character of the receiver, but that too is a little paradoxical; it fails to explain some of the oddities like the word 'abstruction'
Oh, this one just fell into my lap (while teaching Medical terminology, which is 80% Greek-based. "Abstruct" means to move away. It's not used much, but it has to do with moving an arm or leg away from the midline. So the line might be read as ...
Get the Stele. I will make easy the moving away of it from the mixed-up museum in the victorious (El-Kahira "the victorious") city." Gee, that almost could be mistaken for the Cairo Museum.
I often wondered why he never followed out these orders? He said that he had it copied (painted), but not stolen.
Do gods tell prophets to steal things?
Anyway, I believe we had that copy at Solar Lodge.
(For those under 65, There was a cartoon called "Quick Draw McGraw"
I am well over 65, the age of Spring Chickens. Q.D. came after my early cartoon phase.
They're still available online, you know.
No, I didn't know, but I never knew in the first place.
Okay, so the Perdurabo presentation of god-names has been shown to be legitimate in terms of spelling - with only slight modifications. And that list of names, given above in the spelling we know, or very close, was the name Mentu. But, yeah, he didn't get drafted for the Thelemic pantheon.
Oh, this one just fell into my lap (while teaching Medical terminology, which is 80% Greek-based. "Abstruct" means to move away. It's not used much, but it has to do with moving an arm or leg away from the midline. So the line might be read as ...
I am not challenging your statement about the word "abstruction" which you say, If I understand you, has its roots in the Greek Language. Okay, so I put it to the test, and the Greek phrase for "to move away is 'NA APOMAKYNTHEI' and in Latin is, EXIRE. Neither of which sound remotely like "Abstruct". Which I think would have at least been a root-word. There is no dictionary definition of it. Even Mr. Crowley was perplexed when he wrote:" We had arranged for the 'abstruction' of the Stele of Revealing. I did NOT understand the word or the context..." The Confessions, ed. Symonds. Chapter 50, Page 408, Paragraph 2. So, he decides to have a copy of it made.
The correct anatomical term is abduction.
Yes it is. Except it's a physiological or kinesiological. My anal-isis is based on parts of the word. ad- means "toward."
ab- means "away from."
Regardless of any other considerations, spellings, or interpretations, Ra-Hoor told Perdurabp to snitch ("away from") the Stele.
the Greek phrase for "to move away is 'NA APOMAKYNTHEI'
You are a non-physician woirking backwards. The puzzle involves taking the word (abstruction) and seeing what it means, not setting up the desired result (in English). Ab- is the prefix for away from, and in this case it means steal.
steal
Maybe not. Maybe it just means to set the Stele apart from other Steles.
Oh, this one just fell into my lap (while teaching Medical terminology, which is 80% Greek-based. "Abstruct" means to move away. It's not used much, but it has to do with moving an arm or leg away from the midline. So the line might be read as ...
But you were the one who offered the English language translation from the Greek as "Set apart". Anyway, not even Crowley knew what it meant, so he just a copy made by a museum staffer.
Maybe not. Maybe it just means to set the Stele apart from other Steles.
The instructions do not say, "Set the Stele ..."
They say, "Get the stele ..."
But you were the one who offered the English language translation from the Greek as "Set apart".
I dunno what I said or translated. I may have not been clear. I do not remember, ever in this lifetime or the past three, ever using "Set apart," in relation to this topic of stealing or setting. You may file a copy of said alleged "quoted" definition, right here, and I will either be embarrassed and consider suicide, or I will make an irrefutable excuse.
But clearly, the prefix ab- means "away from", as in abduct; yes, one takes away a child from its parents or guardians.
Eith Aiwass or Ra=Hoor, maybe Perdurabo, was smart enough to avoid words like steal, purloin, liberate, or snitch.
not even Crowley knew what it meant
Unlikely. He may deny gnosis in some written excuse, but a child can read that instruction and figure out what is implied.
I dunno what I said or translated. I may have not been clear. I do not remember, ever in this lifetime or the past three, ever using "Set apart," in relation to this topic of stealing or setting. You may file a copy of said alleged "quoted" definition, right here, and I will either be embarrassed and consider suicide, or I will make an irrefutable excuse.
I concede. You wrote "move away". How I got "set apart I don't know. It's like the old parlor game of whispering a word into the ear of another, and after passing through several people, the end result usually doesn't match the original. Anyway, Crowley disobeyed the injunction.
