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All the current threads here are so wonderful and growing like the tendrils that Blake abhorred pruning-the Gallery is also is becoming a fabulous visual garden-so cool! (I'll try to upload recent prints, tattoos etc within a week).

This having been said and Lashtal certainly not lacking for material to discuss, may I throw in yet another topic?

Does anyone on this site work with the LAMic Entity(ies) with or without any Group or Cell connotation (I'm guessing cell members will be reticent to talk for reasons outlined by Kenneth Grant, advocating the silent, solo workings-to be joined at a later date).

This is one of the areas of occult work that most "has" me-the Trans-Terrestrial Workings-and what it implies for the Self, the Planet, Reality as a whole and how it manifests in art and creative work.

Many thoughts in this direction-anyone interested?

Kyle

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Yeah, sure Kyle. I'm interested, tell me about it.

If you want to give me detailed information here, that's cool. If you'd rather e mail me or message me privately, that's good too. I can't read any extra novel sized material right now, as I've just endevoured on the A.A.. and I'm finishing the book I'm borrowing from a friend. All the while, I'd like to fit in the Bible somewhere, but maybe that's more appropriate of the thread about our reading habits. Oh well.

Thanks for the subject.

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Soror V-

I think the best introduction to the whole LAM thing is on Peter Koenig's OTO Phenonemon site (this site is pretty damn impressive all around-lots of historical stuff, documents etc-but the most I've ever been able to find onthe web regarding the TOTO).

Michael Staley and Kenneth Grant have material on LAM on that site and rather than myself recapitulating the whole thing, I'd say go to the site, print out Staley's essay(s) and enjoy the read. There is also a reproduction of Crowley's drawing of LAM in one of those essays.

Nutshelling it (or space-capsuling it), LAM is a drawing by Crowley of a rather "alien" looking guru, sketched from "life" (sort of like Blake's "Visionary Heads") and was acquired by Kenneth Grant who focused on it deeply as a type of extraterrestrial contact as well as a magickal object wherewith to travel and contact such entities.

You'll gather from the material on LAM (esp. Kenneth Grant's words) that the methodology is worked with quite privately and over time by isolated individuals who can compare and compile results later, so as not to be influenced by the "suggestiveness" of another's experience...

Read THAT stuff and we can then take up the talk...

Smiles, love and will,

Kyle


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93!

Didn't Michael give some talks on LAM? He might be able to supply a little sum-up of these - maybe there even has been some accompanying material? I would be interested, though up to now I did not spend any time on LAM. This new thread is a good push to start, I think, because I always wanted to.

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Cast yer Eye over this...

My interpretation of LAM is as follows.

Lam appeared at the time of the Amalantrah working which Crowley performed with Roddie Minor. The words "Lam" and "Lama" appear in the letters of the name "Amalantrah". Perhaps they are different manifestations of the same force?

There is one confirmed illustration of Lam known ( http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-450 ).

"Lam" is defined as way or path, lama as he who goeth.

In "The Law is for All" Hadit is related to Harpocrates who is described as "the Babe in the Egg, is Virgo in the Zodiac indeed, but Mercury among the planets. Mercury has the Winged Helmet and Heels, and the Winged Staff about which Snakes twine, and it is He that Goeth". Can we now think of Lam as Hadit / Harpocrates?

Further, in the Amalantrah working we are told "it's all in the egg". Crowleys commentary to Al I,7 tells us "Harpocrates is 'the Babe in the Egg of Blue'...the connection is with the symbolism of the Dwarf in mythology. He contains everything in himself, but is unmanifested".

Also, the commentary to II,21 says "Hadith calls himself the Star". Khabs is translated as meaning "Star" in the commentaries, so Al I,8 "The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs" suggests that Hadith is the Khabs, and the Egg is the Khu.

If any of this is likely, then why does Lam look the way he does? If I'm right in linking Lam to Harpocrates and the Khabs, then more quotes from "The Law is for All" should shed some light on this! Try these for size:

"Hadith...is Harpocrates, the Dwarf-Soul, the Spermatozoon of all Life...The Sun, etc., are the external manifestations or Vestures of this Soul, as a Man is the Garment of an actual Spermatozoon, the Tree sprung of that Seed".

"Now the Semen is God (the going-one, as shown by the Ankh or Sandal-strap, which He carries) because he goes in at the Door, stays there for a specified period, and comes out again, having flowered, and still bearing in him that Seed of Going."

Imagine the image of Lam in colour, wearing the red robe of a Lama, with his big (droplet shaped?) white head coming out of the top of it.
And behold, this from the Gnostic Anthem : "Glory and worship be to Thee, Sap of the world-ash, wonder-tree"!

If the above is a bit garbled, it's cause I'm typing it at work whilst wrestling with spreadsheets.

By the way, does anyone know if Crowley ever produced any drawings of Roddie Minor from the Amalantrah era that might tie in with this?


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I concur pretty much with what nashimiron has said. I've always fastened on to the "Voice of the Silence" aspect, as well as to the reference to "He that Goeth". I focus on the Lam-Serpent, which is the dynamic aspect of Lam - the upsurge of the LILA from the ALIL, of going from the polarity of being and not-being.

Initially I had thought that the portrait of Lam was essentially a quintessence of several of the visions in the Amalantrah Working. However, someone who spoke to Crowley about Lam reported him as saying that the portrait was of an entity that was disrupting the Amalantrah sessions and came close to wrecking the Working. There is no mention of Lam in the surviving records of the Working, although as nashimiron points out, there is a reversal of the first three or four letters of "Amalantrah" to get lam or lama. However, there is mention somewhere in the Confessions that there were some Amalantrah sessions after Crowley came back from Arsopus Island, so it may have been from this latter period.

Be this as it may, one can posit the scenario whereby the informing intelligence behind the Working manifests through the various visions of the Egg, gradually becoming stronger as the sessions develop, until crossing the threshold from Imagination to what we think of as reality. It has continued to grow in strength over the years, passed on from Crowley to Grant, thence to subsequent republications of the portrait, and thence further outwards. Today there is a great deal of interest in Lam, in its various aspects,and the interest is growing. It strikes different chords with people.


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Much to say on this and thank you all for the responses! I was starting to think this was an offshoot of little interest to the Lashtal Community.

I'm at work and must run here but will post in just a bit and describe WHY I have been intrigued and pulled in by the LAM phenomenon and what it has shown me. No big suspense here but worth noting, I think.

