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    wellreadwellbred
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    Memorial celebration at the Boleskine House:

    The Boleskin House Foundation intends “… to make the estate open for private memorial events for relatives who would like to scatter the ashes of a loved one in the gardens.”

    My question is, would you for your memorial celebration have your ashes scattered in the gardens of the Boleskine House?

    “Memorial celebrations: We are aware that certain communities feel that the estate holds spiritual importance. With this in mind we intend to make the estate open for private memorial events for relatives who would like to scatter the ashes of a loved one in the gardens. If you would like to hold a memorial celebration then you can email us at info@boleskinehouse.org with proposed dates. There will be no charges for such services.” (Source: https://www.boleskinehouse.org/restoration/mission-and-vision/)

    #114725

    christibrany
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    Answer: no.

    I am an insane black brother (nudge) so I am going to be buried so I can resurrect.

    Does this mean that Christianity is ‘evil’ LHP? dun dun dun….

    Barbara? ma’am?

    #114733

    Shiva
    Participant

    No thank you.

    #114737

    kidneyhawk
    Participant

    Boleskine House belongs to Crowley’s “Magical Universe.” At a certain point, this is projected by the Magus upon the Outward Universe (so seeming), subjugating a number of Aspirants to its Glamour. This may or may not benefit the Magus. It does not, of necessity, benefit the Magus To Be. In fact, it may be so that such subjugation prohibits Gnosis under the guise of Devotion to the “Path.”

    Scattering my ashes in the Gardens of Boleskine 2.0? Nope.

    But it does beg the question: WHY?

    Could it be to blend and bind with the idea of a Spiritual Life somehow above ones own?

    If that’s the best Aleister “Cut your own way through the jungle” Crowley can offer his readers, then we might as well just admit what a colossal failure his “system” was as it plays out in a subculture of dysfunctional devotees.

    To every Magi their own Sacred Sites of Initiatic History.

    Wellread….may I ask if YOU wish to have YOUR ashes scattered in those yet to be grown flowers?

    And, if Yes or No, WHY?

    #114744

    wellreadwellbred
    Participant

    kidneyhawk: “Wellread….may I ask if YOU wish to have YOUR ashes scattered in those yet to be grown flowers?

    And, if Yes or No, WHY?”

    Me, no. Why, the weather is to bad there. I would prefer Cape Verde 20th driest country in the world, or Galapagos Islands, driest place in the tropics. I have a thing for drie weather and islands. (BOTL: III:4. “Choose ye an island!”)

    #114753

    Anonymous

    @kittyhawk But it does beg the question: WHY?

    Could it be to blend and bind with the idea of a Spiritual Life somehow above ones own?

    because everyone loves to name drop and jump on the bandwagon
    “see the toilet Aleister Crowley once crapped in .. special on now–only 1000 dollars for a guided tour”…

    To every Magi their own Sacred Sites of Initiatic History.

    I agree …. each has their own path and places… not that Im an actual Magi but then again I guess I am because it’s my name after all … I’ve been burnt enough alive to know that while I hate cold, fire burns and hurts bad… so nup to cremation and nup to burial
    Id love to visit Scotland because Im a macleod …but also… I hate cold…

    “you would think you would learn, light also can burn and charcoal can tarnish the sheen” suicide moth – Mayet 2008

    the only cold place on my bucket list is firmly slotted at number one “going to finland to see the aurora” …. *including packing lots of battery operated thermal underwear and long jons …. I figure if I ever get to Finland, its a hop skip and jump to Scotland – Isle of skye, loch Tay (historical fiction/fact book Im going to eventually finish writing one day – Calgacus).. maybe it’s not fiction .. the romans lost more than the bloody 33rd legion *mutters mon grapius .. we were a matriarchal race of fae folk

    If that’s the best Aleister “Cut your own way through the jungle” Crowley can offer his readers, then we might as well just admit what a colossal failure his “system” was as it plays out in a subculture of dysfunctional devotees.