@hadgigegenraum I appreciate your vote of confidence! Shiva seems convinced of his definition, and yet there is no such word as "abstruction" in any dictionary. Even Crowley had no idea of what it meant. To "set aside" certainly does not mean "To steal" Not even the great Aleister Crowley would risk a visit to an Egyptian jail (Though probably run by the British at the time) for stealing a museum artifact. Any who, we have a nice copy of the Stele thanks to Crowley having buddies at the Cairo Muesum. I have no doubt that the new Grand Muesum of Egyptology knowing a good thing when they see it, will probably make a big deal about Aleister Crowley and his "Stele of Revealing" since Crowley is now more or less mainstream. It would be a great tourist draw to feature it in some special exhibition. "Thar's gold in them thar hills!"
Yes gold there is!
I concede.
Oh, good. I won't need to consider suicide today. But you might want to try it - instead of arguing details when the bottom-line involves the "reclaiming" of one's funerary billboard.
But he didn't. As a matter of written and recorded fact, he didn't follow orders ("guidance") well at all. He made a big point ...
"One of the (surprisingly few) order
I have been given includes
Trust not a stanger, fail not of an heir."
[parafrazed]
Well, in The Frater Shiva Book of Thelemic History he blew this one pretty bad. He named a successor (the mortician of the OTO, Fr Saturnus), but failed of a [magical] heir. Do not confuse this break in continuity with the arising of "The MagiCole Hair," who forgets to take his Rxs, or with other folks who got handed a paper without doing any work or taking any tests, or doing anything other than being there at the moment of giveaway vulnerability.
It seems to me like Crowley was eventually huddled up in Hastings, keeping the current going by giving out IX degrees. No fees. No dues. No Oaths.
How I got "set apart I don't know.
Medically, we call it schizophrenia. Some of us work very hard to purposely create that condition, invoking gods, talking (or at least listening) to Angels, and conjuring up spirits (to bring gold).
Recalibration of your internal fact-checker might be advised.
It's like the old parlor game
No. That parlor game involves a circle of several adepts, cronies, or people off the streets, while your situation involves one person. Now we must consider the dilemma of multiple personalities who whisper to each other. Where will it end?
Not even the great Aleister Crowley would risk a visit to an Egyptian jail (Though probably run by the British at the time)
"I will make easy for you the abstruction ("take away") from the ill-ordered (confusion) house ... etc.
Perhaps this was BS (wishful thinking), or a glitch in the transmission. Also, AC was rich - he could have bribed an official or paid a snitcher. But he didn't. He didn't follow orders well at all.
[There then follows a series of unintelligible rambling about gold]
But where is Montu?
other folks who got handed a paper without doing any work or taking any tests, or doing anything other than being there at the moment of giveaway vulnerability.
Something that really bothers me. Attainment requires Work.
conjuring up spirits (to bring gold).
I've never tried this. I think of the idea of "treasures" being found is kind of subjective. Anything can be a treasure to the right person.
But where is Montu?
I do think Threefold is on to something here. I just want to figure out which version of the Montu cult existed at the time, which would indicate if any other deities may have been part of it.
I do think Threefold is on to something here.
Well, yes, he is. I don't know if the answer is significant in relation to Liberation from the Wheel of Rebirthing, but it has merits in potentially clearing up some Egyptology.
Of course, clearing up may include revealing flaws or inconsistencies, even thefts, that may tend to undermine AL, The Aeon of Horus, and the reputation of Aleister, himself. Such is life. I will mumble a secret: Everything is subject to eventual decay and demise, because everything is an illusion that ages, and with age, the cracks and flaws begin to show.
Crack of Ages,
left for me.
I cannot get away
from Thee.
Well, yes, he is. I don't know if the answer is significant in relation to Liberation from the Wheel of Rebirthing, but it has merits in potentially clearing up some Egyptology.
Of course, clearing up may include revealing flaws or inconsistencies, even thefts, that may tend to undermine AL, The Aeon of Horus, and the reputation of Aleister, himself.
I'm a firm believer that knowledge of something can lead to deeper understanding, and therefore a deeper connection.
We know Crowley's knowledge wasn't always perfect, and the Aeon is still unfolding, so we can deepen our own understanding and align ourselves with and work with the current(s?) better.
