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  • #113338

    dom
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    @jamiebarter

    Unless you are setting him up (for a fall) given the nature of the name of your avatar, or would that be uncharitable of me?

    What? Shiva striking hard and low without love for all?

    #113339

    Shiva
    Participant

    I found another Reply page only with no posts and no page numbers to “go back one” page. So here’s another “bump” page. Heck, it worked last time.

    #113340

    Shiva
    Participant

    1. The “bump” worked … twice inna row!

    j: I have noticed an increase in the apparent plasticity of the space-time continuum and of mandela-effects in a trompe l’oeil fashion lately, call me mad if you will.

    No. Apparently you’re made of the right stuff in your assigned sector of the spectrum of consciousness.

    But your difficulties in getting posts to remain posted are (along with my “Reply box only” adventures) symptoms of buggery in the gears of the new, improved (but classic) format. I wonder if this version came with an A.’.A.’. Imprimatur.

    j: what therefore is your considered verdict?

    With only one data input (yours), it will not be possible to arrive at a verdict in less than 1.5 Aeons.

    j: It seems that you have given elite/ Michael/ micro the benefit of the doubt to an even greater degree than I did earlier

    No doubts to benefit. He had a classical 8th neurocircuit encounter. He has declared his intent to formulate a coherent text based on assorted LAShTAL posts. He has staded it reveals or solves or explains the RPTOVAL enigma. If he can wrap it up into a single package, and reveal some indications for benefitting the Universe’s welfare, then this all qualifies for a Master’s degree thesis.

    j: Unless you are setting him up (for a fall) given the nature of the name of your avatar, or would that be uncharitable of me?

    Yes. Uncharitable is a good term.

    j: With the slightly annoying feeling that my first version of this may have been better,

    Right. People are always complaining about the lost Golden Age, or the Lost Word, or the missing Manuscript. It’s part of the game.

    d: What? Shiva striking hard and low without love for all?

    Yes. Uncharitable is a good term.

    #113343

    Tiger
    Participant

    “keep working on that physical body. The incoming energies put an increasingly electro-magnetic strain on the physical body. We can blame the increase in Schauser Residence, no, Schumann Resonance, or point the finger at the promination of the Aeon of Horus. Anyone disagree? Anyone not feeling a bit more pressure, probably with some physical disturbance (minor or major)? “

    yes
    my tone work on guitar is improving
    my phrasing has gone backwards
    to qliphothic crawling
    swishing

    but felling it will all come together again

    aside from that
    keep on trekking

    and hope
    The App logging numbers, data, spellchecking, etc
    spending time,
    will get it together
    and get the A.I.
    in the joint

    well that could be a blessing or a curse

    #113345

    dom
    Participant

    Jamie, you seem cynical about Shiva’s reasoning here regarding Micheal and his attainment?

    Why?

    @shiva anyone can open up the neuroatomic circuit via ketamine,right? That would therefore mean all of the 80s club kids are 7=4 Masters. Right?

    #113346

    Shiva
    Participant

    d: Jamie, you seem cynical about Shiva’s reasoning here regarding Micheal and his attainment?

    What attainment? I don’t see that an “attainment” has been enacted. It was a drawn-out experience.

    @shiva anyone can open up the neuroatomic circuit via ketamine,right?

    Any one? No. Just because ketamine allows one to stay conscious while the physical body is anesthetized doesn’t mean one has had an 8th circuit experience.

    That would therefore mean all of the 80s club kids are 7=4 Masters. Right?

    This [^] sentence contains mixed metaphors, confusion of the planes, misappropriation of terms, degrees, and the term “all.” It’s so mixed up and assumptional that I’ll just skip anal-isis and commentary, and move on to a place where my head doesn’t hurt from examining false science and irrational reasoning.

    #113360

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    @dom :

    Jamie, you seem cynical about Shiva’s reasoning here regarding Micheal and his attainment?
    Why?

    Do I dough, Dom? That seems more like what you want to read into it and putting words into mine (& also Shiva’s) mouth rather than what I was primarily intending to convey … could you indicate how you arrived at this impression before I’m able to respond to your question(ing)?

