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    michela
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    Just now, I`m doing some artwork (grafics, paintings) related to the event which occured in March/April 1904 in Cairo. I need more informations about the house in which Aleister and Rose lived at that time in Cairo. Are there photos?
    In return we can offer informations about our scarlet women research in swizerland last year. We think we have some unique informations ans documents.

    Thanks, Michela

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    #10706

    lashtal
    Keymaster

    Hi Michela,

    Well, your thread is getting many hits! Let’s hope that someone is able to help. My money’s on Excoriator – if anyone knows, I suspect he does!

    I’d certainly be very interested in the result of your researches regarding the Scarlet Women. Were you able to confirm the 1976 (?) death date of Leah Hirsig?

    Regards,

    Paul
    webmaster@lashtal.com

    #10707

    kurt
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    Hi Paul,
    Lea (without “h”) Hirsig died in Meiringen 22th February 1975 at 6.15 PM.
    We have the official documents from the “Zivilstandsamt Oberhasli”, near Meiringen. We had contact with a man, a hotelier, who´s grand-aunt was Lea. He told us, that Lea was a “very important” aunt for his father. He told us, if he could find photos from her, he would send it.
    Last year we travelled in that wonderful region of switzerland, searching for Lea´s grave. The grave was opend 8 years before. (graves in that region only exist for 20 years.)
    But we could find all other informations and the contact with Lea´s “bloodline”.
    A few month ago a lady, “Mrs. Hirsig” from the “Zivilstandsamt” in Amsolding CH (near Trachselwald, Lea´s place of birth) called me to give more information about Lea. I was perplexed, hearing the name Hirsig from a lady with typical swiss – pronounciation. But it was “only” by chance (C.G. Jung would liked it).
    OK. That´s for today. Two years ago, we travelled to Cefalu. Last year to Meiringen. This year ?.
    Please excuse our English.
    Regards
    Kurt & Michela

    #10708

    kurt
    Participant

    Hi Paul,
    sorry for mistake: Lea died 6.15 [size=24px]AM![/size]
    Regards
    Kurt

    #10709

    Excoriator
    Participant

    I have very good reason to believe that it was in Sharia Kasr el Nil (i.e. Kasr el Nil street). And there is a fair chance that it was in the Midan Soliman Pasha, a.k.a. Place de Soliman Pasha, a.k.a. Soliman Pasha Square; now known as Midan Talaat Harb (a.k.a. etc.).

    And it is possible that it is a building in a photograph on this website:

    http://www.egy.com/landmarks/

    Go down the index on the left to this one:

    99-03-18 MIDAN SOLIMAN PASHA

    On that page there is a photograph, taken within two decades of 1904, of the Michel Ayoub Pasha Building; a curious, curved building that still exists. It was built around the turn of the century and it is my prime candidate. Unfortunately, I haven’t quite clinched it. If anyone would like to pay for me to go back to Cairo, and/or London, I might be able to confirm it for y’all. If it is that building, it wasn’t called that then. It is also possible it was a previous building on that site.

    Interestingly, the Midan is generally regarded as the centre of Cairo (though it has some competition in the much larger Midan Tahrir, which the museum is on). I even once had a tout approach me in the Midan Talaat Harb using as his opening line that it is the centre of the city.

    CSM

    #10710

    lashtal
    Keymaster

    Thanks very much for that, Excoriator.

    Let’s hope that someone is able to help. My money’s on Excoriator – if anyone knows, I suspect he does!

    Paul
    webmaster@lashtal.com

    #10711

    michela
    Participant

    Hi Excoriator,
    thank you very much for this information. I am very happy.
    If you are interested in it, I will send you a copy of Lea´s family-record.
    Regards
    Michela & Kurt

    #10712

    Excoriator
    Participant

    This one also might be of interest. It is circa 1900 and one of the distinctive cupolas of what is now known as the Michel Ayoub Pasha Building is visible to the right. The statue of Soliman Pasha is also visible in the middle of the place.

    CSM

    #10713

    faustian
    Participant

    Chapter II 76

    #10714

    SteveCranmer
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    "faustian" wrote:
    Chapter II 76

    I’ve been waiting a few days for someone else to take this bait… but I’ll chomp on the hook:

    Are you saying that details about the specific hotel in Cairo might contain clues to the letter/number cipher in the above verse? There’s no Hotel Algmor around the corner, is there…? 🙂

    #10715

    faustian
    Participant

    Chapter III 4

    #10716

    lashtal
    Keymaster

    Ok, Faustian…

    II:76

    4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y
    X 24 89 R P S T O V A L. What
    meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest
    not; nor shalt thou know ever. There
    cometh one to follow thee: he shall
    expound it. But remember, o chosen
    one, to be me; to follow the love of
    Nu in the star-lit heaven; to look forth
    upon men, to tell them this glad word.

    III:4

    Choose ye an island!

    Do you want to give us a hint where this is leading, or are you just throwing out references at random?

    #10717

    faustian
    Participant

    II:76 Gives you a name

    III:4 Narrows the location

    You already know the city.

    #10718

    lashtal
    Keymaster

    I assume you’re referring to Zamalek Island, Cairo, also known as Gazireh. In Crowley’s time it was still known by its old name of Gezirat Boulaq (ie Boulaq Island).

    But I don’t see how this relates to verse II:76…

    Intriguing, though!

    #10719

    wulfram
    Participant

    Oh wow… I hate it when light bulbs go off in head after being bludgeoned…. I think I may see what you’re driving at, “faustian”. Dammit, I wasn’t up for doing research tonight, I’ve got deadlines creeping. Although, a short story I’ve been tooling around with might just benefit from this knowledge, at least for giving it a touch more verisimilitude.

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