Such is life. I will mumble a secret: Everything is subject to eventual decay and demise, because everything is an illusion that ages, and with age, the cracks and flaws begin to show.
That's a "Secret"? 😉
... there is no such word as "abstruction" in any dictionary. Even Crowley had no idea of what it meant.
Dwtw
It's a highly interesting word Abstruction. The prefix ab- means to 'off, away from', but the root 'struct' means to pile up, build, or to arrange and set in order. It could be 'construed' (to make a pun) to mean 'set it up away from the museum'. That could only be accomplished by putting it in another location, no matter how it was acquired. So beg, borrow or steal it, Mr. Crowley.
And yet, Abstruction is not actually an accepted English word. AC noted that when oddities like this pop up in the Book, it's the sign of an arcanum. And the word Abstruction has a gematria of 133 in the TQ. This happens to be one of the two most important numbers in the Aeon of MA.
133 is the sum of the seven trigrams assigned to the seven planets of antiquity. The antigram of 133 is 230, and their differential (which is shared by no other antigram pairs from 1 to infinity) happens to be 97, which is the gematria of the name Amun in Hebrew. As it happens, another neologism in English shares this important number; the word Thelemites = 97, and this matches the letters of their Three Grades: Yod-Zain-Peh.
The equivalent verse from Liber MA is: "I will give lessons to you for construction of the well-ordered star of the Victorious Station".
Here we contrast abstruction with construction. And what are we constructing? A 'well-ordered' star. The term 'well-ordered' = 133. And the star it refers to is the septagram formed from the arranging (i.e. setting in order) of those seven planets whose trigrams equal 133. And where does this happen? At the 'Victorious Station', i.e., the sphere called Victory, aka Netzach, which is number 7 on the Tree. Victory sounds like the kind of place a war-god would hang out.
Speaking of Mentu, or Montu or Month, where is he located in the Book? There are a few words containing 'ment', like comment and argument, but only one word contains Mont or Month, in this phrase:
The best blood is of the moon, monthly:
The first level of understanding is that this refer to menstrual blood. But on the higher levels of comprehension of the Law, it might also refer obliquely to Month, since 'monthly' means 'having the qualities or nature of Month'. And since Month had his place as adopted son of Amun taken by Khonsu, god of the moon, he might just want to draw a little blood for his vengeance.
What is also curious is that the phrase containing 'monthly' has a gematria of 359, which is one half of 718, the number of the Stele.
Litllwtw
O.L.
That's a "Secret"?
Well, yes. You see, many younger people, and some older folks, are immune to direct experience of their mortality. Time, of course, will correct their illusion of immortality. So, from time to time, I bring this morbid subject up.
It takes a true brush with death to reorient one's perspective, and often, folks aren't happy about it.
So beg, borrow or steal it, Mr. Crowley.
And after that, lock it in glass. Frat Aquarius told us the paint contained ground-up gems - to allow sparkling life to be radiated. I have no way to confirm or dent this clam.
And after that, lock it in glass. Frat Aquarius told us the paint contained ground-up gems - to allow sparkling life to be radiated. I have no way to confirm or dent this clam.
I am sure you meant to write "claim" not "clam" I would call that a Freudian-Thelemic slip. The clam or shell is an attribute of the Qlipoth, the evil emanation of the Kabbala (Or Qabalah) according to the modern Jewish mystic Isaac Luria. Consciously or unconsciously, you have opened the portals to Choronzon.
the modern Jewish mystic Isaac Luria
For values of "modern" that include dying 450 years ago, in 1572.
the modern Jewish mystic Isaac Luria
For values of "modern" that include dying 450 years ago, in 1572.
Interesting point. Given the vast expanse of time since the founding of the Abrahamic religion, the late Middle Ages would be "modern" I am sure you are well aware that the Hebrew Calender differs from the Gregorian. When I was in Egypt, I saw a Roman Column standing alone in the desert. Compared to the Pyramid of Djoser, it was a "modern" structure. What a marvelous concrete expression of a vast passage of time and history it was.
What is also curious is that the phrase containing 'monthly' has a gematria of 359, which is one half of 718, the number of the Stele.
Would the Sothic Cycle have anything to do with this? Our perhaps the Lunar calender?
