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    christibrany
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    http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/25404/Could-there-be-a-second-Sphinx-buried-in-Giza

    CAIRO – 30 September 2017: An upcoming book seeks to rewrite history with a wild new claim speculating at the possibility that a second Sphinx might be buried in Giza.

    Their claim, as established by historian authors Gerry Cannon and Malcolm Hutton, is based on a long-standing theory that the Great Sphinx of Giza had a counterpart.

    This is due to the fact that in every Ancient Egyptian depiction of a Sphinx has always come in pairs. They were believed to represent duality, particularly as a male and female, and represented the transformation of the sun into the moon, which the Egyptians believed occurred when the Sun traveled through the earth and emerged as the moon, guarded on each end by a Sphinx.

    This makes the Great Sphinx in Giza so a peculiarity, given that it’s all alone. Going even further, the two Historians believe they may have discovered where it could have been buried. They suspect the Giza Sphinx’s female counterpart is buried in a mound guarding one of the Great Pyramids.

    Egyptologist Bassam El Shammaa is also a believer in the theory. Having studied the Sphinx for over a decade, he has come to a conclusion that at some point in history a second Sphinx did exist, but was destroyed with the passing of history, leaving only her male counterpart standing to this day. Talking to Daily News Egypt, El Shammaa pointed out that the Dream Stela from Thutmosis IV’s era shows two Sphinxes, providing evidence for the theory.

    Cannon and Hutton also speculate that the Sphinxes might be older than commonly believed, dating back to a time when Ancient Egypt had a tropical climate, not too long after the end of the Ice Age.

    #101518

    Shiva
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    CS: Cannon and Hutton also speculate that the Sphinxes might be older than commonly believed, dating back to a time when Ancient Egypt had a tropical climate, not too long after the end of the Ice Age.

    Graham Hancock has published a lot of data/info that places Sphinxo at an age of 12,500 years. Manly P. Hall said that there are salt-water level marks inside the Great Pyramid, indicating that it had been partially underwater at some time and that this took place 80,000 years ago! There is no widely recognized proof for any of these figures, and modern Egyptologists are sticking strictly to the accepted timeline …

    The Great Pyramid of Giza (also known as the Pyramid of Khufu or the Pyramid of Cheops) is the oldest and largest of the three pyramids in the Giza pyramid complex bordering what is now El Giza, Egypt. It is the oldest of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, and the only one to remain largely intact.

    Based on a mark in an interior chamber naming the work gang and a reference to fourth dynasty Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu, Egyptologists believe that the pyramid was built as a tomb over a 10 to 20-year period concluding around 2560 BC. – Wikipedia

    But what do they know?

    #101524

    christibrany
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    I also subscribe to the very ancient date of the Sphinx of over 8000 years due to the water erosion and obvious changing of the face of the monument.

    #101541

    ptoner
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    What is the Sphinx, was actually a Jackal, guarding the underworld before it had its head defaced and reduced in size?

    Anubis

    This book is a very interesting read.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1594772711?ie=UTF8&tag=roberttemplecom&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=1594772711

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    #101557

    christibrany
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    also fascinating, thank you Paul

    #101559

    frater_anubis
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    Iv’e been to Cairo several times and also visited the Sphinx. One observation that I made was that the Sphinx’s head is obviously much younger than the rest of the body. Actually, it looks like its been fixed on, though the nose has been damaged. Having read one of Hancock’s books, i was looking if i could see the alleged rain channels on the body (I could, they are there)

    Whether there ever was a second Sphinx, im not sure. Ive never seen a reference in any of the literature that i’ve read to a second Sphinx, and neither have I seen anything that resembled the Guardian of the Dead and the Underworld on the one near Giza.

    I guess these days the more sensational the claim, the more the books sell

    #101575

    ptoner
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    You do say Anubis yourself, after all….

    that the Sphinx’s head is obviously much younger than the rest of the body

    So I agree with you, and as it faces east, it may actually be a lion rather than a jackal.

    Chapter 62 of the Book of the Dead, “May I be granted power over the waters like the limbs of Seth, for I am he who crosses the sky, I am the Lion of Re, I am the Slayer who eats the foreleg, the leg of beef is extended to me…”.

    As for a second Sphinx/Lion/Jackal, They would be relatively close together, guarding the path towards the Pyramid, back to back or facing each other. So it should be obvious if there is one and make sense for duality reasons.
    So where is it?

    Also many Pyramid texts mention a Jackal Lake, a moat has been mentioned in ancient texts as surrounding the Sphinx/Lion/Jackal.
    Example.

    372: Horus takes him to his side, he purifies this Unas in the Jackal-lake (S zAb),
    he cleans the ka of this Unas in the Lake of Dawn (S dA.tj),
    he rubs down the flesh of the Ka of this Unas as well as his own,
    with that which is at Re’s side in the Akhet-horizon, with what he (Re) receives

    http://pyramidtextsonline.com/antesouth.html

    EDIT : Late addition, found this recent paper, with a new interpretation that the monument is actually the Lioness named Mehit. It she was the guardian of a library, then she may well be alone?

    A New Interpretation of a Rare Old Kingdom Dual Title: The King’s Chief Librarian and Guardian of the Royal Archives of Mehit.
    http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=77957

    The plot thickens.

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    #101580

    christibrany
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    I agree that the Sphinx was most likely Lion-headed in the remote past, originally.

    Graham Hancock has convincing evidence for this, and the monument being built to correspond to the Leo constellation and astrological age:

    The Giza Template: The Leo, Orion Relationship

    The Age of Leo was approximately 10,0000 to 8,0000 BC; this ‘somehow’ corresponds to the weathering evidence of the Sphinx being about 8000 to 10000 years old, not 4000 years old as commonly believed.

    #101582

    frater_anubis
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    The Sphinx’s body is clearly that of a lion, with long paws, a lions tail, a feline pose about to pounce, the body is also very weathered – made of a stone that looked like limestone to me.

    The head seemed to be less weathered than the body and if you look closely, you can see that it’s been attached, whereas the body has been carved from the bedrock. The paws also look more modern. So, if the Sphinx had a partner it would be reasonable to expect that it would also be carved from bedrock but there is no trace of it anywhere in the vicinity.

    I’m not persuaded by the dual Sphinx theory. Or that it once had a jackal’s head. But I think Hancock might be right about how old it is and it’s clearly been rained on – with a lot of rain at that.

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