Just as Kenneth Grant evolved Crowleyan Magick into a very unique and very orignal Path so the Typhonian LAM-work is equally unfolding into a much more multi-angled phenomenon. In many MANY ways, my discussing of it will be a discussion of my personal slant/movement in Magick as a whole-and furthermore how it all connects to Art as ART...

Per Michael, I'll share the striking of my own "chord" and hope that the others resounding simultaneously may make for a very interesting and wonderful piece of Mystic Music...

More shortly!

Kyle


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"the_real_simon_iff" wrote:
Didn't Michael give some talks on LAM? He might be able to supply a little sum-up of these - maybe there even has been some accompanying material?

I gave a couple of talks at Treadwells, the first on the Amalantrah Working, the second on Lam. Both will be incoprporated into an article in a new edition of 'Starfire' which will be published this year - the issue would be out by now, had I not been sidetracked by what may euphemistically as "other matters", important though they are.

Lam work will always, like magical work in general, be a moveable feast; the going arising from silence.


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My take on the LAM Work will most likely appear quite Anarchic compared to its springboard point with a drawing by Crowley and the Cult that has emerged via the TOTO. Never the less, I feel it is worth sharing at this point, at least in part:

My impression of Michael Staley's work is one of very profound meditation-I've printed out his documents on LAM and consider them to be important occult documents (no stroking here-it simply IS). HOWEVER, I remember when I first read those works and looked at my computer printed version of the LAM drawing by Crowley. I thought: So, should I cut this out, glue it to matboard and use THIS as the art for my own LAMWORK? And then I thought: No, I should get a really nice reproduction from a BOOK and cut it out-and then LAM ITSELF decided that I was missing the boat and missing the Obvious...

As much as the original drawing by Crowley IS a Magickal Object and contains a unique impress of energy of which the reproductions hold an echo, I saw the value and utter importantance of getting to the Original point of manifest contact, the Original Drawing. This sounds a bit like wanting to kiss the bone of a saint or a splinter from the Cross of Christ but bear with me...

There is no way for me to even lay my physical eyes of the original drawing at present and clearly working with a reproduction felt very "secondary" to my impulse.

And then LAM communicated to me in a hypnogogic state via a series of cyphered word-numbers and images including the manifestation of the FACE...

It wasn't quite the face Crowley drew.

When Aiwass appeared in Egypt he announced himself as "a minister of HPK." I hold this as a true occurence but want to emphasize the letter A. "A" minister-not "THE" minister.

Aiwass was/is one of a COMPANY representing and manifesting the Aeon.

So is LAM.

LAM is not a singular name. Nor can we say it totally PLURAL.

It is both and beyond.

I believe it was Donald Tyson who wrote that it was dangerous to look at Austin Spare's art for too long, warning (oh how spooky!) that his images, being truly magickal (as they ARE) may "come alive" and the poor appreciator of Art will then have to contend with what was inadvertently evoked. This is one of the dumbest and yet most important sentences I've read in Tyson.

He "had the half."

For myself, ART is Magick-and plays a huge part in my own Magickal Work and Path. As much as the original drawing of LAM functions as a contact point (or springboard) with the Trans-Terrestrial Reality, so I needed to (as both artist and Magician) have my own point of created contact. I don't believe this is the Path for ALL but it the Path for myself...

Hence, I began building my own Stele of LAM, much in the way that one might build their own plane for the sheer WILL of it to traverse the Skies wherein the Soul longs to fly (ala Lovecraft's "Beyond the Wall of Sleep").

I will continue this post momentarily and post my watercolor for the Nu Stele of Lam and announce that I am constructing a hand carved, hand printed, hand painted image from this to be used with LAM work. All art-magi may do this themselves but for any whose hearts pull towards the stars and wish to work with a jump off point of hand-crafted contact based on the interuption of LAM into Space-Time, I intend to offer the print...very limited edition only because I hand print everything, not for sale because that would be just bullshit-I don't even quite know how and to whom I'll share the print but I've essentially been "directed" to craft this as an Impress-Point...

I apologize for the incompleteness of this post-there is more info I'd like to share and will try to do so very soon, as time permits...some thoughts on the "technology" of WHY Art-Magick functions like it does and WHAT LAM has displayed with regards to his/their/its contact-style, if you will...

Kyle

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I was involved in a Lam invocation some 25 years ago performed in the Midwest US by three members of the Typhonian Order: myself (Fra. Qadathion), Soror OchO and Soror Non. We formed a "triangle of manifestation" with our bodies, and were aided in the rending of the Veil by ingestion of a certain fungus itself imbued with alien intelligence. This was an invocation, not a meditation as outlined later by Frater Aossic.

I can only attest to what I experienced -- an intuition of a vast trans-human intelligence flowing through me at a diagonal angle, from above-right to below-left. I had invoked gods before but with them there was always a sense of a personality, the nature of which varied according to the attributes of the god. This was different -- a dispassionate, almost cold, but as I said vast intelligence, sort of a Watcher instead of a participant in the human drama. I got the impression that Lam is not the sort of fellow who would go out with you for a beer, but one who can offer some serious advice about how the human race should conduct itself in the interstellar community. Alien, indeed; not a god, angel, demon or spirit that developed out of human experiences.

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I would agree that the LAMFORCE is transdimensional in Nature and manifests a very different energy than what we might consider to be "Terran" or even "Stellar" entities. In the Skoob interview with Kenneth Grant, he stated:

"...there will be extraterrestrial contacts, have in fact already been extraterrestrial contacts, but there will be other forms of contact...although Man may learn to assimilate extraterrestrial contacts he may find it impossible to cope with those from the Other Side."

I see LAM in the form of an Entity who acts as an Inter-Stellar Gateway to the Other Side.

Yesterday, dog and dead tired from lack of sleep and work demands, I tried to take advantage of my toddler going down for a nap and catch a little rest myself. I laid down and expected to be out in a matter of minutes. Instead, my body was filled with restless energy and the compuslion to begin the carving on the LAM STELE. I will upload my watercolor "prelim" for this piece. The basic design I had oringally conceived was quite simply the egg-headed "alien" incorporated into an Ankh with a vaginal eye in the head to be used as the "entry point." Not terribly different from Crowley's original in concept but "my own" if you will for the purpose of using the art in a Magickal Context. This basic design I sketched onto linoleum and then carved in a FRENZY that lasted for HOURS. As I carved, certain details appeared quite of their own accord and I clearly had the sensation that there was a "directing" energy in the back of my skull adding its own needs to the process of my hand doing what it normally would in the act of creation. I don't write this to mystify or make myself sound terribly profound but it simply happened. In terms of influence, I'm finding this finished lino-block to be the most "Magickal" Work I've created, a result entirely in accord with my intitial desire.