    I smile when you say that .. because I believe that was his intention…

    @wellreadwellbread I am an insane black brother (nudge) so I am going to be buried so I can resurrect.
    nudge nudge wink wink say no more..

    takes too long just ask Hera…
    blasted black brothers…I say the sage sisters… something to create…
    but when people ask me are you going to be buried or cremated.. I reply: stuff that dying sh8t, I’m reaching for the stars and going for immortality..
    I have a thing for warmth and tropics… I’d love to check out every place on earth .. if I achieve my lifelong goal.. I got half a chance…

    Legend kevin bl**dy wilson I’ve been everywhere man… starring nigel (KBW inspired so much of my work apologies in advance to those politically correct internationals.. this is australia and we see the funny side of everything… )

    ps Im a WellReadInbred and the most crazy sane person you will ever meet or the most sane crazy person depends what mirror you look through…

    #114757

    Shiva
    Participant

    Therion did imply that we had to cut our own way through the aethyrs, and too many people forget that … but he furnished a superb set of tools for the cutting.

    Why? it is asked in more places than one, above, and probably below. Why? is treated in a most unfriendly manner in AL and Lies. We all have preferences, but we don’t need to explain them to anyone … except the psychologist, who wants us to be honest with ourselves. Forget the psychiatrist (pseudoAntiChrist, M.D.) because he/she will simply write you a prescription guaranteeing less access to the higher realms, and he/she doesn’t care if you’re honest or deceptive … you just need to be calmed down.

    Assorted interest in Cephalu and Boleskine is noted. Every Temple I worked in, prior to 2004, has been torn down to make way for new apartment buidings, or it was destroyed by fire.

    “But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox …”
    AL III-34

    This invisible house is not dependent upon physical structures. Anicca, Anicca, Everything passes away! it is not related to geo-location or geo-direction, because it’s invisible and located on the “inner planes.” It is poratable, and may be introduced upon the etheric physical plane wherever one is located in the eternal now. This means one can sense it, and even see it if they have developed even the slightest amount of etheric vision (hint: Ultraviolet; purple beyond purple – the light that’s higher than eyesight).

    Gravity is shattering Cefalu, and Boleskine was destroyed by fire. Maybe one or both will be rebuilt, restored, even upgraded. And maybe one or both will be converted into capitalistic showplaces. So what?

    The invisible house is of one’s own creation. Or at least one’s efforts at slowing the mind allow one to perceive a pre-existing house/temple on the inner planes.

    Do we (anyone) really care about what happens to a shell of former activity? Are these places holy, such that we might be tempted to care about some dump(s) on the physical plane?

    Anicca, anicca.

    #114762

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    My question is, would you for your memorial celebration have your ashes scattered in the gardens of the Boleskine House?

    I don’t think by that point my ashes or what was physically left of me would be that bothered about their ultimate location — it would be more of a question for one’s “nearest & dearest”.to dispose of. I have a recollection of A.C. suggesting somewhere leaving his own ashes on a “ledge” somewhere around the Boleskine estate. That would have been an easier arrangement before it fell through his (or rather Georgie MacNie Cowie, his O.T.O. Treasurer)’s hands just before the start of World War One; he also expressed a desire for them to be interred at Poets’ Corner in Westminster Abbey as well, but I don’t think he was altogether that fussed towards the end. Presumably though he favoured cremation because he didn’t want any wacky necromantic types abusing his skull or mortal remans trying to raise him from the dead, etc.

    Although not really one for burial (and certainly not just yet) I was wondering if it was still possible to be laid to rest in the burial plot adjacent to Boleskine House on the other side of the road (as celebrated in A.C.’s quite-droll-in-parts play “The Ghouls” that appeared in The Equinox I:7, and which is supposed to have a secret passageway connecting it with the House somewhere? More mysteries!) However it did exude a very peaceful sort of vibe about it, as does most of the surrounding area in fact — where exactly is the omphalos of Boleskine, I wonder? it might not have been anywhere in the actual building (now shell) at all.

