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16/10/2006 2:27 pm  

In another post, St Augustine was brought up which gave me food for thought. I'll quote here the familiar passage which Aum418 has already quoted 🙄 :

"Once for all, then, a short precept is given thee: Love, and do what thou wilt: whether thou hold thy peace, through love hold thy peace; whether thou cry out, through love cry out; whether thou correct, through love correct; whether thou spare, through love do thou spare: let the root of love be within, of this root can nothing spring but what is good."

It seems to me that every act of will desribed is to be done under ("through") Love. This would fit with the Christian approach, which could be seen in terms of Will under Love (the feminine fish upon the masculine upright cross which kicked off the whole religion is a good example).

So St Augustine correctly identified the Yin and Yang of nature and expressed it in a way which described the formula of his Aeon. So in this sense, perhaps his statement is not the precursor of "Love under Will" as often stated, but the formula of the posterior aeon expressed in similar language.

Any thoughts?

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18/10/2006 5:33 pm  


Our whole conversation is gone!

Essentially, the idea was that St.Augustine's formula was focused on the passive (relating to the Aeon of Pisces, water, Jesus the fish, Yin, etc) and Crowleys is active (relating to the Aeon of Horus, force & fire, the Lust/Strength card, Therion the Lion, Yang etc etc). St Augustine says "Love, and do what thou wilt" placing love before will. Aiwass says "The word of the law is THELEMA. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will. There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt..." an obvious emphasis on Will.

Also, St. Augustine differentiated greatly between Will & Love, and said that Love should be the basis. The Beast said that Will = Love in that Thelema (93) = Agape (93) but all things should be referred to the Will first if any confusion arises.

Crowley writes in Liber II, The Message of the Master Therion:
" is written-- surely for our great comfort-- 'Love is the law, love under will.' This is to be taken as meaning that while Will is the Law, the nature of that Will is Love. But this Love is as it were a by-product of that Will; it does not contradict or supersede that Will; and if apparent contradiction should arise in any crisis, it is the Will that will guide us aright. Lo, while in The Book of the Law is much of Love, there is no word of Sentimentality. Hate itself is almost like Love! ``As brothers fight ye!'' All the manly races of the world understand this. The Love of Liber Legis is always bold, virile, even orgiastic. There is delicacy, but it is the delicacy of strength. Mighty and terrible and glorious as it is, however, it is but the pennon upon the sacred lance of Will, the damascened inscription upon the swords of the Knight-monks of Thelema."

Notice the "apparent contradiction." Perhaps he is implying that the difference between Will & Love can only be an APPARENT contradiction?

For Crowley's rough essay on the Antecedents (predecessors) of Thelema , click HERE.

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