    @shiva :

    But your difficulties in getting posts to remain posted are (along with my “Reply box only” adventures) symptoms of buggery in the gears of the new, improved (but classic) format.
    You look to be right – something out of the ordinary occurred, but this time it probably had a quite mundane explanation, although I’m still not entirely sure what it was as posts don’t normally appear, suddenly disappear & then reappear in the usual course of things

    With only one data input (yours), it will not be possible to arrive at a verdict in less than 1.5 Aeons.
    Not only mine, off the top of my head didn’t you have at least chris and ignant’s reactions? That should reduce the aeon count a tiddly bit. One for and one against, if I recall, so perhaps they cancel out and we’re back where we started. Is the Resonance still increasing, incidentally? (have mislaid where the link is)

    What attainment? I don’t see that an “attainment” has been enacted.
    The attainment of “MT-ness” about which you previously remarked “Aha! I suspected that you had attained”

    Clarifyingly yours, as ever
    N Joy

    #113364

    Shiva
    Participant

    j: Is the Resonance still increasing, incidentally? (have mislaid where the link is)

    Funny that yo should ask right when we were right in the middle of a 36-hour blitzkreig.

    https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/

    You do not have to have an illness or discord. That’s for us aged, sensitive, olf folks … or younger folks who have system or two that is already week. Behind all this is perception of “realty” and consciousness (Shen) itself. You mentioned alteration in space/time, and I would be interested in reading about one of them … the most interesting one, of course.

    The attainment of “MT-ness

    Ah, yes, it was I, said the guilty party. In that case of sarcastic recognition, I recognized that he had recognized the correlation between two or more sets of data, each somehow related to the letters “MT.” MT is 49 and Magister Templi, and Michael Tierney, and MegaTron (codeword: 7×7).

    However, I was neither conferring nor recognizing an initiate of Binah, such as Fr. Los, 8=3, or others of this stature. He still has his intended “Thesis” to be orged (organized), prepared, and published. After that he can get around to letting it all go, and entering into the Silence.

    #113365

    dom
    Participant

    Do I dough, Dom? That seems more like what you want to read into it and putting words into mine (& also Shiva’s) mouth rather than what I was primarily intending to convey … could you indicate how you arrived at this impression before I’m able to respond to your question(ing)?

    Dat was den. Dis is now.

    #113367

    Tiger
    Participant

    The nows keep changin and den re pearing
    oh dhere dem lookin again
    must be the kaleidoscope
    in the interface making em do dat
    in rad time

    incarnating
    what will happen here

    #113369

    dom
    Participant

    @Jamiebarter and this is his Reply #112840

    My take? All of the “evidence” isn’t in yet of course, but on present showing I regard the claim as unlikely although I am magnanimously giving the benefit of the doubt for the sake of argument. And again, some of my earlier points/ queries from page 2 about the point of it all, the meaning and the message (check Replies # 112488 and 112533) remain unanswered, for fear of being “pulled off the boat” or whatever; plus you & I (though not Hugh and me) are regarded with suspicion as somewhat trollish characters apparently. Sometimes!

    Cynical as in doubtful.

    #113382

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    @dom :

    Dat was den. Dis is now.
    Obladee. Obladah. And I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together …

    Cynical as in doubtful.
    Doubtful — but given benefit of, as in: prepared to suspend judgement pending being able to review all/ more of the relevant data, including responses concerning consecration/ banishment not being carried out before and/ or after, and answers in regard of any precautions in general taken against possession/ obsession on the Astral plane as recommended, for example, by none other than A.C..
    Still not fully answered, I imagine, for fear of being “pulled off the boat” (whatever that metaphor might finally mean). Or, Whatever. The point I was originally making was that Shiva seemed prepared to suspend judgement a bit further — not really “cynical” then, as you originally inferred.
    Dom, would it be uncharitable or indeed cynical for me to postulate the conclusion that rather than further challenge Michael on his claims by yourself, you were happy instead to not only observe developments from a safe distance from the sidelines, but in addition had it in mind to attempt to actively stir things up by “rattling the cage” into a possible stand-off/ good old slap-to confrontation? Uncharitable — or perhaps just cynical?