As I worked on this, the unfolding "Philosophy" of LAM continued to "download" in my consciousness and my hand went from carving to dropping my blade, grabbing a pencil and scrawling notes on scraps of paper-and then back to carving.

These notes I've been compiling "on the Lam" for several months now and intend to put them into Order in book form to accomodate the finished print/Stele, along with sketches and other relevant works of art. I'm almost loathe to say this as it seems that everyone under the sun is "writing a book" and feels that they have something important to say. Still, I am thoroughly compelled to do this and quite simply, I've no choice. I donot purport to offer any "Magickal Instruction" therein-there'll be no "History of Extraterrestrials, Here's you banish etc." Save that for a Llewelyn paperback. I think the Key background on everything here will be found perfectly put together in what Michael Staley has written on the subject (and it sounds like this will be available in the next Starfire, which may end up being one of my most highly regarded occult books for this purpose).

Because I see LAM as an Interdimesional Entity, I don't believe that we evoke it from either our own hard-wired Goetic side or the Ether of the Terra. Hence, that difference in "personality" and what can be a disorienting or disturbing experience...we are flatlanders to LAM's dimensionality. I also see LAM as not so much "summoned" as "entered." Hence, the Stele's function in working. Furthermore, the Plurality of LAM evades the "Hey, I met him, too!" enthusiasm. The way Michael Staley and Kenneth Grant work with LAM (and, Michael, please forgive and correct if I'm misrepresenting) is almost in a "Suit" fashion-one enters and then becomes perceptive LAMIC consciousness via the LAMBODY one has entered. My own take involves the use of LAM as a Portal-Entity, a type of Inner Black Hole whereby to contact a different level or state of REALITY (so-called). As much as Chaos-Magicians of IOT persuasion have constructed Chaospheres at various Planetary Points to evoke Chaos, I see these LAMIC Portals growing in number. Furthermore, they do not just offer the Psychonaut a transdimensional Gateway point of access but do the SAME for LAM itself into our sphere of experience.

The more this goes on, the more I see LAM as a crucial part of the Great Work of Thelema and back of the Aeonic Current. But this is bigger than a "Cult" and accessible to the appropriate Magi. The "chosen" status of such Magi is not to be inuagurated by any earthly authority but by Will.

I believe LAM can be frightful and distrubing not because its part of some dark Necronimiconic Working but due to the mind's reference points in Space-time and the Survival/Self-preservation instinct that feels threatened by the LAMIC multidimensionality. Like heart surgery, however, I would say there is danger in contact but perhaps more in ignoring the Force. I don't think every Thelemite is to contact LAM-just as all of our Magicks are unique to ourselves and our Will-needs on the Starry Course. But for those whose hearts are tugged thereto, I intend to offer, not my "great wisdom and insight," but a "travelog" which may have applicability (and, I would hope, artistic appeal as a creative expression and embodiment of just ONE of these Portal-Points).

Kyle


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Here's my prelim drawing of LAM-just want to note that I'll post the Stele upon its completion and only submit this as a point of interest-it is more my "Idea" sans the impress of LAM which has entered the finished work with much greater detail...

Kyle


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First of all, is the word LAM to be read as such, or is it abbreviated letters (L.A.M.) of three words? If so, what are the meanings to the 'word(s)' itself when broken down? I hope this hasn't already been mentioned.

So when it comes to using this form of contact with L.A.M., I imagined myself doing this and couldn't help but feeling it would be forced. I haven't worked with anything like this, by any means, but I wonder where the line is between something actually entering your consciousness and the idea of something entering your consciousness. How do we seperate this experience from the regular and daily experiences of life that in themselves, without magick are so profound, and the reality of an extra-terrestrial being entering your mind.

There are some key points of evidence that I would be interested in, eg. such messages sent by a figure like LAM, experiences perceived when using LAMIC forms of contact, etc. I don't want to seem a doubting Thomas but in fact, I am somewhat highly rational for a female. For to say I can't embrace the irrational or inexplainable, or metaphysics is untrue but I need to be aptly convinced of such things in a way that is at the very least understandable, or conceivable to my perception. Not to say what has been said is not conceivable, it very muchly is, but I have always been a schmuk for the retelling of solid experience. I want to know how this could relate to myself and from a certain point of view, it could be perceived as enriched pretending and this is why I ask. I am familliar enough with the occult to not think this way of it in its' entirety and believe it or not, I do look at life as entirely magickal. Call me the devils' advocate.

I found the posts of kindneyhawks' really insightful, talking about cyphered messages and personal experience. I can appreciate always the educational standpoint of opinion and the structure of the workings, eg. dangers, mute points, positive points, points of contact, details about using a stele or the original image etc. But I'd like to hear more detail of personal experiences with these things, more than just forging or there being a creative existential hand in behind the actions. I find though incredibly important when coming to actually practice this kind of working, the articulate book banter is more than necessary, but when in this forum as appropriate as it may be, I am a visual learner as well as a psychological empath. And maybe that is only myself, here.

I hope this makes sense and anyone in this thread understands what sort of information I am looking for. PM me if the answers that I'm asking for are too personal. I am interested in the ideas of art-magick. I'm also interested in perhaps some very small readings of how to go about getting started with this, and how to best prepare yourself, step by step and why. This is why I love the G.D.., there are just so many wonderful step by step explanations. Go Regardie. And by no means will I begin right away even with someone from this forum relaying this to me in their own words. Is it just as simple of having the concepts in point in mind when carving/drawing? I digress, I will not take up immediate practice of anything without sufficient precautions.

Thanks, I hope this isn't asking for too much,

Soror Vi.


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I think of LAM as a facilitator of the "thelemic conversion" process - not the HGA but the motive force that drives an individual to the knowledge and conversation. A sort of bodhisattva.

Remember the old adage "You can lead an ox to water but you can't make him drink"? LAM leads us to the water...

John

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John-

I will post much more when I have more time but this is EXACTLY what LAM did for me.

