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    dom
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    @ignant666

    Never was one for these dominance and submission games in daily life.
    This “taking orders from a boss” thing was something i was pretty successful in avoiding in my working life, and i don’t see what you find so wonderful about it.

    Nice frame, you were an employee, you didn’t run the organization, you took orders, ok you were empowered by ‘those above’ but they gave you orders and if you didn’t execute those orders then you didn’t get paid. Speaking of which I found the quote by Crowley. First two pages of Chapter 14 in Regardie’s Eye in the Triangle. Here Regardie describes AC’s lack of income from his brilliant writing. he mentions his (AC’s) destitution in 1919 and Crowley’s disdain for employment. Regardie then quotes the following from AC’S The Gospel according to St. Bernard Shaw;

    I am bound to say that personally I am bound to regard a leisured class as the only possible field for the highest types of wheat to grow. The socialistic idea that everyone should work menially for an hour or so every day would check the entire race. Any mechanical labour degrades;it is necessary that it should be performed, and must therefore always produce a degraded class. To equalize men in this manner is to bring them down to the level of the dock labourer…..

    Certainly I never could have arrived even at my present stage if I had to spend a couple of hours a day in cleaning out somebody’s drains. For one thing all the higher kinds of work require a fineness and a delicacy both of manual and mental energy such that a life of leisure is absolutely necessary to their proper functioning.

    Interesting, this sort of attitude drives people to become politicians particularly right wing race-baiting politicians. Nuff said really.

    If that verse of non-prose from The Book Of Lies needs explaining to you, you don’t understand much about AC or his work, however many hundred times you may have read the Confessions. It is about the topic we have been discussing, silencing the chattering ape within, and sex magick as a means of doing so

    I can’t really do that as I’m walking down the street, not in the UK anyway.

    . Along with martial artists, surviving bicycle messengers, sex magickians, and mountaineers, another group of folks familiar with “being lost in the Charioting”, with a state where “it is no longer Thou that doeth it, but It that doeth itself through thee”, are musicians.

    ….. and people doing sports activity, listening to music, watching a good movie or in a job i.e. engaged in some task “lost in the zone” yes.

    @jamiebarter

    Dom, there’s no sign this ‘right walking’ was unique to or originated from PJC. Apart from which, as usual you have omitted to provide any page references for source. In this connection, you also gave “metamorphoses” as an example? – I have no idea what you are referring to there although presumably shape-shifting is involved. Care to expound?

    Can’t you just read Liber Null? It’s online it’s free, it’s free of waffle, not a long book and their are short chapter early one that give you all of the info?

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    #110841

    Jamie J Barter
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    Can’t you just read Liber Null? It’s online it’s free, it’s free of waffle, not a long book and their are short chapter early one that give you all of the info?

    That’s appalling grammar and spelling there, dom, even allowing for haste & accompanying typos. Still we’re all in the same boat as far as that’s concerned, aren’t we?

    Really now, why can’t you just provide the reference(s) – is that arduous task so terribly difficult for you to do?

    At one time, I knew both texts intimately in researching W&TW (and no, they’re both not totally “free of waffle” either, although that’s not one of their main faults) but it must be over 20 years since I last looked at them in depth (= that shows you how invaluable they must be, doesn’t it?) And I have no recollection of any substantial section there on the subject of “metamorphoses”.

    It doesn’t help there’s no index of course, but it’s your citation after all and my time is just as valuable as yours (maybe even more). So I don’t think I’m being unreasonable in my request. Actually hang on a goddamn minute, it isn’t me who’s being unreasonable at all. Nearly everybody else manages to do it (give sources) – wellread even goes the other way & does so in abundance (although I don’t know whose worse at stubbornly refusing to answer fairly straightforward basic questions, you or he – it’s a pretty close call).

    So how about it?
    N Joy

    #110842

    dom
    Participant

    Their their calm down lol.

    Metamorphosis p16/17/18

    Right way of walking p34

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    #110844

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    Thank you. At last. Sheese!

    I don’t have time to look at it now but may do so later. (No promises mind).

    And anyway, isn’t it getting awfully near your bedtime now?

    Lol w/ Rotfl,
    N Joy

    #110848

    ignant666
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    We haven’t hear from young david in a bit.

    I am concerned- do we think his boss beat him particularly badly yesterday? Or is he out selling pencils due to his failure to execute the orders he has been given by that august person?

    To quote a former Goo-Roo (there are so many) of his, “Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out“, dude.

    I haven’t had work that resembles your Dickensian description since finishing my BA, and often had work done on my own terms before that. Perhaps formal edjumication, aka book larnin’, and/or useful skills, may be more useful than you had thought?

    It is also possible that david has succeeded in engaging in coitus with the universe while walking down the street, and is waiting by the mailbox for the Ippy diploma Shiva promised was due for such an accomplishment.

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    #110850

    Shiva
    Participant

    Ig666: … the Ippy diploma Shiva promised …

    That offer expired after 24 hours. We don’t have all day to sit around waiting for tangible results.

    For the next seven days we are offering Magister Templi diplomas, suitable for framing, upon the acquisition of 24 consecutive hours worth of no-mind, wu-wei, Tao-union, Nirvana, or its equivalent.

    #110851

    dom
    Participant

    It is also possible that david has succeeded in engaging in coitus with the universe while walking down the street, and is waiting by the mailbox

    Nope just waiting for you to reply to the points i raised in my #110838 post.

    This ridiculous framing of what I’m saying into some sort of sado-masochist nonsense. I’m talking work, love and knowledge.

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    #110855

    Jamie J Barter
    Participant

    This ridiculous framing of what I’m saying into some sort of sado-masochist nonsense.
    No — suitable for framing!

    I’m talking work, love and knowledge.
    What, in that order?

    N Joy

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