    @shiva :

    You do not have to have an illness or discord. That’s for us aged, sensitive, olf folks … or younger folks who have system or two that is already week.
    I’m not exactly a spring chicken any longer myself!

    Behind all this is perception of “realty” and consciousness (Shen) itself. You mentioned alteration in space/time, and I would be interested in reading about one of them … the most interesting one, of course.
    Rather difficult to put this sort of thing into words as I’m sure you must appreciate, Shiva. Give me some time. And perhaps a little bit of space. (I’m OK for now for the space-time continuum…)

    oN Joy

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    #113388

    dom
    Participant

    @jamiebartter

    Dom, would it be uncharitable or indeed cynical for me to postulate the conclusion that rather than further challenge Michael on his claims by yourself

    I gave my opinions yes. Manson and Sutherland on birth certificate etc but yes I accept that he’s working on it all still. Let it happen. No rush.

    #113389

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    Manson and Sutherland on birth certificate etc but yes I accept that he’s working on it all still. Let it happen. No rush.

    I wonder whether it’s going to come with an Appendix ?

    N Joy

    #112559

    elitemachinery
    Participant

    @runelogix Thanks for listening.

    @shiva said:

    I suspect this vision was Atmadarshana, the vision of God, face-to-face, and it’s attributed to Kether. It comes rolling down Atu II to impinge upon Tiphareth (where it can be perceived as a vision and a (telepathic) voice.

    I think this is exactly right. I will talk more about this God figure later, but in brief he was powerful and non-human and had no face. He was huge and wide and his voice was deep and ominous sounding. He was scary but i felt safe with my HGA close by. I felt no love from this figure. Just power. I felt like I was experiencing a hologram from another dimension…more later.

    I have been familiar with my HGA since 1984 and Edwin’s system made it easy to contact the HGA for thousands of people. Anyone can do it by closing their eye and walking into the cave.

    My HGA’s name is John and although we don’t interact much (my fault–I currently use TM because it’s easy) I trust he is always there looking over me and putting things in front of me. But there are times when he really makes his presence known. For example in January 2010 when I discovered the key and the riddle, I could feel him strongly pushing me to “get it.”

    I hadn’t talked to John since discovering the key. But I had made the changes necessary, left the adult biz, and recently moved into a beautiful new condo on the hill above Pattaya beach. It was huge and private. A short walk to a quiet beach and a short motorbike ride into the biggest brothel in the world. My space was quiet and pristine. And living alone allowed me to dive farther into the work and make my own hours.

    In early January 2011 after having settled in for a month or so I began taking the blog more seriously again. On January 10, 2011 I posted the “about” section of the blog. You can read it here:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110301174132/http://www.aleisterinwonderland.com/about/

    [NOTE: if the above link doesn’t work simply go to archive.org and search for aleisterinwonderland.com/about]

    -begin excerpt-

    “All my life I have been perplexed by the question, ‘Who am I?’ I have suffered as one who truly did not understand the quagmire his life had become. Until recently, my life has a been a conundrum with few answers.”

    “As one who has explored the world of New Age religions and cults, I have usually chuckled when someone claimed to have been a well-known or famous figure in a past life. I’ve most often doubted it; and I have never before claimed to be as much.”

    “But the evidence in this this case is too strong to ignore.”

    “Had it been my belief that I was some other known or unknown figure in my past life, I would surely keep my thoughts to myself. But given the vast amount of research and interest in the life and work of Aleister Crowley, and the nature of his work, I believe it to be both my true will and duty to share this information.”

    “Please bear with me as I unveil the riddle of who I am to myself and others.”

    -end excerpt-

    My work process always involved me sitting on my bed with laptop and typing away as I referenced books and notes.

    On or around January 15th, as I was working, John my HGA showed up to my left and made his presence known in my minds eye. I didn’t need to close my eyes to see him or feel him. And I never looked directly at him as it’s an astral thing. But I could see/feel him next to me and we had a chat on the mental level without me actually talking out loud. After getting familiar again he stuck around for over a week and mostly would be behind me and to the left or behind me and over my bed as I worked. The HGA’s (as Edwin explains) are non-judgmental and give off an enormous amount of love and protection. So I felt very safe.