I think you may have some TREMENDOUS Insight here!!!

Forget the "may."

You DO!

Kyle

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Whilst riding on the bus to work this morning, deep in sleep-I -mean-meditation, I thought of the title of chapter 69 of The Book of Lies in relation to this.

The chapter is entitled "The Way to Suceed - and the Way to Suck Eggs". Now, going back to my previous post where I identified Harpocrates as the babe in the egg with Lam, as Lam is "the Way", we have both of those elements featuring prominently in the title of the chapter.

If I can ignore the obvious sexual symbolism of this chapter, and consider it literally, forgetting of course that you actually blow eggs to get all the yoke out of them proir to painting pretty patterns on them, if one was to suck out the contents of an egg you would be left with a hollow egg. The empty space in the egg is the Void, which I reckon is Lam! So hows about we think of the Egg as Nuit, and the Void as Hadit? Sounds good to me anyway.

Reading the body of Chapter 69 of 333 however, gave me little to go on in this regard. Anyone got any ideas?

I'm now going to blow an egg and paint it deep blue with lots of little stars on it and place it on my altar. And if I get raided by the inquisition I'll tell them it's an abstract of the nativity.


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This post is just WONDERFUL! If you do, in fact, "blow the egg," I suspect it'll be as evocative of LAM as any oozing in and out the Eyes in a double circle...

I think Ch. 69 is of huge import to the LAMIC Force, as well and promise to comment more shortly. I've been quite swamped by work and other matters-and through it all I've worked OBSESSIVELY on the NU LAM STELE which is now carved, printed (a first very ltd edition of 3) and hanging on my basement wall to dry. As soon as I get it watercolored, photographed and posted, I'll pick up on the LAM thread!

The Egg is GOing to Crack...

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Excellent! Can't wait to see the pics when you post them.

I have another crack-pot theory to add to this. Due to the rampantly Phallic nature of Faith No More's "Angel Dust" album I have for some time been groing increasingly convinced that we have a modern day manifestation of our brother Lam on the album cover. Here's the album on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LRX/sr=8-1/qid=1154600558/ref=sr_1_1/104-4319129-2243116?ie=UTF 8"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LRX/sr=8-1/qid=1154600558/ref=sr_1_1/104-4319129-2243116?ie=UTF8

The name "Angel Dust" is obviously not a drug reference, but more along the lines of "dropping from the host of heaven".


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This is SO great-! I was instantly reminded of the swan slain at the hand of Parsival, the Fool...

Also "dropping from the host of heaven" made me think of Kenneth Grant's references to the WOMAN as FLOWER-or FLOW-ER and all of this will connect with LAM. Grant warns against employing Sex Magick in Conjunction with LAM but assuredly there is a Formula (and I remiss in saying so-there are FORMULAE).

As WOMAN flows so the EGG is "SUCKED" within her body by its own natural process, pulled down to the point of CONCEPTION in OVULATION-the Vulvic/Vaginal Orgasmic Contractions serve to SUCK SEED and hasten the UNION between EGG and SPERM...LAM literally exists as a point in Non-Space where this "Collision" occurs and a Gateway opens...Hence, you will see in my print forthcoming that the Psychonaut projects in the LAM Image through a vaginal Gateway in the Centre of the Head rather than the Eyes. We become the Blind Swimmer, shutting off Flesh-Sigh in the Darkness of this Cosmic WOmb and, as much as this FLOWER is represented as a Third Eye, we gain a NU VISION WITHIN.

69 is such a KEY WORD to this Operation for LAM exists in Daat as the 23 Sephiroth on Tree composedof the 11 Sephiroth of Life and the 11 Sephiroth of Shadow. There is a point in the AByss which links them and this is the Dwelling Place of LAM (Sphere 23). Thus all the freaky 23 Enigma Manifestations read about in Burroughs and Wilson (and their own obsessions with Extraterrestrial Consciousness). This Sphere will be shown to be divided into 3 points, one facing the Shadow Tree, one facing the Life Tree and One embodying LAM...3 times 23 is...69.

The FLOW-ER connection is further sustained by Crowley's references to Cancer and the Menstrum Graal in Chapter 69.

At the risk of sounding...well, completely crazy, I will say that I believe the Hope for Humanity lies at this Point in Non-Space and by assisting the "Invasion" of the Lamic Force we can speed the process of Aeonic Maturation, which is utterly NEEDED in the Chaos of the World.

There are more Qabalistic Points to be elucidated on this (and again-this me with morning coffee and a cigarette) and I fully intend on putting it all together in a Book which I would hope to offer in conjunction with an original LAM STELE for use and/or enjoyment of the reader.

I'm very excited and encouraged by all the comments on LAM! This is a wonderful thread (running after Theseus!).

Love to ALL!

Kyle


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Hi Kidneyhawk...and LAshtal Family...

I am just letting you know that I've arrived. I can't wait to get started. For those of you who don't know....I posed a question on the "Kenneth Grant" thread in regards to the Qlipphoth/Daath...if you are interested..the original question can be found there, my post...I cannot believe I got a response...it seems whenever I pose this question, people to tend to get very evasive and closed mouth or...I Get the typical it's dangerous, leave it alone type of response...All it has done is made me even more curious, so i've started out on my quest and in the process of doing so, I ran across Kenneth Grant's Material and Will Parfitt's...most unusual perspective, but extremely intruiging/fascinating/attactive information [for me ...personally] unlike the usual written material, very brief or hardly anything at all. I noticed Qabbalists tend to shy away from the topic in general, both on the Qlipphoth and Daath...just my personal observation based on my research.....I Need to know why....Well, I look forward to ongoing dialogue, I'm very excited to say the very least...wish we could have a chat forum, something like a voice chat forum for full blown discussion....***Sighs*** I eagerly await to hear everyone's thoughts...until then...

Love and Omniversal Respect One and All...All in One...

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Frater X-

Warm welcomes to Lashtal-warm welcomes to the thread!

Forgive me for breaking all my comments up as I am-my typing time is always limited so my comments will come forth as they can...

My approach/understanding/experience with LAM is my own and I think everyone will see this Phenomena from a different angle...