I am sure you meant to write "claim"
If you are sure, then why mention it ? ... except to play the Spelling Nazi. I have already confessed, multiple over-times, to not proofing properly. In fact, I did proof that particular post, and I did not see the clam. So, obviously, there is something wrong with me. This is why my books, when completed, go to my wife ... who can spot a mis-spelled word on a computer screen from 6 feet away.
Yes, thank you, I claim to have meant to write claim.
I would call that a Freudian-Thelemic slip.
You are not allowed to practice psychology without a license. Since I do not believe in Freud, you may consume excrement and terminate.
While you are doing that, please continue to run on about just about anything except the mainstream topic. Montu had gotten to sparkling gems ...
The clam or shell is an attribute of the Qlipoth, the evil emanation of the Kabbala
You now have earned one [1] "WTF?" for this morning's deviation. Please resort to dharana for assistance.
Consciously or unconsciously, you have opened the portals to Choronzon.
And you are a lunatic. The moon must be getting full today.
Please revert to the topic.
Please revert to the topic.
The topic is all dried up. Just like you I might add.
The topic is all dried up.
Hardly. Intelligent posts are still being made, in contrast to deviating drivel.
Just like you I might add.
Off-topic aggressions will get you woodsheded, othoused, or hammered.
Good grief and the ten anxieties. This is not some social media trip where you get to show your private idiosynchros, endlessly, often in error, all in a verbal; (written) display that attempts to cover up the fact that you have [self-confessed] have not done the work.
The topic is all dried up.
Hardly. Intelligent posts are still being made, in contrast to deviating drivel.
Just like you I might add.
Off-topic aggressions will get you woodsheded, othoused, or hammered.
Good grief and the ten anxieties. This is not some social media trip where you get to show your private idiosynchros, endlessly, often in error, all in a verbal; (written) display that attempts to cover up the fact that you have [self-confessed] have not done the work.
Okay, I got the message. I will as you say, eat excrement and terminate. (Sound advice).
I will as you say
Please don't. No need to get messy.
Look, I just checked out what I knew, and I haven't seen the fact that Mentu is in the book ... Not in the AL text, but in the inserted stele translation ...
"I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;"
Maybe I missed that part where we acknowledge the text as "channeled," but the stele song is merely an appendage, which I believe AC indicated was the case.
I found both books on internet archive, Maspero and McCauley. I look forward to reading them. Thanks
YW
And after that, lock it in glass. Frat Aquarius told us the paint contained ground-up gems - to allow sparkling life to be radiated. I have no way to confirm or dent this clam.
Was the copy the Solar Lodge had finished in clear varnish? That would be one way of locking it in glass.
When TBOTL was dictated, the copy of the stele had likely already been made. In that case there were two stela, the original and the copy. I suspect the Stele of Revealing is the name given to the copy by Ra-Hoor-Khuit.
And after that, lock it in glass. Frat Aquarius told us the paint contained ground-up gems - to allow sparkling life to be radiated. I have no way to confirm or dent this clam.
There ia a pretty good article about Ancient Egyptian artists and the pigments they used from the Royal Society of Chemistry that affirms that minerals were powered and mixed with binding agents, (It is still not known what the recipe was) A method called "true fresco was NOT used, the plaster was dry before applying paint. Then dried, and then varnished. So yes, it is possible that Stele of Reveling had precious minerals in the paint.
Was the copy the Solar Lodge had finished in clear varnish? That would be one way of locking it in glass.
It was about 20" high, a foot wide, and an inch thick. It was just painted wood. Some paint discolorations match the pic in The Equinox of the Gods, and it had obviously been "touched up" in one place. I never caught any hint of varnish.
My point revolved around the idea that further instructions were involved. Get the Stele (itself) - Lock it in glass.
We never locked it. We were not even sure of what it was. We decided it was either the original, which AC stole, or his copy. This was solved when LAShTAL informed me/us that the original was wood, yeah, but it then had a plaster goop spread over the wood to accept the paint.
So, yeah, this was AC's copy.
When Solar Ranch burned down
the word went down
to sell it all
and get out'a town
Grady McMurtry ...
...came racing across time and space to confront us, but we were not there. All that was left was The Eye of Horus (bookstore) and everything was on sale. Grady was particularly pleased to purchase a stele and a copy of AL. He had a pic taken to commemorate the event ...
So yes, it is possible that Stele of Reveling had precious minerals in the paint.