    It was until a few days later probably around January 20th that this Aiwass God like figure appeared. I had been feeling a large spacecraft hovering over my building at night. I never physically saw it but I could see it hovering and moving about on the astral, sort of like when you can feel and see someone standing behind a closed door. It was a huge long rectangular flat spacecraft. It was also completely silent and I was very sure that it was completely invisible to anyone else. It would hover closely over my building at night while I worked or slept. It was during this time that this God figure showed up. This would’ve been around Jan 20-22, 2011.

    During these couple of weeks of work (approx Jan 10 to Jan 24, I would still go out for meals every day, sometimes for a beer, usually getting extra food so I didn’t have to go out as often. So I was interacting with the normal world daily and felt fine. But as things developed I was getting a little wobbly toward the end, and felt that I could use some rest and an adjustment to tighten some screws in me head. Other than beer, my experience was 100% drug free.

    On a few nights I even had a girlfriend over or went to a lady bar. But usually only after an intense section of work was complete and I needed a break.

    I have all my notes and receipts from this time but due to the chaos that ensued and leaving town quickly I still haven’t looked at them. I will do my best to reconstruct the exact order of how things transpired as I open this box of stuff.

    As I continued blogging, another important post I wrote was a tribute to Kenneth Grant. I began writing the post on or around Jan 15-16 and published it on Jan 18th. I did not know that Mr. Grant had just died on Jan 15th (no one did until his passing was announced in February, two weeks later.) I was frustrated in my efforts to contact him and wanted to talk about it. The post came out very long and sounding a bit like a goodbye to an old friend.

    The post is called “The Sound of Silence” and you can read it here:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110324235724/http://www.aleisterinwonderland.com/2011/01/18/the-sound-of-silence-kenneth-grant

    -begin excerpt-

    I decided four months ago to contact Kenneth Grant with my claim. I thought it fair to give him a heads up seeing that he was so helpful to me at the end of my last life and has done such great work to continue my legacy and teachings.

    I began to investigate the best way to reach him and decided that Michael Staley was his number one man. I got a hold of Mr. Staley and I must say he was very kind and gracious. He gave me an address to send a letter to Mr. Grant.

    I wanted to get the letter off fast as I would be leaving the country soon. I sent it on my way to the airport in Los Angeles in September of 2010. Please forgive me Mr. Grant for the weight and size of my package. It must have weighed two pounds and was filled with a hastily written cover letter and copies of photos and documents I believed would interest him and prove my case.

    I addressed him as Mr. Grant and gently told him that I believed I was his man, at one point saying, “I believe I made you a promise, sir. That I would get in touch with you at some point when I could.”

    I do believe I made him that promise. And it if it turns out to be true then I am a man of my word and have kept that promise.

    While I was sure that Mr. Grant must have received a lot of these letters over the years, surely no one had the evidence I had? I packed a shirt and tie on my travels just in case Mr. Grant invited me to England for a cup of tea. I know, I know you’re laughing. I am too. It’s okay. I like to make people laugh.

    Since then I have dropped a note or two to Michael Staley via email and at one point shared an anagram poem I had just authored using my name (in the hopes he would forward it to Mr. Grant.)

    Silence.

    No word from Kenneth Grant.

    I want to be clear in acknowledging Kenneth Grant in the work he has done in the promotion and nurturing of AC’s work and legacy. He obviously has a deep commitment to the integrity of his role. He is clearly a man who loves AC and has devoted his life to Thelema and the Great Work (among his many other works.)

    But humor me a little. If what I say is true and I am the reincarnation of Aleister Crowley, how am I supposed to let you know?

    -end excerpt-

    As I was finishing up writing the post my HGA suggested the “Sound of Silence” so I added the title and a video of the song performed live by Simon & Garfunkel.

    And the people bowed and prayed
    To the neon god they made
    And the sign flashed out its warning
    In the words that it was forming
    And the sign said, “The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls”
    And whispered in the sounds of silence

    ..to be continued.

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