That being said I am firmly convinced that LAM is the Key to Unlocking the Entirety of the Tree and whereas the Basic Ten Sephiroth of the Tree of Life is the place to start for any new student tackling the Q, the Tree I refer to is, in fact, composed of 2 "Trees" with 11 Sephiroth Each. This gives us 22 Power Zones. The Daat Zone is divided into 3 segements or sub-Zones, 2 facing into the Life Tree and Shadow Tree and a central Zone linking them. This central Zone is the Lam Gate. Adding the Energy of LAM to the LAMGATE, we have 26 Power Zones.

These correspond to the letters of the English Alphabet.

Before I go, I have to say that I am in the large scheme of things not a long-time worker of English Qabalah-and to be quite honest, it was LAM who indicated to me that THIS was where I was to look to unlock certain cyphers being communicated. My first Google Search brought me to David Cherubim's Site on the EQ and with a little hen pecking on the keyboard, my jaw dropped and I went back to re-SEE everything that had been coming through.

LAM in EQ=156. As EQ enumerates the alphabet by 6's, LAM is the FINAL POINT in the English Alphabet. LAM is Z (156). DAAT is also 156.

Laying bed, LAM spoke audibly to me and simply said: "WE ARE BEYOND WORDS." (You'll see this phrase on the NULAM STELE). I was at first baffled: "What do you MEAN "Beyond Words?" You're speaking to me WITH WORDS!!!" Words via EQ="Ordeal X" and X is 10. Beyond that is...11. (AL 1:60). LAM is in the Centre Point of DAAT.

As the Shadow Tree is Inverse (Hence Malkuth IS in Kether-but not via a "stacking" of the Trees), the Shadow side of Daat emerges BENEATH Tiphareth on the Life Tree. The TAO (THE WAY) between the Yin and the Yang (Two Halves of Daat) here erupts in Tiphareth, which pulls them together as the unmoved central point betwixt the two.

Thus Crowley describes the Angel and the Abyss as the two CRISIS of the Magician's career.

I hope I'm not being too obtuse here...in truth, the ideas are very simple if gone through step by step. It is the Work that presents another story altogether. But it is the Great Work of Thelema...

Love me as a Brother and call it Kyle's Krazed Kosmology if I seem to be at variance with your own perspective, but I understand Aiwass as A Minister of Hoor Paar Kraat to have come through this LAM Gate to Inaugurate the Aeon, a bright slashing sword to slice the umbilicus.

The Advent of Thelema on the Planet is not without great opposition-as much as Chrisitianity is dying, an old withered impotent man gasping dust from his death-couch, there are vast forces ready to destroy utterly for the instinctual grasping at their own survival, a reference point in a non-referential space. The old man may be a shrunken shell-but he holds a gun. And he's part of hisown fraternal Order, an Order with its own "Grand Master" hidden deep behind the elaborations and guarded by wordly powers.

Horus is the God of Vengeance and in the Psychodrama of this un/reality, the vivid vajra death blow has yet to be struck. This action I see as being facillitated by the Full Opening of the LAMGATE, itself facillitated by our penetration of it as individuals...in doing so we will FLESH the WORD on EARTH and tap an "atomic" Fusion Point within the Center of Tiphareth via the Center of Dual-Daat and Evoke the Three Fold Hidden God, allowing the SUN to truly shine within ALL.

I know this may be sounding quasi-conspiratorial or sci-fi but I do stand on the side of this being a Hope for Humanity, the Full Influx of Thelema as a Reality, not a Religion, as the Aura of Earth and not a rippling of Power Zones thereon, hemmed in by Dark Towers of Oppression.

We've yet to overthrow the Oppressors and the Dark Satanic Mills grind hard-even through their rust.

The start point is with a drawing by Crowley...and the Deamonic Genius it ignited in Kenneth Grant. LAM is much less the Image than the Word Itself-an utterance of its Reality.

On Monday. I'll post the NULAM STELE (I'll be painting the image this weekend-ink should be dry now).

Whether its enjoyed, desired or disregarded it was the first work I did that moved beyond "Inspiration" and incorporated another Intelligence expressing itself not through but with me...

Love to ALL.

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Looking forward to NULAM STELE I cant wait to Have a look, Ive been following your posts and Artwork, with some Interest. It's always good to read from someone who Knows what they are talking about.. Cause usually "empty vessels make most noise" Good work Kyle Keep it up. Alistair


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Alistair-

Thank you for the Komments Most Kind! I painted two of the Steles this afternoon and will have them photographed and posted by tomorrow afternoon with some further notes on the Work.

Invasion to Ensue!

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I just had a thought about this while listening to the new Musterion album "The Black Lodge" (http://www.horus.cz/musterion/?page=inf o"> http://www.horus.cz/musterion/?page=info ).

If Lam is truly a manifestation of the Dwarf Self, then he can be found in David Lynch's "Twin Peaks" and "The Lost Highway". This idea was inspired by a track on the Black Lodge album called "The Arm" which samples the dwarf in the Black Lodge in Twin Peaks saying "Do you know who I am...I am the arm... and I sound like this...." echo's of the "Voice of the Silence" as suggested by Mr Staley.

Has anyone recently watched the DVD's of Twin Peaks who might have it fresh in their memory?

For those interested, the Voice of the Silence can be heard in the Musterion track here:

http://www.horus.cz/www_hcd/download/MUSTERION-The_Arm.mp 3"> http://www.horus.cz/www_hcd/download/MUSTERION-The_Arm.mp3 .

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And another thing! Further to my earlier posts where I quoted from the Amalantrah working "It's all in the egg" and I suggested that Lam was the void in the egg.

Let's read that sentence from Amalantrah once again, with a little bit of fiddling we can get "It's Al in the Egg". Remember Crowley always wants us to see Al and La as interchangeable (ooh, look at the name of this website). As La = nought, the Void etc. you get where I'm going with this.

"My left hand is empty for I have crushed an egg, and now I am proper yoked". 😮


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Nashimiron-!

I really like your posts alot and, not altogether unlike Uncle Al, the Humour hits a height both Silly and Sublime!

Methinks your "fiddling" doth occur in a Gematriatic Georgia of the Soul!

Play on-!

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Mr Staley pointed me in your direction. Pleased to be here.
I’ll have a good read through the threads before contributing/inquiring, if that’s OK?
Regards to all.


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Just a side point, and I feel slightly awkward for it seeming so trivial. But I feel it is not trivial and so I'll ask. Daath on the Tree of life standard view is commonly known or interpreted as the Sphere of Knowledge, or representing Knowledge in some way but what is it on the Inverse? My obvious guess, something akin to a lack of knowledge? But what word(s) are specifically used, and usually?