My belief system likes to see it sparkling, day after day, proving to the world that ground gem particles reflect light in a twinkling way. I asked LAShTAL what it looked like (implying esthetics, or aura, not a simple description). He replied with two key words. I think one of them was magnificent. The other is The Lost Word. You can search for it in The LAShTAL Akashic Search Engine.
If there's anybody lazing around here,whose been to Cairo and seen the Stele, I would ask for an elaboration of your impression of this relic ... in terms of radiance, radiation, auric whomp, standoutedness (from other stelae) - that sort of thing?
Sometimes I worry about the sensitivity and seeing ability of the men in Thelemic circles. Are we all going to have to chip in to send Katrice to Kairo to Kidnap See the Stele, and give us some meaningful, energetic info ... instead of dry data?
If there's anybody lazing around here,whose been to Cairo and seen the Stele, I would ask for an elaboration of your impression of this relic ... in terms of radiance, radiation, auric whomp, standoutedness (from other stelae) - that sort of thing?
I have been to the old Cairo Museum back in 1991. Everything I saw radiated an aura of immense power, solemnity and auric womp. But, no I did not personally see the stelae in question. There were so many stelas on display and so much to take in. However, I sent an e-mail to the New Grand Museum on their website asking about whether the stele was on display or not. (I gave them as much information as I could find on Wikipedia regarding the catalog number.) IF I get a response, I will let you know. I assume you think Katrina would be a better conduit of psychic energy. If she does go, I hope she sends us all a postcard. (I'm old fashioned that way)
I have been to the old Cairo Museum back in 1991. Everything I saw radiated an aura of immense power, solemnity and auric womp.
This is interesting. Can you describe the radiation in more objective terms? (i.e., skin tingling, loss of weight (less gravity), pain in the ajna)
"Auric Whomp! means you are blown away by the energy ... not the twinkling paint. One needs to have chi sensitivity, and as I have rudely and condescendingly, stated [above], the folks around here do not appear supportive of such siddhis. So I ask you for details.
This matter of hate-crime against Chi, auras, and auric whomp was heralded by Los 8=3, The Lion of skepticism. This, of course, indicated that he had no sense of personal sensitivity.
I have taught these subject, fairly well-paid I might insert, including Chi, healing, auras, Tai Chi, levels of consciousness (the 7-Planes chart for the public and for college students, The Tree is too much to add to their current burden. I did this in several, legal colleges that were accredited by Accrediting Commissions approved by The US Dept of Education (the gov). My Course Outlines and Daily Lesson Plans are therefore on file in The Akshic Record Rubbish Bin of The Gov. I jest - they are actual legal documents.
I spin all this Shinola in order to establish my credentials to stand up against the ridiculous position of said sudo-8=3. The funny thing is, I'm coming from a hard-plane perspective. I've got gov approval, medical reports, lab tests - the most skeptical base of all.
And Mr 8=3 is coming from the position of absolutely knowing it all, based on his blind skepticism, and calling all these things woo-woo, when they really work best when used in wu-wei.
I have spun this Shinola so that you can appreciate the kind of shit I am up against when I ask you, or anybody, to describe what they see or feel.
Thank you. I'm sure you will do your best. I once attended the Traveling Tut Exhibition. Frater Mont's [on-topic eligibility] catering truck was parked across from the museum at the La Brea Tar pits. I dropped by for free lunch quite often. I must have noticed Tut on show about 5 times (5 visits) before I asked him about it, and he said it was interesting. So I wandered over and paid the dues ...
You tell me what you saw and felt in Cairo - and then I'll tell you the same about my trip on Wilshire Blvd in the heart of The City of Our Mother, the Queen of Los Angeles - have you ever seen such a long city name?
IF I get a response, I will let you know.
This is very exciting. A real-time adventure. A gamble against great odds that you message even got through. Then there's the temperament of the agent(s). Do they hate gringos? Or are they actually nice people who might look something up and respond with gold, um, meaningful data. The splendour of Hod.
I assume you think Katrina would be a better conduit of psychic energy.
Well, yeah. But has she been to Cairo?
I'm old fashioned that way
Putting old-aeon concepts in (parentheses) will not hide the fact that you are attached to the past. That's okay. If old habits don't get burned away while crossing The Burning Ground, they are elents of the personality that do not hinder Will ... so they remain in place.
