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Alan_OBrien
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06/09/2020 7:36 pm  

Some of you may have access to this link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000lhkv/episodes/guide

It is a 15-part mystery, but they are only 15 minutes for each episode.

Here is a summary of episode 1:

Henry Akeley, an old student from Dr Eleanor Peck’s folklore and witchcraft course, has gone missing. Could this be Heawood and Kennedy's next story?

The episode I have just listened to has evolved dramatically. First Babylon was mentioned, but this changed to Babalon. There was a snippet of Enochian, and Crowley was mentioned along with John Dee.

Then they talked about Parsons, Hubbard, Cameron and the Babalon Working and the Moonchild.

I think it is going to get very good. I think the writer knows what he or she is on about.

Catch up, tune in and zone out!


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Shiva
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08/09/2020 5:09 am  
Posted by: @alan_obrien

First Babylon was mentioned, but this changed to Babalon. There was a snippet of Enochian, and Crowley was mentioned along with John Dee.

Then they talked about Parsons, Hubbard, Cameron and the Babalon Working and the Moonchild.

Oh, goodness, this looks exciting. Too bad I am deaf enough that I would not hear these names, and so I haven't watched anything. I never do, hardly. But there's not been a post here in well over 24 hooris, so I thought I'd post a useless comment just to make sure the new machinery is still working.

While I'm here, I'd like to get up on a soap box and announce, or denounce, something, but just watching the daily Revelation unfold has made me tired.

soap box clipart 1

 


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christibrany
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09/09/2020 4:18 pm  

Isn't the Usurper in Drakeness an HPL story?  If so how can they get away naming it that although the plot is obviously not the same?

 

Well I guess both Hemingway and Murakami had short story collections called Men Without Women so I suppose not all titles are copy right. 


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Alan_OBrien
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10/09/2020 7:56 am  

@christibrany

I don't believe you can copyright a title.


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Shiva
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10/09/2020 7:18 pm  
Posted by: @alan_obrien

I don't believe you can copyright a title.

I am under the same depression impression. However, I think it can be Trademarked ... under certain conditions, which I am uncertain about. Please consult your attorney or pharmacist.

 


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10/09/2020 7:52 pm  

No, titles are generally not subject to copyright, as lacking sufficient original content as to be copyrightable subject-matter, due to being of minimal content.

Yes, it is sometimes possible to trademark titles; the "certain conditions" basically involve a) the work in question being very, very famous, and b) by being so famous, having generated large amounts of funds to pay expensive lawyers to argue trademark claims. We are basically talking movies/TV shows, and not books, when we talk of possibly trademark-able titles($/£.s.d.)


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christibrany
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10/09/2020 8:32 pm  

I suppose that's good.

If you could copyright or even trademark titles, we would start having to do army numbering or bureaucratic nonsense like 'Book number 13 from Murakami'

 

13. MURAKAMI 

 

how fascinating that sounds. ha...


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Michael Staley
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11/09/2020 4:04 pm  

Using the title "The Whisperer in Darkness" indicates a connection with or development of the Lovecraft story, I'd have thought. Otherwise, it would be somewhat odd - not to say misleading - to use the title.


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Alan_OBrien
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11/09/2020 4:27 pm  
Posted by: @alan_obrien

Henry Akeley,...

To my surprise, this character is central to both, so the Radio 4 series must be based on the same story. 

I like The Call Of Cthulhu but very little else by Lovecraft. There must be a reason why no one has ever made a movie out of one of his tales.


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11/09/2020 4:36 pm  
Posted by: @alan_obrien

There must be a reason why no one has ever made a movie out of one of his tales.

You're sure about that, Alan?


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christibrany
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11/09/2020 4:43 pm  

@alan_obrien

 

I think you are being facetious on purpose?

 

The two by the HPL Historical Society are very good:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/?ref_=fn_al_tt_8 Call of Cthulhu

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1498878/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Whisperer in Darkness 

 

also fairly good and direct renditions were:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264508/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Dagon (= Dagon and 'Innsmouth')

 

then you have a plethora of student films

 


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Michael Staley
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11/09/2020 5:07 pm  
Posted by: @christibrany

I think you are being facetious on purpose?

People are rarely facetious by accident, Chris.

 


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Alan_OBrien
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11/09/2020 7:17 pm  
Posted by: @christibrany

@alan_obrien

 

I think you are being facetious on purpose?

 

The two by the HPL Historical Society are very good:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478988/?ref_=fn_al_tt_8 Call of Cthulhu

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1498878/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Whisperer in Darkness 

 

also fairly good and direct renditions were:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264508/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Dagon (= Dagon and 'Innsmouth')

 

then you have a plethora of student films

 

I suppose I should have said, "A film costing more than $5,000".


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Michael Staley
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11/09/2020 7:41 pm  
Posted by: @alan_obrien

I suppose I should have said, "A film costing more than $5,000".

I think that Color out of Space cost a few cents more than $5,000.

What's the absence of a big-budget film supposed to indicate, anyway? Lack of quality?


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christibrany
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11/09/2020 7:56 pm  
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Posted by: @alan_obrien

I suppose I should have said, "A film costing more than $5,000".

I think that Color out of Space cost a few cents more than $5,000.

What's the absence of a big-budget film supposed to indicate, anyway? Lack of quality?

Exactly.

 

Both HP Lovecraft Historical Society films are extremely well done and high quality.

 

Alan you should watch them and report back. 


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