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My obvious guess, something akin to a lack of knowledge?

Depends on your perspective.... 😉


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Daath-or Daat-is the Abyss-the 2nd Great Ordeal of the Magician on his or her Path-typically, it is regarded as "place/state" to be "crossed" whereby one becomes a Master of the Temple. But Daat also exists as a "Portal" to the Shadow Tree (the "Inverse"). I don't see Daat as being so much "knowledge" as it is a place where an endless argument can occur-where the Dogs of Reason rise up and engage you in an endless dialectic OR those opposites are fused and burned up...considered the "false Sephiroth," I don't see Daat having an "inverse" side-rather it is the "danger zone" that chews you up and spits you out OR links and burns up every "opposite" not only on the Life Tree Side but between the Life and Shadow Tree both.

Daat is Sephiroth 11-it's "Beyond Words" or Ordeal X (10). To try and peg this as a "concept" is to "arm to enemy," so to speak. There is no "reasoning" through Daat...Liber Al gives the WAY into and through it...

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Please forgive me for such a vague answer. Daath and the Qliphoth are subjects that could never be put into "sound bites", even in this day of message boards and ipods. I'm sure there are many experts out there that are more than willing to elaborate; but the subject for me is so incredibly profound, that I won't go there.


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I agree-what we deal with on this level is OURS to deal with...I don't find your answer "vague." I think its the only answer anyone can honestly give...


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Thanks for your valuable contribution 1011101.


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93,

Don't forget one very simple thing. The word LAM is a bija mantra for Muladhara chakra. Lam as a Gateway through Muladhara toward the.... something?

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"My obvious guess, something akin to a lack of knowledge? But what word(s) are specifically used, and usually?"

could i possibly suggest f*****f?


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You may.

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

Doggy Star Style and into the Egg!


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Thanks for your valuable contribution 1011101.

LOL..any time Vi. Just let me know when to stop and take a breath!


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Here is what I wonder about. What about the appearance of LAM? It goes without saying, that the appearance has a stunning similarity to modern "grey" (alien) descriptions. Personally, I have read a ton on the U.F.O. phenomenon, and I think there is definitely something to it. I really have no interest in the "I got abducted" stories, but the info. that military reports and airline pilots convey, etc. is pretty damn interesting when you start looking into it. Couple that with some of the ancient astronaut lore, the most profound being that of the Sirius Mystery ala the Dogon tribe in Mali in my opinion, and you have plenty to make an open minded person scratch their head at least. Now, at least among most of the Thelemites that I have spoken with face to face, it is laughable that "aliens" could exist, and the phenomenon must be utter fantasy in their opinion, and if not, it must be a spiritual phenomenon only. WHy? Aren't we both physical and spiritual beings? Could there be other beings (such as the Nommo..wink wink Kyle) that are not only WAY more advanced than us technologically, but also are GIANTS on the spiritual plane as well? Maybe these are the same beings spoken of in the legends of the Dogon, the reason for the importance of Sirius in the ancient Egyptian mysteries, "the Order of the Silver Star", the Roswell Incident happening in such close proximity to the death of the prophet of the New Aeon? The outer ones....
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I remember a snippet of what seemed like a pretty intense dream one time. I suppose I could call it an alien abduction if I wanted to.

These creatures had heads and faces somewhat like Lam's -- they had big craniums that flopped back, dark, medium-sized eyes, & small chins -- but the heads and also the bodies were a scorpion-like red in color. When I say "bodies," these were actually a kind of delta-shaped, flat, carapace unit that supported the head and that was able to slide across the floor.

I most clearly remember the thick, stinging-type tentacles that rose up one-to-each-side of these creature's heads. There was something about these things, which had splayed flaps on the ends that could be operated like hands, that could go straight into a person's nervous system -- or beyond -- right into one's metaphysical body I might say. I sensed that these were very knowledgeable creatures about how and what we as earth creatures are. I can't say that I felt any malevolence, only a huge, weird, scary energy that they were able to plug into and by which I could be controlled.

I and several other humans, who I couldn't really see, were standing paralyzed inside some elongated room that had windows and that was inside a spacecraft (I could see stars outside). Probably a dozen of these creatures were scattered about the smooth floor, some moving, all mostly watching us and bringing in the tentacles when necessary, for whatever purpose they had in mind. Needless to say, I awoke when one of them came at me and I started to feel pain.

OK, so, uh, am I supposed to worship these guys? Or what?

Funny thing, there was something in this experience that involved the idea of an OPENING or ADJUSTMENT -- weird, interesting, but, damn, it hurt.

So, what do you say, Kidneyhawk -- "NULAM STELLE II, The Flatto Boys?"


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1011101-

I find it laughable to hear that certain Thelemites find your ideas laughable! It has always been a human-primate conceit to exalt ourselves as the greatest species on the planet (and having God ordain us as such) and the notion has extended out into space as well. We can observe the limits of thinking all over the board-the vast uphevals over ideas and observations of planetary rotations etc. And I think its more than just someone having a "narrow mind." The IMPLICATIONS of certain speculative IDEAS are threatening to comfort levels within an established and functional mind-environment, upheld by its familiar reference points (or what Robert Anton Wilson would called a Neuro-Semantic Reality Tunnel).

To shift from this into the Tunnels of Tutulu is to forsake the safety of those reference points-and this induces fear and pain-but I would argue that to stay within the NSRT and not grow, move, GO, explore, expand is to set oneself up for a greater danger when the pillars crumble by a volition other than your own.

(Now I'm the one hoping to be coherent!!!)

I, too, have little interest in the typical cable tv-bad paperback-fate magazine abducto stuff-but the information held by the Dogon really DOES make one scratch the head...and their pointing to the origins of such information truly does ask us to ponder what exactly is going on.

Pretty easy to laugh it all off and be comfortable "knowing" that one "knows" there are no such things as aliens (O Omniscient Knowledge!).

Pretty ADMIRABLE (I think) to wrinkle the eyebrow and do a double-take and (Method of Science-Aim of Religion) INVESTIGATE it...and I really do feel that when our Will pulls us along this course, we will find the right Portal-Points to Enter...and then the question isn't "Could there be extraterrestrial intelligences capable of communicating with mankind" but "What exactly is happening here-and WHY?"