Everybody who gets accros The Burning Ground therefore retains a configuration that is uniquely unique ... and we get "real characters" who ALWAYS (pardon the caps) display some raging idiosyncrasies. I have now declared the unknown secret of why people come here to LAShTAL. AC holds the title of "most outrageously idiosyncratically unique persona" of all time. Since he displayed this against the backdrop of The Spiritual Quest, we (the same, more or less - probably not "more") then line up here to examine oddities against the backdrop of Does this work?
. I will as you say, eat excrement and terminate. (Sound advice).
A more pleasant alternative would be doing the work, which I tend to see as kind of obligatory for anyone on the path of Thelema. But, speaking from experience, those two things could be part of the work too. 😉
Are we all going to have to chip in to send Katrice to Kairo to Kidnap See the Stele, and give us some meaningful, energetic info ... instead of dry data?
Your confidence in me is inspiring. I have been working on developing some psychometry.
I assume you think Katrina would be a better conduit of psychic energy.
Well, yeah. But has she been to Cairo?
I have not, but maybe I should look in to it 😊
This matter of hate-crime against Chi, auras, and auric whomp was heralded by Los 8=3, The Lion of skepticism. This, of course, indicated that he had no sense of personal sensitivity.
Some of those who deny the existence of such things do so because they lack the ability themselves and therefore take it to mean that they're impossible. You might remember me mentioning a self-proclaimed A:.A:. "teacher" who claimed that the K&C was impossible for anyone besides Crowley at this point in the Aeon.
Does this work?
The final question for anything like this, especially in the area of magick.
they lack the ability themselves and therefore take it to mean that they're impossible.
Bingo.
↑Does this work?Katrice replies ...
The final question for anything like this, especially in the area of magick.
Yes. There is Doing the Work, and Does it Work?
We can let Toad off the hook, because he's [attempting to be] contacting the Museum Officials in El-Kahira. Somebody has to do the office work around here - so that we can shed light on dark subjects.
Not everybody is prepared to take on the full curriculum, do or die, go for broke, to hell with the particulars, I'm getting out of here ... that sort of thing.
A more pleasant alternative would be doing the work, which I tend to see as kind of obligatory for anyone on the path of Thelema. But, speaking from experience, those two things could be part of the work too.
Would someone PLEASE tell me what is "doing the work"? Is it reading Crowley's books and his suggested reading list? Is it astral-projecting to another dimension and talking to the celestial beings? (If it is I have done so, whether I was aware of it or not) Is it going into the wilderness and having some Epiphany? I.ve had my share of psychedelic epiphanies in my time.)
I have not, but maybe I should look in to it
You absolutely should if you can swing it financially. (Contact the Egyptian Tourism Dept.) Or work through a local tourism agency. There are lots of tour groups available, some with specialized themes. (Like art history for ex.) I went on a two-week cruise on the Nile with a female friend of mine. It was an unforgettable experience. I saw things I had only seen in books and movies. I could go on and on, and on, but then I'll be off topic.
We can let Toad off the hook, because he's [attempting to be] contacting the Museum Officials in El-Kahira. Somebody has to do the office work around here - so that we can shed light on dark subjects.
I hope they respond. I'm sure they get thousands of enquires a day from all over the world.
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"Auric Whomp! means you are blown away by the energy ... not the twinkling paint. One needs to have chi sensitivity, and as I have rudely and condescendingly, stated [above], the folks around here do not appear supportive of such siddhis.
Yes I am with you on "Auric Whomp" ....And the Stele has always had that for me.
Au Nuit!
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HG
Not verybody is prepared to take on the full curriculum, do or die, go for broke, to hell with the particulars,
True, few are called to take it to that extent, but I'd like to think that the de Cultu regimen is the minimum.
https://hermetic.com/crowley/book-of-wisdom-or-folly/omicron
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This is interesting. Can you describe the radiation in more objective terms? (i.e., skin tingling, loss of weight (less gravity), pain in the ajna)
By radiationI meant the feeling that I was in some sort of energy storage container in the form of the Great Pyramid of Giza. You walk down a long narrow cavity to reach the "belly of the Beast" I got a little uneasy as I kept thinking of Boris Karloff's The Mummy, no shit, I actually a little scared, But I sallied forth for I knew wonders awaited me. When I reached the dimly lit broken sarcophagus, I began chanting out loud. The other tourists thought I was a nut. I didn't care.