    If you would like to hold a memorial celebration then you can email us at info@boleskinehouse.org with proposed dates. There will be no charges for such services.”
    This seems uncommon decent in the present age we’re living in where virtually everything and in particular business enterprises has its price. It almost engenders a cynical state of mind in one to conjecture where the catch is: after all, there’s hardly ever any such thing as a free lunch and all undertakings of a similar nature would at least impose a basic nominal nonprofitmaking figure just to go towards the costs of covering restoration and ongoing maintenance…

    While on the subject of Boleskine House, does anybody have any further information about the church which once stood on the site and was supposed to have burned down in a previous conflagration incinerating all the worshippers within it? Although I have come across numerous references to it, none of them contain any further detail at all and the matter seems to whiff of legend rather than having any real historical basis in fact. It must have been a very fast-spreading fire for one thing, for none of the congregation to have been able to exit in a reasonably orderly & minimally panic-stricken fashion by the same way they came in or a side door… Any supplemental details (with sourced backup) would be much appreciated.

    Norma N Joy Conquest

    #114800

    Anonymous

    While on the subject of Boleskine House, does anybody have any further information about the church which once stood on the site and was supposed to have burned down in a previous conflagration incinerating all the worshippers within it? Although I have come across numerous references to it, none of them contain any further detail at all and the matter seems to whiff of legend rather than having any real historical basis in fact.

    ooh that rings a bell..from way back before I even knew about Boleskine… now to search the memory bank .. Im remembering something like it and the Campbells come to mind… or was that a cave be back soonly

    #114907

    Alan_OBrien
    Participant

    The kindly owners are allowing deposition of ashes free of charge.

    I would rather, as a tribute to my lawless life, that a relative disposed of my ashes furtively, in a way similar to the disposal of tunnel dirt in The Wooden Horse (1950).

    #114910

    ignant666
    Participant

    I would rather, as a tribute to my lawless life, that a relative disposed of my ashes furtively, in a way similar to the disposal of tunnel dirt in The Wooden Horse (1950).

    We did this with a part of my father’s ashes in a certain park in Paris (where scattering of ashes is interdit), though our WW II escape movie model was The Great Escape (set in the same POW camp as The Wooden Horse).

    We did not have special bags sewn in our trousers, but instead divided up the ashes into bandannas knotted in a sort of cylindrical fashion, with easily-undone knots at the bottom, and dribbled them down our legs while strolling and keeping a sharp eye for the cops and park attendants.

    As to the OT, no i do not want my ashes scattered at Boleskine. This strikes me as unhealthy cult-of-personality stuff of the type AC himself derided as “Crowleyanity”. Of course he did as much as he could to foster such a thing while disingenuously claiming to be appalled by such a possibility.

    I will leave it to posterity to decide where my ashes go. My only funeral preference is that the music has to be Walter/Wendy Carlos’ “Theme from ‘A Clockwork Orange'” (aka Purcell’s “Funeral March of Queen Mary”), like at any good skinhead’s funeral:

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    #114932

    Alan_OBrien
    Participant

    Ignant666 I agree with you.

    I believe there is a hierarchy of where one is laid to rest.

    A Mount of Olives
    B Below Vatican Altar
    C Embedded in Qaaba wall
    D In Poet’s Corner, Westminster Abbey
    E Père Lachaise Cemetery, Paris
    F Highgate, London
    G Ground to dust and jettisoned in outer space
    H Thrown over Niagara Falls (NIAGARA FALLS!!)
    J Chucked into the Mediterranean
    K Left on a London Underground seat
    L Flushed down the toilet

    Where in that list does scattered at Boleskine come?

    #114947

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    Where in that list does scattered at Boleskine come?

    How about between H and J, since there is a convenient vacant spot/ space/ resting place where it could go (and nature abhors a vacuum)? Viz.:

    I Scattered at Boleskine

    Maybe there could even be an alternative to H such as: Thrown over the falls at Foyers (FOYERS FALLS!!)??

    Suggestioningly yours,
    N Joy

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