Way up at the top of this or the NULAM threat, it was indicated that LAM was possibly functioning as a Bodhisattva.

In a very large and not to be so quickly pigeon-holed way, I do think this is where its at.

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Priestofal-

I think your dream (or WAS it?) is very powerful...and I think YOU should draw the Flatto Boys!!! The mentioning of the entities not having any malevolence but never the less evoking a "huge, scary" energy really resonated with me...I mentioned having a similar experience where what I saw and was part of struck me as quite lovely, nothing dark or looming or ominous, but I felt a gripping FEAR even as I marveled at the beauty...going back up to the reply to 1011101, I assessed this later as the multi-dimensional reality being tapped into as posing a "threat" to my own reference points-I had nothing to be CONSCIOUSLY afraid of but the parts of me that instinctually cling to the NSRT were evoked-those PARTS were threatened. Hence, words like "invasion" or "invasive." The tentacles hitting your nervous system? Simply having a conversation with a friend will fire up neurons and cause many explosions and subtle changes in the nervous system-with words, one can and does "enter" you...I think the "Tentacular Touch" (Kenneth Grant can't have this one-it's MINE-LOL!) is part of how our mind constructs at this phase of evolution interprets the communication which is there to be had if we are open to receive it.


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...and one more note: there's a great quote in the movie WHITE NOISE where the overweight EVP tech (can't recall his name off-hand) tells Michael Keaton (as a dark and violent entitiy begins to emerge in the transmission): "They can't all be good...they can't all be bad." Sometimes determining, though, what's "good" and "bad" can be a tricky business for the aforementioned reasons (or pre-prorammed instinctual behavior isn't always the best guide-pain is right when it tells us to take our hand off the stove, pain is not the best ally when it screams for reprieve as the battlefield surgeon slices in to remove the lodged bullet).

Hence, the Magician doesn't approach his or her Work unarmed...and this goes for everything: Goetia, Scrying, Path-Working etc etc.

Just my thoughts...

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I agree with you, Kyle. Thanks for your replies.


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I have just finished reading Donald Tyson's 'Liber Lilith', which I thoroughly recommend!

...and I thought I would mention the very strange synchronicity of recent events. I recently visited Gorgon Island (Kerkyra), the birthplace of the atavistic mythical monster(s), known as the Gorgons; Medusa being one of them. So, this evening, over a cup of tea, I was getting through the last few pages of Liber Lilith, where Tyson begins his associations with these amazing serpent - haired monsters of myth, and ties them in with being aspects of Lilith 😯 ...on top of that...he mentions the (Lam)ia...

"..devoted to mythical monsters that each express some aspect of Lilith. They all belong to the general class of demons known as lamia, or man-devouring spirits. Lamia comes from the Greek word for abyss, and literally signifies 'gaping-mouth'. In Greek mythology, the lamia was a serpent with the head and breasts of a woman'. Pg. 278 , Liber Lilith, Donald Tyson

Interesting link with LAM, LAMIA. Also...on the island of Kerkya is a place called, IPSOS, the word of the Aeon, which was mediumistically received through Nema - Liber Pennae Praenumbra. Ipsos, 'by the same mouth'. Note; the gorgons 'devour' and are usually depicted with a gaping mouth, and a tongue protruding, a devouring beast!...

As LAM is also very much tied in with the kundalini (firesnake), so is this mythical creature, as it has connections with Lilith..

'No mythic figure remains always the same but evolves and changes over the centuries, sometimes taking on the powers and characteristics of the gods or heroes of a conquered people, sometimes being reduced and degraded beneath the mythological figures of a conquering race.' Pg. 276, Liber Lilith, Donald Tyson.

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Charles-

Your post is just brilliant!

Very interesting that the Buddhist Deity Mahakala (and note the Great Kala!) was originally a destructive force, a type of Set the Destroyer who was subdued by two Bodhisattvas in Atavistic Form who entered his Anus and Mouth, expanding within and pushing the Monster to the breaking point. When he finally relented, the Bodhisattvas instructed Mahakala in the Way of Wisdom and he was transformed in a Protector of the Dharma. This links the Muladhara Chakra (Sleeping Serpent) with the Mouth, whereby the transmuted energies of sex (Mars ruled Scorpio-the War God-the semen perhaps in it's "poison" or venom aspect) is transmuted via the Chakra-Chain and transmuted into Amrita which is bestowed as the Word via the Mouth. Ipsos is a clear Lam-Link as Lam is described by Grant as esp. relative to the Maat-Aeon.

The Gorgon, female headed and breasted also rides on the Ophidian Phallic Body and thus forms a type of Double Current. LAM occupying the space between Andromeda and Sirius braids the Current as a Transmission Point. Further, LAM is identifed a bi-sexual, hermaphroditic or androgyne. Like a Gorgon. And not unlike Baphomet-for Baphomet is both scaled and breasted-linked to earth with the cloven hooves and the heavens with both the Starfire betixt the horns (Divine Spark ala Gnositicism returning to the Source) AND the Aries Symbolism, wherein the Sun is reborn in the Wheel. The Sun behind the Sun, Sothis, Set-and in the Divine Adrogyne we have both the Eye of Set (anus) and Mouth of Isis (vagina)...the Set-Sothis Gateway and the Isisian or Maatian Gateway-fused to open the LAMIC Gate!

With regards to Lilith, it would seem that Eve is the Kala and Lilith is the Mahakala, two reflexes of the female force in earth and in heaven.

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Kyle!

Yes...this is what it is all about!

...seeing beyond the veil of these enigmatic glamours of Starfire and using them in Magick.

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Do what thu wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

The following is my personal understanding of the Typhonian apprehension of Lam and the aspect of the Typhonian OTO as it relates to him reduced to the simplest terms by which I can describe it. Not that I am in any way inimical to the Typhonian OTO and Lam current in any way, only that I for the time being am working on other things of a more traditional Thelemic nature/as far as that can be interpreted. I am certain that within the inner sanctum of the Typhonian OTO, Lam is considered or experienced in ways quite other than what I describe below/ then again perhaps not entirely.
The following then, is written for those who can only understand Lam as an actual extra terrestrial being; or choose to see him as such; and is only incidental to those who believe, or have experienced him to be otherwise.