"Auric Whomp! means you are blown away by the energy ... not the twinkling paint. One needs to have chi sensitivity, and as I have rudely and condescendingly, stated [above], the folks around here do not appear supportive of such siddhis. So I ask you for details.
I had incredibly intense and detailed dreams. Especially when I returned home. You asked, so I tell you. I got home at about 1:00am. I was a little wired and jet lagged. I went to sleep at about 3:00am. I dreamed I was back at the museum, only I was flying and looking down at the exhibits. When I woke, my cat was crouched in the corner of the room, hissing and agitated. What did my cat witness? Something frightened her.
This is very exciting. A real-time adventure. A gamble against great odds that you message even got through. Then there's the temperament of the agent(s). Do they hate gringos? Or are they actually nice people who might look something up and respond with gold, um, meaningful data. The splendour of Hod.
I met nice Egyptians, and snotty ones. The only bad part was being constantly bugged by kids and adults for money, or selling stuff. I can deal with that in small doses, but they were overwhelming.
@toadstoolwe Standing at the Great Pyramid and turning to see there is a Pizza Hut across the street is probably not very enlightening either. 🙂
@herupakraath I don'trecall the Pizza Hut, but I did a search, and sure enough there is a Pizza Hut located at Mohammed Mahmoud St. Tahir Sq. Cairo. Only eight miles from the Muesum of Antiquities. Had I known I would have grabbed a pizza to go!
Osiris and Isis agree. Pizza Hut is the best!
True, few are called to take it to that extent, but I'd like to think that the de Cultu regimen is the minimum.
Pretty cool. Sort of reminds of the prayers to the Amduat, especially the stations of the sun "Neglect never the fourfold stations of the sun"
Pretty cool. Sort of reminds of the prayers to the Amduat, especially the stations of the sun "Neglect never the fourfold stations of the sun"
I use Liber Resh as a basis for framing my practice throughout the day, with the Mass of the Phoenix meshing well with the third performance of Resh.
Doing some form of banishing ritual each morning and night is fairly standard magickal practice for protection, cleansing, and centering
The Mass of the Holy Ghost is the so-called "9th Degree", aka sex magick
You've already mentioned traveling the Empyrean in the Body of Light
And meditation is one of the core practices of the magickal path in general.
That's the basics. The A:.A:. curriculum is much more involved than that.
Doing some form of banishing ritual each morning and night is fairly standard magickal practice for protection, cleansing, and centering
For a while I was doing the banishing ritual which if I am not mistaken involves facing the four cardinal points, and with a rod, or in my case my finger and "drawing the right to left symbol of the pentagram." The proper oration is spelled out in Magick in Theory and Practice. I have a solarium that faces east, with three Egyptian statuettes, Horus, Bast and Maat. I use the solarium as my little art studio. All my creative energy is there. Liber Resh is so Egyptianized that it would fit nicely into a morning ritual. All the rituals are to be found in Magick in Theory & Practice. I need to get back into them. Thank you for your input.
Would someone PLEASE tell me what is "doing the work"? Is it reading Crowley's books and his suggested reading list? Is it astral-projecting to another dimension and talking to the celestial beings? (If it is I have done so, whether I was aware of it or not) Is it going into the wilderness and having some Epiphany? I.ve had my share of psychedelic epiphanies in my time.)
We have been over this before. Essentially it is doing the practices. Due to my Virgoness, and the full spectrum of degrees in the realm of Education, I am a leading exponent for doing this work according to the strict curriculum that is laid out, in detail, in order, in Liber XIII. That is the formal work. It stands like the tentpole of Salah-al-din.
Some aspirants are like the tent itself, flapping in the breeze = they do the curriculum in a pick-and-choose manner, dismissing any order, or external testing, but this is cool if they eventually get around to everything (all the listed Libers, regardless of order or grade.
Some questionable questors are like the flag flying atop the tent. They proclaim their sincerity, scholarship, or magical ability, while claiming some grade (always high up there on the flagpole), yet they have done no work. They are "jump-claimers" (they jump over grades to claim the higher prize) and they are subject to ridicule.
I will addreess each point of yours ...
Is it reading Crowley's books and his suggested reading list?
This is where it starts. It is the "Student" deignation ... it is not a grade. The Student Reading List is required, not "recommended." Recommed books are optional.
