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ignant666
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07/10/2019 1:03 am  

Posting about my dad's belief there was a British comedian called Marty Python (conflating Marty Feldman and Monty Python) led me to thinking "How could dad have thought that was a real person's name?"

But presumably he thought it was a stage name, like the future Sid Vicious and Johnny Rotten, two names straight out of Python.

And i was reminded of another similar name from my childhood- my "imaginary friend", Punky Shark. Punky was visible, and audible, only to me, of course. No, i am not making this up, and yes, i was a sitting duck for punk rock when it came along in my teenage years.

Punky Shark often broke things, and engaged in other mischief. The things he broke, and the results of his mischief, were of course apparent to all, unlike him. I have no recollection whatever of this, but both my parents often mentioned him as a big part of my childhood.

So, my question- how many others had "imaginary friends", and what, if any, do we think might be the spiritual/occult meaning of these pesky doppelgangers? Apparently they are less common among children these days; my son never had one.

If only our old comrade Dr. S.'. H.'. Fra. Los, 8=3, PhD, were still here- he could have a field day pointing out that many grown magick practitioners spend much of their time talking to their imaginary friends!


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Tiger
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08/10/2019 4:44 am  

Is the conversant doppelganger reflected as an
alternative autonomous programed being on a network of information systems
responding and enhancing your network ?
And interfacing with the pondering cycle ?


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Shiva
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08/10/2019 7:35 am  

Ig: my question- how many others had “imaginary friends”, and what, if any, do we think might be the spiritual/occult meaning of these pesky doppelgangers?

Yes. Two. They always "appeared" together, but I can't describe them; I have only my parents' conversation to rekindle the memory of ...?

One was good, the other a troublemaker. Youthful Abel and Cain. I guess I brought the archetype with me after passing through Eden.

In your case, I suppose The Shadow Knows (see Jung: Shadow.

In my case, it was probably a foreshadowing of my insanity and split persona.

In Tiger's case, it's some Borg.net that invaded his mind. That's why he works in the computer field, so it sustains him.

Ig: Dr. S.’. H.’. Fra. Los, 8=3, PhD - he could have a field day pointing out that many grown magick practitioners spend much of their time talking to their imaginary friends!

Ind, in this single exceptionary case, he would be correct. Crowley had Aiwass, Alamantrah, Lam, and Choronzon ("head zone"). The Theosophists had Morya, Koot Hoomi, Djwhal Khul, Serapis Bey, Hilarion, and St germain.

These are mostly real historical entities who have been mixed up with an archetype, and then mythologized ... in one way or another.

I think we can actually trace our animas and shadows down into Jung's Qabalah. Anybody know a good (really good) Jungian psycholosists who offers bedget rates?


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christibrany
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08/10/2019 5:06 pm  

I never had imaginary friends but I did see gnomes and other little people while I would walk in the woods or fields alone. Then I would leave them offerings of food or pretty trinkets.

@Shiva psychologist for the purpose of? I know of one Jungian psychologist but he specialises. I can email you about it.


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Serpent 252
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08/10/2019 5:22 pm  

ignant666, thank you for your question. At first I've been disappointed because I hadn't had imaginary friends, but then I've recalled my uncle Universe.

When I was kid I've been experiencing a state of mind which I'd report to my late mother as "I've been talking with the uncle Universe." I had talked with an entity, in the state of mind between dreaming & awakening; I've felt peaceful & somehow limitless, & he was huge & kind; I've been asking him about things & he has been answering or he'd simply talked to me.

I don't remember anything else, I just know we (uncle Universe and I) have been talking about things like One Star in Sight, Magick in Theory and Practice, and the occult in general.


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Shiva
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08/10/2019 8:33 pm  

cs: psychologist for the purpose of? I know of one Jungian psychologist but he specialises. I can email you about it.

For the purpose of tracing our childhood friends down into Jungian concepts like the Anima (Angel) or Shadow (Dweller) or Self (Atma).

Either you're playing along with the game, or you've fallen into the Shiva-Trap. which is not a gotcha game, but rather where my subtle sarcasm is taken seriously.

Thelemites are supposed to sort out real or imaginary friends, angels, the shadow (known as the Dweller on the Threshold by esoteric pundits and pedants).


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christibrany
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08/10/2019 10:07 pm  

That one was so subtle I didn't even catch it. tsk tsk.

Back to gnome-watching.


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Shiva
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09/10/2019 7:04 am  

I saw a Leprechaun once. Clear as day. well, it was in daylight, and in the forest. He might have been a Gnome, but I've looked up various pics, and I've picked Leprechaun. I was a young adult. I may have taken some of that legal acid. Doesn't matter. Clear as a bell.


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11/10/2019 1:57 am  

My imaginary childhood friend was a white horse whose name I won't reveal. I used to ride on him which might have looked something like me trotting along holding an invisible bridle.
I suspect the imaginary friend is either A) nothing less than manifestation of a persons HGA or B) An invention children make at lonely moments to put themselves in some company.


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wormwood
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14/10/2019 8:50 pm  

I have never had an imaginary friend, and unlike many of my housemates I don't hear voices in my head..

I tried to speak to Jesus.. but he wasn't there/..... I tried to speak to the aliens from my roof but they weren't there... I tried to speak to Mamoon but she wasn't there......and I tried to speak to pan and he wasn't there. so that was a dismal fail of crazy 101 attributes.. actually it's pretty lonely in this synchronistic time....

none of my avatars are separate from m.. they are a part of me at that time.... whether that be mood feeling.. being....

@donal An invention children make at lonely moments to put themselves in some company.

maybe .. my reasoning is I was never lonely but always alone... off exploring.. mountains creeks..tunnels.... tadpoles.... lego....books....garden worms...

but then reasoning states that I cannot prove nor disprove another's "friend" as I do know that anything is possible so what may be written off as "little petey's imaginary friend" may indeed be "Peteys HGA"

wouldn't Petey know that difference?

edit no .. the HGA is part of you something that hasn't quite melded into one.... until I guess you achieve the conversation... Im not there yet/....

I saw a Leprechaun once. Clear as day. well, it was in daylight, and in the forest. He might have been a Gnome, but I’ve looked up various pics, and I’ve picked Leprechaun. I was a young adult.

I sitting across from one now... he's watching anime... been up for an few nights/days now.. kinda shy...nice guy... lost in this world existence.... blue blue eyes, beard pale skin..bouncy.. aversion 2 bathing..two outfits.....always alone.. startles when spoken to......fidgety.. goes from lounge chair to lounge chair..lives on coffee linc

s the conversant doppelganger reflected as an
alternative autonomous programed being on a network of information systems
responding and enhancing your network ?
And interfacing with the pondering cycle ?

so very sim.. the thought that I am someones sim in a game crosses at times....I hope not I burned the house, drowned someone I sent for swim and killed the kids when I finally got them to mate but I had great doric columns


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Shiva
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15/10/2019 2:59 am  

ww: ... the HGA is part of you something that hasn’t quite melded into one….

So are the imaginary friends, the demons, the shadow, and even the ... Aleister Crowley (if want to carry the samadhi that far).


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