If we consider Lam an extraterrestrial in the traditional sense of the word, then perhaps he is of one of those outer/inner realm space entities that accepts in his own way, what we declare Thelema. Since some actually consider him to be Alien in that traditional sense, might he not be of a race of beings aligned to the Thelemic (cosmic current) as we are? Though not necessarily as we are wont to understand it. We cannot proclaim him the origin of it, (or is it possible?) for Thelema is the definitive expression of the force and energy of life as a religion, philosophy, and science of man. Is man not cosmic as well as terrestrial? We would be just as alien to another race of beings from another planet as they would to us! What if he is in touch with those qualities, and attributes, and concepts we proclaim Thelemic? What if he is an actual “Alien” accepting the Law of Thelema and 666? and willing to assist in matters. So if Lam is an actual alien as aliens are traditionally defined ---he is in tune to Thelema by evolutionary status,, (most likely a very high form indeed, in both body-mind- and spirit) and most likely if embodied in an actual physical body, having a mind capable of projecting images that are not limited by time or space (such as some adepts have attained to on Earth). That is how I would seek to understand him if he is indeed an actual Alien life form, and not an incorporeal spiritual being that uses as the image of his intimacy with humans that which happens to look “Alien” as we have envisioned Space peoples.( though he seems more like unto a fetus of sorts to me). So I would have no problem thinking of him as a super cosmic interstellar multi-trans- dimensional Thelemite! Perhaps the very head of some Thelemic order or partners made privy thereof. I do not think the above as I understand it to be much different than Mr. Grant’s, except for the possibility that the seemingly simplistic nature of concepts as I put them forth might elaborate the gist of things more thoroughly than his intricate and interesting way of transmission of certain conceptionalizations and the implicit implications thereof. Though I think of it as no thing exceedingly complicated in and of itself.
So the Typhonian OTO would be a system presenting a means of approach (communication) with LAM, and/or that aspect of the Thelemic current that manifest him, or that he modifies through the peculiar nature of his being.
In no way am I saying that this is the sole purpose of Typhonian OTO activity.

He may be the representative of an entire race of beings, or some unique and singular entity.
Recall also, that I believe that what seems terribly complicated is more easily apprehended through simple (even child like) methods.
So the only thing complicated, is not necessarily the understanding of what he is, but of how one can communicate with him and /or experience his particular expression of things “Thelemic”. And I see the Typhonian OTO as a major means thereunto that goal if such is thy true will to investigate. I say this with the understanding that Thelema presents an infinite variety of untapped energies that are conducive to the manifestation and implementation of each of our true wills when once we are aware of and illuminated thereby.

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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I had an interesting Lam experience last night. Very odd actually, very odd indeed.
Firstly, before I posted on the Lam topic, I had only read the first two or three postings, and the last two, neglecting the middle posts. So what I experienced last night was definitely not influenced by any thing I had read prior to my first posting.
I just tackled all the postings about Lam, and I am a tad shocked!

Last night I had a dream. It was semi astral, not a complete lift off—until the second part.

I looked into a mirror.
I was wearing a coat and tie, but from the collar up, was a Lam head!
The neck was the usual length of a human neck, but extremely thin and wrinkly.
The shape of the head and face was much like Kidneyhawk’s stele. The eyes were large, black and shiny—all pupils. There were many folds in the face, but although wrinkly, the skin was smooth and not dry. I stared into the mirror looking at my Lam head. There was calmness and accepting attitude, it was only the skinny thin neck that I was quite dissatisfied with. The color of the skin was Caucasian, with a lot of green here and there, and also some orange areas.
I found myself trying to hide the neck with a large heavy shawl, scarf type woolen affair, It was a tartan plaid, of dark green and black squares, and various crisscrossing of a yellowish color. I do not remember having to wrap the scarf about my neck, it just appeared the way I wanted it to, but I was still not satisfied with the look. So I then wore it over the head with just the face showing, using it for the hooded look.. I was quite satisfied, and even having a Lam head did not negate my sense of fashion.

By this time, I had finally achieved the astral. It was not the most pleasant of experiences.
Every thing I looked at was seen as if through tinted glasses, and believe it or not, the color of that tint was Mauve!
I was in a large hospital type room; various people were in various stages of being experimented on, by humans. I was the only individual that had been Laminated!
My attention was drawn to one heavyset man on a very long operating table undergoing open-heart surgery of some kind. The entire front of his chest had not been opened. It had been removed. Instead of the heart though, was a pulsating female organ—a perfectly formed yoni!
Then he started to hemorrhage, and the human surgeons began putting the pieces of his chest back on, as if it were a jigsaw puzzle. The bleeding stopped and the chest work held, but now he began to rise from the table with more blood spurting out, and up from various parts of him. The surgeon started to follow after him, but whilst so distracted, his assistant became quite insane and with a wild look upon his face, proceeded to slice up the surgeon with a scalpel!
Now there was absolute pandemonium in the room! A total blood bath.
Then, I was by myself again, only the head in the mirror had transformed into a big skull.
Now I was Baron Samedi! I removed my head for closer inspection, and held it in my hands. It was indeed a fully articulated human skull. So when I removed the skull head, another head of sorts must have popped up, or else I could not have looked at it from the particular point of view from which my inspection transpired.
I replaced my head and found myself as I am now.

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Son of the Star-

I would not even venture to "interpret" this experience (as it is quite YOURS to understand) but will say (even if it should go without mentioning) that it is LOADED with very important material. I have personally found the Gnostic-Voudon Current very connected to the Experience of LAM with special emphasis on the Energy-Mask of Guedhe-Samedhi. Even if you had just completely made up your post, it is STILL pretty incredible.

If you've not read Michael Staley's several articles on the Lam Serpent Sadhana, I would urge you to do so. Although this Path may be entered from a variety of angles and worked with through various and idiosyncratic means, the Serpent Sadhana has formed a type of "Standard" in the working tradition of the Cultus and as a result of the energies and contacts established by this means, I think it is a "form" which carries a certain concentrated magnetic attraction to Lamic Intelligence.

93,

Kyle


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Kidneyhawk!

I definitely experienced it all just as I described it. In fact, it was so vivid in its clarity that I did not have to strain myself in any way for a recollection.

I will read what M. Staley has to say about the LSS.
I’ve never heard of the energy mask!

I must say, I certainly feel rejuvenated in some way. My mind seems much more focused than usual, not that it was foggy or anything. So, though the gory episode that took place in the hospital type room was not very pleasant to see, the effect of it all is quite stimulating!

Love is the law, love under will.


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