A new set of books are required at each succeeding level (grade), but the basic reading is done up-front. An exam is given in these books.
Is it astral-projecting to another dimension and talking to the celestial beings?
Yes. At grade level One (Neophyte 1=10 Malkuth. A Neo is tested in astral projection before passing to the next grade.
Is it going into the wilderness and having some Epiphany?
Yes. But one goes to the wild to get out of the city vibes. Then the rituals are performed (the work). These ventures are optional ... but nobody really gets to the higher levels until they.ve been through the meat-grinder on the physical plane.
I.ve had my share of psychedelic epiphanies in my time.)
These were mental-astral in nature. One needs physical involvement if they're going to play Magick. Inward mystical journeys are also required - have your inner epifones been evaluated by a guru, Grand Master, gypsy fortune teller, or other responsible sounding-board?
The only bad part was being constantly bugged by kids and adults for money, or selling stuff. I can deal with that in small doses, but they were overwhelming.
I have heard of this is great detail, from tourists there in 1966. We have a similar situation in Tijuana, and I have walked that mile many times ... but I hear it's much worse in Egypt.
These were mental-astral in nature. One needs physical involvement if they're going to play Magick.
Visions are useless unless the lead to some form of lasting transformation or action. Add to the list of questions: What did it do for you?
But even this can become a tool, gauging how "real" the experiences are in something like working through the Aethyrs to determine when you've reached a point where you can't pass any further.
Sometimes the talk about doing the work, not doing the work, whats the work, etc, etc that these threads invariably get pulled into such an eddy....might be best examined under the context of a Gurdjieffian Feast of Idiots....Montu's is a apparently for dinner or has gone missing, but homework assignments well there seems to never be a lack of homework assignments...where the hell is MONTU...someone has found BVLShIT in mocking the spelling of Boleskine in the Shin for the Win thread....that finds 418 is Boleskine appropriately when spelt BVLShKIN...
Both the text of Liber AL and the historical record show that the ancient Egyptian priest named Ankh-af-na-khonsu (AANK), whose burial stele was a catalyst for the Cairo Working in 1904, was a priest of Montu. He thrived in the period around the late 25th and early 26th Dynasties of Egypt, in the city of Thebes. AANK is identified as the scribe of Liber AL, and Crowley alluded that he was the reincarnation of this priest.
It seems that the most succinct article I have found so far on this Montu-Ankh-af-na-Khonus question is found in: forthethelemites.website
the talk about doing the work, not doing the work, whats the work, etc, etc that these threads invariably get pulled into
Of course, as we well know, there is no work requirement required to join here.
This is enough. The fonts are going crazy. Instability in the Land of Yesod.
It seems that the most succinct article I have found so far on this Montu-Ankh-af-na-Khonus question is found in: forthethelemites.website
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Thanks for the reminder; this material is very thoroughly researched, and well worth reading. I will summarize a couple key points made here:
"Ankh-af-na-khonsu held the high office of ‘Opener of the Doors of the Heaven in Ipet-sut’, which shows that he belonged to the small group of priests at the very top of the cult at Thebes. The priestly outfit that he is wearing on the Stélé of Revealing very likely belongs to this office...
Other titles found on Ankh-af-na-khonsu’s sarcophagi show that he at one time also held some other offices in the cult of Amun(-Ra). As seen on his great sarcophagus, he bore like his father the title of “Overseer of the Sanctuary of the Temple of Amun”...Further found on Ankh-af-na- khonsu’s great sarcophagus is the title and office of: “Priest of service of the month of the Temple of Amon”. Characteristic of many priests of Mentu were that they served both Amun(-Ra) and Mentu, and that these offices to some extent were of administrative character rather than connected directly with performance of rituals."
And on this part of the site AANK I find these snippets:
"Ankh-af-na-khonsu, like his father before him, held an office as priest of Ra-Hor-akhty,... the position in which Ankh-af-na-khonsu is seen standing before the Hawk-headed Lord enthroned... with one arm hanging along the side and the other stretched forward and bent with the palm turned upward and with the thumb seen on top of the hand and this gesture in fact expresses invocation! Ankh-af-na-khonsu does thus not solely adore the god enthroned but is, in fact, invoking him!"
From this extra information, we gather that AANK held several offices, and was involved in the worship and administration of Montu, Amun, and Re-Horakhty, the latter of which he invokes on the stele.
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